Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels)

2000-08-02 Thread Kent Stewart



Mark Ovens wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:49:12AM -0700, John Reynolds~ wrote:
> >
> > [ On Wednesday, August 2, Warner Losh wrote: ]
> > > : I am not in favour of putting *that* in UPDATING. Either suggest an
> > > : appropriate entry in /boot/loader.conf:
> > >
> > > Actually, make installkernel was fixed so that you don't need to do
> > > this.
> > >
> >
> > It was? Did I miss a "HEADS UP" somewhere along the line? I knew that this was
> > the behavior in -current and it was going to be "MFC"ed ``at some point'' but
> > when did it occur?
> >
> > Seems like this would screw people like me who edited their /boot/loader.conf
> > file unless we change it back to look for /kernel.
> >
> > Thanks for the notice ... I'll make sure to look at stuff and edit
> > /boot/loader.conf appropriately before I type "reboot" the next time :)
> >
> 
> If you add
> 
> makeoptions KERNEL=kernel   #Build kernel "foo" and install "/foo"
> 
> to your kernel config file it will install it as /kernel without this
> change; and back up your old one as /kernel.old. I would expect this
> line in the config file will be harmless (albeit redundant) when the
> change is MFC'd so you won't have to edit /boot/loader.conf.

I have to make a point here and that is I like the current
arrangement. I would much rather have installkernel make a file called
MYKERNEL than have it make all kernel's as "kernel". I think that as
we follow Stable or Current, we need to create a GENERIC that goes
along with them. When you don't have a clue, boot GENERIC. It may not
solve anything but it is a data point. I don't like having all of my
kernels called kernel because of this. I would much rather mv RUBY to
kernel than mv kernel to kernel.GENERIC or GENERIC and
re-installkernel for RUBY. I follow upgrades with my general setup and
only at significant places do I create a GENERIC. I have a shell
script that moves RUBY, for example, to kernel and I don't touch
GENERIC.

Kent

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Re: telnet connection refused from IP outside subnet

2000-08-02 Thread Tim Zingelman

> : comment out the PARANOID line in /etc/hosts.allow?
> : #ALL : PARANOID : RFC931 20 : deny
> Yes.  This PARANOID option is really quite silly since RFC 931 is
> useless outside of your own administrative domain and off dubious
> value inside it.  Best to leave it commented out.
> Warner

The RFC931 part may be silly, but the PARANOID part keeps out any ip
address that does not reverse DNS to a name.  We find that useful.

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4.1-REL bootloader failure

2000-08-02 Thread Stefan Schmidt

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hi there,
i recently tried to install an 4.1-REL (2 Floppies) on an dual i386 SCSI
HD 1/2 gig RAM over FTP and chose the expert mode or whatever it is called
again in the Installation-Menu. However everything went just fine, but
after a reboot the bootloader just couldn't find a kernel to boot. I
repeated the procedure 2 more times thereafter but the result remained the
same, is there something i should know about installing via FTP ? :-))
or perhaps something has changed on the installation disks ?

oh fun facts:
annoyed by that unexpected denial of service i chose to install OpenBSD
instead and , believe it or not, just came to the point to check its dmesg
just to realize that it doesnt support SMP yet :(( :))

yours kinda sincerely,
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Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels)

2000-08-02 Thread Mark Ovens

On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:49:12AM -0700, John Reynolds~ wrote:
> 
> [ On Wednesday, August 2, Warner Losh wrote: ]
> > : I am not in favour of putting *that* in UPDATING. Either suggest an
> > : appropriate entry in /boot/loader.conf:
> > 
> > Actually, make installkernel was fixed so that you don't need to do
> > this.
> > 
> 
> It was? Did I miss a "HEADS UP" somewhere along the line? I knew that this was
> the behavior in -current and it was going to be "MFC"ed ``at some point'' but
> when did it occur?
> 
> Seems like this would screw people like me who edited their /boot/loader.conf
> file unless we change it back to look for /kernel.
> 
> Thanks for the notice ... I'll make sure to look at stuff and edit
> /boot/loader.conf appropriately before I type "reboot" the next time :)
> 

If you add

makeoptions KERNEL=kernel   #Build kernel "foo" and install "/foo"

to your kernel config file it will install it as /kernel without this
change; and back up your old one as /kernel.old. I would expect this
line in the config file will be harmless (albeit redundant) when the
change is MFC'd so you won't have to edit /boot/loader.conf.

