Re: strange named behavior in 3.4-STABLE
It's an issue with the new version of Bind - 8.2.2 seems to ping the network on startup, whereas the previous version did not. I haven't found a way around this behaviour but that doesn't mean there isn't one. I noticed this behaviour when I was an early 8.2 adapter via the ports. - Mike H. Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 00:50:01 +0300 From: Lev Serebryakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-RULES: lists Hi, All! I've upgraded from 3.3-STABLE to 3.4-STABLE and notice strange thing: I have ``named'' run on my machine, which have only dial-up Internet connection. I have ``ppp -nat -auto provider'' run too. My named have configured to be primary NS in my network (domain is not registered and IP addresses are from 192.168.xx.xx range). Also, named have ``forward-only'' option and two addresses of my ISP DNS. Whet it was 3.3-STABLE (really -- 3.3-RELEASE with stable kernel) everything works perfectly. PPP doesn't call my ISP until I (or somebody in local network) need connection. But with new system (3.4-RELEASE) ``named'' initiate dial-up just after start! Why new named want to connect when there is no any outgoing packets? How could I disable such behavior? Lev Serebryakov, 2:5030/661.0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: strange named behavior in 3.4-STABLE
I guess the problem is that some utility attempts do use DNS quite early, like sendmail(1). Most probably, you messed up your /etc/hosts file, if not - you may use "DontProbeInterfaces" sendmail option. -- << Marcin Cieslak // [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> - SYSTEM Internet Provider http://www.system.pl To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: /bin/test broken ?
On Fri, Dec 24, 1999 at 11:05:35AM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: > >>That said, the error message should have been: > >>test: ]: unexpected operator > >>and it is not clear why you are getting `[' reported as the program > >>name. > > > >Well, /bin/test and /bin/[ are links to the same inode: > > Agreed, but the error message is printed by errx(3). errx(3) prints > __progname (which is effectively equivalent to argv[0]) as the program > name - ie the name by which the program was invoked. > > test(1) includes a check near the beginning to see it it was invoked as > `[' and if it was it checks to see that the last argument is `]' and > deletes it if it was. In both cases, the remaining arguments are then > passed to the expression evaluator. Why I did an original post is because it appeared that my cron job doesn't work any more: Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 01:30:01 +0300 (MSK) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cron /bin/[ -f /var/run/INET ] && /usr/local/bin/fetchmail >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec 26 01:30:03 1999 [: ]: unexpected operator It _did_ work before. I put your attention that you'd try using /bin/[, not just [ (as someone on this list did). The latter is executed by shell, obviously. Judjed by my logs the last change to /bin/test was on Dec, 16 or somewhere about. -- Vlad Skvortsov, [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: three files in /usr/sbin not updated by make world
> On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, Vivek Khera wrote:
>
> > Three programs in /usr/sbin were not updated. This machine was
> > initially installed a couple of weeks ago using the 3.3-RELEASE CD,
> > and had make world done on it on December 9 as well.
>
> > -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 3148 Sep 16 18:48 ulaw2alaw*
> > -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 3148 Sep 16 18:48 alaw2ulaw*
>
> Hmm, these probably either came from some software you compiled and
> installed yourself (not a port) -- the most likely explanation -- or from
> a port which does the wrong thing and installs under /usr/sbin.
Nahhh... this was/is part of the i4b ISDN software:
gndrsh:rgrimes {655}% find . -name ulaw\*
./usr.sbin/i4b/alawulaw/ulaw2alaw.1
Since that software just went through major revision in -stable this
is probably old cruft that can be blown away...
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Re: three files in /usr/sbin not updated by make world
On Sat, Dec 25, 1999 at 09:09:25AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, jack wrote: > > > > Hmm, these probably either came from some software you compiled and > > > installed yourself (not a port) -- the most likely explanation -- or from > > > a port which does the wrong thing and installs under /usr/sbin. > > > > They're leftovers from the isdn4bsd upgrade from version 0.71 to > > 0.81 back in May. You'll find the source, and man pages, in the > > src/usr.sbin/i4b/alawulaw directory in the Attic. > > Ah yes, good work :-) I got confused and thought these were audio tools. They in fact *are* audio tools used by the scripts/programs in i4b providing answering machine functions. bye, Harold -- Sleep is an abstinence syndrome wich occurs due to lack of caffein. Wed Mar 4 04:53:33 CET 1998 #unix, ircnet To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: three files in /usr/sbin not updated by make world
On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, jack wrote: > > Hmm, these probably either came from some software you compiled and > > installed yourself (not a port) -- the most likely explanation -- or from > > a port which does the wrong thing and installs under /usr/sbin. > > They're leftovers from the isdn4bsd upgrade from version 0.71 to > 0.81 back in May. You'll find the source, and man pages, in the > src/usr.sbin/i4b/alawulaw directory in the Attic. Ah yes, good work :-) I got confused and thought these were audio tools. Kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: three files in /usr/sbin not updated by make world
Today Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, Vivek Khera wrote: > > > Three programs in /usr/sbin were not updated. This machine was > > initially installed a couple of weeks ago using the 3.3-RELEASE CD, > > and had make world done on it on December 9 as well. > > > -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 3148 Sep 16 18:48 ulaw2alaw* > > -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 3148 Sep 16 18:48 alaw2ulaw* > > Hmm, these probably either came from some software you compiled and > installed yourself (not a port) -- the most likely explanation -- or from > a port which does the wrong thing and installs under /usr/sbin. They're leftovers from the isdn4bsd upgrade from version 0.71 to 0.81 back in May. You'll find the source, and man pages, in the src/usr.sbin/i4b/alawulaw directory in the Attic. -- Jack O'NeillSystems Administrator / Systems Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: strange named behavior in 3.4-STABLE
