Re: problems with make world (Sunday)

2000-09-05 Thread Gary Kline

On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 09:20:17AM +0200, Jean-Francois Dockes wrote:
 Gary Kline writes:
  For the record, I just cvsup'ed this morning Monday, 04sep00) and 
  buildworld hangs here:
   
   === objdump
   ...
   cc -O -pipe -D_GNU_SOURCE -I- -I. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../libbfd/i386 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../../../../contrib/binutils/include 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../libbinutils 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/objdump/../../../../contrib/binutils/binutils 
-DBFD_VERSION=\"2.10.0\"   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include  -o objdump objdump.o 
prdbg.o  ../libbinutils/libbinutils.a ../libopcodes/libopcodes.a ../libbfd/libbfd.a 
../libiberty/libiberty.a
   ../libiberty/libiberty.a(choose-temp.o): In function `make_temp_file':
   choose-temp.o(.text+0x264): undefined reference to `mkstemps'
   *** Error code 1
 
 I don't know if this applies to your case, but I had this error while
 trying a direct upgrade from 3.2-release to 4-stable. It appears that
 mkstemps() came in later than 3.2. I guess that a cvsup/buildworld to 3-stable
 would be the correct way to solve this issue, but I just ar'd the
 appropriate 4.x libc file into libiberty (cough, cough), in case it would
 save me one more cvsup and it did do it... I then remade world under
 4-stable to clean things up.

I should have grep'd my ~/Mail files earlier.  On 20 August the same
mkstemps snafu hit me.  The fix was (and is) to add mkstemps.c 
to the SRCS list in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/libiberty/Makefile.

The libiberty/Makefile still  needs patching and the patch still
needs a cvs commit.  ...Anybody??

gary

 
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cant make buildkernel

2000-09-05 Thread Gary Smith

I have been tracking stable for a while without incident but since the last 2
weeks, after a cvsup and a make buildworld, make buildkernel fails with " make:
dont know how to make /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c.  Stop "

Any ideas as to why this happens ? my last cvsup was yesterday.



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Re: affordable wireless

2000-09-05 Thread Darryl Okahata

"Sameer R. Manek" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone have any suggestions on how to have 802.11 wireless for home
 users? Naturally it should be supported by FreeBSD. Configuruation can be
 done on any pc os though.
 
 My only affordable solution so far is to use the Apple AirPort base station,
 and wavelan pcmcia cards, but I don't know if they can co-exist, and the
 AirPort needs a Macintosh to configure. My idea of affordable for this is
 less then $500, the lucent wavelan solution works out to about $900 startup,
 that's a little out of my budget.

 Just to let everyone know: I should be getting a TechWorks
(Buffalo) AirStation in the next couple of days, and I'll be adding it
to my FreeBSD Wireless documentation.  A co-worker got one, and we
played with it briefly; it doesn't look too bad.  It's an actual base
station (does not work in ad-hoc mode).  I don't know if it supports
NAT/DHCP though, although bridging appears to work fine.  Other
comments:

* Configuration is done via a web browser (bleah).

* Only supports 40-bit encryption.  Don't know if it's like the AirPort
  when it comes to the 128-bit encryption upgrade, though.

* Keys can be entered as hex (yes!).

* The $279 model doesn't have a modem.  With a modem, it's $299 (the
  same as the AirPort).

* It works fine with my Lucent Orinoco (WaveLan) gold card (we didn't
  try enabling encryption, though).

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Cvsup mirrors

2000-09-05 Thread Krzysztof Parzyszek

Hi,

I have recently noticed that cvsup*.freebsd.org can happen to have
different contents. In particular I cvsupped all from (AFAIR) cvsup3 and
it deleted rsa_eay.c. Repeated (in about 5 minutes) cvsup from cvsup5
checked the file out again.

Which cvsup server is the most accurate?
Anyway, rsa_eay.c is a part of librsaINTL.a. How is it possible
that it wasn't in the repository?


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Re: affordable wireless

2000-09-05 Thread Darryl Okahata

"Kevin Oberman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Even at 128 bits, WEP encryption is, at best, rather weak. The right
 answer is to use strong encryption for everything.
 
 OpenSSH is now a standard part of FreeBSD. Use it and stop sending
 clear passwords over the net. Then you don't care about the security
 of the link, only the end nodes.

 Very true.  If people want to know why, see:

http://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-net/2000/02/04/0001.html

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Re: 4.1 STABLE broken since today!

