Re: -stable (in)stability (was Re: Best version of FBSD for INN ?)

[Adrian Penisoara]

Hi,

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

> I'd suggest trying a 3.3-stable snapshot, just as soon as I can
> get those rolling off of releng3.freebsd.org again.  If it still
> occurs, we're now at least debugging the latest and greatest.

 Isn't -STABLE tracking OK ?
 Unfortunately I don't think I can afford reinstalling a new release (this
is a production server). Do you think the installation got somehow trashed
during these succesive updates (with 'make [build|install]world') ? I've
been thinking about remote attacks too (there are no user shells), could
this be a cause ?

 BTW, this morning my co-workers caught another freeze; luckily I left a
top running on a VTY; they told me that the majority of the processes were
in the "idle" STATE -- strange, I haven't seen this in top until now.
Could this be a hint ?


> 
> - Jordan
> 

 Thanks,
 Ady (@warpnet.ro)



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Re: problems with adaptec 2940 cards on 3.3-STABLE

[Brad Knowles]

At 10:11 PM -0400 1999/9/28, Alok K. Dhir wrote:

> I'd suspect the external SCSI cable if disconnecting it (and presumably
> enabling termination on the card) fixed the problem...  I wouldn't rule
> out cables just because you have 2 machines with the same hardware...

I wouldn't be surprised if the cables were marginally okay for UW 
use, but fail miserably for U2W LVD use.  They may not even be 
differential SCSI cables, and in that case I would expect major 
problems in trying to use them with U2W LVD drives.

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Re: Problem adding aic driver to kernel

[Daniel C. Sobral]

"Lowkrantz, Goran" wrote:
> 
> What does the following text in the release notes mean in the current
> context?
> 
> [snipp]
> 
> The following drivers were supported under the old SCSI subsystem, but are
> NOT YET supported under the new CAM SCSI subsystem:
> 
> [snipp]
> 
> I would interpret this as I can get them working somehow in 3.3R.

Huh? What part of "NOT YET supported" don't you understand? Now, I
*hate* not having AIC support, as it prevents me from having X and a
cvs tree in my computer, but the statement looks pretty clear to me.

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Re: Cdrecord problems to record 1 CD

[Matt Behrens]

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Ed Watkeys wrote:

: Reading through the mkisofs man page, it that that the ISO image
: should contain all of the information necessary to make this CD-R
: bootable. Has anyone actually booted off of a CD-R that they've burnt
: from the September 17, 1999, image? The disc works fine for installing
: packages, etc., but it fails with an error during boot that looks
: something like "Booting from ATAPI CD-ROM: Failure." (Most of the
: machines around here have Award BIOS, and they all give that error.)

This might be useful information; I don't know.  I was burning a
few (untested right now) and one of the CD-Rs I had would not start
recording at sector 0; instead it tried to start recording at sector
49,000-something.  SInce the CD-R had never been used before I
assumed it was bad.  Now with 49,000 extra sectors, I could not
complete the burn (it ran out of room) -- but with just a few, you
might be prevented from burning the CD...

Just a thought :-)

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Re: Problem adding aic driver to kernel

[Daniel C. Sobral]

"Lowkrantz, Goran" wrote:
> 
> Just as a note, there is not a word in the release notes that the old SCSI
> and the CAM SCSI can't exist at the same time on the same machine. If CAM is
> the only SCSI subsystem that can live on a 3.x system, I would say that all
> the cards that use a driver not available in CAM is not supported on a
> FreeBSD 3.x. Then they should not be in the list of supported cards. The way
> I interpret the word supported, if something is supported in an operating
> system, it works. Feel free to have any other interpretation but then it's
> marketing.

This information is there so that people who have one of these cards
can find that it is no longer supported. If we kept silent, people
would try to upgrade systems that rely on non-supported hardware
just because it was previously supported.

It was wishful reading on your part.

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Re: KDE 1.1.2 - screensaver password problem

[Lachlan O'Dea]

On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 12:48:57PM -0700, Doug wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Evren Yurtesen wrote:
> 
> > I have the same problem. I even tried to put old screen saver
> > programs there but it did not help any.
> > Would you send me email if you can find a solution?
> 
>   Before I forget this question really belongs on the -questions
> list where it was covered in depth recently. The problem is that the kde
> screensavers in 1.1.2 don't have the suid bit. 'chmod u+s
> /usr/local/bin/*.kss' is the shotgun solution, you might want to enable
> only the one(s) you actually use. 

Cool. However, I found that after I rebuilt the screensavers and did a
make install by hand, the screensaver unlocked properly. The make
install did not set the suid bit on the *.kss files. Maybe it's because I
configured it to use PAM.

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symlink with mode

[G.P.]

Hi!
What peculiar feature is it, that symlinks have modes !=0777 depending on
the umask when they have been created?

