Re: screwy network/dmz problem

2005-04-05 Thread Chip Wiegand
Jerry Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/04/2005 05:11:22 PM:

 The first thing I would check is that it's the BSD box that you are
 actually pinging.  I'd try unplugging it and trying the ping again from
 the IIS box.  Barring that, I would double and triple check the network
 mask on the BSD box.  Also, make sure you don't have some screwy 
firewall
 rules on the BSD server that prevent outbound pings.
 Next, look at the output of 'netstat -rn'

Results of netstat -rn:
destination gateway flags   refsuse netif
default157.237.165.1   ugs   0  122 fxp0
127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1  uh  0   6  lo0
157.237.165/29  link#1   uc  0   0  fxp0
157.237.165.1  00:02:b3:a4:c2uhlm1   0  fxp0

 You should see entries for the default gateway as well as your local
 network.  If all looks good there, check your arp table with arp -a. 

Results of arp -a:
?(157.237.165.1) at 00:02:b3:bd:c2 on fxp0 [ethernet]
?(157.237.165.2) at 00:0d:61:70:df on fxp0 [ethernet]
?(157.237.165.4) at 00:eo:18:c2:12 on fxp0 [ethernet]

 If you don't see anything there, it's probably a layer 1 or 2 problem
 (cabling/vlan).

There are 3 boxes on the dmz -
157.237.165.2 is the IIS box. It gets no ping reply from the BSD box and 
the firewall. It does get a reply from the win2003 box. It has full 
internet access. It is a current, working, 'live' web server for 
authorized users only.
157.237.165.4 is a WIN2003 box and it gets ping responses from the IIS box 
and the BSD box, no response from the firewall, and no internet access.
157.237.165.5 is the BSD box, gets a ping response from the IIS box only, 
no response from the win2003 box, or firewall, and no internet access.
(157.237.165.1 is the firewall dmz nic itself, the gateway for all 3 
boxes)

I'm guessing that there is a rule on the firewall that has closed the 
internet connection for these two additional boxes. The IIS was the first 
to be set up a year of so ago. There must also be a rule on the firewall 
that drops all incoming ping requests.
Questions from the above:
Why does BSD box get reply from the IIS box, yet the IIS box get no reply 
from the BSD box?
Why does the IIS box get reply from the Win2003 box, yet not from the BSD 
box?

All 3 boxes have the same network setup, except for this: There is no 
'domain' for the 3 boxes. The IIS box is on its own workgroup DMZ, the 
win2003 box is its own domain 'test.local'. The BSD box has 'domain 
simrad.com' as the first line of resolv.conf. What are the implications of 
this?

I will be sending a message to the firewall administrator in Norway (I am 
in the US) with the info above, maybe he can find something on the 
firewall to change to make everything work.
I hope.
Regards,
Chip


 There are many many possibilities for what could be wrong, but it's hard
 for us to say.  Let us know what you find on those tests.
 
 Jerry
 http://www.syslog.org
 
  here in our office we have a firewall running Firewall-1 (it is
  administered remotely from another office in another country). It is 
set
  up with a dmz so I can host a web server (which is running IIS), but 
it
  works. I am now adding another web server, running Apache/FreeBSD. 
Problem
  is the FBSD box does not ping anything. The IIS box can ping the FBSD 
box
  and get a response from it. I have used the same network settings on 
the
  FBSD box that are on the IIS box, changing only the ipaddress. I don't
  understand why the FBSD box only responds with network not found when
  trying to ping anything. Now the IIS box is not a member of any 
network,
  it is it's own workgroup called DMZ. Is the problem that the FBSD box
  needs to be a member of the workgroup DMZ? And if so, how do I get it
  there?
 
  Regards,
  Chip
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screwy network/dmz problem

2005-04-04 Thread Chip Wiegand
here in our office we have a firewall running Firewall-1 (it is 
administered remotely from another office in another country). It is set 
up with a dmz so I can host a web server (which is running IIS), but it 
works. I am now adding another web server, running Apache/FreeBSD. Problem 
is the FBSD box does not ping anything. The IIS box can ping the FBSD box 
and get a response from it. I have used the same network settings on the 
FBSD box that are on the IIS box, changing only the ipaddress. I don't 
understand why the FBSD box only responds with network not found when 
trying to ping anything. Now the IIS box is not a member of any network, 
it is it's own workgroup called DMZ. Is the problem that the FBSD box 
needs to be a member of the workgroup DMZ? And if so, how do I get it 
there?

Regards,
Chip
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Re: screwy network/dmz problem

2005-04-04 Thread Jerry Bell
The first thing I would check is that it's the BSD box that you are
actually pinging.  I'd try unplugging it and trying the ping again from
the IIS box.  Barring that, I would double and triple check the network
mask on the BSD box.  Also, make sure you don't have some screwy firewall
rules on the BSD server that prevent outbound pings.
Next, look at the output of 'netstat -rn'
You should see entries for the default gateway as well as your local
network.  If all looks good there, check your arp table with arp -a.  If
you don't see anything there, it's probably a layer 1 or 2 problem
(cabling/vlan).
There are many many possibilities for what could be wrong, but it's hard
for us to say.  Let us know what you find on those tests.

Jerry
http://www.syslog.org

 here in our office we have a firewall running Firewall-1 (it is
 administered remotely from another office in another country). It is set
 up with a dmz so I can host a web server (which is running IIS), but it
 works. I am now adding another web server, running Apache/FreeBSD. Problem
 is the FBSD box does not ping anything. The IIS box can ping the FBSD box
 and get a response from it. I have used the same network settings on the
 FBSD box that are on the IIS box, changing only the ipaddress. I don't
 understand why the FBSD box only responds with network not found when
 trying to ping anything. Now the IIS box is not a member of any network,
 it is it's own workgroup called DMZ. Is the problem that the FBSD box
 needs to be a member of the workgroup DMZ? And if so, how do I get it
 there?

 Regards,
 Chip
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