Re: agp_if.c
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 01:02:12PM +0400, kostik wrote: i see, gcc is gpl'ed too, but you use it regardless of license type. why don't use gmake? (with gcc). Because there is a perfectly adequate BSD-licensed alternative. Kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: Correct sequence for keeping a 4.1 system stable.
Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scott Dodson writes: : Hmm, I don't know why. Those problems were going from 4.0 - 4.1.1 and : going from 4.1 - 4.1.1 on another machine. If it happened on just one : machine i wouldn't rase a question. But his is happening on both, however : of course I'm the one that's done both the machines. But i don't think : i've screwd anything else up. OK. I'll setup a system and give it a try. I thought that I had no problems when I had done it. But maybe there's some autopilot effects going on here. I am following a 4.0-release system that is being upgraded to 4.1.1 stable. It is a training exercise and I'm doing a tail -f and following the upgrade output, which is being redirected to a text file, remotely. The only upgrade problems I've seen lately are those occasional strange ones with perl, i.e., the chmod of libdbsm.a. The upgrade I'm following won't be finished until they get off from work tonight at the earliest. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: staroffice on 4.1-S
Peter Radcliffe wrote: Trent Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] probably said: Type 'make install-user' in the StarOffice 5.2 ports directory while logged in as a "normal user". Already have done. To repeat, when I 'su -m' to keep my enviroment it works fine, using the per user install in my home directory. Using the same files as a normal user does not work (and yes, I've chown/chmodded them). Linux emulation works fine in general, I use linux netscape for the plugins. I just changed the #!-line to read #!/usr/local/bin/bash instead of #!/bin/sh in Suns installuser script. They assume bash is installed as /bin/sh. After changing the shell line, everything works as expected. HTH -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: ipf rc.firewall patch ?
On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 08:51:29PM -0700, matthew zeier wrote: I tried to apply http://www.swcp.com/~synk/ipfmerge.patch on 4.1.1 release. # cd /etc # patch /tmp/ipfmerge.patch But got a lot of failed hunks. I don't know anything about patch - is my syntax correct? Sorry but we don't know anything about that patch either. However, Darren Reed recently committed rc* changes to -current to support ipfilter. Hopefully they will be backported to -stable shortly. See http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=20202 for the patches (which should apply cleanly to -stable). -- Chris D. Faulhaber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: staroffice on 4.1-S
On Mon, 09 Oct 2000, Christoph Sold wrote: Peter Radcliffe wrote: Trent Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] probably said: Type 'make install-user' in the StarOffice 5.2 ports directory while logged in as a "normal user". Already have done. To repeat, when I 'su -m' to keep my enviroment it works fine, using the per user install in my home directory. Using the same files as a normal user does not work (and yes, I've chown/chmodded them). Linux emulation works fine in general, I use linux netscape for the plugins. I just changed the #!-line to read #!/usr/local/bin/bash instead of #!/bin/sh in Suns installuser script. They assume bash is installed as /bin/sh. After changing the shell line, everything works as expected. HTH -Christoph Sold If you use the port to install staroffice52, the setup and soffice scripts are already modified to use /compat/linux/bin/sh, which is sym-linked to /compat/linux/bin/bash. And staroffice fails to run properly for me whether I'm logged in as root or user. It runs well on Linux. Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: username with -
Doug Barton wrote: I think a better question is, why does rmuser need to check the validity of the username at all? Should it do wildcarding? If not, it needs to check for invalid chars that could be used to wildcard. On the flipside, wildcarding might be nice. -Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: make buildworld failing
"a" == andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: People already having root privs are not stopped by it. Or is it only aimed at the higher securelevels? a I assume its for secure levels 1 and above and if you were a security a conscious site I imagine it would be a very useful feature. My question is why does /usr/obj need the schg flag set on anything in the first place? It basically means that on a secure system you have to reboot to single user just to delete the build tree. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG MIME spoken herehttp://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: staroffice on 4.1-S