# umask 0777
# ln -fs xx yy
# ls -l yy
l-  1 pruess  sophie  2 Sep 29 13:54 yy@ -> xx
# umask 
# ln -fs xx yy
# ls -l yy
lrwxrwxrwx  1 pruess  sophie  2 Sep 29 13:55 yy@ -> xx

Of course the mode is inaccessible by chmod.

Thanks,
Gunnar
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Re: Cdrecord problems to record 1 CD

[Ed Watkeys]

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

> All bootable Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD CDs use the El Torrito boot
> hack to accomplish their purpose.  It's the -b flag to mkisofs.

> Yes.  However, it seems to have problems with ATAPI CDROM drives
> (where it works fine with SCSI) and we're still scratching our heads
> over that one.  What works for one should work for both, but no.  It
> would be a lot easier to debug if it just plain didn't work for
> *anyone*, you know? :)

Well, to make this a bit more depressing, I burned the ISO image using
Adaptec's "Easy CD Creator" on an NT machine around here, and I got
exactly the same behavior -- fine image, no booting. (Same ATAPI CD-RW
drive.)

Which makes me begin to wonder about the image...

Anyway, the next steps are to bring in my Philips SCSI CD-R and give
things a whirl. On a Mac, with Windows, and with FreeBSD.

I'm still looking for someone who's successfully booted from this
image.

Ed

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Re: problems with adaptec 2940 cards on 3.3-STABLE

[Bruce A. Mah]

If memory serves me right, Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 10:11 PM -0400 1999/9/28, Alok K. Dhir wrote:
> 
> > I'd suspect the external SCSI cable if disconnecting it (and presumably
> > enabling termination on the card) fixed the problem...  I wouldn't rule
> > out cables just because you have 2 machines with the same hardware...
> 
>   I wouldn't be surprised if the cables were marginally okay for UW 
> use, but fail miserably for U2W LVD use.  They may not even be 
> differential SCSI cables, and in that case I would expect major 
> problems in trying to use them with U2W LVD drives.

It's not clear whether this post is applicable or not to this 
situation, but...

A lesson I learned last week is to check the connectors for bent pins.  
I had a 2940U2W that I was convinced was broken, until one of my 
cow-orkers checked the connectors and found a bent pin.  I wasted about 
a half a day because it didn't dawn upon me to check for this failure 
mode.

Bruce.




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Re: Cdrecord problems to record 1 CD

[Jim King]

At 08:59 AM 9/29/1999 -0400, Ed Watkeys wrote:
>On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
>
> > All bootable Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD CDs use the El Torrito boot
> > hack to accomplish their purpose.  It's the -b flag to mkisofs.
>
> > Yes.  However, it seems to have problems with ATAPI CDROM drives
> > (where it works fine with SCSI) and we're still scratching our heads
> > over that one.  What works for one should work for both, but no.  It
> > would be a lot easier to debug if it just plain didn't work for
> > *anyone*, you know? :)
>
>Well, to make this a bit more depressing, I burned the ISO image using
>Adaptec's "Easy CD Creator" on an NT machine around here, and I got
>exactly the same behavior -- fine image, no booting. (Same ATAPI CD-RW
>drive.)
>
>Which makes me begin to wonder about the image...
>
>Anyway, the next steps are to bring in my Philips SCSI CD-R and give
>things a whirl. On a Mac, with Windows, and with FreeBSD.
>
>I'm still looking for someone who's successfully booted from this
>image.

I just burned the image on an NT box using Goldenhawk's Cdrwin.  The CD 
boots just fine on a Compaq AP400 with an ATAPI CDROM.

Jim



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Re: vinum experiences (not as documented, at least).

[Brad Knowles]

At 11:49 AM -0400 1999/9/29, David Gilbert wrote:

> Well... firstly, the design of the system was to put everything (even
> swap) on the RAID drive.  The root is outside, of course... and this
> took some doing, but that's how the system is currently configured.
> I'm not confident that dumping to the raid-swap would be correct.

Hmm.  Since crash dumps are written by a process that I do not 
believe is vinum aware, I'd be willing to bet that they won't 
properly be written.  Even if that did work, I'm not sure where the 
crash dump recovery process is fired up, but I'd be willing to guess 
that it's before vinum gets started, so you'd have to also make some 
modifications there.

> I may be able to find another drive to dump to, but that will take
> several days.

Swap and dump is not something that I would tend to be inclined 
to put on vinum.  At least not until we can get to the point where we 
can put all filesystems under vinum, including the root filesystem.

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Re: Cdrecord problems to record 1 CD

[Daniel C. Sobral]

Ed Watkeys wrote:
> 
> The information on burning CDs under FreeBSD is very spotty. I've been
> to the freebsd.org site, dejanews, and altavista, only to scrape
> together fragments of info. I'd be happy to collect and organize this
> information if people out there have it.

The following was posted to -current. I expect some of it might not
be applicable, but, hey, it's information, right? :-)

From: Amancio Hasty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   08/20/99 18:37
Subject: How To Burn CDs
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This is a summary of the information that I gather over the last 
few days with respect to CD recorders.


