Re: freebsd test matrix
Chris BeHanna wrote: > > I'm currently doing QA on a (very) large software project, and all > of those things are important. Some of the testing uses existing > industry test suites and benchmarking tools, and some of it (much of > it) is custom. Being able to compile, install, and boot is just the > tip of the iceberg. > I agree, it is only the top of it. I have an idea how to do this for a lot of programms, but no one how to do it with the more system specific. Does anyone know how commercial os vendors do it? Bye Oliver To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: RFC: BSD network stack virtualization
Isn't this something that can overcome the current shortcomings of jail(2) ? (the no other stacks/no raw sockets problem) - Ruben -- ,-_ .. /() ) | Ruben van Staveren http://ruben.is.verweg.com/ |_o (__ ( |Men are from Mars. Women are from Venus. Computers are from hell| #> =/ () `' 4 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
loadable modules
Howdy, Using FreeBSD 4.7 Stable I have been playing with the loadable modules and ran into an issue with the xl.ko driver. For some reason if I have the miibus.ko module loaded, when the loader code attempts to load the xl driver, the loader will determine that the xl driver needs the miibuss driver, try to load the miibus driver, and will fail saying that it couldn't load the miibus driver. Should the miibus.ko driver not be in the loader.conf file? Is this the expected behavior? Thanks, Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: Endless loop installing port
>From: Michael Bretterklieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Endless loop installing port > >Hi, > >I have an endless loop If I install a port, the system produces hundreds of >make CHILD_DEPENDS=yes PARENT_CHECKED= package-depend . >during registering of the package. > >If found that If I remove these entries from make.conf >USE_QT_VER=3 >USE_KDELIBS_VER= 3 >USE_KDEBASE_VER= 3 >the installation of a port works ok. Known problem. The USE_ variables should not be set outside the port's own Makefile. I think this is a design flaw, and at least a convention that "private" vars are lowercase or Firstcapped would help. That's as may be, it's still a frog. Juli Mallett committed a patch of mine to make(1) that forcibly stops recursion after 500 children of children of ... even when pmake is used in a distributed fashion. It should be MFC'd to stable any time now. -- Alan Eldridge Unix/C(++) IT Pro, 20 yrs, seeking new employment. (http://wwweasel.geeksrus.net/~alane/resume.txt) KDE, KDE-FreeBSD Teams (http://www.kde.org, http://freebsd.kde.org/) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: freebsd test matrix
On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, David Kleiner wrote: > On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 11:03:21PM +0200, Fischer, Oliver wrote: > > Mike Hoskins wrote: > > >Hmm, I wonder if something similar is used or was developed for internal > > >QA? Anyone? It seems like there should at least be a "best practice" for > > >testing systems... How do we currently make a -RELEASE with confidence? > > >Of course you can't verify a given release builds on every platform, but > > >is there an automated means of verifying system compoents work and > > >interoperate properly on a given test system or set of systems? > > > > http://martinfowler.com/articles/continuousIntegration.html > > In a commercial world, there is a lot of pre-integration QA testing > going on - question is, where do you start? What test harness you > want to use? Which test suites? Are you interested in standards > (posix and such), ABI, stress testing, library testing, fs testing, > interoperability and so on? All of the above, in bite-sized, doable chunks. I'm currently doing QA on a (very) large software project, and all of those things are important. Some of the testing uses existing industry test suites and benchmarking tools, and some of it (much of it) is custom. Being able to compile, install, and boot is just the tip of the iceberg. -- Chris BeHanna http://www.pennasoft.com Principal Consultant PennaSoft Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: rp driver + multiple cards = bad
> But on connecting, I get this unpleasant result on both cards: > > --- > FreeiSD/i386 (synapse.b(gcheese.com) (ttyd0) > > : gi > SD/i386 (synapse.b(gcheese.com) (ttyd0) > > : gi > --- > I too am getting corruption on the nrp driver for RX data (at 115,200). TX works fine, no corruption that I could see. I had to go back to the rp driver which works perfectly for me right now. Hopefully someone can sort the issue with the nrp driver from -CURRENT. --Robert To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