"PR" == Peter Radcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PR Before I spend even more time on it, anyone seen this problem and got PR a fix ? The only way I got SO 5.2 running on a 4.1 system was to install from the CD-ROM that Sun was giving out at the Perl conference in July. It seems to work ok. I did a /net install into "/opt", and then set up my self using the setup program. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D.Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG MIME spoken herehttp://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: problem w/ new pcm feeder + emu10k1 in 4.1.1-stable
I wonder if this has anything to do with why my Soundwave 128 PCI is not recognized. It shows up as an "unknown card" during boot: Script started on Sun Oct 8 06:12:35 2000 % dmesg | grep unknown pci0: unknown card (vendor=0x1073, dev=0x000d) at 9.0 irq 11 % exit this is a ymf724f which is supported. is pcm compiled into your kernel? -cg To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: curious interaction between kdm and snmpd on startup
"DW" == Doug White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DW This is what happens when the getty on console and xdm start up DW simultaneously. The keyboard goes into limbo-mode. That explains it... wow. What a fun timing issue. Curious how adding snmpd to startup triggers it every time! DW The solution is to get xdm to wait 5-10 seconds for the getty to launch DW before starting itself. This can be done with some nifty shell Yes; this is what I'm doing now: (sleep 30; kdm) but I think I can cut the sleep time a bit ;-) Thanks for the tip and confirmation. Perhaps I can just start kdm from init (/etc/ttys) and it will work out the timing itself ... I'll try that later. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: make buildworld failing
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 10:21:49AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: "a" == andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: People already having root privs are not stopped by it. Or is it only aimed at the higher securelevels? a I assume its for secure levels 1 and above and if you were a security a conscious site I imagine it would be a very useful feature. My question is why does /usr/obj need the schg flag set on anything in the first place? It basically means that on a secure system you have to reboot to single user just to delete the build tree. It doesn't (as of 4.x). Previous branches did set the schg flag, however 4.x and 5.x no longer do this. -- Chris D. Faulhaber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: username with -
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Bill Moran wrote: Doug Barton wrote: I think a better question is, why does rmuser need to check the validity of the username at all? Indeed. Should it do wildcarding? If not, it needs to check for invalid chars that could be used to wildcard. On the flipside, wildcarding might be nice. # rmuser -y * Eek .. Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: ipf vs. ipfw ?
matthew zeier writes: Can anyone tell me the differences between ipf and ipfw ? Which is "better" ? I've used both ipfilter and ipfw and found them both to be usable. I'm currently using ipfilter on both FreeBSD and Solaris 2.6. Ipfilter rule groups are a good idea but could be better. I don't remember if ipfw has something similar. The NAT facility (ipnat) of ipfilter is practically undocumented for all but the most common configurations. As far as I can tell, some of the features (e.g. some in-kernel proxies) actually are undocumented. If you just want to do something simple, such as map a home network behind a gateway to your ISP, you can copy one of the trivial examples. I've never used ipfw's NAT facility (natd) and don't know anything about its rules. For heavy NAT traffic, I prefer ipnat because it's in-kernel whereas natd is a user-space daemon. Most any modest unix box can route IP practically in its sleep. Ipnat adds an insignificant additional load since it just twiddles a few bits in the packet as it goes by on the stack. If I understand natd's implementation correctly, it pushes each packet out through a pseudo device where it is read, and then rewritten, by natd. That requires 2 context switches per packet, not to mention the copying and recopying of the packet data. Similarly, ipfilter does its filtering in the kernel. I don't remember if ipfw does its filtering in the kernel or if it uses a user-space daemon like it does for NAT. I'd like to hear other opinions on this subject. Don -- Don Krapf To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: ipf vs. ipfw ?
