Re: rox-fm

2011-05-05 Thread pwnedomina

Em 05-05-2011 02:50, Alejandro Imass escreveu:

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Daniel C. Dowsedcdo...@gmx.net  wrote:

On  Wed, 04 May 2011 23:33:18 +, pwnedominapwnedom...@gmail.com  wrote:

Em 04-05-2011 20:49, Daniel C. Dowse escreveu:

[...]


please always check that the recipient is the mailing list and not the one that
answered your question.



Yeah, this is a pain in the ass, and it's really not the OP's fault
entirely.  It's a simple mailman config option but I think it's an
idiosyncrasy thing about open lists, blah, blah, blah. The easiest way
is to ALWAYS HIT REPLY ALL, and the figure out who the mail is going
to. IMHO it should ALWAYS be the list ONLY, but many list admins use
it the way it's set-up here on the general questions list, why tf it
beats me, but it's really annoying.

I wish someone could clearly explain why the reply-to field should
ONLY have the mailing-list address, or at least have as the default
address and not the other way around as it is here!

Best,

--
Alejandro Imass


ok, ive choosen reply to all. my question now is
i have setted the command prompt to
|[%n@%m:%c]%#
but i intend to place color red in the [] brackets, how can i accomplish 
this?|


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Re: rox-fm

2011-05-05 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 05 May 2011 09:43:04 +, pwnedomina pwnedom...@gmail.com wrote:
 ok, ive choosen reply to all. my question now is
 i have setted the command prompt to
 |[%n@%m:%c]%#
 but i intend to place color red in the [] brackets, how can i accomplish 
 this?|

It looks like you are configuring a C shell prompt, correct?
Make sure you have the following settings in ~/.cshrc (or in
/ect/csh.cshrc, if you want a global setting):

set promptchars = %#
set prompt = %n@%m:%~%# 

This would give you the STANDARD prompt - note the space after
the prompt character and the absense of the brackets.

You want red color - I'm not sure if this is supported in csh.
At least I know that bold printing is possible. Have a look
at this:

set prompt = [%B%n@%m:%~%b]%# 

This uses %B and %b to switch on and off bold printing. Refer
to man csh, section Special shell variables and scroll
down to prompt - there are some more special settings to
customize the prompt. It mentions %{string%} for escape
sequences and can MAYBE be used for changing color.

Is the pipe character at the beginning of the prompt intended?
If yes, use this:

set prompt = |[%B%n@%m:%~%b]%# 

I've kept the space at the end of the prompt for better
readability. Remove it if desired.




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Re: rox-fm

2011-05-05 Thread pwnedomina

Em 05-05-2011 12:37, Polytropon escreveu:

On Thu, 05 May 2011 09:43:04 +, pwnedominapwnedom...@gmail.com  wrote:

ok, ive choosen reply to all. my question now is
i have setted the command prompt to
|[%n@%m:%c]%#
but i intend to place color red in the [] brackets, how can i accomplish
this?|

It looks like you are configuring a C shell prompt, correct?
Make sure you have the following settings in ~/.cshrc (or in
/ect/csh.cshrc, if you want a global setting):

set promptchars = %#
set prompt = %n@%m:%~%# 

This would give you the STANDARD prompt - note the space after
the prompt character and the absense of the brackets.

You want red color - I'm not sure if this is supported in csh.
At least I know that bold printing is possible. Have a look
at this:

set prompt = [%B%n@%m:%~%b]%# 

This uses %B and %b to switch on and off bold printing. Refer
to man csh, section Special shell variables and scroll
down to prompt - there are some more special settings to
customize the prompt. It mentions %{string%} for escape
sequences and can MAYBE be used for changing color.

Is the pipe character at the beginning of the prompt intended?
If yes, use this:

set prompt = |[%B%n@%m:%~%b]%# 

I've kept the space at the end of the prompt for better
readability. Remove it if desired.



according to this page http://understudy.net/custom.html C shell support 
colors, how can i turn this prompt


set prompt = [%B%n@%m:%~%b]%# 

with red color on brackets and white color on text?
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Re: rox-fm

2011-05-05 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 05 May 2011 16:14:15 +, pwnedomina pwnedom...@gmail.com wrote:
 according to this page http://understudy.net/custom.html C shell support 
 colors, how can i turn this prompt
 
 set prompt = [%B%n@%m:%~%b]%# 
 
 with red color on brackets and white color on text?

