Re: Recent PAM changes worth an UPDATING entry?

2007-08-28 Thread Doug Barton

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007, martinko wrote:


Doug Barton wrote:

Howdy,

I just rebuilt and installed my world on my 6-stable box, and ran into a 
snag. Like a lot of users I use -DNO_CLEAN in buildworld since this is a 
very slow box that I use mostly as a file/dns server. After rebooting I 
could ssh in ok (probably because I don't use PAM for sshd) but couldn't 
su, or log in at the console.


After looking at the errors, I figured out that I needed to completely 
recompile stuff related to PAM. Just to be on the safe side I did libpam, 
login, su, and getty. After that I was able to log in normally from the 
console, and su from either terminal.


IMO this is worth an entry in UPDATING since I probably won't be the only 
user who stumbles across this.


Doug



Doug,

Could it possibly be related to the following issue of mine ?? :
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-July/153137.html


Sure sounds that way. Have you tried doing clean recompiles of those 
programs?


Doug

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mpt problem

2007-08-28 Thread Vladimir Melnik
Hello.

We have a very stange problem with LSILogic 1030 Ultra4 Adapter. There is an 
information about it:

mpt0: LSILogic 1030 Ultra4 Adapter port 0x4000-0x40ff mem 
0xdc12-0xdc13,0xdc10-0xdc11 irq 18 at device 3.0 on pci3
mpt0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
mpt0: MPI Version=1.2.14.0

Everything works fine, but time to time disk operations hangs and we have this 
messages in log:

mpt0: request 0xc4bd81f0:196 timed out for ccb 0xc4dedc00 (req-ccb 0xc4dedc00)
mpt0: attempting to abort req 0xc4bd81f0:196 function 0
mpt0: completing timedout/aborted req 0xc4bd81f0:196
mpt0: abort of req 0xc4bd81f0:0 completed
mpt0: request 0xc4bd8220:198 timed out for ccb 0xc4dedc00 (req-ccb 0xc4dedc00)
mpt0: attempting to abort req 0xc4bd8220:198 function 0
mpt0: mpt_wait_req(1) timed out
mpt0: mpt_recover_commands: abort timed-out. Resetting controller
mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x0
mpt0: completing timedout/aborted req 0xc4bd8220:198
(da0:mpt0:0:0:0): lost device
(da0:mpt0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack
(da0:mpt0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4a, scsi status == 0x0
(da0:mpt0:0:0:0): removing device entry

SCSI-bus connected to Areca RAID-controller and this controller works fine with 
MS Windows.

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Re: A little story of failed raid5 (3ware 8000 series)

2007-08-28 Thread Gary Palmer
On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 11:38:19AM -0700, Darren Pilgrim wrote:
 Tom Judge wrote:
 Tom Samplonius wrote:
 The real solution is RAID scrubbing:  a low level background process
 that reads every sector of every disk.  All of the real RAID systems
 do this (usually scheduled weekly, or every other week).  Most 3ware
 RAID card don't have this feature.
 
 So rather than not using RAID5 or RAID6 again, you should just not
 use 3ware anymore.
 
 If you use the 3dm2 management interface you can schedule verify and
 rebuild tasks to run on a regular basis.  I think that 7500 series
 controllers can do this, 9500 and 9550's definitely can.
 
 Actually it's all 7/8/9xxx series cards.  The 9xxx series cards also do 
 auto-verify so there's no need to schedule the task.

Sorry, I do not believe that is the case.  I have a 8506-4LP and if
I click on Management - Scheduling in the 3dm web interface it says

(0x0C:0x0017): Scheduling is not supported on this controller model

However you might be able to cheat using the tw_cli port to run
the schedules out of cron rather than native on the card
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Re: usb evdo device

2007-08-28 Thread Stephen Clark

Mike Tancsa wrote:


At 04:56 PM 8/27/2007, Stephen Clark wrote:
 


Hello,

I am trying to get a Novatel Wireless Ovation U720 EVDO modem to 
work with Freebsd.
So far I am not having any luck. When it is plugged in it is 
recognizes as a ugen device it

needs to look like a serial device, as it is sort of like a hayes modem.
   



Hi,
I wonder if it works like some of the other EVDO / EDGE 
devices I have used. If so, try the info on the page below and modify 
the vendor ID info to match your card


http://www.semicomplete.com/blog/geekery/Kyocera-KPC650-EVDO-in-FreeBSD.html

I got it to work for my Kyrocera EVDO as well as GT-MAX EDGE card 
which had a similar UGEN Com base.


