Re: Sendmail 8.12.2 in stable

[Gregory Neil Shapiro]

freebsd> Are we talking weeks?  Months?

You forgot "years".  It will be in before FreeBSD 4.6.  I've started the
process now on my test machine.

freebsd> I'm not looking to nail you to the calendar, but I noticed in
freebsd> -CURRENT things are set up so that lib/libmilter gets built and
freebsd> installed, but this is not the case in -STABLE.  It appears that
freebsd> milter should be available in sendmail 8.11, but it also appears
freebsd> to be pretty different from the 8.12 milter stuff, so maybe it's
freebsd> not even worth trying to make it available until 8.12 hits STABLE?

8.11's libmilter was an FFR (for future release).  It was not a supported
feature as it is in 8.12.

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Re: CDROM sector size on 4.5

[Kenneth D. Merry]

On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 13:11:43 -0500, Normand Leclerc wrote:
> This is a SCSI drive.  I am wondering, why would SCSI be different from
> IDE in that matter?

The drivers are different, and the SCSI driver uses the disk layer.  The
ATAPI cd driver does not.

Please send full dmesg information, including any errors generated when you
try to use 512 byte sectors.

Ken
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RE: CDROM sector size on 4.5

[Normand Leclerc]

This is a SCSI drive.  I am wondering, why would SCSI be different from
IDE in that matter?

Normand Leclerc
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> -Original Message-
> From: Kenneth D. Merry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: March 14, 2002 8:33 PM
> To: Normand Leclerc
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CDROM sector size on 4.5
> 
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 13:28:38 -0500, Normand Leclerc wrote:
> >   I was wondering if the CDROM sector size detection code has
changed.
> > I own a CDRW with a jumper that let me select the sector size (2048
or
> > 512).  It is set to 512 as this is the most convenient way for me to
> > handle it.  Lately, I tried to dump a CD ISO image on my hard drive
but
> > got a sector boundary error.  I had to specify 2048 bytes of sector
size
> > to get dd to work properly.
> >
> >   Is 4.5 different in that matter?
> >
> 
> Is this a SCSI or ATAPI drive?
> 
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EIDE Castlewood orb drive error

[Matthew Reimer]

I get this error the first time after booting that I try to access my 
EIDE Castlewood drive:

ad2: hard error reading fsbn 0 (ad2 bn 0; cn 0 tn 0 sn 0)ad2: DMA 
problem fallback to PIO mode

It works fine, but of course it's slower than it could be. It's done 
this since I first got the drive. I'm running 4.5-STABLE as of about Feb 
9. I have hw.ata.atapi_dma=1 for my CD/DVD drive.

ad0: 58625MB  [119112/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33
ad1: 8223MB  [16708/16/63] at ata0-slave UDMA33
ad2: 2103MB  [4273/16/63] at ata1-master WDMA2
acd0: DVD-ROM  at ata1-slave 
using UDMA 33

Any ideas about how to get it to work in DMA mode?

Matt


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Re: ha!

[Pete French]

> 

Looking for this one I tried "/ms" and got malay instead.
Which is interesting becase now this one

> 

also gives me malay - with stars and stripes :-)

-pcf. [note that my ability to recognise malay is entirely based on
   recognising roadsigns in Brunei, and it might be some other
   language entirely]

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Re: ha!

[Christopher Schulte]

At 11:20 AM 3/15/2002 -0500, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
>>http://www.google.com/bsd
>
>Interesting.They also have
>
>http://www.google.com/linux
>http://www.google.com/mac
>
>I wonder hopw many more of these there are.

http://www.google.com/unclesam
http://www.google.com/microsoft.html

>Chad

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Re: ha!

[Nick Barnes]

This is a "Google Special Search" page.  They have 5 of them:







See 

Nick Barnes
Ravenbrook Limited

At 2002-03-15 16:27:25+, "Jesse Geddis" writes:
> yea, they got a MS one too and some university ones, but the BSD one
> was the only good one =) works too lol. they seem to be a linux shop
> unfortunately. someone needs to go to work on them methinks.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> On Friday, March 15, 2002, at 11:20 , Jesse Geddis wrote:
> 
> > Never knew google had this, lol. I love that little Daemon =)
> >
> > http://www.google.com/bsd
> 
> Interesting.They also have
> 
> http://www.google.com/linux
> http://www.google.com/mac
> 
> I wonder hopw many more of these there are.
> 
> Chad
> 
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RE: ha!

