Re: Regarding hw.ata.wc=1......
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Shawn Workman wrote: Its only unsafe if you lose power. I think that anyone running a server without a UPS deserves to lose data. First, there's an infinite number of variables that can lead to power loss. Think about it. Especially the ones without recent backups... Second, should I be forced to use backups in a situation where I wouldn't have had to otherwise? I'm thinking in terms of uptime here. Time restoring from tape is not 'up' time. Later, -Mike -- Log analysis mailing list: http://www.adept.org/mailinglists.html#logwatchers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: Regarding hw.ata.wc=1......
Don't resurrect this thread - it already ran long enough the first time and had plenty of argument advanced on both sides. Go read the mailing list archives if you feel a deepseated personal need to go through the decision process in agonizing detail because that's what we did already. - Jordan From: Mike Hoskins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Regarding hw.ata.wc=1.. Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 08:12:58 -0700 (PDT) On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Mike Tancsa wrote: to take. Yes, writes will be faster with write caching enabled. However, its that much more risky incase of power loss. snip disabled by default. However, it was turned back on as a default a little later. Hmm. I hope the response to recent performance tests was /not/ to make a potentially unsafe option 'default'. Sometimes 'faster' isn't better - anyone with a brain knows that, right? Try replacing an overloaded VAX with a nice x86 box and watch it run fast at first, then die smoking under load (humorous story from college days ;)... You get my point. Later, -Mike -- Log analysis mailing list: http://www.adept.org/mailinglists.html#logwatchers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: Regarding hw.ata.wc=1......
On Tue 2001-07-24 (12:14), Mixtim wrote: On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 08:12:58AM -0700, Mike Hoskins wrote: Hmm. I hope the response to recent performance tests was /not/ to make a potentially unsafe option 'default'. Its only unsafe if you lose power. I think that anyone running a server without a UPS deserves to lose data. UPS's die. More often than using standard power in some areas. And you're also discounting all sorts of hardware power issues that may occur. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: Regarding hw.ata.wc=1......
From: Mike Hoskins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Regarding hw.ata.wc=1.. Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 08:53:02 -0700 (PDT) Unfortuneately then, the reason I chose FreeBSD (server-tuned OS) so many years ago is no longer valid. Of course, I knew this would What ridiculous, unsubstantiated flame-bait. There are any number of options that you can turn on or off, and FreeBSD shipped with wc ON for a very long time without catastrophic effects. It's only for a very brief window in our history that we turned it *off*, and everybody and their uncle then screamed that we'd just seriously pessimized performance with no proof whatsoever that having it on had ever caused data loss. In areas where we're quite sure the opposite is true, like async filesystem mounts, the defaults are and will remain quite conservative. Besides, anybody who wants reliability from an IDE drive without some sort of hardware RAID assistance (like a 3Ware controller) has no clue about creating a server-tuned OS from the hardware perspective anyway, so this option is more or less irrelevant to them. The micky-mouse admins are just doing it as a hobby anyway so why take their ravings that seriously? You want a server, use SCSI drives at the very minimum and some sort of RAID product on top of that if it's really genuinely a server. The hardware's cheap enough now that there's simply no excuse for not taking such steps. Enough said. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: Regarding hw.ata.wc=1......
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote: What ridiculous, unsubstantiated flame-bait. Call it lack of coffee and a bad hangover. After reading your post, the issue becomes clearer. To be honest, I immediately assumed an argumentative stance because the (most recent) thread was started with a why isn't this like Linux tone. Frankly, I hate that. (A thousand apologies for wasted bw.) Later, -Mike -- Log analysis mailing list: http://www.adept.org/mailinglists.html#logwatchers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
question about wc on for NON-critical workstation (no flamebait)
For day to day use (programming, netscape, email, etc) will wc on show any performance improvement? jcm -- o-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-o | Jonathon McKitrick ~ | | I prefer the term 'Artificial Person' myself. | o-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-o To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: Updating to the new telnetd
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gunnar Flygt writes: I have a machine running 4.3-RELEASE cvsuped via the RELENG_4_3 branch. What's the best way to see to that I have the new telnetd on the machine? I saw that the cvsup gave me a lot of changes to the telnetd files, but also to two other files. One in crypto part and one in netinet (or whatever). Will it be enough to only rebuild telnetd, or should I make world? cd /usr/src/secure/libexec/telnetd make obj make make install Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy SchubertFax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: is stable stable?
