RE: Install boggle (4.4)
Yeah, unless I'm misunderstanding you it's *supposed* to do that, once you've written the info you have to just 'q' along and not worry about it. Or do you mean that you still get the errors? Same errors. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: serial console
At 9:24 +1000 10/18/01, Gregory Bond wrote: If this is an old machine that was installed with an old version and has been upgraded, then you will probably be running the original boot blocks. Try installing the latest boot blocks with disklabel. I see in the source that boot2 reads the /boot.config file. Since it basically prints a line immediately after reading a command and I am not seeing that line, I suspect boot2 is not being used. Here is what I see during the boot. BIOS stuff ends with: Verifying DMI Pool Data ... F1FreeBSD F5 Drive 1 Default: F1 - It then sits there for a minute or so. If I type a key then I get FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader boot: entering a -h there causes the serial console to work. If I don't type a key then I get: BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01 Console: internal video/keyboard etc. -- -- Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
art work
I asked this a couple of days ago and got no answer, so I'm gonna give it another try. Perhaps this isn't the right place to ask these questions... I received my 4.4-RELEASE CD set from my subscription. The subscription had been vectored through BSDcentral. I want to clone the first (install) CD for the techs in our company. Rather than putting the CD on my flatbed scanner to get a label image of the first CD, is the original artwork available somewhere? You know, like a TIFF image that was sent to the CD duplicators? If so, how do I get it. If it's not available, I'd like to know that too so I can generate some kind of artwork of my own. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: dirpref gives massive performance boost
Tim Bunce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can the diprefs code have a useful effect on an individual subtree of a file system if just that tree was deleted and recreated? Well, it depends on how much free space there is on the filesystem, and how fragmented it is. If the filesystem is 90% used, the dirprefs code doesn't have much room to use disk blocks for new directories in an efficient way. But it's probably better than nothing. It's very difficult to say in advance, so I'd suggest you just try it. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream (E. A. Poe) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: serial console
On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 06:36:35PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: Hans de Hartog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something else you might want to try: put -P in /boot.config and disconnect your keyboard during the BIOS-blabla /boot.config is obsolete and doesn't work with loader(8). I'd suggest you write the following line into /boot/loader.conf: kernel_options=-h Since when? It's still in today's -STABLE source from what I can tell. It works fine on a -STABLE built this weekend. -- Crist J. Clark | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/| [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: dirpref gives massive performance boost
Robert Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A related question that I was wondering, Does my /kernel have the new dirpref code? If you've build kernel and userland from the same date (which is always recommended), then it is sufficient to look at the newfs(8) manpage. If it has the -g and -h options, then you've got dirprefs in the kernel. They were introduced at the same time as the kernel dirprefs code. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream (E. A. Poe) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Recovering from clobbered boot manager?
So, whats the easist way to recover from a clobbered boot manager in FreeBSD? I kind of naively assumed that this would be easy to do from an installation CDROM (4.3-RELEASE) but I failed to get it to work. Going Configure-Fdisk in sysinstall didn't work for me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: Recovering from clobbered boot manager?
Lamont Granquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, whats the easist way to recover from a clobbered boot manager in FreeBSD? I kind of naively assumed that this would be easy to do from an installation CDROM (4.3-RELEASE) but I failed to get it to work. Going Configure-Fdisk in sysinstall didn't work for me. For the basic procedure, see the FAQ. However, one important piece missing from the FAQ is that you may have to use the boot0cfg command to enable LBA booting (this is REQUIRED if your FreeBSD partition is above the 1024-cylinder/8GB limit, assuming your BIOS supports it, and virtually all recent BIOSes do). See the boot0cfg man page for more info. Note that the boot0cfg uses the term, packet, to refer to LBA booting. Among other things, you need to use the boot0cfg option, -o packet. Read the man page. -- Darryl Okahata [EMAIL PROTECTED] DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: AFS for FreeBSD?
