6.1 responsiveness under heavy (cpu?) load + thread monitoring
Hello, I have a RELENG_6/AMD64 with an AMD64X2 cpu, 1GB of memory, 512MB swap. I remarked that when I run 2 simulation program [1], sometimes, one of them run one or several of its threads [2] very slowly, but sometimes, it doesn't occur. I remarked that is doesn't depend on SMP/UP, ULE/4BSD, i386/AMD64. It seems to occur also with the kernel stress test under the same conditions (all of them). In this case, the mouse is blocked, etc. I tested different kernels, and recorded the output of sysctl vm [3]. I increased vm.swap_async_max but this doesn't change the deal /a priori/. All that didn't occur with a Sempron64. All was slower but the mouse didn't blocked etc. This was a time ago, I may be wrong. It seems to be an architecture problem (??). I can give more quantitative data, but I need help to focus the tests... Mathieu [1] http://ising.podzone.org/src/ising_lps_0.4.tar.bz2 [2] void *interface(void *arg) can be very slow, void *system_trace(void *arg) can exit during a very long time (terminated ? detached: it should). [3] http://ising.podzone.org/vm/vm_amd64.tar.bz2 and others in this directory PS: does FreeBSD allow monitoring threads of a program in real time ? I didn't find anything for freebsd. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
smp/up sysinstall OK
Hello, sysinstall installed successfully a smp generic kernel (3800+).. Mathieu ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
no more processes
Just had a box go unresponsive on all services (still pingable) had a session still open to it but any command would result in the error no more processes Checks clean for a rootkit and nothing amiss in the logs (that I can find). I have never heard of a bsd box giving this error before, I can't even think of what (other than a hack) would cause such an ungraceful freeze. Any suggestions welcome. M ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: no more processes
On Sat, Apr 01, 2006 at 11:00:36AM -0600, Martin Dorschler wrote: Just had a box go unresponsive on all services (still pingable) had a session still open to it but any command would result in the error no more processes Checks clean for a rootkit and nothing amiss in the logs (that I can find). I have never heard of a bsd box giving this error before, I can't even think of what (other than a hack) would cause such an ungraceful freeze. Something went crazy spawning processes (either quickly or over a long time). Break to DDB to find out what processes are running, or if you have another session still open with processes running, try to kill them to make more space and then immediately run top. Kris pgplajyuXR1Kr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: new sk driver [was: nve timeout (and down) regression?]
On Tuesday 28 March 2006 20:37, you wrote: On Tuesday 28 March 2006 11:38, Pieter de Goeje wrote: I can't really tell if the performance is impaired by mpsafenet=0, because the box is mostly busy doing userland stuff. Typical traffic looks like this: I'm going to test the new driver to see if I can disable mpsafenet. To be specific on the NIC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:10:0: class=0x02 card=0x811a1043 chip=0x432011ab rev=0x13 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Marvell Semiconductor (Was: Galileo Technology Ltd)' device = '88E8001/8003/8010 Gigabit Ethernet Controller with Integrated PHY (copper)' class= network subclass = ethernet yes, this is the Asus A8V, same here may be you consider to try Pyun's driver http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test/if_sk.c http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test/if_skreg.h and run yours without mpsafenet ? I have no clue what a game server requires. I tried anything even generic kernel and no sysctls/loader.conf values set in order to see if something else is wrong. Also I have lots of this machines and any of them same result. João I have the system running for 3 days straight now with the new driver, however the problem described earlier still exists. I still need to use mpsafenet=0. Other than that, the driver seems fine. No timeouts whatsoever. I was thinking, maybe it isn't the network driver but the linux compatibility layer that has problems with SMP. Pieter de Goeje ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rel 6.1 what is happening
Can anyone here comment on what is happening with 6.1. Judging from the extra Beta releases and delay on RC1 presumably there are some unforeseen problems with this release. No doubt the developers are workig hard to resolve those problems - can someone share? Were there some deep underlying issues which will take longer to address or BTW the way - this is not a meant to be a contentious question (so hopefully it will not be..) - just a request for info. Cheers, Graham/ -- Kindness can be infectious - try it. Graham North Vancouver, BC www.soleado.ca No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/2006 ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rel 6.1 what is happening
On Sat, Apr 01, 2006 at 11:22:17AM -0800, Graham North wrote: Can anyone here comment on what is happening with 6.1. Judging from the extra Beta releases and delay on RC1 presumably there are some unforeseen problems with this release. No doubt the developers are workig hard to resolve those problems - can someone share? Were there some deep underlying issues which will take longer to address or BTW the way - this is not a meant to be a contentious question (so hopefully it will not be..) - just a request for info. No serious new issues really..I think RC1 is due out this weekend. Kris pgpdO6u7dNbWg.pgp Description: PGP signature
SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?