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 09:52:49 +0200 (CEST) A. L. Meyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AM A comparison: AM Debian GNU/Linux has 3 trees: 1. stable 2. testing 3. unstable RELENG_4_3, RELENG_4, 'Top of Tree' (in CVS terms) security, stable, current(in release name terms) AM The FreeBSD stable appears more comparable a mix of stable AM and testing. Debian GNU/Linux only release a major stable AM update once yearly, a shorter interval being considered bug AM churning. Hmm FreeBSD runs a *RELEASE* three times a year, what would be the point of a branch that moves *slower* than releases ? AM ensure that stable means what it says. Do you seriously expect AM all users to go thru the testing procedures enumerated below? I expect it in commercial environments (Solaris installs get treated this way where I work for example). I don't treat my home systems this way and I accept the risk. AM Most probably expect such things to be done by developers before AM new and/or improved code is incorporated into stable. This an unreasonable expectation, commercial vendors cannot achieve this (note they *never* give access to any development stream, employ testers and still ship bugs) why should open source projects be able to do so much better. (actually they do the -stable tree is at least as good as the 'track the patches' game on any commercial OS). -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: probably remote exploit
On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 03:56:26 +0200 (SAST) The Psychotic Viper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TV Sure it takes time to to backup user data, reinstall of multiple machines TV but it may save a lot of time when you have to keep rebuilding your TV machine because your visitor keeps getting back in. Also prevents them TV getting in remotely (hopefully) through a known vulnerablity if you TV install the latest release of whatever OS you have. Of course if the invader managed to lodge a starter somewhere in the user data then sooner or later you're open again :( Complete security is a myth, unless you built the hardware yourself in a closed room, audited (or preferably wrote) all the code and all executable and configuration data is physically read only *before* any connection can be made. Even then some bright spark will probably find a hole! All you can do is raise the bar high enough to send the invader somewhere else, or try and trap them and find them. Reinstall from clean media and restore user data is about as good as you can reasonably do and it puts the bar pretty high. -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: question about wc on for NON-critical workstation (no flamebait)
On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 10:12:41AM -0700, John Merryweather Cooper wrote: | On 2001.07.24 10:09 j mckitrick wrote: | | For day to day use (programming, netscape, email, etc) will wc on show | any | performance improvement? | | jcm | -- | o-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-o | | Jonathon McKitrick ~ | | | I prefer the term 'Artificial Person' myself. | | o-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-o | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message | | | Try it . . . the answer is yes . . . and like everything else | in life (especially entities that are built for speed), it's | a calculated risk. I figure I have a battery pack anyway for the laptop, but I wondered if such a light load would benefit from write-caching anyway, with softupdates running as well. jcm -- o-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-o | Jonathon McKitrick ~ | | I prefer the term 'Artificial Person' myself. | o-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-o To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: question about wc on for NON-critical workstation (no flamebait)
j mckitrick wrote: For day to day use (programming, netscape, email, etc) will wc on show any performance improvement? It's hard to tell. You might try switching it on for a week and see if YOU notice any difference. If it doesn't seem to do anything for you, then just turn it back off and leave it be. I suspect you will see speedup in your compiles and extractions. Anything that has a lot of disk write activity is likely to be sped up by enabling the wc, but how much speedup you can actually feel will depend on your machine and you. -- \ |_ _|__ __|_ \ __| Jason Andresen[EMAIL PROTECTED] |\/ | ||/ _| Network and Distributed Systems Engineer _| _|___| _| _|_\___| Office: 703-883-7755 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: question about wc on for NON-critical workstation (no flamebait)
