BOOTMFS image too big

2003-03-30 Thread Kent Hauser
I tried building a "release" ISO image today, but it failed because it 
couldn't build the boot floppies.

Tail end of the build process (with an `ls' and `du' thown in).

Is this known?

Kent


linking BOOTMFS
   textdata bss dec hex filename
2650861  209180  210260 3070301  2ed95d BOOTMFS
--
>>> Kernel build for BOOTMFS completed on Mon Mar 31 05:23:27 GMT 2003
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cd /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BOOTMFS;  MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj  MACHINE_ARCH=i386  
MACHINE=i386  OBJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec  
PERL5LIB=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503  
GROFF_BIN_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin  
GROFF_FONT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/share/groff_font  
GROFF_TMAC_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/share/tmac make KERNEL=BOOTMFS reinstall
install -m 555 -o root -g wheel -fschg  BOOTMFS /R/stage/kernels/BOOTMFS
mv /R/stage/kernels/BOOTMFS /R/stage/image.kern/kernel
Setting up /boot directory for kern floppy
dload=0x20 dsize=0x25000 isize=0x25000 entry=0x20 nsize=0x11ae9
/R/stage/image.kern/kernel:  53.6% -- replaced with /R/stage/image.kern/kernel.gz
sh -e /usr/src/release/scripts/doFS.sh /R/stage/floppies/kern.flp  /R/stage /mnt 1440 
/R/stage/image.kern  8 fd1440
Warning: Block size restricts cylinders per group to 6.
Warning: 1216 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated
/dev/rvnn0c:2880 sectors in 1 cylinders of 1 tracks, 4096 sectors
1.4MB in 1 cyl groups (6 c/g, 12.00MB/g, 32 i/g)
super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at:
 32
cpio: write error: No space left on device
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/release.
*** Error code 1

.

chapel-hill# ls -l R/stage/image.kern
total 1330
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Mar 30 19:23 boot
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1339861 Mar 30 19:23 kernel.gz
chapel-hill# du R/stage/image.kern
88  R/stage/image.kern/boot
1418R/stage/image.kern

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Re: Status of ATA tagging in Stable

2003-03-30 Thread Steve Watt
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Kevin Oberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have a P3 system running STABLE built on March 7. I installed a new
>IBM DTLA disk drive and was distressed at its slowness, so I tried
>turning on tagging to see if that would help. It seemed to, until...
>
>3 AM when my periodic tasks started running. The system lost all disk
>access and logged lots of errors (a few of which I added to the end of
>this message).

This combination worked beautifully until the ATA MFC just after 4.5,
and it has since been declared that those IBM drives don't do tagging
correctly.  Since I've got a semi-production server with the DTLAs
in it, I gave up on tagging, just using UDMA, it's good enough.

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Re: vinum performance

2003-03-30 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Sunday, 30 March 2003 at 18:10:07 +0200, Dag-Erling Smrgrav wrote:
> Lukas Ertl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I'm currently testing with prime stripe sizes, but it doesn't seem to
>> help. I additionally added "options AHC_ALLOW_MEMIO" to the kernel, and it
>> has raised write performance in the single-disk case (although I'm not
>> happy with that one either; I expected a disk on a U160 controller to pump
>> out more than ~65MB/s).
>
> Does the data sheet for your disk indicate that it can in fact write
> much faster than that?  The speed at which data is actually written
> to the media is much lower than the bus speed - the bus speed *has*
> to be higher to accomodate multiple devices.

You're touching on one of the real issues here.  For optimum
transfers, a plex needs large stripes.  If you're only doing one
transfer at a time (like bonnie does), you'll just pick on individual
disks alternately, so the performance can't be much better than a
single disk.  Do a large number of simultaneous transfers and it will
be a different story.

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Re: vinum performance

2003-03-30 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Sunday, 30 March 2003 at 16:30:17 +0200, Dag-Erling Smrgrav wrote:
> Anti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> try benchmarking ccd as well to see how it compares? and try some big stripe
>> sizes (4093, 8191, 12281)?
>
> I believe Greg showed in his USENIX paper on Vinum that large stripe
> sizes aren't preferable to small ones.  I may misremember though.

You misremember.  I said that large stripe sizes *are* preferable.

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Re: vinum performance

2003-03-30 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Sunday, 30 March 2003 at 14:08:24 +0200, Dag-Erling Smrgrav wrote:
> Lukas Ertl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Anyone has an idea what's going wrong here? (Apart from me doing bullsh*t
>> benchmarking :-) .)
>
> Just out of curiosity, try again with prime stripe sizes (31, 61, 127,
> 257, 509) or at least odd ones (31, 63, 127, 255, 511).

If you're going to do this kind of test, make sure it's a multiple of
the UFS block size, but not a power of 2.

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Re: vinum performance

2003-03-30 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Lukas Ertl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sun, 30 Mar 2003, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> > Does the data sheet for your disk indicate that it can in fact write
> > much faster than that?
> Well, the HP/Compaq webpages are full of marketing speech wrt that, but
> since these disks are U320 disks, they should perform better I think.

Check the data sheet.  I *strongly* doubt your disks have an internal
transfer speed much higher than 65 MB/s.  The external transfer speed
has nothing to do with it, it only controls how fast you can fill the
disk's cache and free the bus for other transactions to other devices.

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Re: vinum performance

2003-03-30 Thread Lukas Ertl
On Sun, 30 Mar 2003, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:

> Lukas Ertl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I'm currently testing with prime stripe sizes, but it doesn't seem to
> > help. I additionally added "options AHC_ALLOW_MEMIO" to the kernel, and it
> > has raised write performance in the single-disk case (although I'm not
> > happy with that one either; I expected a disk on a U160 controller to pump
> > out more than ~65MB/s).
>
> Does the data sheet for your disk indicate that it can in fact write
> much faster than that?

Well, the HP/Compaq webpages are full of marketing speech wrt that, but
since these disks are U320 disks, they should perform better I think.

> The speed at which data is actually written to the media is much lower
> than the bus speed - the bus speed *has* to be higher to accomodate
> multiple devices.

Ok, that's reasonable.

best regards,
le

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Re: vinum performance

2003-03-30 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Lukas Ertl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm currently testing with prime stripe sizes, but it doesn't seem to
> help. I additionally added "options AHC_ALLOW_MEMIO" to the kernel, and it
> has raised write performance in the single-disk case (although I'm not
> happy with that one either; I expected a disk on a U160 controller to pump
> out more than ~65MB/s).

Does the data sheet for your disk indicate that it can in fact write
much faster than that?  The speed at which data is actually written to
the media is much lower than the bus speed - the bus speed *has* to be
higher to accomodate multiple devices.

For instance, the "internal formatted transfer rate" for a recent 73GB
Seagate Cheetah varies between 38.4 and 63.9 MB/s (depending on how
far out from the spindle you're writing).  You won't see higher
average transfer speeds than that unless the data you're writing fits
entirely within the disk's on-board cache.

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Re: vinum performance

2003-03-30 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Lukas Ertl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Anyone has an idea what's going wrong here? (Apart from me doing bullsh*t
> benchmarking :-) .)

Just out of curiosity, try again with prime stripe sizes (31, 61, 127,
257, 509) or at least odd ones (31, 63, 127, 255, 511).

DES
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