Re: 4.2-stable, ports/packages in XF86 4.0.2
David W. Chapman Jr.: >The problem is netscape itself, since it comes in binary format, anyone who >ports it doesn't have a choice into which format, I believe the bsdi version >of netscape is elf, but I'm not totally sure. It is, and the BSDI binary runs just smoothly on FreeBSD. The only issue is that the latest version is not 4.76 but 4.75. I am not sure whether this is because the BSDI version was not suffering the bug that made Netscape to release 4.76, or whether they just dropped BSDI support. Helge To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: MFC? src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC and sound support
> Donn Miller wrote: > While this is true, the GENERIC kernel is supposed to support as much > hardware "out of the box" as possible, so a user can install and not > have to worry about setting up devices... So a user can *install* and not have to worry about setting up devices. You don't need a soundcard to do an install. Once you've done the installation you can build a kernel which supports your soundcard. If it's causing problems on installs maybe it should be disabled by default, even if it is built into the kernel. --Ben To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
01-01-2001
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Re: MFC? src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC and sound support
On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 12:04:17AM -0500, Donn Miller scribbled: | "Michael C . Wu" wrote: | FreeBSD is most often used as a server, not a desktop. Why exactly is | sound needed for a first install? If nothing else, PCM could be loaded | via a kernel module. Optional stuff usually should not be statically | linked into the kernel, but should be placed in KLD's. No one rebutted against your point. I am certain that I did not. All I pointed out was that this is a quite non-crucial discussion. Bikeshed. -- +--+ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://peorth.iteration.net/~keichii | Yes, BSD is a conspiracy. | +--+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: Boot ManagerQuestions
Maarten van Schie wrote: > > On Tue, 2 Jan 2001, Kal Torak wrote: > > > Maarten van Schie wrote: > > > > > > You guys talk about a 'duel boot'. But as far as I go a duel is an > > > opposition. It should be 'dual' caused by the composition. > > > > > > That might be a nice situation, but as soon as there is more than one > > O/S on a system they are both fighting for control, take as a prime > > example the system clock... > > > > So I think a duel boot is by definition a better description of > > for what we are talking about! > > I never realy encountered problems confronting Windows with Linux or > Windows with FreeBSD, so that's not realy true. If others do I reccon they > force them to(?). Obviously you have never tried to have a system use UTC... Any playing with BIOS settings would eventually break things in one system (eg. PnP O/S Installed, CardBuss mode, various other resource settings) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: MFC? src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC and sound support
Donn Miller wrote: > > "Michael C . Wu" wrote: > > > "Fully functional" for a desktop implies a working sound card too. > > This is one of of those things that does not really matter very much. > > A good server admin will recompile and customize his kernel. > > And a desktop user probably does not know how to compile a kernel. > > Are you telling me that, in your consultancy, you just keep GENERIC? > > > > There is no need for this bikeshed. Whether pcm is included in GEERIC > > or not does not really hurt anybody either way. > > FreeBSD is most often used as a server, not a desktop. Why exactly is > sound needed for a first install? If nothing else, PCM could be loaded > via a kernel module. Optional stuff usually should not be statically > linked into the kernel, but should be placed in KLD's. While this is true, the GENERIC kernel is supposed to support as much hardware "out of the box" as possible, so a user can install and not have to worry about setting up devices... Why should FreeBSD be used only as a server? There are plenty of linux desktops around, and FreeBSD can be used just as well, even better maybe! I dont see why sound shouldnt be in the GENERIC kernel, since if we decide what should be "generic" based on what a server will use then maybe we should take out mouse and USB support as well? What about all these ata devices? Any self respecting server would use SCSI! As you can see, that is a bit extreme... But you would have to say that sound is pretty much "generic" these days, so really belongs in the GENERIC kernel... Just my 2c, Kal. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: MFC? src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC and sound support
"Michael C . Wu" wrote: > "Fully functional" for a desktop implies a working sound card too. > This is one of of those things that does not really matter very much. > A good server admin will recompile and customize his kernel. > And a desktop user probably does not know how to compile a kernel. > Are you telling me that, in your consultancy, you just keep GENERIC? > > There is no need for this bikeshed. Whether pcm is included in GEERIC > or not does not really hurt anybody either way. FreeBSD is most often used as a server, not a desktop. Why exactly is sound needed for a first install? If nothing else, PCM could be loaded via a kernel module. Optional stuff usually should not be statically linked into the kernel, but should be placed in KLD's. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: Boot ManagerQuestions
On Tue, 2 Jan 2001, Kal Torak wrote: > Maarten van Schie wrote: > > > > You guys talk about a 'duel boot'. But as far as I go a duel is an > > opposition. It should be 'dual' caused by the composition. > > > That might be a nice situation, but as soon as there is more than one > O/S on a system they are both fighting for control, take as a prime > example the system clock... > > So I think a duel boot is by definition a better description of > for what we are talking about! I never realy encountered problems confronting Windows with Linux or Windows with FreeBSD, so that's not realy true. If others do I reccon they force them to(?). Maarten. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: Boot ManagerQuestions
Maarten van Schie wrote: > > You guys talk about a 'duel boot'. But as far as I go a duel is an > opposition. It should be 'dual' caused by the composition. That might be a nice situation, but as soon as there is more than one O/S on a system they are both fighting for control, take as a prime example the system clock... So I think a duel boot is by definition a better description of for what we are talking about! Happy knit picking! Kal. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: Boot ManagerQuestions
You guys talk about a 'duel boot'. But as far as I go a duel is an opposition. It should be 'dual' caused by the composition. Maarten. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: Boot ManagerQuestions
> On Mon, 1 Jan 2001, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > On Fri, 29 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > [...snip of questions I leave for others...] > > > > > > > >Does anyone know the MS/IBM approved codes for the various types > > > > > > > >6 = DOS FAT16 > > > >? = DOS FAT32 > > > > > > FAT32 and FAT16 are both 6. > > > > Wrong. 4 is DOS FAT 16 < 32mb > > 6 is DOS FAT 16 > 32mb > >11 is DOS/Win9X FAT32 > >12 is DOS/Win9X FAT32 LBA (rarely actually used) > > When I partitioned the drive on the box that I'm using at this > very minute, I gave type 6 to my DOS partitions. Those partitions > currently house FAT32 filesystems. Your sure it still is type 6 after your ran fat32 format??? > IOW, in practice, I doubt it matters if you assign 6 or 11 to a > DOS partition. I am not sure on that, I've never seen a type 6 fat32, but then I have never purposefully tried to create one either. Win9x OSr2 and later fdisk creates them as type 11 if you answer yes to the Enable large disk question, if they are larger than some magic number, otherwise it just creates type 6 partitions. The magic size is either 504MB or 2G, can't recall right now. -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