Your problem is most likely sendmail. It will always issue a request when booting and if you have the standard "sendmail -bd -q30m" set in /etc/rc.conf it will cause dial up every 30 minutes. You could change the command to "sendmail -bd" to stop the 30 minute dialing, but it will still dial during boot. Good luck, Jim Weeks Lev Serebryakov wrote: >Whet it was 3.3-STABLE (really -- 3.3-RELEASE with stable kernel) >everything works perfectly. PPP doesn't call my ISP until I (or >somebody in local network) need connection. >But with new system (3.4-RELEASE) ``named'' initiate dial-up just >after start! Why new named want to connect when there is no any >outgoing packets? How could I disable such behavior? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: three files in /usr/sbin not updated by make world
On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, Vivek Khera wrote: > Three programs in /usr/sbin were not updated. This machine was > initially installed a couple of weeks ago using the 3.3-RELEASE CD, > and had make world done on it on December 9 as well. > -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 3148 Sep 16 18:48 ulaw2alaw* > -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 3148 Sep 16 18:48 alaw2ulaw* Hmm, these probably either came from some software you compiled and installed yourself (not a port) -- the most likely explanation -- or from a port which does the wrong thing and installs under /usr/sbin. You can check whether it's the latter by doing cd /var/db/pkg grep alaw2ulaw */+CONTENTS to see which package you have installed which contains them. If they came from a package then it's probably a bug which you should submit a problem report for (see the handbook) Kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
strange named behavior in 3.4-STABLE
Hi, All! I've upgraded from 3.3-STABLE to 3.4-STABLE and notice strange thing: I have ``named'' run on my machine, which have only dial-up Internet connection. I have ``ppp -nat -auto provider'' run too. My named have configured to be primary NS in my network (domain is not registered and IP addresses are from 192.168.xx.xx range). Also, named have ``forward-only'' option and two addresses of my ISP DNS. Whet it was 3.3-STABLE (really -- 3.3-RELEASE with stable kernel) everything works perfectly. PPP doesn't call my ISP until I (or somebody in local network) need connection. But with new system (3.4-RELEASE) ``named'' initiate dial-up just after start! Why new named want to connect when there is no any outgoing packets? How could I disable such behavior? Lev Serebryakov, 2:5030/661.0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: bugs in the handbook. (FreeBSD Portal)
well yes i agree that the linux Documentation project is along the lines of what i am talking about, but again take linux.com for example. IF we had volunteers who had knowledge of the latest web development resources/languages such as sPHP we can start a site that is based mostly on volunteers as is linux.com Awhile back, there was a discussion on this questions and this mailing list about not nearly enough newbie documentation. So i guess we are a lacking in a few areas. but, its planting the seed that counts. again, not to compete at all with freebsd.org a separate entity entirely. besides, a lot of people who would commit to -docs don't have the knowledge or patience to learn the SGML structure if the site itself. I'd like to see a site going up utilizing php/mysql for fast and convenient site development. I guess i will start by saying that I am willing to donate a considerable ammount of time to working on this project. If anyone else is interested in helping out send me an email with subject "FreeBSD Portal Volunteer" and once we reach a sufficient ammount of volunteers. ( say 5 or 6 ) well, we can get things under way. Of course i am not looking for any financial gain only contribute to the success of my OS of choice. forward this email to any web developers or knowledgable FreeBSD Users and lets plant a seed. happy holidays mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think we don't care about the > documentation, that strikes me as > something of an oversimplification. There are 2 > distinct problems here: > 1) The peole who know enough about the system to > document it properly > generally don't have the time (or > inclination...gotta love those programmers ;)) > to spend on documentation. They're too busy fixing > the problems that turn up > regularly or adding enhancements (which is where > most of the problems start ;)). > 2) The peole who are most willing to spend time on > the documentation don't have > the specific knowledge to do it. They are the one's > who would like to be > reading the docs. > Yes, I know it's inappropriate to generalize > that much, but I think you > get the idea. There is, of course, quite a lot of > good documentation out there > already, most of it accessible on-line. There is a > definite need for ongoing > improvement and upgrading, but I don't think that > surprises anyone. > There's an interesting article at > http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue4_12/bezroukov/index.html > that talks > about the problems of documentation in the Open > Software world. Actually, it > is just a really good second look at the "Cathedral > and Bazaar" with a section > on documentation. The upshot is that we cannot > accept the code as sufficient > documentation for something this complex and there > is a definite need for a > complete higher level view. > To meet that need there are several really good > resources including "The > Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating > System", and "The Complete > FreeBSD". There are,as well, several really good > on-line reources, not least > of which is the FreeBSD HowTo. I know there are > more (not including the general > Unix books) but titles escape me right now. > Add the books to the FreeBSD specific web sites > we already have, and i'm > not sure the problem is lacking docs, rather > slightly out of date docs due to an > ambitious schedule of updates and releases. > To start adding additional "Home of the Docs" > sites would, IMHO, actually > add to the confusion and difficulties. We would be > much better served by > people submitting pr's (where appropriate ;)) or > suggestions that could be > integrated into the existing docs. I'm not convinced > (having wandered aimlessly > down that road) the Linux style of documentation > (1000's of sites, no real > organization ;)) is the best bet here. > > On 23-Dec-1999 Mike s wrote: > > Well, as i can see not many people care about the > > documentation, or at least providing FreeBSD users > > ...etc... > _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
