Re: Apache/PHP ports

2000-10-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  And why not symlink apache_php34 to mod_php???

 The ports system doesn't use symlinks.

So why don't delete the old one?

  Anyway you time-response is amazing. =)

 I'm a species of the "American night owl".

I'm italian and here is 10:30 AM, anyway thanks again =)

Paolo



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Re: Apache/PHP ports

2000-10-13 Thread Bill Fumerola

On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 10:33:22AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  The ports system doesn't use symlinks.
 
 So why don't delete the old one? 

The files are gone, the directory structure probably remains because of
a README.html file or extra stuff left over. I use cvs and not cvsup so
I'm not really familiar with what cvsup does with dead directories.

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Re: mbuf leakage on 4.1.1-STABLE

2000-10-13 Thread Antony T Curtis

"Kuriyama, Kent K Mr (CPF N651KK)" wrote:
 
 Chris,
 
 Your email prompted me to look at mbuf utilization on a 4.1.1-STABLE box
 that is currently not in production.
 
 outside# netstat -m
 130/160/7168 mbufs in use (current/peak/max):
 129 mbufs allocated to data
 1 mbufs allocated to packet headers
 128/136/1792 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max)
 312 Kbytes allocated to network (92% in use)
  ^^
 0 requests for memory denied
 0 requests for memory delayed
 0 calls to protocol drain routines
 outside# uptime
  4:32AM  up 1 day, 14:01, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
 
 I don't know whether to be concerned about the 92% utilization since the
 number of bytes allocated seems low.  The machine has never crashed but then
 it has never served as a server.
 
 Is this kind of mbuf utilization expected?
 
 Kent Kuriyama
 SPAWAR Sys Ctr San Diego D424, CINCPACFLT N671KK
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], 808-471-4125

Mine looks like the following:

A box with heavy traffic : FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE
Average traffic exceeds 4GB per day.

# netstat -m
867/1120 mbufs in use:
800 mbufs allocated to data
67 mbufs allocated to packet headers
463/656/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max)
1452 Kbytes allocated to network (71% in use)
0 requests for memory denied
0 requests for memory delayed
0 calls to protocol drain routines
# uptime
 9:28AM  up 206 days, 19:30, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00



And a box with very light traffic : FreeBSD 4.1-2828-STABLE
Average traffic less than 20MB per day.

$ netstat -m
207/448/4096 mbufs in use (current/peak/max):
157 mbufs allocated to data
50 mbufs allocated to packet headers
117/254/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max)
620 Kbytes allocated to network (46% in use)
0 requests for memory denied
0 requests for memory delayed
0 calls to protocol drain routines
$ uptime
 9:21AM  up 17 days, 17:09, 4 users, load averages: 2.02, 0.97, 0.50


The worrying thing is that the box with light traffic has had to be
rebooted because it stopped talking on the network. This happens
expecially quickly if I am using NFS a lot.


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Re: Sendmail 8.11/TLS

2000-10-13 Thread Brad Knowles

At 4:05 PM -0700 2000/10/12, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote:

  _FFR_'s are not documented.  FFR stands for for-future-release.

Understood.

  Yes, BSD systems can use STARTTLS without sfio.

Cool.  I was not aware that sendmail was capable of using 
multiple different stdio libraries and still able to support STARTTLS 
on top of that.

  8.12 will not require sfio, nor a BSD stdio library.

Excellent!  This is wonderful news!  Now, I don't suppose you can 
give us any hints of a projected shipping date, can you?  ;-)

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Re: mbuf leakage on 4.1.1-STABLE

2000-10-13 Thread David Greenman

"Kuriyama, Kent K Mr (CPF N651KK)" wrote:
 
 Chris,
 
 Your email prompted me to look at mbuf utilization on a 4.1.1-STABLE box
 that is currently not in production.
 
 outside# netstat -m
 130/160/7168 mbufs in use (current/peak/max):
 129 mbufs allocated to data
 1 mbufs allocated to packet headers
 128/136/1792 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max)
 312 Kbytes allocated to network (92% in use)
  ^^

   Perhaps I should have spoken up earlier, but none of these reports has
indicated a problem. The "92%" above is the percent of buffers that have been
allocated and are currently in-use. The system allocates more when the pool
runs out. The % in use is essentially a useless number that shouldn't even
be reported because it just causes confusion about what it means.

-DG

David Greenman
Co-founder, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org
President, TeraSolutions, Inc. - http://www.terasolutions.com
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Re: mbuf leakage on 4.1.1-STABLE

2000-10-13 Thread Matt Heckaman

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On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, David Greenman wrote:
...
:Perhaps I should have spoken up earlier, but none of these reports has
: indicated a problem. The "92%" above is the percent of buffers that have been
: allocated and are currently in-use. The system allocates more when the pool
: runs out. The % in use is essentially a useless number that shouldn't even
: be reported because it just causes confusion about what it means.