---Mike


 

It has a vendor id of 0x1410 and a product id of 0x2110. I tried 
adding these to

usbdevs and ubsa.c but it is still recognized as ugen0.

Plugging it into a linux laptop it is recognize as a ttyUSBn device 
and using ppp we were able to
get connected to the internet. I would like to be able to use it 
with Freebsd 6.2 though.


Thanks,
Steve

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Thanks Mike,

I'll give it a try and report the result.

Steve

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Mpt raid event notification

2007-08-28 Thread Ismael
Hi,

We have a Sun X4100 with Freebsd 6-Stable i386 with a LSI 1064 disk
controller,that uses the mpt driver.

The machine uses two HD SAS 73GB in RAID 1.

The RAID 1 works fine, but the event notification is incomplete and there is
no way to know the status of the RAID, if the status is optimal, degraded or
is Re-Syncing.

We have added in the MPT_CAM.C at the funtion 

mpt_cam_event(struct mpt_softc *mpt, request_t *req,MSG_EVENT_NOTIFY_REPLY
*msg)

 

this code :

 

case MPI_EVENT_INTEGRATED_RAID:

 

   {

   switch ((msg-Data[0]  16)
 0xff)  {

   case
MPI_EVENT_RAID_RC_VOLUME_CREATED :

   mpt_prt(mpt,
Integrated Raid: Volume Created\n);

   break;

   case
MPI_EVENT_RAID_RC_VOLUME_DELETED :

   mpt_prt(mpt,
Integrated Raid: Volume Deleted\n);

   break;

   case
MPI_EVENT_RAID_RC_VOLUME_SETTINGS_CHANGED :

   mpt_prt(mpt,
Integrated Raid: Volume Settings Changed\n);

   break;

   case
MPI_EVENT_RAID_RC_VOLUME_STATUS_CHANGED :

   mpt_prt(mpt,
Integrated Raid: Volume Status Changed\n);

   break;

   case
MPI_EVENT_RAID_RC_VOLUME_PHYSDISK_CHANGED :

   mpt_prt(mpt,
Integrated Raid: Volume Physdisk Changed\n);

   break;

   case
MPI_EVENT_RAID_RC_PHYSDISK_CREATED :

   mpt_prt(mpt,
Integrated Raid: Physdisk Created\n);

   break;

   case
MPI_EVENT_RAID_RC_PHYSDISK_DELETED :

   mpt_prt(mpt,
Integrated Raid: Physdisk Deleted\n);

   break;

   case
MPI_EVENT_RAID_RC_PHYSDISK_SETTINGS_CHANGED :

   mpt_prt(mpt,
Integrated Raid: Physdisk Settings Changed\n);

   break;

   case
MPI_EVENT_RAID_RC_PHYSDISK_STATUS_CHANGED :

   mpt_prt(mpt,
Integrated Raid: Physdisk Status Changed\n);

   break;

   case
MPI_EVENT_RAID_RC_DOMAIN_VAL_NEEDED :

   mpt_prt(mpt,
Integrated Raid: Domain Validation Needed\n);

   break;

   case
MPI_EVENT_RAID_RC_SMART_DATA :

   mpt_prt(mpt,
Integrated Raid; Smart Data\n);

   break;

   case
MPI_EVENT_RAID_RC_REPLACE_ACTION_STARTED :

   mpt_prt(mpt,
Integrated Raid: Replace Action Started\n);

   break;

   default:

   mpt_prt(mpt,
Integrated Raid\n);

   break;

   }

   break;

}

 

This code tell us that the volume status of the raid has changed,but no the
actual state of the volume (optimal,degraded),and we have no idea how to add
this funcionality in the driver.

Anybody know how to modify the driver to know the actual state of the RAID
volume.

Thanks,

Ismael

 

 

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3ware cards [Was: Re: A little story of failed raid5 (3ware 8000 series)]

2007-08-28 Thread Darren Pilgrim

Gary Palmer wrote:

Darren Pilgrim wrote:

Tom Judge wrote:

If you use the 3dm2 management interface you can schedule verify and
rebuild tasks to run on a regular basis.  I think that 7500 series
controllers can do this, 9500 and 9550's definitely can.


Actually it's all 7/8/9xxx series cards.  The 9xxx series cards also do 
auto-verify so there's no need to schedule the task.


Sorry, I do not believe that is the case.  I have a 8506-4LP and if
I click on Management - Scheduling in the 3dm web interface it says

(0x0C:0x0017): Scheduling is not supported on this controller model

However you might be able to cheat using the tw_cli port to run
the schedules out of cron rather than native on the card


I was talking about the verify task, though I now realize that wasn't 
clear.  Some of the older cards do only support tw_sched.  The ability 
to perform data verification and media scans has been present since the 
7xxx series.