Jason Andresen wrote: j mckitrick wrote: For day to day use (programming, netscape, email, etc) will wc on show any performance improvement? It's hard to tell. You might try switching it on for a week and see if YOU notice any difference. If it doesn't seem to do anything for you, then just turn it back off and leave it be. I suspect you will see speedup in your compiles and extractions. Anything that has a lot of disk write activity is likely to be sped up by enabling the wc, but how much speedup you can actually feel will depend on your machine and you. My buildworld on a dual 866 coppermine system went from 42 minutes to 29 minutes. The other side effect was the -j8 parameter finally did something. Before that anything from -j2 on, actually made the buildworld run longer. I think the cpu's were starved for I/O. The system is built around 3-ATA-100 Maxtor 30GB HD's. The motherboard is a VP6 and each HD is on its own controller. Using raid-0 also slowed the compile down. Kent -- \ |_ _|__ __|_ \ __| Jason Andresen[EMAIL PROTECTED] |\/ | ||/ _| Network and Distributed Systems Engineer _| _|___| _| _|_\___| Office: 703-883-7755 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA Cool site http://www.bmwfilms.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: Looks like (some) networking is broken
On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 07:11:29PM -0400, Ray Kohler wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 15:52:32 -0700 Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 06:47:04PM -0400, Ray Kohler wrote: Something committed recently (within the last 24 hours) has broken networking for me. I can look hosts up just fine but can't connect to them (i. e. Netscape, ftp, telnet, etc sit at connecting to xxx or trying xxx.xxx.x.xx). Going back to yesterday's kernel build fixes the problem. If you want any more info from me then just ask. Did you make world along with your new kernel? How about modules? Didn't make world, but did rebuild modules. (Not that I was using any relevant ones anyway, the only .ko I use is linux ;) And just for the record, I'm not using gif(4). You have to make world whenever you update your kernel sources. Kris P.S. Please wrap your lines in your emails, it makes it hard to read. PGP signature
Re: question about wc on for NON-critical workstation (no flamebait)
On 2001.07.24 10:09 j mckitrick wrote: For day to day use (programming, netscape, email, etc) will wc on show any performance improvement? jcm -- o-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-o | Jonathon McKitrick ~ | | I prefer the term 'Artificial Person' myself. | o-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-o To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message Try it . . . the answer is yes . . . and like everything else in life (especially entities that are built for speed), it's a calculated risk. jmc To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: If you think people use FreeBSD for server, you must've beenoutta school for long long time!
Yes, I have been out of school for a long long time. Therefore I know that there's a lot more to the world than school junior. In the real world where my income, my partners' income, and my employees income depend on the reliablility of the service we sell I need a reliable server OS and FreeBSD is it. Without servers there are no network services. If you ever grow up and go out into the real world you'll know what that means. There are plenty of desktop OSs out there so pay the fiddler and use one of them. Or, since you have the source, write your own local mods to make FreeBSD do what you want, either way stop being a troll. :0 * ^From:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Today Sung Nae Cho wrote: As far as I know, at Virginia Tech, especially in Physics + mathematics department, most of us use either Linux, FreeSD, and other flavors of UNICES for non i386 machines. In we have Windows 2000 installed for those computers that anyone can surf on internet for info. Everyone that I know of uses Linux or FreeBSD for his/her desktop use, not server use. Why do we prefer to use Linux/FreeBSD over Windows for desktop use? Well, all the C++/C/FORTRAN/LATEX /PDF, GHOSTSCRIPT converters are all free! For Windows, that would cost thousands of $$. Plus the simulations run faster on Linux and FreeBSD. Maybe 3 yrs ago, both Linux and FreeBSD were for servers only. Servers are easy to make! Now, Linux and FreeBSD are mainly used as a desktop for most people using it. How many server administrators do you think are in U.S. compared to the desktop UNIX users? Physics department has 2 server administrator (they use Redhat Linux) compared to 40 Graduate students, 38 faculties with 70% using either Linux or FreeBSD. If you keep tieing FreeBSD with server market, you're only hurting FreeBSD community. Desktop is the king! I sure don't use much of the server side of the FreeBSD on my machine. Who cares! However, I expect my FreeBSD to fly when I'm computing serious problems. If FreeBSD's going to ever survive in this world, it needs to compete with Linux, Windows, OS X in desktop market! Sung N. Cho To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message -- Jack O'NeillSystems Administrator / Systems Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages /dev/null -- A Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer is to computing what a McDonalds Certified Food Specialist is to fine cuisine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: Regarding hw.ata.wc=1......
