Re: window managers don't work over ssh

2005-01-19 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:43:27 +
Xian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I cant seem to make any window manager work over ssh, but they all
> work locally. I am using Xorg now, and i didn't have this problem
> with XFree86.
> 
> I start X with just xterm for testing:
> 
>  startx /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm
> 
> and then type
> 
>  ssh -CXf my.home.machine twm
> 
> in the xterm and it tells me it cant find any unmanaged screens.
> 
> Ive no idea whats doing wrong because other X apps work over ssh and
> window managers work locally.
> 
> Any help much appreciated.

Not sure of what it would be, but the freebsd x11 mailing list would
probally be useful. Also trying a xorg specific list may be useful.

Best of luck.
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Re: window managers don't work over ssh

2005-01-19 Thread Xian
On Tuesday 18 January 2005 10:19, Xian wrote:
> On Tuesday 18 January 2005 01:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 11:43:27PM +, Xian wrote:
> > > I cant seem to make any window manager work over ssh, but they all work
> > > locally. I am using Xorg now, and i didn't have this problem with
> > > XFree86.
> > >
> > > I start X with just xterm for testing:
> > >
> > >  startx /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm
> > >
> > > and then type
> > >
> > >  ssh -CXf my.home.machine twm
> >
> > Hello Xian,
> >
> > sometimes using -Y instead of -X solves a lot of X11 forwarding
> > problems. Not sure if it would solve your problem, but did you try this?
> >
> > > in the xterm and it tells me it cant find any unmanaged screens.
> > >
> > > Ive no idea whats doing wrong because other X apps work over ssh and
> > > window managers work locally.
> > >
> > > Any help much appreciated.
> > > --
> > > /Xian
> >
> > Good luck,
> > -cpghost.
>
> -Y does work on my main machine to test it
>
>  startx /usr/bin/ssh -Y anothe.machine twm -- :1
>
> I will mostly be using this from college as I take a FreeSBIE CD with me
> and us that instead of whatever M$ windowz happens to be on the machine.
> I'll have a good look into what -Y really dose today.
>
> Thanks :D

I'm not quite sure what -Y does after reading the ssh man page. I see that it 
give the X client more access to your server in some way but not what way. I 
am running the X server from a FreeSBIE machine, and connecting to my home 
machine to run KDE. Is this secure enough?

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/Xian

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Re: window managers don't work over ssh

2005-01-18 Thread Xian
On Tuesday 18 January 2005 01:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 11:43:27PM +, Xian wrote:
> > I cant seem to make any window manager work over ssh, but they all work
> > locally. I am using Xorg now, and i didn't have this problem with
> > XFree86.
> >
> > I start X with just xterm for testing:
> >
> >  startx /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm
> >
> > and then type
> >
> >  ssh -CXf my.home.machine twm
>
> Hello Xian,
>
> sometimes using -Y instead of -X solves a lot of X11 forwarding
> problems. Not sure if it would solve your problem, but did you try this?
>
> > in the xterm and it tells me it cant find any unmanaged screens.
> >
> > Ive no idea whats doing wrong because other X apps work over ssh and
> > window managers work locally.
> >
> > Any help much appreciated.
> > --
> > /Xian
>
> Good luck,
> -cpghost.

-Y does work on my main machine to test it

 startx /usr/bin/ssh -Y anothe.machine twm -- :1

I will mostly be using this from college as I take a FreeSBIE CD with me and 
us that instead of whatever M$ windowz happens to be on the machine. I'll 
have a good look into what -Y really dose today.

Thanks :D

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/Xian

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Re: window managers don't work over ssh

2005-01-17 Thread Christian Hiris
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On Tuesday 18 January 2005 02:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
> Hello Xian,
>
> sometimes using -Y instead of -X solves a lot of X11 forwarding
> problems. Not sure if it would solve your problem, but did you try this?

If you use this in a multiuser environment, please also read about the 
securtity considerations of options "ForwardX11" and "ForwardX11Trusted" in 
'man 5 ssh_config' . 

Cheers,
ch

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Re: window managers don't work over ssh

2005-01-17 Thread Kris Maglione
Kris Maglione wrote:
what's in your ~/.xinitrc ?
you may be running twm or the like.
Oh, you're trying to run twm. I guess that's not what's running, then.


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Re: window managers don't work over ssh

2005-01-17 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Jan 18, 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 11:43:27PM +, Xian wrote:
>> I cant seem to make any window manager work over ssh, but they all work 
>> locally. I am using Xorg now, and i didn't have this problem with XFree86.
>> 
>> I start X with just xterm for testing:
>> 
>>  startx /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm
>> 
>> and then type
>> 
>>  ssh -CXf my.home.machine twm
>
>Hello Xian,
>
>sometimes using -Y instead of -X solves a lot of X11 forwarding
>problems. Not sure if it would solve your problem, but did you try this?

Several conditions have to be met to forward X11 using ssh/openssh:

  1.  The sshd_config file on the machine you're connecting to has to have
  ``X11Forwarding yes'' set.

  2.  On the client machine, the ssh_config file needs ``ForwardX11 yes''
  or the ssh command must use the ``-X'' option.

  3.  On newer versions of openssh, the client ssh_config must have
  ``ForwardX11Trusted yes''.

Bill
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Re: window managers don't work over ssh

2005-01-17 Thread cpghost
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 11:43:27PM +, Xian wrote:
> I cant seem to make any window manager work over ssh, but they all work 
> locally. I am using Xorg now, and i didn't have this problem with XFree86.
> 
> I start X with just xterm for testing:
> 
>  startx /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm
> 
> and then type
> 
>  ssh -CXf my.home.machine twm

Hello Xian,

sometimes using -Y instead of -X solves a lot of X11 forwarding
problems. Not sure if it would solve your problem, but did you try this?

> in the xterm and it tells me it cant find any unmanaged screens.
> 
> Ive no idea whats doing wrong because other X apps work over ssh and window 
> managers work locally.
> 
> Any help much appreciated.
> -- 
> /Xian

Good luck,
-cpghost.

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Re: window managers don't work over ssh

2005-01-17 Thread Kris Maglione
what's in your ~/.xinitrc ?
you may be running twm or the like.
Xian wrote:
I cant seem to make any window manager work over ssh, but they all work 
locally. I am using Xorg now, and i didn't have this problem with XFree86.

I start X with just xterm for testing:
startx /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm
and then type
ssh -CXf my.home.machine twm
in the xterm and it tells me it cant find any unmanaged screens.
Ive no idea whats doing wrong because other X apps work over ssh and window 
managers work locally.

Any help much appreciated.
 




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window managers don't work over ssh

2005-01-17 Thread Xian
I cant seem to make any window manager work over ssh, but they all work 
locally. I am using Xorg now, and i didn't have this problem with XFree86.

I start X with just xterm for testing:

 startx /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm

and then type

 ssh -CXf my.home.machine twm

in the xterm and it tells me it cant find any unmanaged screens.

Ive no idea whats doing wrong because other X apps work over ssh and window 
managers work locally.

Any help much appreciated.
-- 
/Xian

"Knowledge speaks but wisdom listens"
Jimi Hendrix
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