Re: update from 7.0 to 7.2?

2009-06-30 Thread Albert Shih
 Le 29/06/2009 à 15:20:59-0400, Lowell Gilbert a écrit
 Brad Mettee bmet...@pchotshots.com writes:
 
  If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail  web
  pages as needed, is there any reason to update from this:
  FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb
  24 10:35:36 UTC 2008
  r...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
 
  To something newer? (like 7.2 stable)
 
  Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update?
 
 At *least* make sure you get the security updates...
 
Other reason to make time to time a update is to simplify you life when
your old version don't work after N years. Someday you may have (for example)
postfix don't work anymore on you old version. So when you don't have the
choice, the update may very hard to make.

Regards.


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Re: update from 7.0 to 7.2?

2009-06-30 Thread Olivier Nicole
  Brad Mettee bmet...@pchotshots.com writes:
  
   If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail  web
   pages as needed, is there any reason to update from this:
   FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb
   24 10:35:36 UTC 2008
   r...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
  
   To something newer? (like 7.2 stable)
  
   Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update?
  
  At *least* make sure you get the security updates...
  
 Other reason to make time to time a update is to simplify you life when
 your old version don't work after N years. Someday you may have (for example)
 postfix don't work anymore on you old version. So when you don't have the
 choice, the update may very hard to make.

Another reason to consider, at some date, 7.0 will not be amintained
anymore.

At that time you may be facing difficulties to upgrade to the latest
legacy release: upgrades are better tested when done in sequence: 7.0
to 7.1, 7.1 to 7.2, etc. 7.x to 8.y. 7.0 to 8.y may work, or may
not. So you better not stay too far behind.

Bests,

Olivier
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update from 7.0 to 7.2?

2009-06-29 Thread Brad Mettee
If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail  web pages as 
needed, is there any reason to update from this:
FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 
10:35:36 UTC 
2008 r...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64


To something newer? (like 7.2 stable)

Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update?

Thanks

Brad Mettee
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Re: update from 7.0 to 7.2?

2009-06-29 Thread Andreas Rudisch
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:05:29 -0400
Brad Mettee bmet...@pchotshots.com wrote:

 If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail  web pages as 
 needed, is there any reason to update from this:
 FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 
 10:35:36 UTC 
 2008 r...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
 
 To something newer? (like 7.2 stable)
 
 Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update?

You mean other than using a supported system with bug and security fixes?

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Re: update from 7.0 to 7.2?

2009-06-29 Thread Earl Gay
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Brad Mettee bmet...@pchotshots.com wrote:

 If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail  web pages as
 needed, is there any reason to update from this:
 FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24
 10:35:36 UTC 2008 
 r...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
  amd64

 To something newer? (like 7.2 stable)

 Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update?

 Thanks

Brad Mettee
PC HotShots, Inc.
Baltimore, MD
(410) 426-7617



There's always the if it ain't broke, don't fix it belief. If you're using
ZFS, 7.2-STABLE has the latest ZFS update; comparitavely, 7.1-RELEASE has a
longer time until end-of-life. You could also check out the release notes to
see if any of the updates are something worth upgrading for, respective to
your needs/setup.

Regards,
Earl
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Re: update from 7.0 to 7.2?

2009-06-29 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 02:05:29PM -0400, Brad Mettee wrote:
 If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail  web pages as 
 needed, is there any reason to update from this:
 FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 
 10:35:36 UTC 
 2008 r...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
 
 To something newer? (like 7.2 stable)
 
 Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update?
 
It depends. There are vulnerabilities in kernel and userland fixed
between 7.0-RELEASE and 7.2-RELEASE-p2. See
http://security.freebsd.org/advisories.html If any of these
vulneratbilities affect your system you should see if there are
workarounds mentioned. If not it would be best to upgrade. 

If you subscribe tot the freebsd-announce mailing-list, you'll be warned
when a vulnerability is found. You can then judge if it is wise to apply
the fix.

In general, I would follow the minor version branch (RELENG_7_X,
7.2-RELEASE-pX) to pick up fixes for vulnerabilities.

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Re: update from 7.0 to 7.2?

2009-06-29 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Brad Mettee bmet...@pchotshots.com writes:

 If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail  web
 pages as needed, is there any reason to update from this:
 FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb
 24 10:35:36 UTC 2008
 r...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64

 To something newer? (like 7.2 stable)

 Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update?

At *least* make sure you get the security updates...

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Re: update from 7.0 to 7.2?

2009-06-29 Thread Brad Mettee

At 03:20 PM 6/29/2009, you wrote:

Brad Mettee bmet...@pchotshots.com writes:

 If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail  web
 pages as needed, is there any reason to update from this:
 FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb
 24 10:35:36 UTC 2008
 r...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64

 To something newer? (like 7.2 stable)

 Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update?

At *least* make sure you get the security updates...

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Ok, looks like I have some reading to do.

Thanks everyone.


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Re: update from 7.0 to 7.2?

2009-06-29 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

my general concept is not to stick with the releases but to keep 
the kernel on the current development like using RELENG_7 for 
CVS.

You will notice that HAL and DBUS changed. I noticed because of 
this real speed improvements on a slower machine.

Anyway, if this server runs mail and web pages, it is public 
available and so prone to attacks. So, make sure that you have 
the security updates installed.

Erich

On 30 June 2009 am 02:05:29 Brad Mettee wrote:
 If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail 
 web pages as needed, is there any reason to update from this:
 FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0:
 Sun Feb 24 10:35:36 UTC
 2008
 r...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC 
 amd64

 To something newer? (like 7.2 stable)

 Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update?