HEADSUP, sorta: if_xl changes
Just so everyone knows, I've MFC'd a bunch of changes to the if_xl driver in the last few days. Most of these changes will have no functional effect, and serve merely to synchronize the -current and -stable versions of the driver. However, if your xl nic suddenly stops working, but it worked fine last week, _please_ alert me so that I can investigate exactly what went wrong. Thanks, Mike "Silby" Silbersack To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: Brazil time zone file sets DST incorrectly
On 2002-Oct-17 11:02:34 +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thursday, 17 October 2002 at 9:35:40 +1000, Christopher Vance wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 04:31:57PM -0300, Vitor de Matos Carvalho wrote: >>> Detected the DST problem, because the Security Team did not notify? I fail to see how either FreeBSD-Core or the FreeBSD Security team can be held responsible for failing to notify people of the implications of decisions make by the Brazilian parliament. It might have been preferable if these time changes were imported into FreeBSD earlier, but IMHO, Vitor needs to take more responsibility for the correct operation of systems under his control. If correct DST transitions are important to you and you are aware that the official DST rules covering your system have changed recently, you should verify that the changes have been installed (eg using zdump). I notice that the Brazilian zoneinfo rules include the comment: # For dates after mid-2002, the following rules are guesses # and are quite possibly wrong, but are more likely than no DST at all. This suggests that if Brazilian time is important to you, you should independently verify that the rules are correct. >Note that these changes are not the same as Vitor's, and they contain >reasoning we haven't seen before. About the only thing that hasn't >happened is closing the PR. I'll see about getting that done. Shouldn't this wait until the updates are MFC'd. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: Brazil time zone file sets DST incorrectly
On Thursday, 17 October 2002 at 9:35:40 +1000, Christopher Vance wrote: > On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 04:31:57PM -0300, Vitor de Matos Carvalho wrote: >> Detected the DST problem, because the Security Team did not notify? It will >> be that this error for being of did not enteresse of administrators of >> servers who twirl in the E.U.A do not deserve that he is notified? It did >> not want that it made mention to my name, nor that patch was used mine, only >> that was communicated to all of the occurrence. The correction already was >> made in default branch, now goes to wait for more how much time it goes for >> RELENG_4 > > The timezone code, and more particularly the tables used to drive it, > comes from somewhere else. You were told who and where to send your > correction. Did you do this? Yes, he did, several times. The issue here is that we don't maintain our own time zone files (time for non-FreeBSD users should be the same as time for FreeBSD users). Instead, we import the time zone files from an external source. This was done yesterday: --- southamerica4 Apr 2002 18:16:19 - 1.19 +++ southamerica16 Oct 2002 01:55:48 - 1.20 @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ -# @(#)southamerica 7.43 +# @(#)southamerica 7.45 # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better, # go ahead and edit the file (and please send any changes to @@ -174,7 +174,7 @@ # Shanks also makes the following claims, which we haven't verified: # - Formosa switched to -3:00 on 1991-01-07. # - La Rioja and San Juan switched to -4:00 on 1991-03-01 -# and then to 03:00 on 1991-05-07. +# and then to -3:00 on 1991-05-07. # - Misiones switched to -3:00 on 1990-12-29. # - Chaco switched to -3:00 on 1991-01-04. # - San Luis switched to -4:00 on 1990-03-14, then to -3:00 on 1990-10-15, @@ -292,11 +292,28 @@ # http://pcdsh01.on.br/Fusbr.htm # http://pcdsh01.on.br/Fusbrhv.htm -# From Paul Eggert (2000-10-02): -# The official decrees referenced below are taken from +# From Celso Doria via David Madeo (2002-10-09): +# The reason for the delay this year has to do with elections in Brazil. +# +# Unlike in the United States, elections in Brazil are 100% computerized and +# the results are known almost immediately. Yesterday, it was the first +# round of the elections when 115 million Brazilians voted for President, +# Governor, Senators, Federal Deputies, and State Deputies. Nobody is +# counting (or re-counting) votes anymore and we know there will