Re: prerelease 4.4

2001-08-16 Thread Bill Moran

klein brock wrote:

 i don't wanna see this message... does somebody know
 how ?

Is that coming from /etc/motd?

-Bill

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Re: prerelease 4.4

2001-08-16 Thread klein brock


no.. that's not coming from /etc/motd.

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 klein brock wrote:
 
  i don't wanna see this message... does somebody
 know
  how ?
 
 Is that coming from /etc/motd?
 
 -Bill


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Re: Stable Documentation

2001-08-16 Thread Pete Fritchman

++ 16/08/01 17:59 + - Jeff Lee:
| I am trying to keep up my reading of the docs from freeBSD-Stable, but I 
| have no idea how to turn the doc tree into a readable format.  I tried to 
| read the documentation project primer, but that didn't help too much.  If 
| someone could just send me the procedure to build and install the 
| documentation, I would be able to read all of it, and possibly 
| contribute.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/x182.html

To actually build the docs (render the different formats from the SGML):
cd path to co'd doc/en_US.ISO8859-1; make

You can specify specific formats with the FORMATS variable.

Perhaps the FDP is lacking on this; maybe making it more clear will be
your first patch? :-)

Good luck,

-pete

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Re: prerelease 4.4

2001-08-16 Thread Pete Fritchman

++ 16/08/01 11:30 -0700 - klein brock:
| no.. that's not coming from /etc/motd.

Depending on your shell, look in:

~/.cshrc
~/.login
~/.profile (or ~/.bash_profile)

... and, if it's happening for every user, check out:
/etc/csh.cshrc
/etc/csh.login
/etc/profile

You can also specify an alternative file to read the motd from in
login.conf, but I suspect you would remember if you did this...

-pete

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Re: prerelease 4.4

2001-08-16 Thread Robert Watson


This might be Nik Clayton's hints fortune at login.  Take a look at your
.login or .shrc.

I suspect this should actually be in /etc/csh.login, if present at all.

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On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, klein brock wrote:

 i just upgrade to prerelease 4.4. everytime i login
 there is a message something like:
 
 * You can search for documentation on a keyword by
 typing
  apropos keyword
 * 
 You can save your kernel startup configuration with
 kget(8).  The
 Configuration can be edited at boot time with 'boot
 -c' command in loader.
 See boot(8), loader(8) for details.
 
 etc...
 
 i don't wanna see this message... does somebody know
 how ?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: Stable Documentation

2001-08-16 Thread Jamil Taylor

On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 14:40:48 -0400
 Pete Fritchman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ++ 16/08/01 17:59 + - Jeff Lee:
 | I am trying to keep up my reading of the docs from freeBSD-Stable, but I 
 | have no idea how to turn the doc tree into a readable format.  I tried to
 | read the documentation project primer, but that didn't help too much.  If
 | someone could just send me the procedure to build and install the 
 | documentation, I would be able to read all of it, and possibly 
 | contribute.
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/x182.html
 
 To actually build the docs (render the different formats from the SGML):
 cd path to co'd doc/en_US.ISO8859-1; make
 
 You can specify specific formats with the FORMATS variable.
 
 Perhaps the FDP is lacking on this; maybe making it more clear will be
 your first patch? :-)
 
 Good luck,
 
 -pete

Also, install the tools needed to build the docs. This can be done easily by
installing the docproj port located in ports/textproc/docproj.

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Re: ypserv.new (feeback requested)

2001-08-16 Thread Deven Kampenhout

David E. Cross wrote:

 I notice that a lot of people downloaded the ypserv update.  I also know that
 many people have had the same troubles I reported with the 'old' ypserv.
 Have any of you who have had troubles tested this version?  Did it work?
 For those who are running it, have you noticed any problems?
 
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When was this update published? I cvsuped to 4.4-prerelease on a system 
last friday, and was having problems getting nis to work correctly. I 
could get information fine, but when trying to log in with a linux 
machine (nis server is running FreeBSD 4.4-prerelease), the password 
keeps failing. Seems like the linux box can't correctly read the nis 
passwords.

Is this part of the known problem, or am I doing something wrong?