At 11:11 AM -0700 10/18/01, Gordon Tetlow wrote: On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Schmalzbauer, Harald wrote: see www.openafs.org. I read that somebody has successfully ported the server. I haven't tried it yet but I hope it's working. AFS is THE solution for many problems. /usr/ports/net/arla is the only *client* that works for FreeBSD. For an AFS *server* check out openafs. I believe there is a porting effort to get the openafs client working on FreeBSD, but I don't know the status of it. BTW, there is a freebsd-afs mailing list. Please subscribe. It would actually be better to go to www.openafs.org and subscribe to the mailing-lists there. They have a list for OpenAFS-port-freebsd , and that gets more traffic than the freebsd-afs mailing list. The freebsd-afs mailing list was created before openafs showed up, and was really intended in getting a transarc client for freebsd. That did not get very far before IBM decided to spin-off openAFS. I'll also say that I am looking forward to openafs clients and servers for freebsd. I realize arla should work as a client, but it would be easier for me to sell FreeBSD with an official openAFS client here at RPI. Right now the openAFS for linux client is one of the things which causes us to use linux for some new servers. ARLA may very well be fine code, but politically it is a harder sell. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Systems Programmer or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rensselaer Polytechnic Instituteor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: Loads on a Web/Shell Server
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I have a shell/web hosting company (4EverMail Hosting Services) and I have a little bit of a problem with the loads on my machine. I am hosting a few IRC servers, eggdrop bots and a few apache websites (mainly my own), and the loads are already at 0.15 and so on. Load averages confuse a lot of people. 0.15 is quite low. On the server I am logged in to: 8:37PM up 205 days, 17:52, 6 users, load averages: 2.44, 2.51, 2.45 Yet the system (old hardware, too) is still very responsive in a shell, requests over the network, etc, the idle process gets 70-80% of the CPU under normal circumstances, and the disk array LED is only on for perhaps half of the time. I seen systems of load 1.0 that are essentially ground to a halt, and systems of loads in the teens that smoke along just fine. I can't remember seeing a UNIX machine crap out with a load of 0.15, though! With a load of 0.15, that means that in the large majority of the time, there are NO processes in the run queue.. which means things are happening about as close to real time as you can get in a multitasking OS. A small percentage of the time, you might have one or two processes in the run queue, which, in most cases, is really nothing at all. The load averages are, at best, a comparative indication of the change in load of one system over time. Unless your system is really unresponsive, you needn't pay much attention to the load averages. If your system IS really unresponsive, make a note of the load average, and see what is eating all of your resources. Hope this helps, - Ryan I last CVSupped on September 25th and cannot understand what is making my system loads go up so high. The only clue that I have is the large ammount of CPU time being taken by the eggdrop bots and a proccess called: root 5 0.0 0.0 00 ?? DL2Oct01 31:08.71 (syncer) Would that be enough to cause the system to have such high loads? Below is a copy of my uname -a: FreeBSD equinox.4evermail.com 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Tue Sep 25 14:36:10 EDT 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/EQUINOX i386 If there are any dmesg bits that you might find useful to look at, please shoot me an e-mail and I will be more than happy to supply them to you. Thanks in advance for all your help. -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message -- Ryan Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator, Accounts SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com #106-380 3120 8th St E - Saskatoon, SK - S7H 0W2 Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-664-1161 Saskatoon Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: dirpref gives massive performance boost
On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 12:32:22PM -0500, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: If it's a UFS, and you're running a new enough kernel, it's getting done. Of course, it can only be smart about stuff written to the disk after you built the new kernel. If your disk is mostly empty, you're cool. If it's pretty full you should back it up, delete everything (newfs is the fastest way) and then restore all your data. Well yes, but I would like to avoid all of this if it is already using dirpref. I currently don't have enough drive space to fully backup my 24gig stripe set. Any directories created after you installed a kernel with the new filesystem layout code will have the more optimized layout. Directories created earlier will have the layout they've always had. Since there's not a switch to turn on/off or test, there's no good way to tell how close to optimal your current disk is. You can force it to be nice by dumping and restoring it. Otherwise, I'd say the create date/time stamp compared against a calendar would give you your best guess. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: dirpref gives massive performance boost
On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 08:26:00PM +0100, Tim Bunce wrote: Can the diprefs code have a useful effect on an individual subtree of a file system if just that tree was deleted and recreated? Sure. Do a rm -rf /usr/ports/* and then re-sup the damn thing. You'll be impressed. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
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Re: serial console
Hans de Hartog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something else you might want to try: put -P in /boot.config and disconnect your keyboard during the BIOS-blabla /boot.config is obsolete No, it isn't obsolete, and it works. And I see no immediate need/plan to make it obsolete. and doesn't work with loader(8). /boot.config is for the boot2 block, not for loader(8). I'd suggest you write the following line into /boot/loader.conf: kernel_options=-h [...] console=comconsole This is meaningful only to the loader itself, AFAIK. This is wrong. If you set console=comconsole, the kernel will use the serial console too. The difference between the two methods, -h in /boot.config and console=comconsole in /boot/loader.conf, is the timing at which the serial console is started. If you put -h in /boot.config, you will get your serial console working all way through the boot2 block, loader(8), and the kernel. If you put console=comconsole in /boot/loader.conf, the serial console won't get any output until loader(8) encounters this statment after it initializes itself and prints the first few lines of opening messages. So, if you want to have the serial console working as early as possible, put -h in /boot.config. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: How does FreeBSD performs in server tasks? [off-topic]