Have a look at the page you mentioned above and you'll
easily find the answer, especially if you consult the
section

http://understudy.net/custom.html#color_prompts

and then scroll down to TC Shells - keep in mind that
FreeBSD's C shell is a TC shell (/bin/csh and /bin/tcsh
are the same program).

I've tried the example (on FreeBSD 7) from the web page
you mentioned and found that

set prompt = 
%{\033[31m%}[%{\033[0m%}%B%n@%m:%~%b%{\033[31m%}]%{\033[0m%}%# 

works as intended. %{\033[31m%} switches red color on, and
%B/%b applies bold face for the text inside the brackets.

In the section

http://understudy.net/custom.html#table2

you'll find a reference for the other colors programming
codes. You could, for example, use a different color for
root and nonroot shells, or change color depending on specific
shell accounts on your system.

You can also use other attributes like %S/%s for standout
(here: inverse) mode, or %U/%u for underline mode. However,
not every terminal (emulator) is capable of displaying them
as intended, for example the text mode console cannot do
unterlining, vt100 can do blinking _and_ underlining, but
can't do colors, xterm can do underlining, but _not_ blinking,
but can do colors... and so on.



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Re: rox-fm

2011-05-05 Thread pwnedomina

Em 05-05-2011 17:20, Polytropon escreveu:

On Thu, 05 May 2011 16:14:15 +, pwnedominapwnedom...@gmail.com  wrote:

according to this page http://understudy.net/custom.html C shell support
colors, how can i turn this prompt

set prompt = [%B%n@%m:%~%b]%# 

with red color on brackets and white color on text?

Have a look at the page you mentioned above and you'll
easily find the answer, especially if you consult the
section

http://understudy.net/custom.html#color_prompts

and then scroll down to TC Shells - keep in mind that
FreeBSD's C shell is a TC shell (/bin/csh and /bin/tcsh
are the same program).

I've tried the example (on FreeBSD 7) from the web page
you mentioned and found that

set prompt = %{\033[31m%}[%{\033[0m%}%B%n@%m:%~%b%{\033[31m%}]%{\033[0m%}%# 


works as intended. %{\033[31m%} switches red color on, and
%B/%b applies bold face for the text inside the brackets.

In the section

http://understudy.net/custom.html#table2

you'll find a reference for the other colors programming
codes. You could, for example, use a different color for
root and nonroot shells, or change color depending on specific
shell accounts on your system.

You can also use other attributes like %S/%s for standout
(here: inverse) mode, or %U/%u for underline mode. However,
not every terminal (emulator) is capable of displaying them
as intended, for example the text mode console cannot do
unterlining, vt100 can do blinking _and_ underlining, but
can't do colors, xterm can do underlining, but _not_ blinking,
but can do colors... and so on.




the example you supply worked fine. thanks for helping.

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Re: rox-fm

2011-05-05 Thread pwnedomina

Em 05-05-2011 17:20, Polytropon escreveu:

On Thu, 05 May 2011 16:14:15 +, pwnedominapwnedom...@gmail.com  wrote:

according to this page http://understudy.net/custom.html C shell support
colors, how can i turn this prompt

set prompt = [%B%n@%m:%~%b]%# 

with red color on brackets and white color on text?

Have a look at the page you mentioned above and you'll
easily find the answer, especially if you consult the
section

http://understudy.net/custom.html#color_prompts

and then scroll down to TC Shells - keep in mind that
FreeBSD's C shell is a TC shell (/bin/csh and /bin/tcsh
are the same program).

I've tried the example (on FreeBSD 7) from the web page
you mentioned and found that

set prompt = %{\033[31m%}[%{\033[0m%}%B%n@%m:%~%b%{\033[31m%}]%{\033[0m%}%# 


works as intended. %{\033[31m%} switches red color on, and
%B/%b applies bold face for the text inside the brackets.

In the section

http://understudy.net/custom.html#table2

you'll find a reference for the other colors programming
codes. You could, for example, use a different color for
root and nonroot shells, or change color depending on specific
shell accounts on your system.

