Re: problem with plip stealing clock

2001-05-01 Thread John Merryweather Cooper

Peter Jeremy wrote:
 
 On 2001-Apr-30 08:29:31 -0700, John Merryweather Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 While using my main workstation as a local FTP for my laptop over plip,
 I noticed that FreeBSD was losing track of time at a prodigious rate.
 
 PLIP receives/transmits each IP packet inside a loop at splhigh().
 If either system is slow, or the MTU is too high, the time taken to
 transfer each packet can exceed 1 tick - meaning that clock interrupt
 is lost.  Other PIO peripherals (ethernet or disk) will aggravate the
 problem.

I suspect transfering between a AMD Duron 700 and an Intel 386SX/20
qualifies . . . :) 

Couldn't the plip interface arbitrate this though by driving it's bus
cycle at the pace of the slowest system?  I'm sure, in practice, that
the rarest use of plip is between two machines of nearly equal CPU
speed.  Probably, my use is fairly typical.  If my damn laptop had a
network port, I'd use that--but the Token Ring 16/4 Adapter seems as
rare a gold for my ancient AST Premium Exec 386SX/20 . . . :)  Probably
wouldn't work with FreeBSD anyway . . . bummer.

 I did have the problem with PLIP between my 386 laptop and 486 desktop
 until I reduced the MTU to 512.

Anything magical about 512 (or is lower better here).  If lower is
better, how low can I go (I guess I'll find out).

 Have you considered using a PPP link running at 115.2kbps instead?
 You will find it a lot more CPU friendly.

Yes.  Not looking forward to buying yet another single-purpose cable. 
The null modem I have doesn't seem to do the trick anymore. 

 Peter
 

jmc

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Re: Next STABLE release going to be 4.4?

2001-05-01 Thread W Gerald Hicks

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Re: sysinstall error

2001-05-01 Thread Christopher Shumway

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Chris Byrnes wrote:

 awww# pwd
 /usr/src/release/sysinstall
 awww# make all depend install
 Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/release/sysinstall
 make: don't know how to make sysinstall.1. Stop
 awww#

Your world is out of date. There has been some changes to /usr/share/mk/* that
will prevent manual pages from building if your source tree is more up to date
than your world.

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Re: tail

2001-05-01 Thread Matthew Hunt

On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 07:30:18AM +0200, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:

 JS Not sure about this; if you e.g. vi a directory, it will warn you that it
 
   It is dangerous to vi a directory, but it is not dangerous to tail
 one.

More to the point, opening a directory for writing is an error.  Since
you normally use an editor to modify files, instead of just viewing them,
it makes sense that vi warns you that you won't be able to write back your
changes.  It would not make sense for tail to warn you, because it only
reads files.

wopr:~$ perl -e 'open SPORK, tmp/ or die $!'
Is a directory at -e line 1.
wopr:~$ perl -e 'open SPORK, tmp/ or die $!'
wopr:~$ 

(See also man 2 open.)

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Re: sysinstall error

2001-05-01 Thread Chris Byrnes

Thanks.  I re-built /usr/src/share/mk/* and all went well.


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  awww# make all depend install
  Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/release/sysinstall
  make: don't know how to make sysinstall.1. Stop
  awww#

 Your world is out of date. There has been some changes to /usr/share/mk/* that
 will prevent manual pages from building if your source tree is more up to date
 than your world.

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4.3 Release: PPP problem

2001-05-01 Thread echelon

Hi,

I am writing to report that there are some problems
with the ppp on 4.3 release. My box couldn't complete
the login procedure with my DSL provider. There is no
such ppp problem before I cvsup to 4.3 release from
4.3 beta. Currently, I have to cvsup back to 4.3 beta
to resolve this problem (*default date =
2001.03.20.00.00.00.00. The same problem occurs with
4.3 RC (date=2001.04.01.00.00.00.00). Hence, I suspect
this ppp (pppoe + netgraph) problem was introduced
when 4.3 beta was patched to 4.3 RC.

I use this freebsd box as internet gateway, and hence
ppp, ppp nat, netgraph, sshd  ipfilter are used. NIC
is 3Com 3C905B. This ppp problem is resolved after I
rebuilt from the 4.3 beta source tree. The rc.conf,
kernel conf and ppp log are attached at the end.