Hello out there in FreeBSD land (and I hope Søren peeks in, too). I've been rather behind the times here and am finally getting around to building a replacement server for my absolutely ancient FreeBSD 4.7 system. It's starting to experience problems (like a couple random lock-ups/reboots) and I'm sure some of the hardware is finally failing. It's no wonder - the thing is running an ASUS P5A motherboard with hardware so obsolete I can hardly find replacement parts anymore and besides, it's on the other side of the North American continent from me. I'm interested in this newfangled serial ATA stuff I've been hearing about (heh) and thought I might try my hand at getting a RAID1 mirror going on for my home dirs. Sadly, I have no experience with RAID. I had initially planned on just setting up two identical drives and using one to periodically back up the data, but have been told RAID1 is a better way to do this. Now I need to figure out what type of controller card to get and was hoping for some input on affordable cards. I was looking at the Adaptec Serial ATA II RAID 1420SA and Promise FastTrak TX4300 4-port SATA RAID PCI adapters. I did find a note on the Promise card that it is now supported in Current. Is this something that might make its way into the 6.x-STABLE branch at some point? Also, I have heard that there is bad blood of some sort between Adaptec and FreeBSD. I am not interested in a flame war ensuing, but if there is limited to no support, I'd like to know so that I can avoid their cards. Hopefully those two cards give an idea of the price range and requirements of the cards I'm looking at: 4 ports for future expansion, around $150 US (or less), low profile PCI for a rack-mount case. Are either of these two cards supported in FreeBSD 6.x-STABLE? If it makes any difference, I plan to buy a pair of these drives for it: Maxtor DiamondMax 10 300GB Hard Drive 6V300F0, Serial ATA 3.0Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB Cache. The server will be primarily an e-mail and web server for private use with some rather large files. There are only a handful of users, but it gets a bit busy at times when the DJs do an update. I hope to get this up and running in the next month. If I've missed something painfully obvious here, please feel free to educate me and/or point me to a URL. Thanks for any tips, -Tenebrae. --- The sending of any unsolicited email advertising messages to this domain may result in the imposition of civil liability against you in accordance with Cal. Bus. Prof. Code Section 17538.45. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fwd: Re: Rel 6.1 what is happening]
Oops - forgot to send all. G/ Original Message Subject:Re: Rel 6.1 what is happening Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 11:45:44 -0800 From: Graham North [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kris - thank you. Graham/ Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sat, Apr 01, 2006 at 11:22:17AM -0800, Graham North wrote: Can anyone here comment on what is happening with 6.1. Judging from the extra Beta releases and delay on RC1 presumably there are some unforeseen problems with this release. No doubt the developers are workig hard to resolve those problems - can someone share? Were there some deep underlying issues which will take longer to address or BTW the way - this is not a meant to be a contentious question (so hopefully it will not be..) - just a request for info. No serious new issues really..I think RC1 is due out this weekend. Kris -- Kindness can be infectious - try it. Graham North Vancouver, BC www.soleado.ca -- Kindness can be infectious - try it. Graham North Vancouver, BC www.soleado.ca No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/2006 ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?
Tenebrae wrote: The server will be primarily an e-mail and web server for private use with some rather large files. There are only a handful of users, but it gets a bit busy at times when the DJs do an update. I hope to get this up and running in the next month. If I've missed something painfully obvious here, please feel free to educate me and/or point me to a URL. Thanks for any tips, Hi Why don't you just use gmirror(8) and do software RAID 1? IMHO a controller just for RAID 1 is unnecessary, as the OS together with a reasonable motherboards disk controller is just as fast as any RAID controller. Also maybe see: http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ for more details. HTH Lars ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?
On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Lars Cleary wrote: Why don't you just use gmirror(8) and do software RAID 1? IMHO a controller just for RAID 1 is unnecessary, as the OS together with a reasonable motherboards disk controller is just as fast as any RAID controller. Ah, I knew I should have mentioned this. The motherboard I will be using has no native SATA support so I will need to purchase a(n) SATA controller anyway. Also, I tend to prefer hardware solutions to software solutions (*cough*evilWinModem*cough*). Also maybe see: http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ for more details. Thanks. I'll have a look. -Tenebrae. --- The sending of any unsolicited email advertising messages to this domain may result in the imposition of civil liability against you in accordance with Cal. Bus. Prof. Code Section 17538.45. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD 2.2.9 Released
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It is my great pleasure and privilege to announce the availability of FreeBSD 2.2.9-RELEASE. This release is the culmination of SEVENTY-SEVEN months of tireless work by the FreeBSD developers, users, their children, and their pets. Significant features in this release: - - XFree86 3.3.3, the industry leader in support for cutting edge PCI graphics adapters and 2D acceleration. - - The 8GB barrier in IDE drive sizes has finally been broken. The wd(4) driver now supports unimaginable sizes of 137GB on a single drive! - - Support for all of the latest high-speed FAST-WIDE (20MB/s) SCSI-2 controllers. - - The Linux emulator is now able to run Quake2 out-of-the-box. A full description of the release can be found here: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/2.2.9-RELEASE/README.TXT ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/2.2.9-RELEASE/RELNOTES.TXT Availability - FreeBSD 2.2.9-RELEASE supports the i386 architecture and can be installed directly over the net using bootable media or copied to a local NFS/FTP server. Please continue to support the FreeBSD Project by purchasing media from one of our supporting vendors. The following companies will be offering FreeBSD 2.2.9 based products: ~ FreeBSD Mall, Inc.http://www.freebsdmall.com/ ~ Daemonnews, Inc. http://www.bsdmall.com/freebsd1.html If you can't afford FreeBSD on media, are impatient, or just want to use it for evangelism purposes, then by all means download the ISO images. We can't promise that all the mirror sites will carry the larger ISO images, but they will at least be available from the following sites. FTP --- At the time of this announcement the following FTP sites have FreeBSD 2.2.9-RELEASE available. ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases FreeBSD is also available via anonymous FTP from mirror sites in the following countries: Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Bulgaria, Canada, China, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Hong Kong, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Japan, Korea, Lithuania, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, Slovak Republic, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Taiwan, Thailand, Ukraine, and the United Kingdom. Before trying the central FTP site, please check your regional mirror(s) first by going to: ftp://ftp.yourdomain.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD Any additional mirror sites will be labeled ftp2, ftp3 and so on. More information about FreeBSD mirror sites can be found at: http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html For instructions on installing FreeBSD, please see Chapter 2 of The FreeBSD Handbook. It provides a complete installation walk-through for users new to FreeBSD, and can be found online at: http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html Acknowledgments The release engineering team for 2.2.9-RELEASE includes: Scott Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] Release Engineering Ruslan Ermilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] I386, creative director Sniffy The Wonder Cat Warrm lap, typing assistance Max The Dancing Cat Early morning wakeups, QA Sammy The Tiny Cat Face licks, QA -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFELuG+HTr20QF8Xr8RAkoyAJ4nU4v9TK/Tjh8eEGbjNtGxmiVu0gCfcNtg oNz6FNHVuv87MSKJeXJcMAU= =Z5hh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
6.1 and full i915 support?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Initial support for i915 based graphics cards were introduced last April and enabled in the Makefile in November resulting an i915-ready agp driver, but the drm subsystem was not working. Thanks to A. Popov the problem of drm was solved and the changes were put to the cvs tree (i915_drv.c 1.3, drm_drv.c 1.4) in December. In the last few months this code remained in the MAIN branch resulting that 6.1 users can get only a half working driver for their i915 based systems. I have been using a patched driver on my 6.X box for almost 4 months without any problem, so I really do not understand why this part of the drm code was not MFC'd into the RELENG_6 branch. Is there any reason for doing so? Thanks, Laci - -- László Károly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Altaic StudiesEgyetem str. 2. University of Szeged H-6722 Szeged, Hungary PGP/GnuPG key: 1024D/869D81C5 Fingerprint: 1E61 3205 8F5A 87E7 1269 3396 1C63 F9FF 869D 81C5 Encrypted e-mail preferred. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFELuWMHGP5/4adgcURAiN3AJ4hhr2D5vSbOruxmPeNUJtlKAXufACfTAQD YSo5v6WSe8OsZEXRfJtPZys= =TMCd -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 Released
On Sat, 2006-Apr-01 13:25:59 -0700, Scott Long wrote: It is my great pleasure and privilege to announce the availability of FreeBSD 2.2.9-RELEASE. This release is the culmination of SEVENTY-SEVEN months of tireless work by the FreeBSD developers, users, their children, and their pets. Significant features in this release: Thank you for this. I was beginning to think the 2.2 branch had been abandoned - the mailing lists seem full of references to 5.5 and 6.1 these days. Can you please advise what CVSup tag I should use to upgrade to 2.2.9. -- Peter Jeremy ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6.1 responsiveness under heavy (cpu?) load + thread monitoring
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 16:34:25 +0200 From: Mathieu Prevot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I have a RELENG_6/AMD64 with an AMD64X2 cpu, 1GB of memory, 512MB swap. I remarked that when I run 2 simulation program [1], sometimes, one of them run one or several of its threads [2] very slowly, but sometimes, it doesn't occur. I remarked that is doesn't depend on SMP/UP, ULE/4BSD, i386/AMD64. It seems to occur also with the kernel stress test under the same conditions (all of them). In this case, the mouse is blocked, etc. I tested different kernels, and recorded the output of sysctl vm [3]. I increased vm.swap_async_max but this doesn't change the deal /a priori/. All that didn't occur with a Sempron64. All was slower but the mouse didn't blocked etc. This was a time ago, I may be wrong. It seems to be an architecture problem (??). I can give more quantitative data, but I need help to focus the tests... Mathieu [1] http://ising.podzone.org/src/ising_lps_0.4.tar.bz2 [2] void *interface(void *arg) can be very slow, void *system_trace(void *arg) can exit during a very long time (terminated ? detached: it should). [3] http://ising.podzone.org/vm/vm_amd64.tar.bz2 and others in this directory Mathieu, Any chance your system was running tight on memory? How much does it have and is the system using any swap space? I suspect that something is not working well in V5 or V6 with writing to/reading from swap. I have reported a similar problem and Kris K. asked me to try adjusting vm.swap_async_max, but the system has been replaced and I ave been having trouble getting a systems set up to test. (Disk died.) I hope to try Kris's suggestion next week, but your report makes this seem less likely. I can say that I don't see this on my new system which increased memory from 256MB to 1GB. Needless to say, it seldom has to use the swap file and I must agree that it seems tied to threaded processes. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +1 510 486-8634 ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new sk driver [was: nve timeout (and down) regression?]
