More POP3/SSL & Eudora [Was: Re: qpopper pop3 and SSL experiences]

2003-07-27 Thread Matt Staroscik
Thanks all for the help. Today I installed courier-imap, and reconfigured 
Exim for Maildir delivery, and I can now get mail out over POP3 + SSL. 
Apple's OS X mail client and Mac Eudora 6b are working fine. (I had sort of 
been wanting to try maildirs, and this way I can evolve to IMAP if I want, 
so I will probably stick with this.)

Eudora for Windows is still hosed though. I did manually add my cert to the 
trusted list but I still have this error to deal with:

SSL Negotiation Failed: Certificate bad: Destination Host name does not 
match host name in certificate  Cause (-6984)

Now, I am using a self-signed cert that I created with courier's shortcut 
command, and this test system does not have a real hostname yet, which 
seems like it would explain this error... but does anyone know a way to 
tell Eudora to not care about bad certificates? Or better still, how do I 
create a cert myself that satisfies Eudora? Will it even be possible to 
when my mail server  testbed is at 192.168.x.y, without a fully-qualified 
hostname?

Getting real close now though, thanks to everyone!

- Matt

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Re: qpopper pop3 and SSL experiences

2003-07-27 Thread Doug Hardie
I am using qpopper 4.0.3 for an ISP and it works fine for all the 
various SSL mail clients.  Configuration may be a bit difficult for the 
client as some of them use the interim SSL mail port and some use the 
standard POP3 port.  I have to run 2 separate POP servers with 
different ports to handle them.  Likewise the users have to try the 2 
different client configurations to see which one works for their 
specific client.  Eudora on the Mac was simple.  I have tested it on 
the PC also and I have a large number of users using it.  The two 
config files I use are:

set bulldir="/var/bulletins"
set reverse-lookup=false
set home-dir-mail=".mail"
reset keep-temp-drop
set fast-update
reset check-old-spool-loc
set tls-support=stls
set tls-private-key-file=/www/certs/mail.key.pem
set tls-server-cert-file=/www/certs/mail.cert.pem
set trim-domain=true


set bulldir="/var/bulletins"
set reverse-lookup=false
set home-dir-mail=".mail"
reset keep-temp-drop
set fast-update
reset check-old-spool-loc
set tls-support=alternate-port
set tls-private-key-file=/www/certs/mail.key.pem
set tls-server-cert-file=/www/certs/mail.cert.pem
set trim-domain=true
Here are the instructions we provide our users for Eudora:

Some e-mail clients do support RFC 2595 and they work differently.  
They use port 110 which is the standard POP3 port.  Here are the 
configuration instructions for Eudora 5.1:

•	Go to Tools, Options and then select the icon for Checking Mail.
•	Set the Secure Sockets when Receiving to "If Available, STARTTLS".
•	Then select OK and download mail.  It will fail with a certificate 
problem.
•	Go back to Tools, Options, Checking Mail and select the button "Last 
SSL Info".
•	That will display the LAFN certificate.
•	Select the Certificate Information Manager button just above the OK 
button.
•	That displays a different view of the certificate.
•	Press the "Add To Trusted" button.
•	Then press Done, OK etc. back out.
•	Then download mail again and it should work.

On Sunday, Jul 27, 2003, at 13:09 US/Pacific, Matt Staroscik wrote:

To make a long story short, I have been unable to get qpopper 4.0.5 + 
SSL to work with Eudora 5.2.1. Using my self-signed cert I can get a 
secure connection to Apple's OS X mail client, but not Mac or Windows 
Eudora. On the Mac I see handshake errors, on Windows I get errors 
which I may be able to get around but without Mac support it isn't 
worth it.

From Googling I have learned that there are many others having issues 
with qpopper, Eudora and SSL but I haven't found a workaround.

Has anyone found a pop3 daemon with SSL support that works with a wide 
variety of email clients? Oh, FWIW my MTA is Exim and I should be able 
to switch to maildir instad of /var/ mail storage easily enough, if 
required, as the system is not in production yet.

Thanks!

Cheers,
Matt
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Re: qpopper pop3 and SSL experiences

2003-07-27 Thread Brent Sims
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003, Matt Staroscik wrote:

> To make a long story short, I have been unable to get qpopper 4.0.5 + SSL
> to work with Eudora 5.2.1. Using my self-signed cert I can get a secure
> connection to Apple's OS X mail client, but not Mac or Windows Eudora. On
> the Mac I see handshake errors, on Windows I get errors which I may be able
> to get around but without Mac support it isn't worth it.

Some versions of Eudora have a bug in their SSL implimentation.
There's no work around as Eudora itself is, or at least was, broken. The
details escape me but a bit of googling should prove to be enlightening.

> Has anyone found a pop3 daemon with SSL support that works with a wide
> variety of email clients? Oh, FWIW my MTA is Exim and I should be able to
> switch to maildir instad of /var/ mail storage easily enough, if required,
> as the system is not in production yet.

We may get some flames for this but we have long used Washington
University's POP deamon on our production servers and our experience is
that it supports POP clients that are not broken quite nicely.

Best Regards,

Brent

Brent Sims, Customer Satisfaction Manager
WebOkay Internet Services, LLC
http://www.webokay.net/
Phone (719) 595-1427
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Re: qpopper pop3 and SSL experiences

2003-07-27 Thread Anti
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:09:33 -0700
Matt Staroscik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Has anyone found a pop3 daemon with SSL support that works with a wide 
> variety of email clients?



yes, courier
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qpopper pop3 and SSL experiences

2003-07-27 Thread Matt Staroscik
To make a long story short, I have been unable to get qpopper 4.0.5 + SSL 
to work with Eudora 5.2.1. Using my self-signed cert I can get a secure 
connection to Apple's OS X mail client, but not Mac or Windows Eudora. On 
the Mac I see handshake errors, on Windows I get errors which I may be able 
to get around but without Mac support it isn't worth it.

From Googling I have learned that there are many others having issues with 
qpopper, Eudora and SSL but I haven't found a workaround.

Has anyone found a pop3 daemon with SSL support that works with a wide 
variety of email clients? Oh, FWIW my MTA is Exim and I should be able to 
switch to maildir instad of /var/ mail storage easily enough, if required, 
as the system is not in production yet.

Thanks!

Cheers,
Matt
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