FYI

-echelon


rc.conf: (abstract only)
gateway_enable=YES
sshd_enable=YES
ipfilter_enable=YES
ppp_enable=YES
ppp_mode=auto
ppp_nat=YES

kernel conf: (abstract only)
options NETGRAPH
options NETGRAPH_ETHER
options NETGRAPH_PPPOE
options NETGRAPH_SOCKET


Here is the ppp.log (abstract only)

May  1 05:30:01 host ppp[111]: Phase: bundle:
Establish 
May  1 05:30:01 host ppp[111]: Phase: deflink: closed
- opening 
May  1 05:30:01 host ppp[111]: Phase: deflink:
Connected! 
May  1 05:30:01 host ppp[111]: Phase: deflink: opening
- dial 
May  1 05:30:01 host ppp[111]: Chat: deflink: Dial
attempt 1 of 1 
May  1 05:30:01 host ppp[111]: Phase: deflink: dial -
carrier 
May  1 05:30:06 host ppp[111]: Phase: deflink:
Disconnected! 
May  1 05:30:06 host ppp[111]: Phase: deflink: carrier
- hangup 
May  1 05:30:06 host ppp[111]: Phase: deflink: Connect
time: 5 secs: 0 octets in, 0 octets out 
May  1 05:30:06 host ppp[111]: Phase: deflink: :
119162 packets in, 90998 packets out 
May  1 05:30:06 host ppp[111]: Phase:  total 0
bytes/sec, peak 0 bytes/sec on Tue May  1 05:30:06
 2001 
May  1 05:30:06 host ppp[111]: Phase: deflink: hangup
- closed 
May  1 05:30:06 host ppp[111]: Phase: bundle: Dead 
May  1 05:30:11 host ppp[111]: Phase: bundle:
Establish 
May  1 05:30:11 host ppp[111]: Phase: deflink: closed
- opening 
May  1 05:30:11 host ppp[111]: Phase: deflink:
Connected! 
May  1 05:30:11 host ppp[111]: Phase: deflink: opening
- dial 
May  1 05:30:11 host ppp[111]: Chat: deflink: Dial
attempt 1 of 1 
May  1 05:30:11 host ppp[111]: Phase: deflink: dial -
carrier 
May  1 05:30:16 host ppp[111]: Phase: deflink:
Disconnected! 
May  1 05:30:16 host ppp[111]: Phase: deflink: carrier
- hangup 
May  1 05:30:16 host ppp[111]: Phase: deflink: Connect
time: 5 secs: 0 octets in, 0 octets out 
May  1 05:30:16 host ppp[111]: Phase: deflink: :
119162 packets in, 90998 packets out 
May  1 05:30:16 host ppp[111]: Phase:  total 0
bytes/sec, peak 0 bytes/sec on Tue May  1 05:30:16

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Strange BTX halted error

2001-05-01 Thread Gordon Tetlow

I have an N440BX motherboard that, when using console redirection (so the
BIOS messages and such come over the serial port), displays the following:

BTX loader 1.00  BTX version is 1.01
Console: internal video/keyboard
BIOS drive A: is disk0
BIOS drive C: is disk1
BIOS 635kB/523200kB available memory

FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.8
([EMAIL PROTECTED], Wed Oct  4 15:01:32 PDT 2000)
Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf

int=000d  err=  efl=00010216  eip=5a6c
eax=ff08428b  ebx=760c  ecx=  edx=00030160
esi=00037788  edi=00093468  ebp=00093258  esp=00093258
cs=002b  ds=0033  es=0033fs=0033  gs=0033  ss=0033
cs:eip=89 11 83 40 08 04 c9 c3-55 89 e5 8b 45 08 8b 48
ss:esp=98 32 09 00 d8 91 00 00-8b 42 08 ff 60 01 03 00
BTX halted

I was wondering if anyone else has seen this. The problem seems somewhat
intermittent. It doesn't *always* happen but it often does. If I hit the
reset switch, it seems to boot reliably from there.

This system (actually systems. It's more than one so I know it's not
hardware) booted perfectly until I enabled the console redirection.
Nothing on the box has changed other than that.

Any ideas? I'm stumped.

-gordon


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Re: Strange BTX halted error

2001-05-01 Thread flash

I had the exact same problem when I had 'SCSI Bios' enabled on my Adaptec 2940.