2000-09-05 Thread Bernhard Valenti

 It was indeed fixed. Nobody posted a HEADS UP.
i know thats it has been fixed... i was wondering why there wasnt a HEADS UP when the 
problem was discovered.

sometimes its not clear wether there is a problem or not... 
i mean there are almost daily mails that buildworld or whatever is broken, and most of 
the time its just the admin doing something wrong. 
there should be a official statement when something major is really broken, even if it 
has been fixed there should be a offical "fixed" notify mail.

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Re: affordable wireless

2000-09-05 Thread Vivek Khera

 "KO" == Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

KO OpenSSH is now a standard part of FreeBSD. Use it and stop sending
KO clear passwords over the net. Then you don't care about the security
KO of the link, only the end nodes.

But without encryption, anyone can talk to your base station.


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Re: Stop error in make world

2000-09-05 Thread John Reynolds~


[ On Tuesday, September 5, Bill Moran wrote: ]
 Just cvsupped yesterday, I've tried to `make buildworld' 3 times. The
 only time I didn't seem to get a stop error is when I did `make -k
 buildworld' However, immediately after doing that I did a `make
 buildworld' and got this error again.
 
 I know this system has problems ... Any hints as to where I need to
 focus to get them fixed?
 If I did the `make -k buildworld' and then `make installworld', could
 that possibly set the stage for a successful `make buildworld' ???
 
 Egad!
 
 (For those of you who aren't familiar with this thread ... this is a
 production machine and I comitted a cardinal sin by not being careful
 enough during a cvs upgrade ... I'm on the verge of being in deep sh*t!)

Well, I just cvsup'ed 1 hour ago and built world. No problems. That segfault
you got when building perl looks really odd. Other people have said that
segfaults during buildworld are generally hardware problems. Most likely
memory.

Any chance of you swapping out the memory in the machine?

Anyway, just reporting "no errors" here with a fresh tree.

-Jr

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Re: affordable wireless

2000-09-05 Thread Brad Knowles

At 9:11 AM -0700 2000/9/5, Kevin Oberman wrote:

  Even at 128 bits, WEP encryption is, at best, rather weak. The right
  answer is to use strong encryption for everything.

If I'm not mistaken, this is actually using Triple DES at 128 
bits, so this is still decently strong.  The problem is that the 
normal WEP key is only 40 bits long, which we know can be cracked in 
a matter of only a few seconds.

  OpenSSH is now a standard part of FreeBSD. Use it and stop sending
  clear passwords over the net. Then you don't care about the security
  of the link, only the end nodes.

OpenSSH is good, and I certainly use it (and other ssh products) 
where possible.  However, it is not a panacea, it cannot be used 
everywhere, and if you can enable additional encryption at the link 
level, then you should certainly do that.

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Re: cant make buildkernel

2000-09-05 Thread Andresen,Jason R.

Gary Smith wrote:
 
 I have been tracking stable for a while without incident but since the last 2
 weeks, after a cvsup and a make buildworld, make buildkernel fails with " make:
 dont know how to make /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c.  Stop "
 
 Any ideas as to why this happens ? my last cvsup was yesterday.
 

The softupdates code was merged with current (the licence issues were
resolved I guess), so when you cvsupped the system copied the updated
ffs_softdep.c on your existing symlink, then deleted the target the
symlink pointed to, leaving you with a dangling symlink.  

Delete those symlinks (ffs_softdep.c and softdep.h IIRC) and try
cvsupping again. 

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Re: Stop error in make world

2000-09-05 Thread Bill Moran

John Reynolds~ wrote:

 Well, I just cvsup'ed 1 hour ago and built world. No problems. That segfault
 you got when building perl looks really odd. Other people have said that
 segfaults during buildworld are generally hardware problems. Most likely
 memory.

I'd be surprised ... considering I did a successful `make world' about a
month ago with no problems, and I've done many compilations (Apache,
MySQL, php, ssh) on this machine with no problems prior to this. Still,
it's a possibility, things do wear out/break/etc.

 Any chance of you swapping out the memory in the machine?

That's pretty much a last resort ... my goal is to fix this without
having to drive 3.5 hours to the location where it exists. If nothing
else works, I'll do that.

 Anyway, just reporting "no errors" here with a fresh tree.

Well, that's good news, it means I've botched something. I think the
mistake is that I accidentally got a 3.X-STABLE tree over top the 4.X
tree and the version of perl from 3.X (whatever version that is) isn't
up to doing some of the chores that are required for a 4.X make world.
My plan of attack at this point is:
make -k buildworld
make installworld
make buildworld

If at that point I have no errors, I'm home free to rebuild a current
kernel and make installworld again.