Hi, You can't search, but you can browse... Regards -T.W.Chan- On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Gregory Bond wrote: Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 09:12:18 +1000 From: Gregory Bond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jordan Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Regarding hw.ata.wc=1.. Go read the mailing list archives if you feel a deepseated personal need to go through the decision process in agonizing detail Except that None of the archives you requested (freebsd-stable) are available at this time. (This has been the case for quite some time...) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: Looks like (some) networking is broken
7/24/01 5:04:04 PM, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 07:11:29PM -0400, Ray Kohler wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 15:52:32 -0700 Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 06:47:04PM -0400, Ray Kohler wrote: Something committed recently (within the last 24 hours) has broken networking for me. I can look hosts up just fine but can't connect to them (i. e. Netscape, ftp, telnet, etc sit at connecting to xxx or trying xxx.xxx.x.xx). Going back to yesterday's kernel build fixes the problem. If you want any more info from me then just ask. Did you make world along with your new kernel? How about modules? Didn't make world, but did rebuild modules. (Not that I was using any relevant ones anyway, the only .ko I use is linux ;) And just for the record, I'm not using gif(4). You have to make world whenever you update your kernel sources. If a kernel change is that drastic then there ought to be a message in UPDATING. It shouldn't take an 8-hour process to (say) get a small bugfix in place. (And please do not just quote UPDATING to me, I've read it.) I don't want to sound like a troll or flamer but this has never been a hard requirement before and I don't see why it is now. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
is there any known problem in termcap/libncurses?
hi, there i have a problem to type multi-byte language in BitchX and mutt(not in editor mode, but in-line text type mode such as 'subject' line) after 'make world' to 4.3-STABLE on july 11, 2001. of course, there were not any problem before the system rebuild date. one more interesting things are, if i do ssh to my host from outside(or even from my localhost), there's no such problem. the only significant difference between normal terminal and ssh-ed terminal is 'TERMCAP' variable. if i do ssh, there's no TERMCAP variable. and there's no such multi-byte language type problem. imho, maybe, there's some problem in termcap or libncurses. do i guess right, or not? -- % cat ~/.signature nothing to advertise PGP signature
cvsup via socks5
I'm having a very difficult time getting cvsup to run via socks5. I'm using socks5 from to ports for a socks client. Here's a little snippit of what's happening. jester# telnet cvsup2.freebsd.org 5999 Trying 205.149.189.91... telnet: connect to address 205.149.189.91: Connection refused # Our firewall doesn't allow this port telnet: Unable to connect to remote host jester# runsocks telnet cvsup2.freebsd.org 5999 # Our socks proxy does allow it. Trying 0.0.0.1... # Weird huh? This appears to be a problem with runsocks and I think that's the culprit. Connected to cvsup2.freebsd.org. Escape character is '^]'. OK 16 1 REL_16_1 CVSup server ready # Taadaa! ^] telnet quit Connection closed. jester# runsocks cvsup -L 2 ports-supfile Parsing supfile ports-supfile Connecting to cvsup2.FreeBSD.org Cannot connect to cvsup2.FreeBSD.org: Connection refused# Doh! Will retry at 18:38:52 Makes it a little difficult to track stable. Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated. By the way, if there is a more apropriate mailing list for this, please let me know. James. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: If you think people use FreeBSD for server, you must've been outta school for long long time!