Turned it off and that stopped. Not sure what the problem is, but I know that is
the solution for me :)

Marc

On Tue, 1 May 2001, Gordon Tetlow wrote:

 I have an N440BX motherboard that, when using console redirection (so the
 BIOS messages and such come over the serial port), displays the following:

 BTX loader 1.00  BTX version is 1.01
 Console: internal video/keyboard
 BIOS drive A: is disk0
 BIOS drive C: is disk1
 BIOS 635kB/523200kB available memory

 FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.8
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED], Wed Oct  4 15:01:32 PDT 2000)
 Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf

 int=000d  err=  efl=00010216  eip=5a6c
 eax=ff08428b  ebx=760c  ecx=  edx=00030160
 esi=00037788  edi=00093468  ebp=00093258  esp=00093258
 cs=002b  ds=0033  es=0033fs=0033  gs=0033  ss=0033
 cs:eip=89 11 83 40 08 04 c9 c3-55 89 e5 8b 45 08 8b 48
 ss:esp=98 32 09 00 d8 91 00 00-8b 42 08 ff 60 01 03 00
 BTX halted

 I was wondering if anyone else has seen this. The problem seems somewhat
 intermittent. It doesn't *always* happen but it often does. If I hit the
 reset switch, it seems to boot reliably from there.

 This system (actually systems. It's more than one so I know it's not
 hardware) booted perfectly until I enabled the console redirection.
 Nothing on the box has changed other than that.

 Any ideas? I'm stumped.

 -gordon


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Re: Strange BTX halted error

2001-05-01 Thread Matt Dillon

:Well, that's not going to work, as I don't have an Adaptec and I need the
:onboard SCSI to boot =/ Thanks for the help though. If someone can
:decipher what all the register's mean, I can provide access to the boot
:loader binary and source (4.1.1-RELEASE I believe).
:
:-gordon
:
:On Tue, 1 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:
: I had the exact same problem when I had 'SCSI Bios' enabled on my
: Adaptec 2940.
:
: Turned it off and that stopped. Not sure what the problem is, but I
: know that is the solution for me :)

I was getting BTX halted failures due to BIOS confusion related to
dangerously dedicated partitions.  It's what prompted me to fix the
disklabel code to allow boot blocks to be installed on slices.

Unfortunately, the only way I could fix my particular problem was
to get rid of my dangerously dedicated partition which meant blowing
away the hard drive and repartitioning and relabeling it.

The very last example, just before the SEE ALSO section for the 
'disklabel' manual page shows how to do this.  But be warned: it blows
away the disk.


http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=disklabelapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+4.3-RELEASEformat=html

I do not know if my problem is the same as yours, so this could be all
for nothing.

-Matt


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Re: Strange BTX halted error

2001-05-01 Thread Gordon Tetlow

No, we don't use dangerously dedicated since the word dangerous was in
it. Figured it might not be a good thing =) Thanks though.

-gordon

On Tue, 1 May 2001, Matt Dillon wrote:

 I was getting BTX halted failures due to BIOS confusion related to
 dangerously dedicated partitions.  It's what prompted me to fix the
 disklabel code to allow boot blocks to be installed on slices.

 Unfortunately, the only way I could fix my particular problem was
 to get rid of my dangerously dedicated partition which meant blowing
 away the hard drive and repartitioning and relabeling it.

 The very last example, just before the SEE ALSO section for the
 'disklabel' manual page shows how to do this.  But be warned: it blows
 away the disk.

 
http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=disklabelapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+4.3-RELEASEformat=html

 I do not know if my problem is the same as yours, so this could be all
 for nothing.


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Re: SoundBlaster PCI 128

2001-05-01 Thread Mike Hoskins

On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Dave Uhring wrote:

 Honestly, I simply put the line
 
 devicepcm
 
 into my KERNCONF file and don't even know how to load kernel modules.  My 
 system even has an on-the-motherboard via-686a sound chip and it works 
 perfectly - well, almost.

I think something that's /possibly/ being overlooked here is that some,
myself included, who had perfectly-working sound before...  now do not.

I've got the proper lines in my kernel config, I've remade all my devices,
yet the same config that worked in the previous STABLE now does not.

It seems obvious something changed, just not sure what.

Later,
-Mike


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