HTH
 
> -Jr
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Re: telnet connection refused from IP outside subnet

2000-08-02 Thread Mike Hoskins

On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, [gill] wrote:

> check ps -ax to make sure the daemon is up

They are (syslogd and sshd).

> run the daemon  /usr/local/sbin/sshd -d and watch the debug info
> run the client ssh -v for verbose

I'll try this and play around a little more tonight.

> are you running 4.0-RELEASE, 4.1-RELEASE, or -STABLE?  

Stable.

Oh, and for anyone else who wonders (already received a few helpful emails
;), yes I did HUP the daemons after making configuration changes.

Thanks.

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Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels)

2000-08-02 Thread Mark . Andrews


> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nate Williams writes:
> : > : That's wrong.  'shutdown now' takes you to single user mode.  'shutdow
> n -r now'
> : > : will make it reboot.
> : > 
> : > That's changed since the last time I did shutdown then :-).  Of
> : > course, that was 5 years ago or so...
> : 
> : It's been that way since 4.3BSD, at least.  Not sure which OS you were
> : using at the time, since it's been the same since 386BSD days. :)
> 
> SunOS (well, Solbourne's OS/MP), I think.  Of course, I might have
> always typed -h and just spaced it.

SunOS had -h.  Shutdown has behaved basically the same since
I started working w/ BSD systems in 1983 (BSD 4.2).

Mark
> 
> Warner
> 
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Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels)

2000-08-02 Thread Marcel Moolenaar

Neil Blakey-Milner wrote:
> 
> Marcel's changes mean that you the tools you use to install the world
> are ones that you can run with the old kernel.  However, once they're
> installed, you may not be able to run the new binaries with the old
> kernel.  In all, you "should" boot the kernel, and you "might" get away
> with not doing it, but "you're on your own" if you mess up.

This is correct. The change allows us to have a single 'upgrade' target
that builds the world, builds the kernel, installs the kernel, installs
the world, perform various other upgrades and finally end with a reboot
(not necessarily in this exact order, although ending with a reboot
seems kind of mandatory :-)

The advantage of the change is also that it allows installworld to be
run with -j > 1. We now simply never run what we install and thus avoid
race conditions...

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Re: ipv6

2000-08-02 Thread Gerhard Sittig

On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 17:40 -0400, Nader Turki wrote:
> 
> I just installed FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE. Well, I got this new
> thing that's called IPv6 older versions of FreeBSD never asked
> me that before. Anyway I said YES and hope that's not gonna
> casue me any trouble. 'cause i have no idea what ipv6 is.

If you're curious about it try something like "man -k ipv6".  If
you don't know what _that_ means try "man man".  And get used to
make use of the locally available info, it will serve you faster
than waiting for others to hold your hands.  (You should already
know about this when using FreeBSD for a longer time.


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Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels)

2000-08-02 Thread Warner Losh

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nate Williams writes:
: > : That's wrong.  'shutdown now' takes you to single user mode.  'shutdown -r now'
: > : will make it reboot.
: > 
: > That's changed since the last time I did shutdown then :-).  Of
: > course, that was 5 years ago or so...
: 
: It's been that way since 4.3BSD, at least.  Not sure which OS you were
: using at the time, since it's been the same since 386BSD days. :)

SunOS (well, Solbourne's OS/MP), I think.  Of course, I might have
always typed -h and just spaced it.

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Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels)

2000-08-02 Thread Warner Losh

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nate Williams writes:
: Warner, I think you are confused.  'shutdown now' takes you to single
: user mode.  'halt' will take you to the above prompt.

I was confused between shutdown now and shutdown -h now.

Warner


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Re: Irda support

2000-08-02 Thread bgoering

Hmmm, show this to your linux buddies  
http://www.rewls.nu/takeittux.jpg





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Subject:Irda support

I realize this may be slightly off-topic, but for the life of me, I
can't find any reference anywhere
(google/altavista/deja.com/freebsd.org/etc.) that would indicate that
anybody is even looking at irda support for freebsd.  Are there any
plans to support irda in the freebsd kernel in the upcoming time-frame?

Far be it from me to encourage holy wars, but it gets tiring hearing the
linux-user crowd chortling over their kernel's ability to do irda when
mine can't. 