On Saturday 01 April 2006 16:15, Pieter de Goeje wrote: may be you consider to try Pyun's driver http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test/if_sk.c http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/sk/sk_test/if_skreg.h and run yours without mpsafenet ? I have no clue what a game server requires. I tried anything even generic kernel and no sysctls/loader.conf values set in order to see if something else is wrong. Also I have lots of this machines and any of them same result. João I have the system running for 3 days straight now with the new driver, however the problem described earlier still exists. I still need to use mpsafenet=0. Other than that, the driver seems fine. No timeouts whatsoever. I was thinking, maybe it isn't the network driver but the linux compatibility layer that has problems with SMP. Pieter de Goeje great ! the problem you mention is what you wrote in a former msg, right: With debug.mpsafenet=1, cvsup failes with protocol errors on the SMP box. Also, I run several Half-Life: Counter-Strike servers on it and clients occasionaly receive corrupted UDP packets which cause them to drop the connection. However as soon as I changed debug.mpsafenet to 0, all problems were gone. that is really strange, I do not have such problems at all and it seems we are running basicly the same system, AV8 + X2 + releng_6. so the gameserver needs linux_compat? I haven't it compiled in my kernel but on some parent caches which talk udp between them and some loaded DNS servers I got ocasionally udp errors but I could get around it by setting net.inet.udp.recvspace net.inet.udp.maxdgram to higher values. João A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 Released
Peter Jeremy wrote: On Sat, 2006-Apr-01 13:25:59 -0700, Scott Long wrote: It is my great pleasure and privilege to announce the availability of FreeBSD 2.2.9-RELEASE. This release is the culmination of SEVENTY-SEVEN months of tireless work by the FreeBSD developers, users, their children, and their pets. Significant features in this release: Thank you for this. I was beginning to think the 2.2 branch had been abandoned - the mailing lists seem full of references to 5.5 and 6.1 these days. Can you please advise what CVSup tag I should use to upgrade to 2.2.9. Hi, I have just one curious question, why is FreeBSD 2.2.x still being developed ? This is maybe a stupid question, but i am only curious to know why ? Is there any special reason for this ? I work with FreeBSD since 3.5 and today my machines are working with 6.0 Thank you FreeBSD Developers for all your work ! I'm proud to say to my friends that i ONLY use FreeBSD on my machines ! Cheers, Silves ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 Released
On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Silves wrote: Peter Jeremy wrote: On Sat, 2006-Apr-01 13:25:59 -0700, Scott Long wrote: It is my great pleasure and privilege to announce the availability of FreeBSD 2.2.9-RELEASE. This release is the culmination of SEVENTY-SEVEN months of tireless work by the FreeBSD developers, users, their children, and their pets. Significant features in this release: Thank you for this. I was beginning to think the 2.2 branch had been abandoned - the mailing lists seem full of references to 5.5 and 6.1 these days. Can you please advise what CVSup tag I should use to upgrade to 2.2.9. Hi, I have just one curious question, why is FreeBSD 2.2.x still being developed ? This is maybe a stupid question, but i am only curious to know why ? Is there any special reason for this ? Check the date of the announce .. ?:) Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 Released
Silves wrote: On Sat, 2006-Apr-01 13:25:59 -0700, Scott Long wrote: ^^^ It is my great pleasure and privilege to announce the availability of FreeBSD 2.2.9-RELEASE. I have just one curious question, why is FreeBSD 2.2.x still being developed ? This is maybe a stupid question, but i am only curious to know why ? Is there any special reason for this ? Look at the date on Scott's email. :-) Colin Percival ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?