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[OT] Which one is best MTA for me?

2007-08-28 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
Hi,

Recently I am considering to move to another MTA. At one time I was
wondering what mail server big ISP are running. I can't decide postfix
or qmail. 

Which one is best MTA for me?

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Re: [OT] Which one is best MTA for me?

2007-08-28 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 02:17:43AM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
 Recently I am considering to move to another MTA. At one time I was
 wondering what mail server big ISP are running. I can't decide postfix
 or qmail. 

In my opinion, if you want more features with less
work/patching/hacking, go with postfix.  If you're uber-paranoid about
security, go with qmail.

 Which one is best MTA for me?

The only person who's going to be able to answer that question is you.
Asking an entire mailing list this question is quite humourous.  :-)

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Re: [OT] Which one is best MTA for me?

2007-08-28 Thread Clayton Milos
- Original Message - 
From: Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] Which one is best MTA for me?



On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 02:17:43AM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:

Recently I am considering to move to another MTA. At one time I was
wondering what mail server big ISP are running. I can't decide postfix
or qmail.


In my opinion, if you want more features with less
work/patching/hacking, go with postfix.  If you're uber-paranoid about
security, go with qmail.


Which one is best MTA for me?


The only person who's going to be able to answer that question is you.
Asking an entire mailing list this question is quite humourous.  :-)



I've got to go with Jeremy here.
I use qmail with vpopmail not because it's necessarily the best MTA but 
because I know it backwards. I've patched it and tweaked it so it runs like 
lightning but all the patching and tweaking tought me the guts of how it 
runs. If something goes wrong (which has happened two or three times) I can 
get the system back up in a flash, often before people realized that 
anything did go wrong.


I've been meaning to get a postfix/mysql mail server up for a few months now 
but just haven't had the time. A mate of mine runs it and he swears by it. 
From what I've read it's much less I/O intensive than qmail when it gets 
hammered with load but I'm only delivering around 150k emails a month with 
mine so it spends most of it's life yawning.

-Clay

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Re: [OT] Which one is best MTA for me?

2007-08-28 Thread Gaye Abdoulaye Walsimou

Byung-Hee HWANG a écrit :

Hi,



Which one is best MTA for me?

  

May be this one:

authlib: for users  auth
and all in one: smtp,  imap, pop, mailing list management and more
http://www.courier-mta.org/
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Re: [OT] Which one is best MTA for me?

2007-08-28 Thread Claus Guttesen
 Recently I am considering to move to another MTA. At one time I was
 wondering what mail server big ISP are running. I can't decide postfix
 or qmail.

 Which one is best MTA for me?

I've been using postfix since it was called vmailer.

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the gentlest gamester is the soonest winner.

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Re: [OT] Which one is best MTA for me?

2007-08-28 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hi!

 Recently I am considering to move to another MTA. At one time I was
 wondering what mail server big ISP are running. I can't decide postfix
 or qmail. 
 
 Which one is best MTA for me?

Sendmail? It's the best MTA for me ;-)

Maybe your question could be answered in a more helpful way,
if you stated

- which MTA you are currently using
- what you don't like about it, so you want to switch

We are an ISP and we run Sendmail. Works great. I don't like
qmail, because for me it's architecture is even more arcane
than Sendmail's. And it doesn't log all information Sendmail
does - which is important for us when tracing lost mails.
(remote MTA queue ID, for example)

I hear lots of good things about postfix, but switch for
the sake of switching? I already have enough work ;-)

Kind regards,
Patrick M. Hausen
Leiter Netzwerke und Sicherheit
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Re: [OT] Which one is best MTA for me?

2007-08-28 Thread Tobias Roth
Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
 I can't decide postfix
 or qmail. 

Use exim then.
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Re: [OT] Which one is best MTA for me?

2007-08-28 Thread Andy Greenwood

Patrick M. Hausen wrote:

Hi!

  

Recently I am considering to move to another MTA. At one time I was
wondering what mail server big ISP are running. I can't decide postfix
or qmail. 


Which one is best MTA for me?



Sendmail? It's the best MTA for me ;-)

Maybe your question could be answered in a more helpful way,
if you stated

- which MTA you are currently using
- what you don't like about it, so you want to switch
  


I agree. we can't determine what's best for you unless you tell us what 
you're lacking. the way you phrased your question, you'll just get a 
list of what other people like, which may or may not be well suited for 
your application.