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Re: making a RELEASE [should make buildworld made before?]

2000-08-02 Thread John Baldwin

Makoto MATSUSHITA wrote:
> 
> obrien> However, today's buildworld is more resilent having better
> obrien> build-tools, etc.. targets than when release/Makefile was
> obrien> first written.  Maybe this need could be removed.  But this
> obrien> hasn't happened yet.
> 
> If I understand the facts of src/release/Makefile correctly, 
> 
> - First 'make installworld' under /usr/src is for "creating a chroot
>   environment for further release engineering." Maybe it can be
>   supercedesed by copying existing environment or just extracting
>   'bin' distribution. But there is no tool for this.

Yes, and just doing a make installworld is the easiest way to do this.

> - Second 'make buildworld' inside a chroot environment is the actual
>   build procedure. Obviously, it cannot remove :-)
> 
> - Second 'make installworld' inside a chroot environment is for
>   "creating an environment for further _actual_ release procedures."
>   Even though we have much much better procedures for build-tools,
>   _actual_ release procedures (release.[1-9], doc.?, cdrom.?, and
>   ftp.? target in src/release/Makefile) does not consider about
>   that. If these procedures requires newer version of toolchain, it
>   should be a release-breaker.

Well, it is similar to the reason we have build-tools, etc. in the
world.  We want to make sure that we have tools that match the release
Makefile we are using.  Also, it is a good test, since we need to make
sure that the sources can do an actual installworld before we ship them
out to people. :)

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Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels)

2000-08-02 Thread Nate Williams

> : That's wrong.  'shutdown now' takes you to single user mode.  'shutdown -r now'
> : will make it reboot.
> 
> That's changed since the last time I did shutdown then :-).  Of
> course, that was 5 years ago or so...

It's been that way since 4.3BSD, at least.  Not sure which OS you were
using at the time, since it's been the same since 386BSD days. :)




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Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels)

2000-08-02 Thread Nate Williams

> : > : [1]
> : > : --> reboot   <--
> : > : 
> : [...]
> : > : This line should be "shutdown now", isn't it? Any further suggestions to
> : > : make life of Warner easier?
> : > 
> : > No.  It should be "reboot" since that's the simplest thing.  "shutdown
> : > now" doesn't cause the machine to reboot, but merely causes the
> : > processor to halt.  It is the same thing as "halt," unless you have
> : > users on the machine, in which case they will get a nice message
> : > before the machine dies
> : 
> : Um, not in my experience.  Shutdown now shuts you down to single
> : user mode without rebooting, it does *not* do a halt.
> 
> No.  shutdown now takes you all the way down to "hit any key to
> reboot"  *AND* you want to reboot.

Warner, I think you are confused.  'shutdown now' takes you to single
user mode.  'halt' will take you to the above prompt.


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Re: making a RELEASE

2000-08-02 Thread David O'Brien

On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 11:42:50AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
> > I cvsup-ed all src collections, including ports and doc (i.e. src-all,
> > doc-all and ports-all).
...
> > Wich path should I give to CVSROOT dir ?
> 
> You need to download the the cvs collections, not the "checked-out"
> collections for make release to work.

You could also set CVSROOT to the anoncvs.freebsd.org service.  This
would be slower, but save you disk space.

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Re: making a RELEASE [should make buildworld made before?]

2000-08-02 Thread Domas Mituzas

Hi,
> I cvsup-ed all src collections, including ports and doc (i.e. src-all, doc-all and 
>ports-all).
You should fetch cvs collection.

Btw, I missed to find, that "make buildworld" is mandatory before make
release (It failed in several places, if I didn't build the
world). Therefore, during make release world is recompiled at least two
times. Is it a normal operation?

With respect,
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Re: making a RELEASE

2000-08-02 Thread Chris D. Faulhaber

On Wed, 2 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I cvsup-ed all src collections, including ports and doc (i.e. src-all, doc-all and 
>ports-all).
> 
> I went to /usr/src/release and tried to "make release". It asked me to provide 
>CVSROOT variable. And oops.. I am confused ... :-) 
> 
> Wich path should I give to CVSROOT dir ?
> 
> Any documentation regarding "make release" procedure ?
> 

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Re: making a RELEASE

2000-08-02 Thread Alexandr A Listopad

On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 07:23:13AM -0400, Chris BeHanna wrote:

> SLOW DOWN!
> 
> "make release" will make the iso images (right?)

no, make release make only ftp,cd-version of install tree, no image

> 
> What he wants, I suspect, is to cd to /usr/src and follow the
> instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING.