Tenebrae wrote: On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Lars Cleary wrote: Why don't you just use gmirror(8) and do software RAID 1? IMHO a controller just for RAID 1 is unnecessary, as the OS together with a reasonable motherboards disk controller is just as fast as any RAID controller. Ah, I knew I should have mentioned this. The motherboard I will be using has no native SATA support so I will need to purchase a(n) SATA controller anyway. Also, I tend to prefer hardware solutions to software solutions (*cough*evilWinModem*cough*). I started using only 3ware cards a while ago. It was a good choice. Lots of other seem to have the same experience too. Also maybe see: http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ for more details. Thanks. I'll have a look. -Tenebrae. --- The sending of any unsolicited email advertising messages to this domain may result in the imposition of civil liability against you in accordance with Cal. Bus. Prof. Code Section 17538.45. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dominic ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 Released
On 4/1/06, Silves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just one curious question, why is FreeBSD 2.2.x still being developed ? The same reason Slashdot is now in purple with the OMG Ponies!!! theme. This is maybe a stupid question, but i am only curious to know why ? Is there any special reason for this ? Check the date. :) Scott ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [6.1-PRERELEASE/amd64] Kernel panic during heavy UFS traffic
On Saturday 18 March 2006 19:39, you wrote: On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 07:29:25PM -0600, Jason Harmening wrote: I finally managed to reproduce the mount panic on the console: CORONA% mount /dev/acd0 /home/jason/dvdram g_vfs_done():acd0[READ(offset=114688, length=16384)]error = 5 panic: mount: lost mount cpuid = 0 KDB: stack backtrace: kdb_backtrace() at kdb_backtrace+0x37 panic() at panic+0x1d1 vfs_domount() at vfs_domount+0x9ae vfs_donmount() at vfs_donmount+0x400 kernel_mount() at kernel_mount+0x40 ffs_cmount() at ffs_cmount+0x7c mount() at mount+0x1e3 syscall() at syscall+0x3a4 Xfast_syscall() at Xfast_syscall+0xa8 --- syscall (21, FreeBSD ELF64, mount), rip = 0x80067e0dc, rsp = 0x7fffdc88, rbp = 0x7 fffe748 --- Uptime: 1m34s Dumping 1023 MB (2 chunks) I'm starting to worry this may be a hardware issue... Yes, it could well be (or bad media) - the drive returned an I/O error (error 5 = EIO) when you tried to mount the media. If it is, would there be a more elegant way for the OS to handle a failed removable drive mount besides panicking? In principle, yes. I don't know if there's any hope of getting it fixed in time for 6.1, but please file a PR with this trace. I filed PR 94669 for this issue and finally took some time to do some further investigation on my own. I've found the following: 1. I can invariably mount the DVD-RAM successfully if I first do some operation on the disk that doesn't require it to be mounted (namely, an fsck), or if I've previously mounted successfully and haven't since ejected the media. I will only see the panic if I try to mount immediately after inserting the media, and then not 100% of the time. This leads me to believe there may be some confusion between the drive, the ATAPI CD/DVD driver, and the VFS subsystem as to when, exactly, the drive is ready for mounting. 2. I looked at the VFS sources for RELENG_6 and found the point at which the panic seems to be occurring--lines 891-892 of vfs_mount.c: if (VFS_ROOT(mp, LK_EXCLUSIVE, newdp, td)) panic(mount: lost mount); So essentially the invocation of mp-mount_op-vfs_root (In this case, I'm guessing whatever the vfs_root function for UFS is) returns an error. Would it be safe to handle this error by returning an error code instead of panicking? Or would this have undesirable ramifications for auto-mounted filesystems on fixed disks, or could the failed vfs_root possibly induce side-effects that would leave the kernel in an unstable state? I don't know much about the FreeBSD VFS, but I'm willing to take a crack at fixing/testing this. Thanks, Jason Kris ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 Released
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Silves wrote: Peter Jeremy wrote: On Sat, 2006-Apr-01 13:25:59 -0700, Scott Long wrote: It is my great pleasure and privilege to announce the availability of FreeBSD 2.2.9-RELEASE. This release is the culmination of SEVENTY-SEVEN months of tireless work by the FreeBSD developers, users, their children, and their pets. Significant features in this release: Thank you for this. I was beginning to think the 2.2 branch had been abandoned - the mailing lists seem full of references to 5.5 and 6.1 these days. Can you please advise what CVSup tag I should use to upgrade to 2.2.9. Hi, I have just one curious question, why is FreeBSD 2.2.x still being developed ? This is maybe a stupid question, but i am only curious to know why ? Is there any special reason for this ? Check the date of the announce .. ?:) Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 Ho ! i understand now ! I can't beleave !! lololol Thanks Scott hehehehe This was really a stupid question ! :-) I was caught ! Thanks guys ! ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?