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New kernel option CPU_ENABLE_SSE

2001-08-16 Thread Kenneth W Cochran

Hello -stable:

A new kernel config option CPU_ENABLE_SSE has appeared.  :)

From recent cvsup of 15 August:

 Edit src/sys/i386/conf/LINT
  Add delta 1.749.2.77 2001.08.15.01.23.49 peter

So far I can't find any documentation about this feature
besides the brief comment in LINT, the release-notes mention
and the cvs log message (other pointers appreciated).

Questions:

Why might someone want to include this option (or not)?

Does this option entail a cost?

Assuming CPU_ENABLE_SSE is a Good Thing, why not make it
default with the cpu I686_CPU kernel config directive
(similar to F00F_HACK auto-include with I586_CPU)?

I guess my question boils down as why not support it
automa{t,g}ically?  :)  Either way is ok with me; I'm just
looking for an explanation and/or documentation.

Thanks,

-kc

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Re: 4.4-RC1 is now available

2001-08-16 Thread Murray Stokely

On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 03:43:13PM +0300, Vandyuk Eugene wrote:
 How cat I cvsup RC1 ? What the tag for this snapshot? RELENG_4_4 ?
 And what's the time of this snapshot ?

  I didn't tag the RC because that hasn't been done in the past and I
think its a bit overkill.  The release was built from -stable at
around 7pm PST on 8/15/01.

- Murray

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4.4-RC1 for upgrade?

2001-08-16 Thread Mike Meyer

I just wanted to verify that the upgrade option for 4.4-RC1 was
intentionally missing, and not left off by accident.


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Error by make buildworld

2001-08-16 Thread Grigory Kljuchnikov

Hello,

I've tried to make cvsuped stable sources and had an error:

$ make buildworld
...

eelf_i386.o: In function `gldelf_i386_open_dynamic_archive':
eelf_i386.o(.text+0xc7b): undefined reference to `basename'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /home/src-stable/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /home/src-stable/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /home/src-stable/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /home/src-stable/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /home/src-stable/src.

What's wrong?

Thanks.

Grigory Klyuchnikov, System Engineer,
Institute for System Programming
Russian Academy of Sciences


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Re: ypserv.new (feeback requested)

2001-08-16 Thread Bjoern Fischer

On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 12:19:01PM -0700, Deven Kampenhout wrote:
[ypserv]
 could get information fine, but when trying to log in with a linux 
 machine (nis server is running FreeBSD 4.4-prerelease), the password 
 keeps failing. Seems like the linux box can't correctly read the nis 
 passwords.
 
 Is this part of the known problem, or am I doing something wrong?

This looks like you are using different password hashes on linux
and FreeBSD. AFAIK both systems support DES and MD5, but there may
be different defaults in an out-of-the-box installation. Make sure
that both systems are using the same hash.

  Bjorn Fischer

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kernel won't build from kernel sources

2001-08-16 Thread Bill Moran

Before I get flamed or anything, let me first say that I don't know for sure
that this is broken, but it WAS broken in 4.3-RELEASE. I have been meaning to
cut a CD and see if it's still broken in 4.4-PRERELEASE but I've been simply
overwhelmed lately.
If nobody else gets around to it first, I'll make a concentrated effort to test
this over the weekend, but I thought I point out the problem so folks could
look at it beforehand, and in case I don't manage to find time for it.

Here's the scoop. If you install ONLY the kernel sources (which, according
to sysinstall, should allow you to compile a kernel) you are unable to
build a kernel. GENERIC won't work, I even tried a super stripped down
kernel and it still wouldn't compile. However, if you install FULL sources,
it works just fine.

I'm pointing this out because I'm guessing that it's something that is
easily overlooked in testing - most testers install full source, right?

So ... I don't know whether this has been fixed in 4.4-PRERELEASE, but it WAS
broken in 4.3-RELEASE. If nobody else manages to verify this by Saturday, I'll
make a serious effort to test and find out if it's still an issue.

-Bill

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Re: New kernel option CPU_ENABLE_SSE

2001-08-16 Thread Kris Kennaway

On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 04:20:35PM -0400, Kenneth W Cochran wrote:

 Assuming CPU_ENABLE_SSE is a Good Thing, why not make it
 default with the cpu I686_CPU kernel config directive
 (similar to F00F_HACK auto-include with I586_CPU)?

Because not all i686'es support SSE.

Kris

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