Re: AMD K6-2 / 550

2000-07-01 Thread Greg Lehey

On Sunday,  2 July 2000 at 11:52:54 +0930, Greg Work wrote:
>>> Just a quick question - *exactly* what was the symptoms of your problem?
>>>
>>> ive just turned a K6-2 300 into a BSD box, and make world fails with
>>> SIG's 10, 11 and 12 randomly.  I know its not the memory - i have
>>> been thrashing that memory for 12 mths now - never skipped a beat.
>>
>> You mean it never discovered a problem?  What software were you
>> running?
>
> Was running win98 - and used to dual boot 3.0 --> 3.2-STABLE with 98

> It got retired to a straight win98 box (ducks objects thrown at him) when i
> got a second machine

OK, this seems to contradict your previous statements ("just turned
into a BSD box").

>>> The CPU / Motherboard / Memory used to run BSD in the 2.2.8 - 3.2
>>> days no problems.  Now - no luck :( - i get random panics, SIG 10's
>>> to 12's and core dumps - unfortunately - i have no idea how to debug
>>> them :(
>>
>> If they're hardware related, there's probably not much to see except
>> that things will be different each time.
>>
>> I suspect that a large number of crashes on Microsoft machines are in
>> fact due to flaky hardware.  Despite my low opinion of Microsoft, I
>> have not had an unexpected crash of a Microsoft system in years (it
>> helps, of course, if you don't use them much :-).
>

> the funny thing was that it never skipped a beat under M$ after a
> bios flash (it didnt like my vid card - but thats another issue :) )

After a flash, or until after a flash?  Check the BIOS settings; maybe
they're overstressing the memory.

Greg
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Re: AMD K6-2 / 550

2000-07-01 Thread Greg Lehey

On Saturday,  1 July 2000 at 21:21:56 -0500, Larry Rosenman wrote:
> (mutilated description of hardware-related problems with AMD K6-2 deleted)
> hmm
> I can't (the AMD K6-2 is back at the computer store), as
> I said, that computer now has an Intel P-III 600E in it :-).
>
> The tech's at IMS did say that AMD did admit to "some problem" with
> the K6-2's, so I'm not sure that an earlier FreeBSD will help...

There have been "some problems" with all processors.  Without any
more accurate description, this statement doesn't help.

Greg
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Re: AMD K6-2 / 550

2000-07-01 Thread Greg Lehey

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On Sunday,  2 July 2000 at 11:47:51 +0930, Greg Work wrote:
> (mutilated description of hardware-related problems with AMD K6-2 deleted)
> hmm
>
> how easy is it to install an earlier 3.x ?  (3.0-RELEASE -->
> 3.2-RELEASE) it would be interesting to see if that fixes the
> problem

I don't think that would be very interesting.  All versions of FreeBSD
run with the K6-2.

> unfortunately - i dont have any spare HD's to stick it on - or i
> would try it
>
> i tell you what - this was *REALLY* getting me bugged - i thought i had
> fried the CPU / MB somehow...

It's not that serious.  I'd guess memory problems, or probably BIOS
settings.

Greg
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Re: AMD K6-2 / 550

2000-07-01 Thread Greg Work

> > Just a quick question - *exactly* what was the symptoms of your problem?
> >
> > ive just turned a K6-2 300 into a BSD box, and make world fails with
> > SIG's 10, 11 and 12 randomly.  I know its not the memory - i have
> > been thrashing that memory for 12 mths now - never skipped a beat.
>
> You mean it never discovered a problem?  What software were you
> running?

Was running win98 - and used to dual boot 3.0 --> 3.2-STABLE with 98

It got retired to a straight win98 box (ducks objects thrown at him) when i
got a second machine

>
> > The CPU / Motherboard / Memory used to run BSD in the 2.2.8 - 3.2
> > days no problems.  Now - no luck :( - i get random panics, SIG 10's
> > to 12's and core dumps - unfortunately - i have no idea how to debug
> > them :(
>
> If they're hardware related, there's probably not much to see except
> that things will be different each time.
>
> I suspect that a large number of crashes on Microsoft machines are in
> fact due to flaky hardware.  Despite my low opinion of Microsoft, I
> have not had an unexpected crash of a Microsoft system in years (it
> helps, of course, if you don't use them much :-).

the funny thing was that it never skipped a beat under M$ after a bios flash
(it didnt like my vid card - but thats another issue :)  )

/me is intregued

G.



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