[Jesse Geddis]

yea, they got a MS one too and some university ones, but the BSD one
was the only good one =) works too lol. they seem to be a linux shop
unfortunately. someone needs to go to work on them methinks.

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On Friday, March 15, 2002, at 11:20 , Jesse Geddis wrote:

> Never knew google had this, lol. I love that little Daemon =)
>
> http://www.google.com/bsd

Interesting.They also have

http://www.google.com/linux
http://www.google.com/mac

I wonder hopw many more of these there are.

Chad




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Re: ha!

[Chad Leigh -- Shire . Net LLC]

On Friday, March 15, 2002, at 11:20 , Jesse Geddis wrote:

> Never knew google had this, lol. I love that little Daemon =)
>
> http://www.google.com/bsd

Interesting.They also have

http://www.google.com/linux
http://www.google.com/mac

I wonder hopw many more of these there are.

Chad




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ha!

[Jesse Geddis]

Never knew google had this, lol. I love that little Daemon =)

http://www.google.com/bsd

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Re: device changes

[Rasputin]

> On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Jeffrey J. Libman wrote:
> 
> > i upgraded my web server from fbsd 4.3 to 4.5 (stable):

> > i think there were maybe some /dev changes? i'm seeing log entries like
> > the following:
> > 
> > Mar 12 00:03:18 binnacle /kernel: ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0
> > - resetting
> > Mar 12 00:03:18 binnacle /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. ata0-master:
> > DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable

> > can i get an explanation? and maybe pointer to any action i should be
> > taking?

Well, the obvious question is : does the cable support ATA66?

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HEADS UP: XFree86 4.2.0 going back in the tree

[Will Andrews]

Hi,

It's my intention to commit the following patch:

http://csociety.org/~will/XFree86-4.2.0.5.diff

..by 6pm EST Saturday, March 16, 2002.  It has seen fairly extensive
testing on my part and several volunteers.  I have not put it
through bento's 4-exp tree, and I do not intend to due to the
fact that I believe the demand for this upgrade will exceed the
help we would get from such an endeavor.  Also, I have been
pressured by many people on portmgr and re to commit the diffs so
we can prepare for 5.0-DP1 with the latest version of XFree86.
Not to mention the many other emails I have received, either via
private mail or ports@ or portmgr@ or [EMAIL PROTECTED], that
indicate the masses want the product now...  :-)

The commit will be done in stages:
1) bsd.port.mk:
+ Changes to handle html manpages automatically.
+ Add --x-[libraries,includes]=${X11BASE}/...
  automatically to CONFIGURE_ARGS if
  GNU_CONFIGURE is defined.
2) XFree86 miniports will be upgraded to 4.2.0:
+ devel/imake-4
+ x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi
+ x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font75dpi
+ x11-fonts/XFree86-4-fontCyrillic
+ x11-fonts/XFree86-4-fontDefaultBitmaps
+ x11-fonts/XFree86-4-fontScalable
+ x11-servers/XFree86-4-FontServer
+ x11-servers/XFree86-4-NestServer
+ x11-servers/XFree86-4-PrintServer
+ x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server
+ x11-servers/XFree86-4-VirtualFramebufferServer
+ x11/XFree86-4-clients
+ x11/XFree86-4-documents
+ x11/XFree86-4-libraries
+ x11/XFree86-4-manuals
3) x11/XFree86-4 megaport will be converted to a metaport.
+ Will depend on the following:
- imake-4
- XFree86-4-libraries
- XFree86-4-clients
- XFree86-4-documents
- XFree86-4-font100dpi
- XFree86-4-font75dpi
- XFree86-4-fontDefaultBitmaps
- XFree86-4-fontScalable
- XFree86-4-FontServer
- XFree86-4-Server
4) Will contain one major change over the versions
   submitted by FUJISHIMA-san and Taguchi-san:
+ Wraphelp.c merged into imake-4 and
  XFree86-4-libraries by default.
- Approved by core -- I requested
  permission to commit this so Xdmcp
  supported XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 by
  default.