Hahaha, couldn't be put any better than that! I think our solution is just to have one windows machine to watch lara croft and her jiggly breasts which crashs all the time and loads of FreeBSD machines to use while the windows one doesn't work! Rgds. Scott Taggart - Original Message - From: Jordan Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 12:24 AM Subject: Re: If you think people use FreeBSD for server, you must've been outta school for long long time! Oh dear. Is there something in the water or has the CIA been too freely using their microwave-o-matic satellite (which the rest of the world, snicker, still knows as the Hubble space telescope)? Don't get me wrong, a certain amount of mind control is fine and only to be expected of our humble civil servants, but people have been just plain wacky these last few weeks! What can we expect for our next long, tortuous thread from hell - a return to the X server should be in the kernel discussion? Or perhaps we should start talking about killing Linux binary compatability again - that would make Brett happy! Whatever it is, I wish it would stop. The signal-to-noise ratio has been simply ridiculous lately and if the latest poster really wants a BSD desktop solution, I'm sure Apple would be happy to sell him an iMac. He can even run Tomb Raider on it and watch Lara Croft's breasts jiggle in fine OpenGL rendered detail! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: Looks like (some) networking is broken
On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 09:12:25PM -0700, Ray Kohler wrote: 7/24/01 5:04:04 PM, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 07:11:29PM -0400, Ray Kohler wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 15:52:32 -0700 Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 06:47:04PM -0400, Ray Kohler wrote: Something committed recently (within the last 24 hours) has broken networking for me. I can look hosts up just fine but can't connect to them (i. e. Netscape, ftp, telnet, etc sit at connecting to xxx or trying xxx.xxx.x.xx). Going back to yesterday's kernel build fixes the problem. If you want any more info from me then just ask. Did you make world along with your new kernel? How about modules? Didn't make world, but did rebuild modules. (Not that I was using any relevant ones anyway, the only .ko I use is linux ;) And just for the record, I'm not using gif(4). You have to make world whenever you update your kernel sources. If a kernel change is that drastic then there ought to be a message in UPDATING. It shouldn't take an 8-hour process to (say) get a small bugfix in place. (And please do not just quote UPDATING to me, I've read it.) I don't want to sound like a troll or flamer but this has never been a hard requirement before and I don't see why it is now. Wrong. It's _always_ been the case that you'll have problems if you don't keep your userland in sync with your kernel. That's why all of the documentation in the handbook about upgrading your system tells you to do both. Kris PGP signature
Is KDE 2.x.x Media Player (Noatun) working under FreeBSD?
Hi, Has anyone one figure out how to get the media player in KDE 2.1.1 (Noatun) to work in FreeBSD? I don't know whether it's an incompatibility between KDE and FreeBSD or just a misconfiguration. Sung N. Cho To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
make world every week?
im running freebsd 4.3-stable and every friday night i'm updating my sources via cvsup. my question is do i have to always build the world after every cvsup so that i may stay stable? jett
RE: make world every week?
I don't. I just run a buildworld/makeworld when there is a security advisory. That gives me an excuse to go through the process. Your milage my vary.. Todd -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of jettSent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 10:41 PMTo: freebsd-stableSubject: make world every week? im running freebsd 4.3-stable and every friday night i'm updating my sources via cvsup. my question is do i have to always build the world after every cvsup so that i may stay stable? jett
Re: make world every week?
On 2001.07.24 19:41 jett wrote: im running freebsd 4.3-stable and every friday night i'm updating my sources via cvsup. my question is do i have to always build the world after every cvsup so that i may stay stable? jett Please turn off the double-pump of HTML. It makes replying a mess . . . No. I cvsup frequently, but I only make when something of interest has changed. Then I make world make kernel KERNCONF=your_kernel_config. jmc To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
