utf-8 support in libc?
Reading thru one of the postgres mailing lists regarding which character encoding to use for a database, someone chimed in and claimed this: Umm, you should choose an encoding supported by your platform and the locales you use. For example, UTF-8 is a bad choice on *BSD because there is no collation support for UTF-8 on those platforms. On Linux/Glibc UTF-8 is well supported but you need to make sure the locale you initdb with is a UTF-8 locale. By and large postgres correctly autodetects the encoding from the locale. Is this an accurate claim for FreeBSD? I need to have a UTF-8 encoded database in an upcoming project, and performance is always a concern. Thanks. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: utf-8 support in libc?
If you make sure that your data goes into the database in a binary safe form (look for escape methods supplied by your favourite programming language) it doesn't matter how the database is encoded, because you will always get the data back the way you put it in. Vivek Khera wrote: Reading thru one of the postgres mailing lists regarding which character encoding to use for a database, someone chimed in and claimed this: Umm, you should choose an encoding supported by your platform and the locales you use. For example, UTF-8 is a bad choice on *BSD because there is no collation support for UTF-8 on those platforms. On Linux/Glibc UTF-8 is well supported but you need to make sure the locale you initdb with is a UTF-8 locale. By and large postgres correctly autodetects the encoding from the locale. Is this an accurate claim for FreeBSD? I need to have a UTF-8 encoded database in an upcoming project, and performance is always a concern. Thanks. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: utf-8 support in libc?
On Mar 20, 2006, at 12:16 PM, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: If you make sure that your data goes into the database in a binary safe form (look for escape methods supplied by your favourite programming language) it doesn't matter how the database is encoded, because you will always get the data back the way you put it in. I expect that to happen. What I'm more curious about is the collating speed. Ie, how fast are the sorting and string comparison functions. The clam here is that in *BSD these are somehow not fast. I'm not sure if that is a BSD issue or a Postgres issue for not taking advantage of the BSD functions properly. Vivek Khera wrote: Reading thru one of the postgres mailing lists regarding which character encoding to use for a database, someone chimed in and claimed this: Umm, you should choose an encoding supported by your platform and the locales you use. For example, UTF-8 is a bad choice on *BSD because there is no collation support for UTF-8 on those platforms. On Linux/Glibc UTF-8 is well supported but you need to make sure the locale you initdb with is a UTF-8 locale. By and large postgres correctly autodetects the encoding from the locale. Is this an accurate claim for FreeBSD? I need to have a UTF-8 encoded database in an upcoming project, and performance is always a concern. Thanks. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: utf-8 support in libc?
On Mar 20, 2006, at 12:21 , Vivek Khera wrote: I expect that to happen. What I'm more curious about is the collating speed. Ie, how fast are the sorting and string comparison functions. The clam here is that in *BSD these are somehow not fast. I'm not sure if that is a BSD issue or a Postgres issue for not taking advantage of the BSD functions properly. I don't think that's the issue, so much as that FreeBSD *doesn't support* UTF-8 collation so the database has to use its own (possibly slower than platform-optimized) collation libraries. (en_US.UTF-8/LC_COLLATE is symlinked to a US-ASCII collation sequence which is identical to binary. This is incorrect for UTF-8; there're all kinds of strange things that need to be done to sort UTF-8 properly.) -- brandon s. allbery [linux,solaris,freebsd,perl] [EMAIL PROTECTED] system administrator [openafs,heimdal,too many hats] [EMAIL PROTECTED] electrical and computer engineering, carnegie mellon university KF8NH ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD box dropping packets