We are an ISP and we run Sendmail. Works great. I don't like
qmail, because for me it's architecture is even more arcane
than Sendmail's. And it doesn't log all information Sendmail
does - which is important for us when tracing lost mails.
(remote MTA queue ID, for example)
  


I work at an ISP and we use sendmail here as well. I use postfix at 
home. Both work quite well.

I hear lots of good things about postfix, but switch for
the sake of switching? I already have enough work ;-)

Kind regards,
Patrick M. Hausen
Leiter Netzwerke und Sicherheit
  


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DELL SC430 ahd0: Adaptec 39320A Ultra320 SCSI adapter

2007-08-28 Thread raul . rodriguez
Hello
Look. I have a problem with an Integris CathLab System.
It only uses 18GBytes HDD. And nowadays you can figure how difficult is to
get such as discs. Can you tell me a way to limit by Firmware the capacity
of a brand new Disc let says 73 GBytes to just 18GBytes.
By the way, and sure that’s the way Philips works when you order a new disc.
Bye
Raul


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Re: [OT] Which one is best MTA for me?

2007-08-28 Thread Eric

Tobias Roth wrote:

Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:

I can't decide postfix
or qmail. 


Use exim then.



heres a bunch of reasons to avoid qmail:

http://www-dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/~ma/qmail-bugs.html

I started out with qmail, then went to postfix after getting bit by 
qmail too many times. I shouldnt have to assemble 40 patches from 40 
people to make qmail work properly.


I like postfix alot. it works out of the box, has options for everything 
and the author updates his code and knows he isnt infallible.


theres more interesting facts about DJBs software on the maradns 
homepage if anyone is interested.


you really cant go wrong with postfix.
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Re: [OT] Which one is best MTA for me?

2007-08-28 Thread Patrick M. Hausen
Hi!

On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 01:58:36PM -0500, Eric wrote:

  theres more interesting facts about DJBs software on the maradns homepage if 
  anyone is interested.

Jehova! Jehova! DJB's software is guaranteed bug free

SCNR,
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top for IO stats

2007-08-28 Thread Decibel!
Is there anything like top, but for filesystem activity? Google hasn't
turned up anything...
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Re: top for IO stats

2007-08-28 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 02:47:08PM -0500, Decibel! wrote:
 Is there anything like top, but for filesystem activity? Google hasn't
 turned up anything...

I think what you're looking for is iostat(8).  Keep in mind that this
doesn't break things down per process however.  fstat(1) would work
for that.

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Re: top for IO stats

2007-08-28 Thread David Malone
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 01:14:30PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 02:47:08PM -0500, Decibel! wrote:
  Is there anything like top, but for filesystem activity? Google hasn't
  turned up anything...
 
 I think what you're looking for is iostat(8).  Keep in mind that this
 doesn't break things down per process however.  fstat(1) would work
 for that.

You can get some per-process I/O stats by starting top and pressing
m to put it in io mode.

David.
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Re: top for IO stats

2007-08-28 Thread Ken Menzel
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From: Decibel! [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 3:47 PM
Subject: top for IO stats
Is there anything like top, but for filesystem activity? Google hasn't
turned up anything...
--
How about --  top -mio

man top 


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Re: top for IO stats

2007-08-28 Thread Decibel!
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 11:26:00PM +0200, Christopher Arnold wrote:
 On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Decibel! wrote:
 
 Is there anything like top, but for filesystem activity? Google hasn't
 turned up anything...
 
 Maybe you are looking for gstat?

Actually, top -mio is exactly what I was looking for. Never knew top
could do that...
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Re: top for IO stats

2007-08-28 Thread Christopher Arnold



On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Decibel! wrote:


Is there anything like top, but for filesystem activity? Google hasn't
turned up anything...


Maybe you are looking for gstat?


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Re: Recent PAM changes worth an UPDATING entry?

2007-08-28 Thread mato

Doug Barton wrote:

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007, martinko wrote:


Doug Barton wrote:

Howdy,

I just rebuilt and installed my world on my 6-stable box, and ran 
into a snag. Like a lot of users I use -DNO_CLEAN in buildworld 
since this is a very slow box that I use mostly as a file/dns 
server. After rebooting I could ssh in ok (probably because I don't 
use PAM for sshd) but couldn't su, or log in at the console.


After looking at the errors, I figured out that I needed to 
completely recompile stuff related to PAM. Just to be on the safe 
side I did libpam, login, su, and getty. After that I was able to 
log in normally from the console, and su from either terminal.