You can also use other attributes like %S/%s for standout
(here: inverse) mode, or %U/%u for underline mode. However,
not every terminal (emulator) is capable of displaying them
as intended, for example the text mode console cannot do
unterlining, vt100 can do blinking _and_ underlining, but
can't do colors, xterm can do underlining, but _not_ blinking,
but can do colors... and so on.



i had a little problem, after i have rox-filer running im unable to see 
output of root-tail texts in background, what can i do in order to fix this?

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Re: rox-fm

2011-05-05 Thread David Brodbeck
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
 I wish someone could clearly explain why the reply-to field should
 ONLY have the mailing-list address, or at least have as the default
 address and not the other way around as it is here!

This is one of the all-time great religious wars of the internet, on
par with vi vs. Emacs and top-posting vs. bottom-posting.

See http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-harmful.html for one
side of the argument, and
http://www.metasystema.net/essays/reply-to.html for the other side.

My advice is to just accept that some mailing list administrators will
choose one side of this particular schism, and others will choose the
other.  Arguing the issue rarely gets anywhere.
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Re: rox-fm

2011-05-05 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:35 PM, David Brodbeck g...@gull.us wrote:
 On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote:
 I wish someone could clearly explain why the reply-to field should
 ONLY have the mailing-list address, or at least have as the default
 address and not the other way around as it is here!

 This is one of the all-time great religious wars of the internet, on
 par with vi vs. Emacs and top-posting vs. bottom-posting.

 See http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-harmful.html for one
 side of the argument, and
 http://www.metasystema.net/essays/reply-to.html for the other side.


Man, that's hilarious! Using the same rhetoric but backwards!

Very cool read... and I was even kinda shy to ask, I mean so many
years on lists and I'd thought I had heard something on this respect
but never imagined it was actually a religious point.

Thanks again,

--
Alejandro
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Re: rox-fm

2011-05-05 Thread Daniel C. Dowse
On  Thu, 05 May 2011 19:42:32 +, pwnedomina pwnedom...@gmail.com wrote:
[cut]

i had a little problem, after i have rox-filer running im unable to see 
output of root-tail texts in background, what can i do in order to fix this?

It may be cause your run rox with -S [ --rox-session ] option and the pinboard
is set as your backdrop, you probably have to run rox without the session
command.

cheers
 
Daniel Dowse

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Re: rox-fm

2011-05-05 Thread pwnedomina
Em 05-05-2011 23:48, Daniel C. Dowse escreveu:
 On  Thu, 05 May 2011 19:42:32 +, pwnedomina pwnedom...@gmail.com wrote:
 [cut]
 i had a little problem, after i have rox-filer running im unable to see 
 output of root-tail texts in background, what can i do in order to fix this?
 It may be cause your run rox with -S [ --rox-session ] option and the pinboard
 is set as your backdrop, you probably have to run rox without the session
 command.

 cheers
  
 Daniel Dowse

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as for the root-tail what settings you recommend to use?
on http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php?title=.xinitrc
they have show this example

 #!/bin/sh
 #log files we like to watch
 logfile1=/var/log/messages,white
 logfile2=/var/log/kern.log,green
 logfile3=/var/log/auth.log,red,'LOGIN'
 logfile4=/var/log/secure,red,'ALERT!!'
 #the font we want our log to show
 logfont=-rolibue-matto-bold-r-normal--14-14-75-75-m-90-iso8859-1
 #the deminsions of our log area
 geom=800x350+10+40
 exec gkrellm2 -w 
 exec root-tail -g ${geom} -fn ${logfont} ${log1} ${log2} ${log3} ${log4}
 klipper
 xset r rate 195 35
 #load our custom keymaps for special keys to work in x
 xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap
 #load our custom settings for terminal and other stuff
 xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults
 #start a window manager
 exec fluxbox
 #can only execute one this time we use fluxbox
 #exec openbox

which does not seem very suitable, do you recommend other settings?
 #exec wmaker


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Re: rox-fm

2011-05-05 Thread pwnedomina
Em 06-05-2011 01:01, pwnedomina escreveu:
 Em 05-05-2011 23:48, Daniel C. Dowse escreveu:
 On  Thu, 05 May 2011 19:42:32 +, pwnedomina pwnedom...@gmail.com wrote:
 [cut]
 i had a little problem, after i have rox-filer running im unable to see 
 output of root-tail texts in background, what can i do in order to fix this?
 It may be cause your run rox with -S [ --rox-session ] option and the 
 pinboard
 is set as your backdrop, you probably have to run rox without the session
 command.