Dear All, I have a FreeBSD box running 5.4-RELEASE-p8. Two interfaces: fxp0 - internet, SKA4 internal interface fxp0: Intel 82559 Pro/100 Ethernet bge0 - internal with 30 vlans on it, old bge Gigabit 64/32 PCI-2.1 adapter. bge0: Altima AC1002 Gigabit Ethernet, ASIC rev. 0x105 Firewall is pf with about 5000 rules. A week ago it was working just properly, but after adding more RAM (2GB additional RAM, and i do not thing that this is the reason of the problem) it starts to drop large packets. And the larger packet is - the more packets being droped, some of the does not appears to be incoming on bge interface, some of them being lost in between bge0 and fxp0 and some of them passing through. On the test with 1500 byte packets it looses about 40% (with 1400 it is 36%, with 512 byte packets it is 19%, with 256 byte packets it is 0). And strange thing. When i'm pinging with large packets from external host (at the same IP network and connected to the same switch) - it looses packets exactly the same way, but when i'm pinging from this host itself the others - no looses appears at all. So, looks like the interface sending packets just properly, but having trouble receivivng packets. System load is almost 0% (1-5% in long term), sometimes 50% (sort term load, like mail antispam filter or antivirus). But it is 4CPU Pentium-III XEON, this should not be a problem and it was not a problem. Does someone have any ideas? Best regards, Anton Nikiforov smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
rpc.lockd fails to run on server-only config
I've raised this before but I haven't tested it recently. With a NFS server-only kernel built from 6.1-pre cvsupped today, rpc.lockd still refuses to run with .. rpc.lockd: open: nfslock: No such file or directory .. appearing in /var/log/messages. nfslock obviously refers to /dev/nfslock which is (presently) not created unless the NFS client module is also loaded :-( Michael smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Urgent FreeBSD Boot question!
Dear friends: I decided to go out and buy the latest issue of Linux Format with the FreeBSD 6 CD. I am very glad I did. FreeBSD is tough to install, but after spending several hours I finally succeeded in doing a perfect installation. ONE BIG PROBLEM: When I removed the CD and rebooted, I got into my Windows XP (I have two separate disks, one for Windows, one of FreeBSD). There was no way to get into FreeBSD. Naturally, I went into my BIOS and changed the boot sequence from CD to Hard Drive. That only caused my system to boot into Windows XP. I read the instructions about the FreeBSD Boot Manager. It said clearly that it should allow switching from one OS to another. But I did not see any configuration for that. How, may I ask, do I do this while installing FreeBSD? How do I change this configuration to guarantee that all my work won't go down the toilet and that when I reboot, I will see Lilo or whatever as a boot manager that will allow me to select either FreeBSD or Windows? I am looking forward to solving this and then to actually seeing FreeBSD for the first time. Thank you so much in advance. Benjamin ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question! -- Addendum
Dear friends: I have an old but very reliable Dell Dimension 8200 that's 6 years old. It does not have a boot option for both of my separate hard disks. The only BOOT options are: floppy, CD or hard drive. That's why I need the boot manager solution. Thank you again. Benjamin ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question! -- Addendum
Dear friends: I have an old but very reliable Dell Dimension 8200 that's 6 years old. It does not have a boot option for both of my separate hard disks. The only BOOT options are: floppy, CD or hard drive. That's why I need the boot manager solution. Thank you again. Benjamin ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question!
At 04:43 PM 20/03/2006, Benjamin Sher wrote: I read the instructions about the FreeBSD Boot Manager. It said clearly that it should allow switching from one OS to another. But I did not see any configuration for that. How, may I ask, do I do this while installing FreeBSD? Google around for Windows xp dual boot freebsd and then have a look at http://bsdwiki.com/wiki/How_to_use_the_WinXP_loader_to_boot_FreeBSD Also, you should post questions like this to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list, not to freebsd-stable. ---Mike ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question!