Modifications before the commit time will be accepted.  Please
remember to remove x11/XFree86-4/patch* x11/XFree86-4/scripts/configure 
and add http://csociety.org/~will/patch-z46 to XFree86-4-libraries
before you try to use my patch.

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Re: device changes

[Tenebrae]

On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Jeffrey J. Libman wrote:

> i upgraded my web server from fbsd 4.3 to 4.5 (stable):
> 
> FreeBSD binnacle.wantabe.com 4.5-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE-p2 #0: Sat
> Mar 9 20:36:33 CST 2002
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/BINNACLE  i386
> 
> i think there were maybe some /dev changes? i'm seeing log entries like
> the following:
> 
> Mar 12 00:03:18 binnacle /kernel: ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0
> - resetting
> Mar 12 00:03:18 binnacle /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. ata0-master:
> DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable
> 
> 
> can i get an explanation? and maybe pointer to any action i should be
> taking?
> 
> thanks in advance.

I've been hoping for an explanation for this for ages.
My log entry is slightly different:

Mar 10 16:49:05 steeltoe /kernel: ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
Mar 10 16:49:05 steeltoe /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done

I get these once or twice a week and have for as far back as I keep log
files (last July).
(I'm still running 4.3-STABLE because I'm lazy like that - last updated
May 17th of last year.)
It was suggested that maybe my hard drive cables are longer than 18" but
this is not the case.
-Tenebrae.



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CVS, was: Re:

[Holger Kipp]

Denis Holmes wrote:
> 
> star-one[34](~/Mail)->grep -c '^From ' cvs
> 3818
> star-one[35](~/Mail)->ls -l cvs
> -rw---  1 dholmes  user  13861315 Mar 14 10:15 cvs
> 
> In 25 days, that's 150 messages (and over .5 meg) per day.  While good
> information to have, it's practically a full-time job to read all of
> these; the number of messages rivals the questions list.  It also
> normally tells you what was done (in extremely general terms), not what
> is still to come and what dependency relationships exist.

I learned a lot reading those - after some weeks you'll learn to separate
the important from the less important messages ;-)

Hint: look at an original message and usually the first two replies only,
  if the original poster described a problem you might encounter ;-)

o Usually one can 'ignore' "makeworld broken signal 11" messages.
o Important are the HEADS UP ones, and reading the /usr/src/UPDATING.

> Not to mention the problems of then knowing which changes have hit one's
> chosen mirror, and whether it happens to be in the middle of receiving
> a major commit, with commits happening round the clock.  It seems to
> me that pretty much all one can do is pull an update and hope for the
> best, and repeat until it works.

Cvsup twice with about 1-5 minutes in between. If nothing changed, you're 
usually on the sure side that you didn't cvsup in the middle of a commit.

So far this gave me next to no trouble during the last 6-12 months at least.

> I'm new to tracking -stable and so would gladly welcome corrections
> and suggestions, but this is the impression I've been getting from the
> mail discussions.

The first impression is of course that there are lots of things that don't
work (due to the amount of messages), but usually these are only minor bugs
where only some people with matching hardware/combinations have real problems.

Apart from that, you can always reboot your latest known working kernel if 
you so wish (have a look at the handbook, make a copy of the known working
kernel - even though the default make installkernel will make a copy of the
last kernel - and of the modules-directory).
 
> [Dare I mention that updated ports are only officially supported on
> -stable and -current, implying that one must track an update path in
> order to use applications since previous versions of dist files can
> disappear rather quickly?]

You can get a DVD-release with _most_ distfiles from FreeBSD Services.

Most of the usually needed distfiles / packages are on the standard CD-Sets
(a purchase of one of those will also help FreeBSD  ;-) ).

http://www.freebsdmall.com/ The 'Original'
http://www.freebsdservices.co.uk/   DVD-Distribution
http://www.bsdmall.com/ DN-Distribution

Basically Daemonnews- and FreeBSDmall-Distributions are the same.



Just curious:
How did you manage to get your mail sent without any header-information?

Regards,
Holger

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