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Re: making a RELEASE

2000-08-02 Thread Chris BeHanna

On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Dominic Mitchell wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 01:34:00PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I cvsup-ed all src collections, including ports and doc (i.e. src-all,
> > doc-all and ports-all).
> >
> > I went to /usr/src/release and tried to "make release". It asked me to
> > provide CVSROOT variable. And oops.. I am confused ... :-)
> >
> > Wich path should I give to CVSROOT dir ?
> 
> You need to download the the cvs collections, not the "checked-out"
> collections for make release to work.
> 
> > Any documentation regarding "make release" procedure ?
> 
> % less /usr/src/release/Makefile

SLOW DOWN!

"make release" will make the iso images (right?)

What he wants, I suspect, is to cd to /usr/src and follow the
instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING.

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Re: is fetch broken?

2000-08-02 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav

Matt Heckaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> *nods* It still breaks wmstock though, it never sees itself as getting the
> complete file and errors out, and keeps on trying making temporary files
> that it never knows are correct :) Thank you for the quick diagnoses
> though, it's appreciated.

Quick fix (I think):

Index: http.c
===
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libfetch/http.c,v
retrieving revision 1.34
diff -u -r1.34 http.c
--- http.c  2000/07/25 11:45:38 1.34
+++ http.c  2000/08/02 11:17:09
@@ -770,8 +770,7 @@
 struct url *url, *new;
 int chunked, need_auth, noredirect, proxy, verbose;
 int code, fd, i, n;
-off_t offset;
-size_t clength, length, size;
+off_t offset, clength, length, size;
 time_t mtime;
 char *p;
 FILE *f;

Now, the question is why gcc didn't warn me about this...

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Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels)

2000-08-02 Thread Roland Jesse

Johan Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> This has been taken care of in current but in a slightly different way.
> When using the build/installkernel targets the built / installed kernel
> is named 'kernel'
> Hence, when these changes are MFC:ed this part is not needed at all in 
> UPDATING.
> 
> I think it is better to MFC than adding this :-)

Good news. I would appreciate if that is going to be announced here
and not silently done.

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Re: making a RELEASE

2000-08-02 Thread Dominic Mitchell

On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 01:34:00PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I cvsup-ed all src collections, including ports and doc (i.e. src-all,
> doc-all and ports-all).
>
> I went to /usr/src/release and tried to "make release". It asked me to
> provide CVSROOT variable. And oops.. I am confused ... :-)
>
> Wich path should I give to CVSROOT dir ?

You need to download the the cvs collections, not the "checked-out"
collections for make release to work.

> Any documentation regarding "make release" procedure ?

% less /usr/src/release/Makefile

:-)

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making a RELEASE

2000-08-02 Thread plamendp

Hi,

I cvsup-ed all src collections, including ports and doc (i.e. src-all, doc-all and 
ports-all).

I went to /usr/src/release and tried to "make release". It asked me to provide CVSROOT 
variable. And oops.. I am confused ... :-) 

Wich path should I give to CVSROOT dir ?

Any documentation regarding "make release" procedure ?

10x.

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Re: cvs commit: ports/www/mozilla Makefile ports/www/mozilla/files md5 ports/www/mozilla/patches patch-ai ports/www/mozilla/pkg PLIST

2000-08-02 Thread Konstantinos Konstantinidis

On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 11:47:33PM -0400, Coleman Kane wrote:
> Still, this is no excuse for changing the port without asking the
> maintainer Obviously, something's amiss.

I compiled it yesterday on my 4.1-STABLE at home, and it would fail
with some really obscure messages. After a bit of looking around, I
realized some files in /usr/X11R6/lib/mozilla or thereabouts where
only readable by root - silly that, they seem to be related to the
GUI, chmod go+rx fixed it. As it is, the port should only run by root.
Not a major problem with the port then.

For those of you that built mozilla M16, DO try /usr/ports/www/galeon.