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:43:25 -0500 From: Benjamin Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear friends: I decided to go out and buy the latest issue of Linux Format with the FreeBSD 6 CD. I am very glad I did. FreeBSD is tough to install, but after spending several hours I finally succeeded in doing a perfect installation. ONE BIG PROBLEM: When I removed the CD and rebooted, I got into my Windows XP (I have two separate disks, one for Windows, one of FreeBSD). There was no way to get into FreeBSD. Naturally, I went into my BIOS and changed the boot sequence from CD to Hard Drive. That only caused my system to boot into Windows XP. I read the instructions about the FreeBSD Boot Manager. It said clearly that it should allow switching from one OS to another. But I did not see any configuration for that. How, may I ask, do I do this while installing FreeBSD? How do I change this configuration to guarantee that all my work won't go down the toilet and that when I reboot, I will see Lilo or whatever as a boot manager that will allow me to select either FreeBSD or Windows? I am looking forward to solving this and then to actually seeing FreeBSD for the first time. This is really more appropriate to questions, but I'll make some suggestions that might get you going. Just to clarify, this assumes that you have 2 physical disk drives, one containing Windows and one containing FreeBSD and that Windows is installed on the first drive and FreeBSD on the second. When you installed FreeBSD, you installed the FreeBSD boot Manager on the second hard drive, but the bootstrap on the first drive still has the standard MBR. As a result, it simply boots Windows. There are several solutions available. The easiest is to just put the FreeBSD boot manager on the first drive. If you do this, you will get a prompt when you boot that looks like: F1 DOS F5 Other Disk At this point, you can press either F1 for Windows and F5 to boot the next disk. Pressing F5 will give you F1 FreeBSD F5 Other Disk At this point, you can press F1 to boot FreeBSD or F5 to go back to the first disk. The FreeBSD Boot Manager is smart in that it remembers a boot and defaults to that boot on the next bootstrap operation. To write the MBR on the first disk, just boot the CD and select the holographic shell. At that point, enter the command: boot0cfg -B ad0 That should do the trick. There are several other ways to do this, but this is the first one I thought of for your situation. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +1 510 486-8634 ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question!
Dear Kevin: Sounds great! Just what I need. One question before I proceed: what is the holographic shell. Please be specific and provide step-by-step instructions. I am a bit nervous about this kind of brain surgery. Thank you again. Benjamin To write the MBR on the first disk, just boot the CD and select the holographic shell. At that point, enter the command: boot0cfg -B ad0 That should do the trick. There are several other ways to do this, but this is the first one I thought of for your situation. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question!
Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear Kevin: Sounds great! Just what I need. One question before I proceed: what is the holographic shell. Please be specific and provide step-by-step instructions. I am a bit nervous about this kind of brain surgery. Thank you again. Benjamin To write the MBR on the first disk, just boot the CD and select the holographic shell. At that point, enter the command: boot0cfg -B ad0 That should do the trick. There are several other ways to do this, but this is the first one I thought of for your situation. Or go to http://gag.sourceforge.net, download that boot manager and install it via floppydisk or cd, it's easy and effective. You can't do anything wrong with that one. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question!
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:44:28 -0500 From: Benjamin Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Kevin: Sounds great! Just what I need. One question before I proceed: what is the holographic shell. Please be specific and provide step-by-step instructions. I am a bit nervous about this kind of brain surgery. Thank you again. Benjamin To write the MBR on the first disk, just boot the CD and select the holographic shell. At that point, enter the command: boot0cfg -B ad0 That should do the trick. There are several other ways to do this, but this is the first one I thought of for your situation. Oops! I really meant the live file system. It is available on the FreeBSD installation CD. It gives you a shell on the system. Boot the installation CD Select Fixit Select 2 CDROM/DVD At the prompt, enter the boot0cfg command. Type exit to return to sysinstall Exit sysinstall to reboot the system -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +1 510 486-8634 ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with 16-in-1 card reader
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Damian Gerow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : Thus spake Alex Dupre ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [11/03/06 22:18]: : : This problem has been discussed many times on the lists. In order to : : update devfs you can use: : : : : cat /dev/null /dev/daX : : : : I seem to remember another method using dd. : : : : I hope this helps. : : : : The 'cat' way works, thanks. Perhaps we should add this info somewhere : : in a man page. : : Really? Isn't there a nicer way to do this? i.e. Doesn't the card reader : (or other USB-connected devices) notify that a disk/card/whatever has been : removed or inserted? There's no notification. Warner ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Urgent FreeBSD Boot question! -- Almost there!