Tenebrae [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm interested in this newfangled serial ATA stuff I've been hearing about (heh) and thought I might try my hand at getting a RAID1 mirror going on for my home dirs. Sadly, I have no experience with RAID. I had initially planned on just setting up two identical drives and using one to periodically back up the data, but have been told RAID1 is a better way to do this. Now I need to figure out what type of controller card to get and was hoping for some input on affordable cards. RAID1 is _not_ a backup, but an availability aid. If going for RAID1, be sure to add a backup solution. Simple scenario: If you type rm, your files are gone from both disks with RAID1. With regular synching, even without versioning files, you have time until the next synch operation to retrieve accidentally deleted files. With real backups, the deleted files will be available for longer. I was looking at the Adaptec Serial ATA II RAID 1420SA and Promise FastTrak TX4300 4-port SATA RAID PCI adapters. I did find a note on the Promise card that it is now supported in Current. Is this something that might make its way into the 6.x-STABLE branch at some point? Also, I have heard that there is bad blood of some sort between Adaptec and FreeBSD. I am not interested in a flame war ensuing, but if there is limited to no support, I'd like to know so that I can avoid their cards. Forget both cards. Neither of the two is hardware RAID, see: http://www.brentnorris.net/blog/?p=158 http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html Cheating people and selling software RAID cards where the BIOS or driver has to do the mirroring has become quite popular with SATA RAID. Be sure to get something that is real hardware RAID. You don't need to pay for software RAID, you usually get that for free with the onboard chipset these days. BTW, does FreeBSD 6.1 support the ICH7-R already? 6.0 did not. Hopefully those two cards give an idea of the price range and requirements of the cards I'm looking at: 4 ports for future expansion, around $150 US (or less), No way. Real RAID costs more than twice as much for 4 ports. 150 bucks suffice only for the 2 port warm-plug (i. e. you need to manually mark the drive for removal in the software or BIOS, then exchange it , then manually start the rebuild operation in software or BIOS) 3Ware (now AMCC) Escalade 8006-2LP. This is quite a long card, it doesn't fit the LP slot in the Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy RX100S3 because the humongous CPU cooler gets in the way. So check the dimensions before ordering anything. FreeBSD's driver for the AMCC/3Ware/Escalade 5000 - 8000 series is twe(4), the newer 9500 series adaptors are supported by the twa(4) driver, and the driver for the better MegaRAID SATA cards is amr(4). I don't know though which of these have working FreeBSD monitoring/administration utilities, I'm using Escalade 8000 and MegaRAID SCSI with Linux. low profile PCI for a rack-mount case. Are either of these two cards supported in FreeBSD 6.x-STABLE? If it makes any difference, I plan to buy a pair of these drives for it: Maxtor DiamondMax 10 300GB Hard Drive 6V300F0, Serial ATA 3.0Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB Cache. Are you fixed on Maxtor? Personally, I'd prefer Samsung, Seagate, Western Digital (in alphabetic order). Note that some better real Hardware RAID cards have one controller per SATA channel, there it doesn't actually matter if you get a SATA-I drive/controller or a SATA-II drive for those, you aren't going to max out 1.5 Gb/s with any drive, not even the newer Raptors. If you want NCQ, check if the controller supports it, or forget about NCQ and get a controller with battery backup unit (rare with SATA) and use copyback (writeback) caching. But don't ever dare use write caching without at least a dedicated UPS: the corruption patterns of UFS with write caches on are extremely destructive, been there, seen that -- with a test machine and only a small 2 MB on-drive write cache. -- Matthias Andree ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 Released
On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 06:58:50 +1000, Peter Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for this. I was beginning to think the 2.2 branch had been abandoned - the mailing lists seem full of references to 5.5 and 6.1 these days. Can you please advise what CVSup tag I should use to upgrade to 2.2.9. It likes `csv -rApril_Fool' +1+2+3+4+5+6+ NAKAMURA Takeshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today is `1 April 2006' in USA. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 Released
From: Scott Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It is my great pleasure and privilege to announce the availability of FreeBSD 2.2.9-RELEASE. This release is the culmination of SEVENTY-SEVEN months of tireless work by the FreeBSD developers, users, their children, and their pets. Significant features in this release: - - XFree86 3.3.3, the industry leader in support for cutting edge PCI graphics adapters and 2D acceleration. - - The 8GB barrier in IDE drive sizes has finally been broken. The wd(4) driver now supports unimaginable sizes of 137GB on a single drive! - - Support for all of the latest high-speed FAST-WIDE (20MB/s) SCSI-2 controllers. - - The Linux emulator is now able to run Quake2 out-of-the-box. A full description of the release can be found here: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/2.2.9-RELEASE/README.TXT ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/2.2.9-RELEASE/RELNOTES.TXT It won't boot on my Tyan K8W motherboard with two dual Opterons. What should I do! I'm in a panic to get it back on the net. Withdrawal symptoms are setting in. The trembling nifgers has beginned. [EMAIL PROTECTED]@] ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 Released
From: Scott Ullrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 4/1/06, Silves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have just one curious question, why is FreeBSD 2.2.x still being
developed ?
The same reason Slashdot is now in purple with the OMG Ponies!!! theme.
This is maybe a stupid question, but i am only curious to know why ?
Is there any special reason for this ?
Check the date. :)
jdow And just who gets the gotcha here?