Sounds like a chance for a FAQ entry? I know I got caught by that
originally till I sat down and thought about it for a while, might
be nice to have. :)

: -DG

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Re: xl driver again? Re: mbuf leakage on 4.1.1-STABLE

2000-10-13 Thread Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Paul 
writes:
 The xl driver never holds more than 128 mbuf clusters in the receive ring.
 Whenever a new packet comes in, it sends one of the mbufs out and replaces
 it with a new one. IT DOESN'T HOLD ONTO THEM. It will however complain if
 it can't allocate a replacement mbuf. What it will do is allocate them very
 fast, and sometimes mbufs do get held inside the kernel for too long a
 time. It seems to be worse in cases where you have a lot of UDP traffic
 or a large number of open TCP connections. My only suggestion for now
 is to add more mbufs by bumping NMBCLUSTERS.

Is there a reason why the kernel might hold on to mbufs for "too long a 
time" (I take that to mean longer than it should)?


Regards,   Phone:  (250)387-8437
Cy Schubert  Fax:  (250)387-5766
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boot problems

2000-10-13 Thread mike . perik

I just installed 4.1.1-RELEASE on a dual 100mhz ALR Evolution that has a
LinkSys 100 nic, Diamond Stealth 64 4mb vision 964, ISA Vibra16
Soundblaster(non-pnp), DPT PM2022A scsi controller which has 2 2G seagate
barracuda, 1 Quantum Fireball (1.2 G), 1 DEC (1 G) and a NEC 3x CDROM drive
on it.

I was able to get the system installed but on boot it panics with this:

panic: resource_list_alloc: resource entry is busy

I set boot_verbose=1 and the line preceding the panic is

ata-: ata2 exists, using next available unit number.


I also get a this:

atapci0 Busmastering DMA not supported

I was having the same problem when I used the kern/boot floppies created
from the 4.1.1 CD.  I used the floppies created off of a 4.1 CD and I was
able to boot fine. I set the release tag to 4.1.1-RELEASE and the install
went great, although both php-3 and php-4 packages failed. 

When it came to configuring the kernel for the install I deleted all network
cards, and the pc-card under misc because of conflicts.
Where can I get more info on this step of the install?

Where can I get some better diagnostics.  In verbose mode everything scrolls
off the screen to fast to see what else is going on.

I am suspicious of my NEC CD drive being a little flaky but I'm not sure if
that would effect bootup.

Any ideas?  

Thanks,
Mike




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RE: boot problems

2000-10-13 Thread mike . perik

Yes they are disabled.

Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: Alan Edmonds [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 7:19 AM
 To:   Perik, Mike
 Subject:  Re: boot problems
 
 Did you disable the IDE controllers in the BIOS?
 The ata driver is the IDE controller driver.  
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 Digital:Convergence
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Re: Minor problem with new ports setup

2000-10-13 Thread Andrew Tulloch

I noticed a while ago that only the ports that were installed at
originall install time actually have a README.html and news ones that
appear during cvsup don't. This seems to inidcate that the .html
files are not part of the cvs ports tree. Anyone else noticed this or know
why?

Andrew

On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Scott Dodson wrote:

 The new ports config has a problem with all the README.html files.  They all point 
to pkg/DESCR for a description, but the new location is pkg-DESCR.  I didn't know the 
correct place to address this, so I posted it here, where should I have posted this?
 
 -scott
 
 
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Re: Minor problem with new ports setup

2000-10-13 Thread Chris Faulhaber

On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 02:04:45PM +0100, Andrew Tulloch wrote:
 I noticed a while ago that only the ports that were installed at
 originall install time actually have a README.html and news ones that
 appear during cvsup don't. This seems to inidcate that the .html
 files are not part of the cvs ports tree. Anyone else noticed this or know
 why?
 

The README.html files are not part of the cvs tree.  They are
created/installed when:
1) you install the ports collection during installation
2) you type 'make readmes' in /usr/ports
3) you type 'make readme' in a port's subdirectory

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Re: Fatal Tarp in 4.1.1

2000-10-13 Thread kris

On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 09:13:43AM -0800, Jason Neumann wrote:
 Greetings,
 A few days ago I received a 'Fatal Trap 12' followed by a spontaneous
 reboot on 4.1.1-stable. My  installed src was up to date as of Sept. 29,
 2000.

A common cause of this is loading modules which are out of date with respect
to the kernel you are running, e.g. the linux module which is loaded at boot.

Kris


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Re: Minor problem with new ports setup

2000-10-13 Thread Chris BeHanna

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Andrew Tulloch wrote:

 I noticed a while ago that only the ports that were installed at
 originall install time actually have a README.html and news ones that
 appear during cvsup don't. This seems to inidcate that the .html
 files are not part of the cvs ports tree. Anyone else noticed this or know
 why?

The ports tree has changed significantly.  Go to /usr/ports and
type "make readmes" and they'll all be generated (it will take
awhile).

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Re: Bad IDE Drive

2000-10-13 Thread Brian Behlendorf

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote:
 IMO, WD went to pot years back their choice on concentrating on the low end 
 market doesn't help.  Seagate's IDE drives seem to have been among the 
 slowest around.  Years back started having better results with Maxtor and 
 then IBM came in with the best performance and price for *both* SCSI and 
 IDE.  Many have talked about their good experiences with the former, but 
 can't say I recall much on the latter.

I've had two recent IBM drives (both U2W 36G, out of four recently
purchased) fail on me recently within weeks of purchase.  I would hesitate
to recommend them again, which is unfortunate because they used to be
completely trustable.

Brian





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