Dear Kevin: You sure know your stuff, Kevin. No question about it. I am almost there. The only problem is that when I boot up to the new FreeBSD system (CD unselected and hardrive selected in boot sequence), I get a kind of login that says: FreeBS/i386 boot Default: 1: ad (1,a) default No /boot/kernel/kernel Then Default: 1: ad(1,a)/ boot/kernel/kernel boot: default No default There are no root hash marks or whatever. It's just as it appears above. What does this mean, please? By the way, I checked my Windows. Everything is fine. Thank you. Benjamin ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Urgent FreeBSD Boot question! -- Note on CD
Dear Kevin: By the way, I have a CD Rom drive and a DVD drive. The FreeBSD CD is in the first CD Rom drive. Benjamin ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Urgent FreeBSD Boot question! -- Question
Dear Kevin: By the way, for future reference, what boot manager should I choose next time I install FreeBSD? Lilo? Grub? If so, where is the option for installing it? Thank you. Benjamin ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6.0-REL problems with ISA ed0, FFS corruption and ancient hardware
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On Sun, Mar 19, 2006 at 04:39:19PM -0500, Matt Emmerton wrote: : On Sun, Mar 19, 2006 at 11:28:45AM -0500, Matt Emmerton wrote: : OK, now you can post about your other panic :-) Yes. Please. I'm interested in the ed0 panic, since this is the first report I've had of problems with ed in a long time. Warner ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Urgent FreeBSD Boot question! -- Note on FreeBSD Boot
Dear Kevin: By the way, when I booted up, I did see and use the F1 for Windows option and the F5 for FreeBSD (F1) along with Other (F5). So, it's working. But its' not getting me into FreeBSD. Would appreciate your explanation. Thank you. Benjamin ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Urgent FreeBSD Boot question! -- Note 3
Dear Kevin: Here is another line from the FreeBSD boot sequence: Loader: not a directory No /boot/loader. Benjamin ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question! -- Almost there!
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:43:04 -0600 From: Benjamin Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Kevin: You sure know your stuff, Kevin. No question about it. I am almost there. The only problem is that when I boot up to the new FreeBSD system (CD unselected and hardrive selected in boot sequence), I get a kind of login that says: FreeBS/i386 boot Default: 1: ad (1,a) default No /boot/kernel/kernel Then Default: 1: ad(1,a)/ boot/kernel/kernel boot: default No default There are no root hash marks or whatever. It's just as it appears above. What does this mean, please? By the way, I checked my Windows. Everything is fine. Lots of folks know this stuff a lot better than I do. Let me get this clear. You start the boot and get the: F1 DOS F5 Drive 1 Default: F1 You press F5. Do you see this? Or the loader prompt noted in your message? F1 FreeBSD F5 Drive 0 Default: F1 The loader prompt is telling you that the loader is not finding your kernel. Did you transcribe the second message exactly? Is there really a space after the first slash? Default: 1: ad(1,a)/ boot/kernel/kernel or is it really Default: 1:ad(1,a)/boot/kernel/kernel Try entering: 1:ad(1,a)/boot/loader This is what SHOULD be the default. I fear that something in your FreeBSD installation is broken, but I am not sure what. I am going off-line for the night, so I won't see any further messages until tomorrow morning. By the way, the date on your messages are wrong. Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:43:04 -0600 (16:43 PST) PST is -0800, not -0600. I received the message at 15:40:50 -0800 (PST). -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +1 510 486-8634 ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
usb related panic in 6.1-prerelease
