Re: Ports Secteam

2015-06-10 Thread Wesley Shields
As I've been unable to contribute to this team or to ports much lately I hereby 
request that I be removed from this team. I'd rather someone else who is more 
actively engaged take my spot.

-- WXS

> On Jun 8, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Xin Li  wrote:
> 
> Signed PGP part
> On 06/08/15 14:37, Robert Simmons wrote:
> > I'm sure that the reason these questions have not been answered is
> > simply because they may have gotten lost in the volume of traffic
> > on freebsd-ports. In the following thread, there are a number of
> > folks with enough passion to volunteer time to help with the Ports
> > Secteam, but we're having difficulty getting a few basic questions
> > answered.
> > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2015-May/099268.html
> >
> >  Here are the basic questions:
> >
> > Who are the members of the Ports Secteam?
> 
> Current members include the current security officers (who act as a
> fallback when needed and a contact for liaison for sensitive and
> embargoed information) and:
> 
> Eitan Adler (eadler@);
> Jason Helfman (jgh@);
> Martin Wilke (miwi@);
> Eygene Ryabinkin (rea@);
> Sofian Brabez (sbz@);
> Simon L. B. Nielsen (simon@, clusteradm@ liaison);
> Steve Wills (swills@);
> Wesley Shields (wxs@);
> Ryan Steinmetz (zi@);
> 
> > How does one join the Ports Secteam?
> 
> Per previous discussion with portmgr@, members are volunteers selected
> by the Security Officer from active ports committers who have made
> commits in the ports tree in the last 90 days.
> 
> Cheers,
> --
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Re: Ports Secteam

2015-06-10 Thread Eitan Adler
On 9 June 2015 at 22:30, Mark Felder  wrote:

>
> How do we make the ports-secteam effective again? Team members?
> Infrastructure? New documentation and procedures?

ports-secteam's scope has grown since it was created.  The team needs
new, active, members to be able to deal with the VuXML and quarterly
branch portion of its work.  We also need to creating tooling to make
this easier: for instance it would be really awesome to automatically
create VuXML entries from CVE/CPE data.

> However, I'm not sure
> "number of commits" is necessarily a valuable metric when considering
> candidates...

I agree.  I *am* active as a ports-security member: I monitor relevent
open & closed security lists for concerns that may affect FreeBSD.  In
addition I watch pkgng development for new security concerns.  That
said, I havn't committed to the ports tree very much lately.

-- 
Eitan Adler
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Re: Ports Secteam

2015-06-09 Thread Mark Felder


On Mon, Jun 8, 2015, at 18:31, Xin Li wrote:
> 
> On 06/08/15 14:37, Robert Simmons wrote:
> > I'm sure that the reason these questions have not been answered is 
> > simply because they may have gotten lost in the volume of traffic
> > on freebsd-ports. In the following thread, there are a number of
> > folks with enough passion to volunteer time to help with the Ports
> > Secteam, but we're having difficulty getting a few basic questions
> > answered. 
> > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2015-May/099268.html
> >
> >  Here are the basic questions:
> > 
> > Who are the members of the Ports Secteam?
> 
> Current members include the current security officers (who act as a
> fallback when needed and a contact for liaison for sensitive and
> embargoed information) and:
> 
> Eitan Adler (eadler@);
> Jason Helfman (jgh@);
> Martin Wilke (miwi@);
> Eygene Ryabinkin (rea@);
> Sofian Brabez (sbz@);
> Simon L. B. Nielsen (simon@, clusteradm@ liaison);
> Steve Wills (swills@);
> Wesley Shields (wxs@);
> Ryan Steinmetz (zi@);
> 
> > How does one join the Ports Secteam?
> 
> Per previous discussion with portmgr@, members are volunteers selected
> by the Security Officer from active ports committers who have made
> commits in the ports tree in the last 90 days.
> 

miwi stepped down 7 months ago. His name on this list is a huge red flag
that there is a lack of care and feeding for this team. As long as my
script isn't broken, here are the number of commits from March 1st
through June 1st by each committer in that list:

eadler:6
jgh:   49
miwi:0
rea:5
sbz:    2
simon:0
swills:  117
wxs:1
zi:   64

There's an obvious lack of activity in that list and I would expect
participation in ports-secteam duties to be closely monitored and have
members rotated out if they take time away. My participation in the
ports tree has been rather sporadic lately, but the script I used
indicates I've 85 commits in that time period. However, I'm not sure
"number of commits" is necessarily a valuable metric when considering
candidates...