HTH,

K. Konstantinidis


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Re: sendmail 8.11.0

2000-08-02 Thread Dominic Mitchell

On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 09:16:46PM -0700, Crist J . Clark wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 02:03:57PM -0600, Chris Fedde wrote:
> > My point is that there is a perfectly good mechinism in existance to allow
> > switching between MTA.  The rc.conf mechinism works well and is consistant
> > for all other components of the system.  In this one case we add a layer of
> > indirection below rc.conf.
> > Why not simply use something like
> > 
> > mta_enable="YES"
> > mta=/usr/sbin/sendmail
> > or
> > mta_ena
> > mta=/usr/sbin/qmail
> > 
> > and the appropriate frag in /etc/rc to work with this
> > I find the whole mailwrapper thing bizarre in the extreem ;-)
> 
> But that will only affect the MTA listening for relays. It will not
> change what executable a program trying to send mail on the local
> machine will exec to send mail... Unless now everything that sends
> mail has to source rc.conf first. Yuck.

Precisely.  Like it or not, /usr/sbin/sendmail has become an interface
to sending mail and is *not* exclusive to sendmail.

-Dom (Paid up member of the Sendmail Must Die club)


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Re: Suggestion for change of /usr/src/UPDATING (was: Re: HEADS UP! Always use the 'make buildkernel' target to make yer kernels)

2000-08-02 Thread Johan Karlsson

At 02 Aug 2000 09:58:04 +0200, Roland Jesse wrote:
> Siegbert Baude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > ---Begin Suggestion---
> 
> Not bad, but:
> 
> > # Verify that the new kernel works, it will be installed as
> > # /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE
> > chflags noschg /kernel
> > chflags noschg /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE
> > mv /kernel /kernel.old
> > mv /YOUR_KERNEL_HERE /kernel
> > chflags schg /kernel 
> 
> I am not in favour of putting *that* in UPDATING. Either suggest an
> appropriate entry in /boot/loader.conf:
> 
> # Make sure that the new kernel gets booted the next time
> # you reboot by putting the following line in
> # /boot/loader.conf:
> kernel="/YOUR_KERNEL_HERE"
> 
> Or (and that's what I like more and do) in the section where one
> modifies her kernel config file:
> 
> # Make sure that the kernel gets installed as /kernel and
> # therefore gets loaded at boot time. Put a "kernel" entry
> # in your kernel config file, like this:
> makeoptions KERNEL=kernel

This has been taken care of in current but in a slightly different way.
When using the build/installkernel targets the built / installed kernel
is named 'kernel'
Hence, when these changes are MFC:ed this part is not needed at all in 
UPDATING.

I think it is better to MFC than adding this :-)

/Johan K



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Re: telnet connection refused from IP outside subnet

2000-08-02 Thread Mike Hoskins

On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Actualy, I don't have 'login failers'. I just can't
> connect! "Connection refused", not login failer! I do not get login
> prompt at all!

Correct...  However, per inetd(8), wrapped services log failed attempts
using the auth syslog facility.

> 'host' is ok in both directions (host  and host  gives the
> same name/IP). Can I assume resolving is ok ?

You did this from your server, not your home system, correct?  Just
checking, since inetd will obviouslly be using the DNS of your server to
see if a given host is allowed.  Do you have the same problem if you
comment out the PARANOID line in /etc/hosts.allow?

#ALL : PARANOID : RFC931 20 : deny

What's a traceroute look like from the disallowed connection to the
server, and from the server to your disallowed IP?

> If i could force things to be logged somehow :-) I can send my
> /etc/syslog.conf if it will be of help ?

Hmm, I understand your pain...  I just attempted to make sshd log failed
attempts and...  I must be overlooking something really simple, because
it's not working.

I looked at inetd(8) and sshd(8).

I have the following in /etc/ssh/sshd_config by default:

SyslogFacility AUTH
LogLevel INFO

So I created the following in /etc/syslog.conf (Yes, those are tabs):

auth.*  /var/log/auth.log

In sshd_config I even tried bumping LogLevel up to VERBOSE.  I touched
/var/log/auth.log and it is writeable by syslogd.

I then removed an allow rule for one of my boxes, ssh'd in, and got denied
without anything being logged to auth.log.  Sshd is standalone...  So
logging behavior relating to inetd shouldn't matter, but I noticed mention
of daemon.* being used by inetd so tried logging those too...  Still
nothing.

Hmm.

-mrh



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