All, I have two USB hard drives attached through an Adaptec USB2 card. The disks were working fine (although seemed a bit slow ~3MB/s random reads/writes as reported by iostat while rsync was copying from one to the other a complete freebsd install). The drives were left connected to the machine unmounted. At some point the following appeared on the console: umass1: Phase Error, residue = 32 (da2:umass-sim1:1:0:0): AutoSense Failed Opened disk da2 - 5 umass1: Invalid CSW: tag 2575 should be 2576 however I did not notice this message until later connecting to the machine through ssh and trying to mount the _other_ disk (the disk on da1). the kernel panic'ed; through remote kvm I was able to copy down the following (which was below the CSW message): Fatal Trap 18: integer divide fault while in kernel mode ... current process = (...) mount ... the instruction pointer was at 0xc081daab, which is: 0xc081da9f __qdivrem+47: mov$0x1,%edi 0xc081daa4 __qdivrem+52: mov%edi,%eax 0xc081daa6 __qdivrem+54: mov$0x0,%edx 0xc081daab __qdivrem+59: div%ecx 0xc081daad __qdivrem+61: mov%eax,0xffbc(%ebp) 0xc081dab0 __qdivrem+64: mov%eax,0xffc0(%ebp) 0xc081dab3 __qdivrem+67: cmpl $0x0,0x18(%ebp) (probably) relevant system details: 6.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #0: Sat Mar 11 19:09:49 EST 2006 /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 usb1: OHCI version 1.0 usb1: NEC uPD 9210 USB controller on ohci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: NEC OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered ohci2: NEC uPD 9210 USB controller mem 0xfebfe000-0xfebfefff irq 23 at device 1.1 on pci2 ohci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: OHCI version 1.0 usb2: NEC uPD 9210 USB controller on ohci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: NEC OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: NEC uPD 720100 USB 2.0 controller mem 0xfebffc00-0xfebffcff irq 16 at device 1.2 on pci2 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: EHCI version 1.0 usb3: companion controllers, 3 ports each: usb1 usb2 usb3: NEC uPD 720100 USB 2.0 controller on ehci0 usb3: USB revision 2.0 uhub3: NEC EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 5 ports with 5 removable, self powered umass0: vendor 0x0402 USB 2.0 Storage Device, rev 2.00/1.03, addr 2 umass1: vendor 0x0402 USB 2.0 Storage Device, rev 2.00/1.03, addr 3 please advise. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD box dropping packets
On Mon, 2006-Mar-20 21:26:56 +0300, Anton Nikiforov wrote: I have a FreeBSD box running 5.4-RELEASE-p8. ... A week ago it was working just properly, but after adding more RAM (2GB additional RAM, and i do not thing that this is the reason of the problem) it starts to drop large packets. How much RAM is there now? Why did you add the additional RAM (since you suggest the machine isn't heavily loaded)? What happens if you remove the RAM? It's possible that the additional RAM means that you are running out of KVA under high network load. -- Peter Jeremy smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Urgent FreeBSD Boot question! -- Almost there!
As mentioned, this belongs on freebsd-qyestions, not freebsd-stable. Also, could you please keep your questions as a single thread - it makes it much easier to follow. On Mon, 2006-Mar-20 18:43:04 -0600, Benjamin Sher wrote: FreeBS/i386 boot Default: 1: ad (1,a) default No /boot/kernel/kernel Then Default: 1: ad(1,a)/ boot/kernel/kernel boot: default No default This looks like your install didn't work correctly. When you installed FreeBSD, did you use entire disk on ad1 for FreeBSD? If not, exactly how did you configure ad1? If you boot into the live filesystem shell, can you # mount /dev/ad1s1a /mnt If so, what does ls -l /boot report? If not, please provide the output of fdisk ad1 and disklabel ad1sX (where X is the partition that has a sysid of 165). By the way, for future reference, what boot manager should I choose next time I install FreeBSD? Lilo? Grub? If so, where is the option for installing it? I've never seen any reason to move away from MBR. If you want to use LILO or Grub, you will need to install and configure it yourself - google should find a tutorial. -- Peter Jeremy ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]