be a second +# round for the Presidency and also for some Governors. The 2nd round will +# take place on October 27th. +# +# The reason why the DST will only begin November 3rd is that the thousands +# of electoral machines used cannot have their time changed, and since the +# Constitution says the elections must begin at 8:00 AM and end at 5:00 PM, +# the Government decided to postpone DST, instead of changing the Constitution +# (maybe, for the next elections, it will be possible to change the clock)... + +# From Paul Eggert (2002-10-10): +# The official decrees referenced below are mostly taken from # http://pcdsh01.on.br/DecHV.html";> # Decretos sobre o Horario de Verao no Brasil -# (1999-10-04, in Portuguese). +# (2001-09-20, in Portuguese). # The official site for all decrees, including those not related to time, is # http://www.presidencia.gov.br/CCIVIL/decreto/principal_ano.htm";> # Presidencia da Republica, Subchefia para Assuntos Juridicos, Decretos @@ -421,15 +438,18 @@ # repeals DST in SE, AL, PB, RN, CE, PI and MA, effective 2000-10-22 00:00. # Decree http://pcdsh01.on.br/figuras/HV3916.gif";>3,916 # (2001-09-13) reestablishes DST in AL, CE, MA, PB, PE, PI, RN, SE. +Rule Brazil 20002001- Oct Sun>=8 0:00 1:00S +Rule Brazil 2001max - Feb Sun>=15 0:00 0 - +# Decree 4,399 (2002-10-01) repeals DST in AL, CE, MA, PB, PE, PI, RN, SE. +# http://www.presidencia.gov.br/CCIVIL/decreto/2002/D4399.htm";> +Rule Brazil 2002only- Nov 3 0:00 1:00S # +Rule Brazil 2003max - Oct Sun>=8 0:00 1:00S # The latest decree listed above says that the following states observe DST: -# AL, BA, CE, DF, ES, GO, MA, MG, MS, MT, -# PB, PE, PI, PR, RJ, RN, RS, SC, SE, SP, TO. +# BA, DF, ES, GO, MG, MS, MT, PR, RJ, RS, SC, SP, TO. Note that these changes are not the same as Vitor's, and they contain reasoning we haven't seen before. About the only thing that hasn't happened is closing the PR. I'll see about getting that done. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: Endless loop installing port
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 10:30:09PM +0200, Michael Bretterklieber wrote: > >Correct..the above options are not user-settable, and are for internal > >use only within ports. > > > aha. Now (FreeBSD 4.7) I don't find this params anymore in > defaults/make.conf, but it seems that in an earlier version of FreeBSD I > found there these params. Nope, they've never been in defaults/make.conf, nor have they ever been user-configurable options. Kris msg50542/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: video out <-- need help
On Thu, 2002-10-17 at 07:30, Mr. Darren wrote: > Does anyone know of a way to use TV-out for FreeBSD > under the terms that it does not interfear or use the > main video card display. I require a completely > separate 'out'. Name any hardware and I will buy it. > Any information will be helpfull. You can buy a VGA to TV converter for not too much money which will work with any video card and OS. (Around AU$150 for one that does 1024x768) The only caveat being that you have to choose an acceptable refresh rate and resolution for the device to work properly. This limitation exists on normal video cards which have tv out (well usually.. some can have two output devices like ATI but they don't do TV out under FreeBSD). AFAIK unless you have a laptop which has a hotkey for changing output device (and hence the tv out is controlled by the BIOS) you can't do tv out with fbsd (excluding the above mentioned solution) -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 9A8C 569F 685A D928 5140 AE4B 319B 41F4 5D17 FDD5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: freebsd test matrix
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 11:03:21PM +0200, Fischer, Oliver wrote: > Mike Hoskins wrote: > >Hmm, I wonder if something similar is used or was developed for internal > >QA? Anyone? It seems like there should at least be a "best practice" for > >testing systems... How do we currently make a -RELEASE with confidence? > >Of course you can't verify a given release builds on every platform, but > >is there an automated means of verifying system compoents work and > >interoperate properly on a given test system or set of systems? > > > http://martinfowler.com/articles/continuousIntegration.html > > > > Hi, In a commercial world, there is a lot of pre-integration QA testing going on - question is, where do you start? What test harness you want to use? Which test suites? Are you interested in standards (posix and such), ABI, stress testing, library testing, fs testing, interoperability and so on? Just my 2 cents, David To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