It appears that the preferred and better supported CD recorders are
scsi . To shorten the gap what is needed is for ATAPI cd recorders
to be integrated into CAM so that we may present a unified interface
to both ATAPI and SCSI CD drives. Post on -hackers if you are 
interested in working on such a project.



The rest of this document will deal with scsi cd recorders.


Software Tools :

cdrecord is used to  burn the CDs . cdrecord http home:
http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/cdr
ecord.htm

cdrecord supports CD-R, CD-RW and Audio CD (Red Book)
formants.

cdda2wav which is now bundled with cdrecord can extract audio CD
tracks.

 cdrecord is part of the ports/sysutils collection.


toshais another scsi tool to extract CD audio tracks and it is
   in the ports/audio directory . tosha is native program to 
   FreeBSD. tosha was written by Oliver Fromme  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

cdd  another native freebsd program to extract CD audio tracks
was
   written by Charles Henrich and is 
   part of the ports/audio collection.

mkisofs  is used to create an iso 9660 cd image. It is located 
 in the ports/sysutils collection


If one of the audio "rippers" does not work report the problem after
first making sure that the program does indeed support your
CD disk unit and then just try another one.


For a list of "reported to work" drives that work with cdrecord +
cdd2wav see:
http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/cdw
riters-1.8.html

External vs. Internal I find that my YAMAHA CRW6416sz scsi cd 
recorder runs rather cool . Some members on the list have reported
that at least early models of their CD-Recorders run hot so they
preferred
to have them external due to the heat problem and/or portability .



A little bit on cdrecord.

To determine which scsi recorder is installed in your system issue:

cdrecorder -scanbus

Cdrecord release 1.8a22 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 Jörg Schilling
scsibus0:
  0) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST34501W' '0017' Disk
  1) 'YAMAHA  ' 'CRW6416S' '1.0b' Removable
CD-ROM
  2) *
  3) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST15150W' '0023' Disk
  4) *
  5) *
  6) *
  7) *
scsibus1:
100) *
101) *
102) *
103) *
104) *
105) 'UMAX' 'UMAX S-12   ' 'V2.0' Scanner
106) *
107) *

So my Yamaha CD recorder is scsi bus 0 , scsi address 1, lun 0.

I recommend sticking this information in /etc/default/record
cat /etc/default/cdrecord 
CDR_DEVICE=1,0

What this means is that every time that cdrecord runs it 
gets is device info from /etc/default/cdrecord .

If you feel somehow compel to always specify the scsi device in
cdrecord, the syntax is: -dev=bus,scsi address, lun or
  -dev=scsi address, lun

in my case is:

-dev=1,0 (the default scsi bus is 0)




I recommend for the first few times to use a CD-RW. They 
are more expensive than CD-R;however, for playing for the first
time with your scsi cd recorder they can actually probably
save you a lot of money.



Now that you have all your hardware and software in place what can
you do 8)

To create an iso cd9660 with a CD-RW:
 mkisofs -R /mount/dir | cdrecord -blank=fast -v fs=6m speed=3 -

mkisofs pipes an ISO 9660 cd image to cdrecord.

cdrecord does the actual cd burning:
-blank=fastfirst it does a quick blank
-v verbose mode so you can see what is doing
fs=6m  forks a process and uses a 6MB buffer 
speed=3usually CD-RW can only be burned 
   as fast as 4X you will have to experiment
   with your cd recorder to see what speed
   works best.

Take a break pending upon the size of the image the process
can take 1/2 hour to just a few minutes so kick back and relax.


Here is session for creating audio cds.

mkdir cdtracks
cd cdtracks

cddwa2wav -B

This command generates tracks in the format of:
audio_nn.wav where nn is a track number . audio in .wav format
audio_nn.inf where nn is a track n

Re: Cdrecord problems to record 1 CD

[Daniel C. Sobral]

Michael Robinson wrote:
> 
> Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ^^
> >I take this opportunity to say that the choice of downloading the first CD
> >out of the 4 CDs set is very welcome for all of us uncapable of purchasing
> >our own copies due to many reasons I won't explain here.
> 
> This is so amazingly cool, I'm beside myself with glee.
> 
> Viva el BSD Libre!

The translation might be "gratis" instead of "libre", depending on
your view. (If Linuxen, "gratis" is definitely more appropriate :).

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Re: vinum experiences (not as documented, at least).

[David Gilbert]

> "Brad" == Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Brad>   Perhaps others have had problems, but I haven't.  What
Brad> problems have you had in this area?

Well... firstly, the design of the system was to put everything (even
swap) on the RAID drive.  The root is outside, of course... and this
took some doing, but that's how the system is currently configured.
I'm not confident that dumping to the raid-swap would be correct.

I may be able to find another drive to dump to, but that will take
several days.

Dave.

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