If I'm still having trouble. I'm going to try cvsdowning to 4.0-STABLE
(which is what the machine was before this all started) and see if I can
get it working.
If that doesn't work and I can still get ssh access to the machine, I'll
get really desperate and try getting a 3.5.1 machine on here.
If that doesn't work, I'm driving 3.5 hours to do a clean installation
(please no)

If anyone has any better attack plans, I'm interested to hear them.

Thanks for all the help so far.

-Bill

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Re: Stop error in make world

2000-09-05 Thread Vivek Khera

 "BM" == Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

BM I'd be surprised ... considering I did a successful `make world' about a
BM month ago with no problems, and I've done many compilations (Apache,
BM MySQL, php, ssh) on this machine with no problems prior to this. Still,
BM it's a possibility, things do wear out/break/etc.

I had a machine with a CPU fan that stopped spinning.  When doing a
buildworld with anything else cpu-intensive running, it would do all
sorts of flaky things, including segfaults.

If the only thing running was buildworld, it would succeed.  If I add
in a cpu-intensive program, like the distributed.net client program,
it would consistently fail at random points.

I just put in a new fan and am testing out a buildworld with other
things running as well.

But this is most likely a hardware issue you're observing.

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Re: affordable wireless

2000-09-05 Thread Kevin Oberman

Brad,

We can agree that the 40 bit stuff is not worth the trouble. My 128
bit Lucent card says "128-bit RC-4 encryption". Last I heard, RC-4 was
not considered a "safe" algorithm.

Also, in any multi-user environment, the secret must be too public. (I
believe that when I know something, it's secure. When I tell someone,
it's secret. When someone else is told, it's public.)

Using an encrypted link is fine, but I worry that people will believe
far too much in its security. (Especially when they see "128-bit".)

If I'm wrong and it is 3DES, never mind! But still use ssh whenever
possible. 

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Re: cant make buildkernel

2000-09-05 Thread Gary Smith

Thanks, I think that should work

On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, Andresen,Jason R. wrote:
 Gary Smith wrote:
  
  I have been tracking stable for a while without incident but since the last 2
  weeks, after a cvsup and a make buildworld, make buildkernel fails with " make:
  dont know how to make /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c.  Stop "
  
  Any ideas as to why this happens ? my last cvsup was yesterday.
  
 
 The softupdates code was merged with current (the licence issues were
 resolved I guess), so when you cvsupped the system copied the updated
 ffs_softdep.c on your existing symlink, then deleted the target the
 symlink pointed to, leaving you with a dangling symlink.  
 
 Delete those symlinks (ffs_softdep.c and softdep.h IIRC) and try
 cvsupping again. 
 
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Re: Stop error in make world

2000-09-05 Thread Kent Stewart



Bill Moran wrote:
 
 John Reynolds~ wrote:
 
  Well, I just cvsup'ed 1 hour ago and built world. No problems. That segfault
  you got when building perl looks really odd. Other people have said that
  segfaults during buildworld are generally hardware problems. Most likely
  memory.
 
 I'd be surprised ... considering I did a successful `make world' about a
 month ago with no problems, and I've done many compilations (Apache,
 MySQL, php, ssh) on this machine with no problems prior to this. Still,
 it's a possibility, things do wear out/break/etc.
 
  Any chance of you swapping out the memory in the machine?
 
 That's pretty much a last resort ... my goal is to fix this without
 having to drive 3.5 hours to the location where it exists. If nothing
 else works, I'll do that.
 
  Anyway, just reporting "no errors" here with a fresh tree.
 
 Well, that's good news, it means I've botched something. I think the
 mistake is that I accidentally got a 3.X-STABLE tree over top the 4.X
 tree and the version of perl from 3.X (whatever version that is) isn't
 up to doing some of the chores that are required for a 4.X make world.
 My plan of attack at this point is:
 make -k buildworld
 make installworld
 make buildworld

I think if you really loaded a 3.5 tree on top, you will need to
follow the cvsup upgrade path for 3.5 to 4.1 in /usr/src/UPDATING. 

You could also upgrade the binaries to 4.1-R and then rebuild userland
and the kernel. There were such massive changes to /etc and all of the
/binutils. I thought my "i" key was going to wear out running
mergemaster :).

Kent

 
 If at that point I have no errors, I'm home free to rebuild a current
 kernel and make installworld again.
 
 If I'm still having trouble. I'm going to try cvsdowning to 4.0-STABLE
 (which is what the machine was before this all started) and see if I can
 get it working.
 If that doesn't work and I can still get ssh access to the machine, I'll
 get really desperate and try getting a 3.5.1 machine on here.
 If that doesn't work, I'm driving 3.5 hours to do a clean installation
 (please no)
 
 If anyone has any better attack plans, I'm interested to hear them.
 
 Thanks for all the help so far.
 

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