{^_^} Joanne, A satisfied customer of Google Romance,
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Re: buildworld error (texinfo)
+[ To Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] (31.Mar.2006 21:42): | | | This looks like you were running with a -j? set and you aren't seeing | | the real error. It was hidden somewhere. | | Yes I was running with -j | | | I have only found setting -j to be of value on smp systems. You may have | | actually slowed your buildworld down. | | OK, I'm now running without -j ... let's see where it stops | now. | | Thanks for the suggestion, | +] Of course it was my fault, I had SENDMAIL_MC defined in /etc/make.conf and pointing to a non-existent file. As for using '-j' I just learned about it following an example from the handbook, and got used to it. Thanks again, Fernan ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
USB Mosue Driver Problems
I have a Logitech MX700 USB Wireless mouse. A few days ago I posted about changing the usbd.conf entry to swap buttons 4 and 6 and buttons 5 and 7 to get the wheel scrolling to work correctly. Last night, I rebooted my system and the moused was started from rc.conf instead of usbd.conf! Since when does this happen and why should usbd.conf use the settings for the ps/2 mouse in rc.conf? If I unplug and replug the mouse, it gets the correct moused settings from usbd.conf. What exactly is happening here? This is FreeBSD crusty.zircon.seattle.wa.us 6.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #12: Fri Mar 31 17:43:23 PST 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CRUSTY amd64 updated yesterday. /Joe ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crash dump help
Good day everyone and sorry for disturbing you but I need some help
3 days ago it hapened to me after I portupgrade my curl-7*
Non-interactive tool to its latest version
I realy cannot say what the source of this unpleasant event taking
place it was. It could have been the fact im holding IRC logs for some
huge #undernet channels, or it could have been the fact I was doing
this from a Konsole/KDE console.
I was doing make on /usr/ports/gimp. Right after I pressed enter I
got a crash dump on my PC. Bad thing is I cannot recover those data
I tried using kdbg and followed steps as per the book
---
su-2.05b# kgdb kernel.debug /var/crash/vmcore.0
[GDB will not be able to debug user-mode threads:
/usr/lib/libthread_db.so: Unde
fined symbol ps_pglobal_lookup]
GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD]
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This GDB was configured as i386-marcel-freebsd.
Unread portion of the kernel message buffer:
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#0 doadump () at pcpu.h:165
165 __asm __volatile(movl %%fs:0,%0 : =r (td));
(kgdb) list *0xc0713860
0xc0713860 is in nfs4_do_setclientid (../../../nfs4client/nfs4_vfsops.c:853).
848
849 nfs_v4initcompound(cp);
850
851 nfsm_v4build_compound(cp, nfs4_do_setclientid() (confirm));
852 nfsm_v4build_setclientid_confirm(cp, scid);
853 nfsm_v4build_finalize(cp);
854
855 nfsm_request_mnt(nmp, NFSV4PROC_COMPOUND, curthread, cred);
856 if (error != 0)
857 goto nfsmout;
(kgdb) backtrace
#0 doadump () at pcpu.h:165
#1 0xc06398b6 in boot (howto=260) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:399
#2 0xc0639b4c in panic (fmt=0xc08583ea %s)
at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:555
#3 0xc0811270 in trap_fatal (frame=0xd143f790, eva=0)
at ../../../i386/i386/trap.c:831
#4 0xc0810fdb in trap_pfault (frame=0xd143f790, usermode=0, eva=0)
at ../../../i386/i386/trap.c:742
#5 0xc0810c19 in trap (frame=
{tf_fs = -784138232, tf_es = -1067319256, tf_ds = 40, tf_edi =
-1039615744, tf_esi = 0, tf_ebp = -784074780, tf_isp = -784074820,
tf_ebx = -1049747192, tf_edx = 2048, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = 1, tf_trapno
= 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1067444990, tf_cs = 32, tf_eflags = 66182,
tf_esp = 1, tf_ss = 0})
at ../../../i386/i386/trap.c:432
#6 0xc080040a in calltrap () at ../../../i386/i386/exception.s:139
#7 0xc0601502 in g_io_request (bp=0xc16e2108, cp=0xc208b900)
at ../../../geom/geom_io.c:259
#8 0xc0603a4d in g_vfs_strategy (bo=0x1, bp=0xc6664b58)
at ../../../geom/geom_vfs.c:106
#9 0xc060b98d in cd9660_strategy (ap=0x1)
at ../../../isofs/cd9660/cd9660_vnops.c:755
#10 0xc0821089 in VOP_STRATEGY_APV (vop=0xc08c7e00, a=0xd143f838)
at vnode_if.c:1796
---Type return to continue, or q return to quit---
#11 0xc068349c in bufstrategy (bo=0xc1c5de90, bp=0x1) at vnode_if.h:928
#12 0xc067de41 in breadn (vp=0xc1c5ddd0, blkno=0, size=2048, rablkno=0x0,
rabsize=0x0, cnt=0, cred=0x0, bpp=0x1) at buf.h:415
#13 0xc067dd84 in bread (vp=0xc1c5ddd0, blkno=0, size=2048, cred=0x0,
bpp=0xd143f8c4) at ../../../kern/vfs_bio.c:719
#14 0xc0608299 in cd9660_blkatoff (vp=0x800, offset=0, res=0x0, bpp=0xd143f93c)
at ../../../isofs/cd9660/cd9660_lookup.c:406
#15 0xc0607cee in cd9660_lookup (ap=0x1)
at ../../../isofs/cd9660/cd9660_lookup.c:178
#16 0xc08203a4 in VOP_CACHEDLOOKUP_APV (vop=0x1, a=0x800) at vnode_if.c:150
#17 0xc0684352 in vfs_cache_lookup (ap=0x1) at vnode_if.h:82
#18 0xc0820333 in VOP_LOOKUP_APV (vop=0xc08c7e00, a=0xd143fb18)
at vnode_if.c:99
#19 0xc06888e1 in lookup (ndp=0xd143fc00) at vnode_if.h:56
#20 0xc0688222 in namei (ndp=0xd143fc00) at ../../../kern/vfs_lookup.c:203
#21 0xc06958f9 in kern_stat (td=0xc2657480,
path=0x800 Address 0x800 out of bounds, pathseg=2048, sbp=0xd143fc74)
at ../../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:2053
#22 0xc06958a7 in stat (td=0xc2657480, uap=0xd143fd04)
at ../../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:2038
#23 0xc0811587 in syscall (frame=
{tf_fs = 59, tf_es = 59, tf_ds = 59, tf_edi = 134520148, tf_esi
= 1, tf_ebp = -1077945800, tf_isp = -784073372, tf_ebx = 134758432,
tf_edx = 5, tf_ecx = 1---Type return to continue, or q return to
quit---
35154710, tf_eax = 188, tf_trapno = 0, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 134592959,
tf_cs = 51, tf_eflags = 658, tf_esp = -1077945972,
Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?