How do we make the ports-secteam effective again? Team members?
Infrastructure? New documentation and procedures?
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Re: Ports Secteam

2015-06-09 Thread Remko Lodder
Hi,

> 
> On June 9, 2015 at 1:59 AM Robert Simmons  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Xin Li  wrote:
> > On 06/08/15 14:37, Robert Simmons wrote:
> >> I'm sure that the reason these questions have not been answered is
> >> simply because they may have gotten lost in the volume of traffic
> >> on freebsd-ports. In the following thread, there are a number of
> >> folks with enough passion to volunteer time to help with the Ports
> >> Secteam, but we're having difficulty getting a few basic questions
> >> answered.
> >> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2015-May/099268.html
> >>
> >> Here are the basic questions:
> >>
> >> Who are the members of the Ports Secteam?
> >
> > Current members include the current security officers (who act as a
> > fallback when needed and a contact for liaison for sensitive and
> > embargoed information) and:
> >
> > Eitan Adler (eadler@);
> > Jason Helfman (jgh@);
> > Martin Wilke (miwi@);
> > Eygene Ryabinkin (rea@);
> > Sofian Brabez (sbz@);
>     > Simon L. B. Nielsen (simon@, clusteradm@ liaison);
> > Steve Wills (swills@);
> > Wesley Shields (wxs@);
> > Ryan Steinmetz (zi@);
> >
> >> How does one join the Ports Secteam?
> >
> > Per previous discussion with portmgr@, members are volunteers selected
> > by the Security Officer from active ports committers who have made
> > commits in the ports tree in the last 90 days.
> 
> Excellent. Thanks for the quick reply!
> 
> So, if membership requires committership, what is the next best way to
> help the team?
> ___
> 

I think that actively sending patches would help in getting in information
sooner.

A PR with the patch would greatly assist in that.


Cheers

Remko
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Re: Ports Secteam

2015-06-08 Thread Robert Simmons
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Xin Li  wrote:
> On 06/08/15 14:37, Robert Simmons wrote:
>> I'm sure that the reason these questions have not been answered is
>> simply because they may have gotten lost in the volume of traffic
>> on freebsd-ports. In the following thread, there are a number of
>> folks with enough passion to volunteer time to help with the Ports
>> Secteam, but we're having difficulty getting a few basic questions
>> answered.
>> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2015-May/099268.html
>>
>>  Here are the basic questions:
>>
>> Who are the members of the Ports Secteam?
>
> Current members include the current security officers (who act as a
> fallback when needed and a contact for liaison for sensitive and
> embargoed information) and:
>
> Eitan Adler (eadler@);
> Jason Helfman (jgh@);
> Martin Wilke (miwi@);
> Eygene Ryabinkin (rea@);
> Sofian Brabez (sbz@);
> Simon L. B. Nielsen (simon@, clusteradm@ liaison);
> Steve Wills (swills@);
> Wesley Shields (wxs@);
> Ryan Steinmetz (zi@);
>
>> How does one join the Ports Secteam?
>
> Per previous discussion with portmgr@, members are volunteers selected
> by the Security Officer from active ports committers who have made
> commits in the ports tree in the last 90 days.

Excellent. Thanks for the quick reply!

So, if membership requires committership, what is the next best way to
help the team?
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Re: Ports Secteam

2015-06-08 Thread Xin Li
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On 06/08/15 14:37, Robert Simmons wrote:
> I'm sure that the reason these questions have not been answered is 
> simply because they may have gotten lost in the volume of traffic
> on freebsd-ports. In the following thread, there are a number of
> folks with enough passion to volunteer time to help with the Ports
> Secteam, but we're having difficulty getting a few basic questions
> answered. 
> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2015-May/099268.html
>
>  Here are the basic questions:
> 
> Who are the members of the Ports Secteam?

Current members include the current security officers (who act as a
fallback when needed and a contact for liaison for sensitive and
embargoed information) and:

Eitan Adler (eadler@);
Jason Helfman (jgh@);
Martin Wilke (miwi@);
Eygene Ryabinkin (rea@);
Sofian Brabez (sbz@);
Simon L. B. Nielsen (simon@, clusteradm@ liaison);
Steve Wills (swills@);
Wesley Shields (wxs@);
Ryan Steinmetz (zi@);

> How does one join the Ports Secteam?

Per previous discussion with portmgr@, members are volunteers selected
by the Security Officer from active ports committers who have made
commits in the ports tree in the last 90 days.

Cheers,
- -- 
Xin LI https://www.delphij.net/
FreeBSD - The Power to Serve!   Live free or die
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Ports Secteam

2015-06-08 Thread Robert Simmons
I'm sure that the reason these questions have not been answered is
simply because they may have gotten lost in the volume of traffic on
freebsd-ports. In the following thread, there are a number of folks
with enough passion to volunteer time to help with the Ports Secteam,
but we're having difficulty getting a few basic questions answered.
https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2015-May/099268.html

Here are the basic questions:

Who are the members of the Ports Secteam?

How does one join the Ports Secteam?
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