IMO this is worth an entry in UPDATING since I probably won't be the 
only user who stumbles across this.


Doug



Doug,

Could it possibly be related to the following issue of mine ?? :
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-July/153137.html 



Sure sounds that way. Have you tried doing clean recompiles of those 
programs?


Doug



Doug,

I'm not quite sure why after buildworld  installworld I would need to 
recompile some stuff once again (apart from ports, if necessary, of 
course).  Does it have something to do with -DNO_CLEAN and what exactly 
?  Anyway, I didn't use it while doing my buildworld.


Anyway, I may try what you suggest (asap).  Meanwhile, could you pls 
explain where you looked at for errors and what exactly you did 
afterwards ??  (I was at lost myself)


Cheers,

Martin
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Re: portaudit

2007-08-28 Thread gareth
On Mon 2007-08-27 (17:09), Chuck Swiger wrote:
 This might imply that your system clock on that machine is wrong...?  
 Double-check what it thinks is the date.

date and time is synced.

 Also, make sure you don't have some old version stuck in an intervening 
 proxy, if such is being used.

it seems like this may be the case. i downloaded
http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/auditfile.tbz via another route and got
the correct date. will get hold've my proxy admin, thanx.
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Re: [OT] Which one is best MTA for me?

2007-08-28 Thread David Magda

On Aug 28, 2007, at 13:46, Clayton Milos wrote:

I use qmail with vpopmail not because it's necessarily the best MTA  
but because I know it backwards. I've patched it and tweaked it so  
it runs like lightning but all the patching and tweaking tought me  
the guts of how it runs. If something goes wrong (which has  
happened two or three times) I can get the system back up in a  
flash, often before people realized that anything did go wrong.


What happens if you win the lottery and decide to leave your place of  
employment? What does the organization do when the next person comes  
in and there's this high-specialized set up?


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Re: top for IO stats

2007-08-28 Thread Nicolas Szalay
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:47:08 -0500
Decibel! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there anything like top, but for filesystem activity? Google hasn't
 turned up anything...

gstat ?

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Re: [OT] Which one is best MTA for me?

2007-08-28 Thread LI Xin
Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Recently I am considering to move to another MTA. At one time I was
 wondering what mail server big ISP are running. I can't decide postfix
 or qmail. 
 
 Which one is best MTA for me?

We (one of the largest ICP company in China and provides some billions
of free e-mail accounts) has replaced our locally hacked qmail with
postfix in 2005.  I and one of our sys-op has accomplished all of the
necessary migration work (coding to re-implement our features, testing,
and migration itself) within three weeks, so once you have confirmed
what your requirement is, it's not very hard to do.

I do not want to say simply that you will want postfix, but I would like
to explain the reasons why we have did the migration:

 - Performance.
qmail uses about 3 times of file I/O operation for each mail delivery,
compared with postfix.  For a busy MX server this means that you have to
prepare more servers to do the same job.

 - Features.
Most of extension to qmail has to be done by patching.  It's true that
there is a lot of qmail patches floating around, but you have to
carefully maintain a local qmail tree.  Postfix has a lot of built-in
anti-spam and other features, and it is relatively easy to implement new
feature with Python/Twisted through Postfix's interface - no patch
needed for postfix itself.

 - Manageability.
Our system administration team used to be very familiar with qmail.
However, for large ISP/ICPs, qmail fails to solve the following
essential problems that postfix does not have:
  - Hard to reconstruct mail queue after damage
In postfix this can be done with 'postfix check'.
  - Have to watch its queue situation
Once you got the queue stuck with a lot (200,000+) e-mails that can
not be delivered temporarily, e.g. due to a backend hardware issue, all
e-mails would be delivered very slowly, and incoming e-mail would make
the situation worse.  We used to have a monitoring script that adds an
ipfw rule to block all subsequent incoming mail to work around this
issue.  With postfix, stuck e-mails are stored in separate queue.
   - and a lot more...

 - Maintainability.
Extending postfix for your own need is easy, our new anti-spam system is
primarily written as a policy/filtering/table lookup daemon with
Python/Twisted, making the code much more easy to understand and
maintain.  It's not easy for someone to be able to pick up the qmail
patch due to the coding style and lack of comments.  More importantly,
postfix is being actively maintained, but qmail is not.

I'm not sure about the problem you are having.  If you are going to set
up a new mail server (cluster) then don't use qmail, it would be a
nightmare if your system grows.  Postfix is a good choice, and there are
some other choices, e.g. sendmail, exim, etc.

Cheers,
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