On Sunday 02 April 2006 05:20, Lars Cleary wrote: Why don't you just use gmirror(8) and do software RAID 1? IMHO a controller just for RAID 1 is unnecessary, as the OS together with a reasonable motherboards disk controller is just as fast as any RAID controller. You can't boot off a system with a dead primary disk with software RAID1. (well you MIGHT but.. in any case RAID1 cards are quite cheap) -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C pgpMsU3SqQIZB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SATA RAID: Adaptec 1420SA, Promise TX4300?
On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Matthias Andree wrote: RAID1 is _not_ a backup, but an availability aid. If going for RAID1, be sure to add a backup solution. More to think about...thank you. I am trying to get some peace of mind on a budget, though. I suppose I need to give more consideration to what my priorities are since I don't think I will be able to do all that should be done. Be sure to get something that is real hardware RAID. You don't need to pay for software RAID, you usually get that for free with the onboard chipset these days. The motherboard in question is a Tyan Thunder HEsl-T (S2688). It's a hand-me-down, but still beats the pants off of anything else I've got at the moment. No way. Real RAID costs more than twice as much for 4 ports. 150 bucks suffice only for the 2 port warm-plug (i. e. you need to manually mark the drive for removal in the software or BIOS, then exchange it , then manually start the rebuild operation in software or BIOS) 3Ware (now AMCC) Escalade 8006-2LP. Ah, I see. The 8506-4LP seems to be discontinued from my vendor, but they do carry the 8006-2LP in that price range. If it makes any difference, I plan to buy a pair of these drives for it: Maxtor DiamondMax 10 300GB Hard Drive 6V300F0, Serial ATA 3.0Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB Cache. Are you fixed on Maxtor? Personally, I'd prefer Samsung, Seagate, Western Digital (in alphabetic order). My last functioning batch of hard drives were all Maxtor. Looks like Seagate is buying Maxtor, so it probably won't matter soon. ;) I've nothing against Seagate, though. -Tenebrae. --- The sending of any unsolicited email advertising messages to this domain may result in the imposition of civil liability against you in accordance with Cal. Bus. Prof. Code Section 17538.45. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB Mosue Driver Problems
On Saturday 01 April 2006 18:31, Joe Kelsey wrote: I have a Logitech MX700 USB Wireless mouse. A few days ago I posted about changing the usbd.conf entry to swap buttons 4 and 6 and buttons 5 and 7 to get the wheel scrolling to work correctly. Last night, I rebooted my system and the moused was started from rc.conf instead of usbd.conf! You should be using devd.conf and devd not usbd, which is deprecated. Set everything up through devd and disable usbd and see if the same thing happens. -- Anish Mistry pgpfPPph1Dv5t.pgp Description: PGP signature
Freebsd 6-RELEASE and the iwi-firmware
Sorry if this is not the right ML and please let me know if I need to post it on another ML but it is related to FreeBSD 6-RELEASE and the iwi-firmware The moment I re-installed FreeBSD 6-RELEASE on my Toshiba Tecra A4 Laptop, I grabbed the iwi-firmware from the internet using a nearby machine then installed the driver/firmware successfully and everything seemed to be fine. Later one, I updated the system using portmanager -u and that installed a new iwi-firmware I guess, because I had to agree to the EULA and since then, when I load the firmware, it gives me continuous messages in the console and dmesg about unknown notification type 15 I noticed one more thing, with the old firmware, it was located in /usr/local/share/iwi-firmware, but the new one is under /boot/iwi-firmware, it took me a while to figure this out! Any help is appreciated on how I can resolve this matter, is it possible to revert back to the old driver? I don't want to upgrade my system to an unstable release. I know FreeBSD is stable but 6.1 is not officially for production use yet! Please correct me if I'm wrong. Sincerely, Yousef Raffah Senior Systems Administrator SSIS - The Savola Group -- Aren't you using Firefox? Get it at getfirefox.com yousef.raffah.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