 cheers
  
 Daniel Dowse

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 -


 as for the root-tail what settings you recommend to use?
 on http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php?title=.xinitrc
 they have show this example

  #!/bin/sh
  #log files we like to watch
  logfile1=/var/log/messages,white
  logfile2=/var/log/kern.log,green
  logfile3=/var/log/auth.log,red,'LOGIN'
  logfile4=/var/log/secure,red,'ALERT!!'
  #the font we want our log to show
  logfont=-rolibue-matto-bold-r-normal--14-14-75-75-m-90-iso8859-1
  #the deminsions of our log area
  geom=800x350+10+40
  exec gkrellm2 -w 
  exec root-tail -g ${geom} -fn ${logfont} ${log1} ${log2} ${log3} ${log4}
  klipper
  xset r rate 195 35
  #load our custom keymaps for special keys to work in x
  xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap
  #load our custom settings for terminal and other stuff
  xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults
  #start a window manager
  exec fluxbox
  #can only execute one this time we use fluxbox
  #exec openbox

 which does not seem very suitable, do you recommend other settings?
  #exec wmaker


now, whenever i try to execute rox and open files i get the message
exec: /path/file: Permission denied. what is wrong?

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rox-fm

2011-05-04 Thread pwnedomina
after installation of rox-filler i noticed i cant select menu item from 
fluxbox? is there anyway to circumvent this?

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Re: rox-fm

2011-05-04 Thread Daniel C. Dowse
On  Wed, 04 May 2011 21:01:28 +, pwnedomina pwnedom...@gmail.com wrote:
after installation of rox-filler i noticed i cant select menu item from 
fluxbox? is there anyway to circumvent this?
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Hi,

you go in rox  options-compatibility then select the option Pass all
backdrop mouse click to window manager and/or you may have to select the
Black Box Root menu hack, too. 
After that your fluxbox menue should work again.

cheers

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Re: rox-fm

2011-05-04 Thread Daniel C. Dowse
On  Wed, 04 May 2011 23:33:18 +, pwnedomina pwnedom...@gmail.com wrote:
Em 04-05-2011 20:49, Daniel C. Dowse escreveu:
 On  Wed, 04 May 2011 21:01:28 +, pwnedominapwnedom...@gmail.com  wrote:
 after installation of rox-filler i noticed i cant select menu item from
 fluxbox? is there anyway to circumvent this?
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 Hi,

 you go in rox  options-compatibility then select the option Pass all
 backdrop mouse click to window manager and/or you may have to select the
 Black Box Root menu hack, too.
 After that your fluxbox menue should work again.

 cheers

also, how can i personalise my Eterm console in order to show a string 
choosen by me? eg.
[user@user:~]-cmd here

Hi,

please always check that the recipient is the mailing list and not the one that
answered your question. 

The look of your command prompt depends on what shell you use e.g bash

export PS1='\[\033[32m\][\@][@ \W)$\[\033[0m\]' in your .bashrc would make your
prompt look like 

[01:40 am][@ ~)$

in green color. 

Just use your g00gle foo, and you will sure find a lot of examples for your
kind of shell, to customize your command prompt. 

Daniel Dowse

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Re: rox-fm

2011-05-04 Thread Alejandro Imass
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Daniel C. Dowse dcdo...@gmx.net wrote:
 On  Wed, 04 May 2011 23:33:18 +, pwnedomina pwnedom...@gmail.com wrote:
Em 04-05-2011 20:49, Daniel C. Dowse escreveu:
[...]

 please always check that the recipient is the mailing list and not the one 
 that
 answered your question.



Yeah, this is a pain in the ass, and it's really not the OP's fault
entirely.  It's a simple mailman config option but I think it's an
idiosyncrasy thing about open lists, blah, blah, blah. The easiest way
is to ALWAYS HIT REPLY ALL, and the figure out who the mail is going
to. IMHO it should ALWAYS be the list ONLY, but many list admins use
it the way it's set-up here on the general questions list, why tf it
beats me, but it's really annoying.

I wish someone could clearly explain why the reply-to field should
ONLY have the mailing-list address, or at least have as the default
address and not the other way around as it is here!

Best,

--
Alejandro Imass
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