On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Conrado Vardanega wrote: I would like to hear from Athlon-based server owners/admins how does it performs with server tasks. My aim is to find out how good is a Pentium III chip for a server instead a low-cost, high-performance Athlon CPU. I would consider, for evaluation purposes, a (FreeBSD) system running Apache/PHP/mod_ssl and MySQL mainly, because they're pretty sensitive to user-response. So, which are the pros and cons of having a Intel based server or a AMD based server? Support for Intel-based chipsets is likely to be more robust than for the AMD or VIA-based chipsets that exist on Athlon motherboards. As an example, it took awhile for XFree86 4.1.0 to be fixed to run on motherboards with the Irongate chipset (AMD 761 north bridge) when a Radeon QD video board is present. That said, my 1.333 GHz T-bird *flies*. I can build all of userland in around 40 minutes, a kernel in under 5 minutes, and all of XFree86 4.1.0 in about 20 minutes. For reference, I have 256MB of Crucial PC2100 ECC DDR on-board, and my disk is a WD Caviar ATA-66, 5400rpm. I have the write-caching sysctl enabled. Getting back to some more specific info you wanted, the only web app I run that has bearing is Kalendus, and it responds mighty quickly. Add-in topic: how DDR-memory instead SDRAM affects server performance? It *rocks*. For another benchmark, I pulled 110 MFLOPs from this machine with the LINPACK benchmarks. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove bogus before responding.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: cable modem choices
On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Dennis Mathiasen wrote: I haven't been able to locate information on how these things actually work. Apparently the ISP just uses DHCP, but what about any authentication? My ISP expects a certain MAC address. Are the modems themselves all functionally the same? Most manufacturers don't say that they work with UNIX. Is the situation the same as with phone modems v. win modems? No, not usually. You have RG-6 coming in from the pole to the cable modem, and CAT-5 coming out from the cable modem to your NIC. The cable modem doesn't care what OS is on the other end of the patch cable. I'd appreciate any suggestions which one to buy. Thanks. As Doug Barton mentioned, you're better off leasing one from the cable company. The cable modem sitting beside me, for example, is $1000 (so I was told). The lease rate is just built-in to my monthly access charge ($59.95 for 1500K down/500K up). Hook up with dyndns.org and you're good to go. Oh, to minimize bonehead issues with the installer, you might want to boot Winblows for when (s)he shows up, just to placate the cable company, and then boot back into FreeBSD later. Otherwise, just convince them that you know what you're doing, and promise to support yourself. You'll need something like this in /etc/rc.conf: ifconfig_dc0=DHCP (Replace dc0 with the appropriate device for your NIC, e.g., xl0 for 3Com 3C905, fxp0 for Intel Etherexpress, etc.) Now you'll get an address at boot-time. I'm not sure, but if your box is already up when the installer comes, ifconfig dc0 down ifconfig dc0 up (or the equivalent for your NIC) might also do the trick so that you don't have to reboot. I don't actually know, never having tried it. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove bogus before responding.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: dirpref gives massive performance boost
At 10:57 AM -0500 10/18/01, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: Must one supply any other arguments to newfs in order to enable dirpref? A quick look at man newfs didn't make any mention of dirpref. No, it's on by default in kernels that include the new code. Is there a way to check to see if a slice has difpref enabled? Dirpref is not something which is enabled or disabled, not in the same sense as softupdates is enabled. Dirpref is a smarter layout of information in a partition. You need a version of the system which knows HOW to do that smarter layout, and then you just rebuild the partition. There is no switch to turn on and off. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Systems Programmer or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rensselaer Polytechnic Instituteor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: dirpref gives massive performance boost
On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 02:48:50PM +0100, Rasputin wrote: * Doug Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [011018 14:40]: On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 09:43:53PM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 09:20:02PM +0200, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:12:46 -0700 Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KK Hi all, KK KK Just a note to those who have updated to 4.4-STABLE that it's well KK worth doing a backup + newfs + restore on all your UFS volumes. The CAVEAT: insert a tunefs -n enable between newfs and restore, without it the performance improvement is rather less dramatic :) You can happily skip the tunefs step if you just remember to supply the '-U' flag to newfs. Must one supply any other arguments to newfs in order to enable dirpref? A quick look at man newfs didn't make any mention of dirpref. No, it's on by default in kernels that include the new code. Is there a way to check to see if a slice has difpref enabled? -- David W. Chapman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Raintree Network Services, Inc. www.inethouston.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD Committer www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
Re: dirpref gives massive performance boost
Dirpref is not something which is enabled or disabled, not in the same sense as softupdates is enabled. Dirpref is a smarter layout of information in a partition. You need a version of the system which knows HOW to do that smarter layout, and then you just rebuild the partition. There is no switch to turn on and off. I'm not looking to turn if off or on, just to see whether a file system of mine has that capability in it or if I need to newfs it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-stable in the body of the message