 Thanks

  Brad Mettee
  PC HotShots, Inc.
  Baltimore, MD
  (410) 426-7617

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freebsd-update from 7.0 to 7.2

2009-06-03 Thread Dave
Hello,
I've got an older machine running 7.0. I ran freebsd-update upgrade
on it to update it to 7.2, aftetr two reboots i'm still seeing 7.0 in the
uname -r output. I did not get any errors during the download or
installation of patches.
Is this a recommended upgrade path?
Thanks.
Dave.

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Re: freebsd-update from 7.0 to 7.2

2009-06-03 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Dave wrote:
 Hello,
   I've got an older machine running 7.0. I ran freebsd-update upgrade
 on it to update it to 7.2, aftetr two reboots i'm still seeing 7.0 in the
 uname -r output. I did not get any errors during the download or
 installation of patches.
   

The syntax for upgrading to a next version is slightly more involved,
please read Handbook's section 24.2.3:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html#FREEBSDUPDATE-UPGRADE

   Is this a recommended upgrade path?
 Thanks.
 Dave.
   

Yes ;)
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How to update from 7.0-stable-200805 to 7.0-stable-200807 ?

2008-08-01 Thread Yavuz Maslak
I use 7.0-STABLE-200805. 

I want to update it to 7.0-STABLE-200807.

How do I update for the last updates clearly ?

is there a way to update without reboot the machine or with only one reboot ?

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Re: How to update from 7.0-stable-200805 to 7.0-stable-200807 ?

2008-08-01 Thread Manolis Kiagias

Yavuz Maslak wrote:
I use 7.0-STABLE-200805. 


I want to update it to 7.0-STABLE-200807.

How do I update for the last updates clearly ?

is there a way to update without reboot the machine or with only one reboot ?


  


Use csup to synchronize your source:

- Copy the file /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile to your home 
dir (run commands as root or with sudo)
- Edit and change default host to a mirror near you  ( 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html#HANDBOOK-MIRRORS-CHAPTER-SGML-CENTRAL-CVSUP 
)


- csup -g -L2 stable-supfile

- Follow these instructions to rebuild your system:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html

You will need to reboot twice, once after you install the kernel and a 
second time when you install world, after the final mergemaster step.

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dns update for 7.0

2008-07-10 Thread Joshua Frugé
I just joined the list (but did search the archive), so I apologize in
advance if this was already answered and I missed it.

What's the process to update the base bind in freebsd for the new
cacheing poisoning vuln that seems to be all the rage lately?

I'm running freebsd 7.0-RELEASE-p2 and I am using the included base
bind 9.4.2 as resolver for my network.  Will there be an update
through freebsd-update to upgrade to bind 9.4.2-p1, or is there some
other process I need to followcompile source and replace?.

Thanks,

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Re: dns update for 7.0

2008-07-10 Thread Matthew Seaman

Joshua Frugé wrote:

I just joined the list (but did search the archive), so I apologize in
advance if this was already answered and I missed it.

What's the process to update the base bind in freebsd for the new
cacheing poisoning vuln that seems to be all the rage lately?

I'm running freebsd 7.0-RELEASE-p2 and I am using the included base
bind 9.4.2 as resolver for my network.  Will there be an update
through freebsd-update to upgrade to bind 9.4.2-p1, or is there some
other process I need to followcompile source and replace?.


I recommend you install one or other of the bind ports:

  dns/bin9
  dns/bind94
  dns/bind95

All of these were updated last night to include the UDP port
randomization stuff in the latest security patch. (There's not much
point in installing dns/bind9 though, as that's a downgrade to bind9.3
from the system supplied bind-9.4.2)

You don't need to overwrite the base system bind -- the vulnerability
works on the cache of a running instance of named when configured as a 
recursive resolver.  So as long as you start up the patched daemon, everything 
should be fine.

To start up the version of bind you just installed from ports, add

 named_enable=YES
 named_program=/usr/local/sbin/named
 named_flags=-c /etc/namedb/named.conf

to /etc/rc.conf and then run:

 /etc/rc.d/named restart

and check your system logs for a line saying something like:

starting BIND 9.X.Y-P1 -c /etc/namedb/named.conf -t /var/named -u bind

where the 'P1' bit shows you're running the patched version.

There may well be a security notice and a patch for the base system
generated in the next few days: the security team is looking into the
matter and will respond in due course.  D-day for having everything 
properly patched is the presentation Dan Kaminsky is doing at the

Blackhats conference on August 6th (or possibly August 7th)

The patches ISC  have produced will have an adverse effect if you're 
answering something in excess of  10,000 DNS queries a second, which is 
rather more than most people would get to deal with, but are otherwise 
innocuous.


 http://www.isc.org/index.pl?/sw/bind/bind-security.php

To test if a recursive nameserver is potentially vulnerable, grab
the perl script from this site:

 http://michael.toren.net/code/noclicky/

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: dns update for 7.0

2008-07-10 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:05:11 -0500 Joshua Frugé 
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I just joined the list (but did search the archive), so I apologize in
advance if this was already answered and I missed it.

What's the process to update the base bind in freebsd for the new
cacheing poisoning vuln that seems to be all the rage lately?

I'm running freebsd 7.0-RELEASE-p2 and I am using the included base
bind 9.4.2 as resolver for my network.  Will there be an update
through freebsd-update to upgrade to bind 9.4.2-p1, or is there some
other process I need to followcompile source and replace?.



Base bind is updated by freebsd-update *assuming* you are using the base bind 
and not the port bind *and* assuming you haven't altered any of the binaries by 
patching them manually.  You can, of course, use the tried and true make 
buildworld process to update it as well *when* the patches are released.


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update to 7.0

2007-09-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
if i will update to freebsd 7.0 server running many jails, can jails run 
having 6.2p7 binaries unchanged?


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