I have used ipfw because when I started ipfilter was only in the ports. I have tried several times to use ipfilter but have been unable to figure out how. The rules for ipfw are fairly simple and are processed in order. It is easy for me to understand, write and debug them, bit plus. I have not been able to wrap my mind around ipfilter's rules. I have spent about an hour total and just don't get it completely. Some of the documentation was sparse last time I checked. From looking it seems it might be more powerful, but recently ipfw added stateful rules. These are just my observations and experiences. Jim -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power to Serve [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.TheHousleys.net - Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: Anyone using adaptec 29160
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Moran writes: : Anyone using an Adaptec 29160 SCSI controller? ( It's pretty new and I : know it's not technically supported, but I was wondering if anyone had : tried it and got it working? For example, does it emulate another : Adaptec adapter? Will another adaptec driver work with it? Timeline : forces me to be sure before I purchase. : Any feedback is greatly appreciated (works, doesn't work, etc) I'm using the 19160, the younger brother of the 29160. It works great! I'm glad Warner is having better luck. I don't know which variant of the 29160 you are looking at Bill, but I still don't have my two controllers working. I have a motherboard (Supermicro 370DL3) with an onboard 29160 (Adaptec AIC7892) plus an additional 64-bit PCI 29160 sitting in it. When installating 4.1-RELEASE these controllers will hang at random points during installation. When installing 4.1.1-RELEASE they panic on boot during the probe. When installing recent -current snaps on the machine the same thing also happens. The only revision of the driver that seems to install and boot fine on this combination is src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.c,v1.47. I have not had time to collect additional information on the panic's as I'm just finishing up a theatre production which has taken much of my time. Hopefully at some point I can sit down with a serial console and a debug kernel and get Justin the specifics he needs to fix it. Be forewarned. I hate to tell you this, and hope if you do buy one you'll have better luck. I don't know what else to tell you to buy, since these are in my opinion the best SCSI controllers on the market right now. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: ahc driver problem
At 12:10 AM 10/10/00 +0100, Brian Somers wrote: I can report the same failure. My config dmesg is attached to this message. The ahc driver put on the 4.1 Release CD works and the system boots and operates with no problems detected. This problem occurs when the machine is booted from the new GENERIC kernel built from sources cvsup'd Saturday Oct. 7. Therefore some change committed between these two dates broke the driver. I have not tried building current. Is this problem also present in current or only stable? It's in -current too. Reverting /sys/dev/aic7xxx to 2920 makes life easier. Fetched -stable at 20:25 GMT on the 7th and was rewarded with a panic and solid wedge when trying to get a core dump (SCSI activity lights solid, no response from cap/num/scroll lock). Also the dump would have been to an IDE drive. Re-fetched and upgrade around 8:40 GMT on the 9th. However, do not have v1.3.2.8 of aic7xxx_freebsd.c that Justin committed today, which may not be related to the recent -stable problems. So far so good. Jeff Mountin - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: Bad IDE Drive
Gary Kline writes: On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 04:40:13PM -0400, Robert wrote: Hello, I used to own a Compaq Proliant 800/850 (one of them) with an internal RAID 5 array with about 4 8gb Seagate Baracude(SCSI UW). I had two of the drives fail on me after about 4 years, due to heat and just the fact that we plain ran them into the ground. I have a feeling that these new IDE drives, much like some old SCSI drives, have problems with inadequate ventilation. Most of these new 7200 rpm drives (IDE) run VERY hot and most people do not provide proper cooling for their computers. I recommend to anyone who wants to extend the life of their ide drives to purchase the "drive cooler" product from Antec. Not only do they cool the drives down they have a protective dust shield where the fans are so you dont contribute to dirtying the components. Can you explain more about these drive-coolers? URL's or whatever would help. Don't sweat the drive cooler stuff just yet. Go to Radio Shack, Walmart, K-Mart, etc, and purchase an indoor/outdoor digital thermometer, preferably one with a max/min function. $15 to $25. Mount the outdoor probe on your HD. Then decide for yourself if the HD is too hot. I have lots of fans, an extra blowing out, an extra blowing on the HD. And the result is my FH 3.5" IBM SCSI 9G HD is running 15 degrees F over room temperature. Currenlty its 94F on the HD. Without digging up manufacturer's specs about 115F to 120F is where I'd start getting really worried. -- David Kelly N4HHE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] = The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: effective use of serial console
Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm wondering if there's a possibility to use USB console as this would be even better for this case because you could build some kind of network using USB hubs where the PCs don't need to rely on their twins for serial console access. If you got one up, you can access all of them... And after all, USB ports are more common today than serial ones ;-) At our lab we have a nifty homebrew program called rconsole for this. The rconsole server has a bunch of machines' serial consoles attached to it, and exports them through rconsoled, which accepts kerberos4-authenticated connections from clients and ships the requested serial console over a DES-encrypted connection. It allows for read-only access, multiple readers observing one writer, and a SIMD mode for sending keystrokes to multiple machines. There's also a delayed-return feature in the SIMD mode that sends return keystrokes to all of the consoles with a few seconds of spacing between them[1]. I keep meaning to clean it up, maybe update the krb4/DES stuff to SASL or SSL, and release it on sourceforge. --nat [1] This was originally added to keep rconsole from making the department's kerberos server think somebody was trying to predict its random number generator every time someone ran 'kinit' across a bunch of machines in parallel. -- nat lanza - research programmer, parallel data lab, cmu scs [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~magus/ there are no whole truths; all truths are half-truths -- alfred north whitehead To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
