Re: Recent PAM changes worth an UPDATING entry?
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007, martinko wrote: Doug Barton wrote: Howdy, I just rebuilt and installed my world on my 6-stable box, and ran into a snag. Like a lot of users I use -DNO_CLEAN in buildworld since this is a very slow box that I use mostly as a file/dns server. After rebooting I could ssh in ok (probably because I don't use PAM for sshd) but couldn't su, or log in at the console. After looking at the errors, I figured out that I needed to completely recompile stuff related to PAM. Just to be on the safe side I did libpam, login, su, and getty. After that I was able to log in normally from the console, and su from either terminal. IMO this is worth an entry in UPDATING since I probably won't be the only user who stumbles across this. Doug Doug, Could it possibly be related to the following issue of mine ?? : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-July/153137.html Sure sounds that way. Have you tried doing clean recompiles of those programs? Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mpt problem
Hello. We have a very stange problem with LSILogic 1030 Ultra4 Adapter. There is an information about it: mpt0: LSILogic 1030 Ultra4 Adapter port 0x4000-0x40ff mem 0xdc12-0xdc13,0xdc10-0xdc11 irq 18 at device 3.0 on pci3 mpt0: [GIANT-LOCKED] mpt0: MPI Version=1.2.14.0 Everything works fine, but time to time disk operations hangs and we have this messages in log: mpt0: request 0xc4bd81f0:196 timed out for ccb 0xc4dedc00 (req-ccb 0xc4dedc00) mpt0: attempting to abort req 0xc4bd81f0:196 function 0 mpt0: completing timedout/aborted req 0xc4bd81f0:196 mpt0: abort of req 0xc4bd81f0:0 completed mpt0: request 0xc4bd8220:198 timed out for ccb 0xc4dedc00 (req-ccb 0xc4dedc00) mpt0: attempting to abort req 0xc4bd8220:198 function 0 mpt0: mpt_wait_req(1) timed out mpt0: mpt_recover_commands: abort timed-out. Resetting controller mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x0 mpt0: completing timedout/aborted req 0xc4bd8220:198 (da0:mpt0:0:0:0): lost device (da0:mpt0:0:0:0): Invalidating pack (da0:mpt0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x4a, scsi status == 0x0 (da0:mpt0:0:0:0): removing device entry SCSI-bus connected to Areca RAID-controller and this controller works fine with MS Windows. -- V.Melnik ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A little story of failed raid5 (3ware 8000 series)
On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 11:38:19AM -0700, Darren Pilgrim wrote: Tom Judge wrote: Tom Samplonius wrote: The real solution is RAID scrubbing: a low level background process that reads every sector of every disk. All of the real RAID systems do this (usually scheduled weekly, or every other week). Most 3ware RAID card don't have this feature. So rather than not using RAID5 or RAID6 again, you should just not use 3ware anymore. If you use the 3dm2 management interface you can schedule verify and rebuild tasks to run on a regular basis. I think that 7500 series controllers can do this, 9500 and 9550's definitely can. Actually it's all 7/8/9xxx series cards. The 9xxx series cards also do auto-verify so there's no need to schedule the task. Sorry, I do not believe that is the case. I have a 8506-4LP and if I click on Management - Scheduling in the 3dm web interface it says (0x0C:0x0017): Scheduling is not supported on this controller model However you might be able to cheat using the tw_cli port to run the schedules out of cron rather than native on the card ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: usb evdo device
Mike Tancsa wrote: At 04:56 PM 8/27/2007, Stephen Clark wrote: Hello, I am trying to get a Novatel Wireless Ovation U720 EVDO modem to work with Freebsd. So far I am not having any luck. When it is plugged in it is recognizes as a ugen device it needs to look like a serial device, as it is sort of like a hayes modem. Hi, I wonder if it works like some of the other EVDO / EDGE devices I have used. If so, try the info on the page below and modify the vendor ID info to match your card http://www.semicomplete.com/blog/geekery/Kyocera-KPC650-EVDO-in-FreeBSD.html I got it to work for my Kyrocera EVDO as well as GT-MAX EDGE card which had a similar UGEN Com base. ---Mike It has a vendor id of 0x1410 and a product id of 0x2110. I tried adding these to usbdevs and ubsa.c but it is still recognized as ugen0. Plugging it into a linux laptop it is recognize as a ttyUSBn device and using ppp we were able to get connected to the internet. I would like to be able to use it with Freebsd 6.2 though. Thanks, Steve -- They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. (Ben Franklin) The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases. (Thomas Jefferson) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Mike, I'll give it a try and report the result. Steve -- They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. (Ben Franklin) The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases. (Thomas Jefferson) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mpt raid event notification
Hi, We have a Sun X4100 with Freebsd 6-Stable i386 with a LSI 1064 disk controller,that uses the mpt driver. The machine uses two HD SAS 73GB in RAID 1. The RAID 1 works fine, but the event notification is incomplete and there is no way to know the status of the RAID, if the status is optimal, degraded or is Re-Syncing. We have added in the MPT_CAM.C at the funtion mpt_cam_event(struct mpt_softc *mpt, request_t *req,MSG_EVENT_NOTIFY_REPLY *msg) this code : case MPI_EVENT_INTEGRATED_RAID: { switch ((msg-Data[0] 16) 0xff) { case MPI_EVENT_RAID_RC_VOLUME_CREATED : mpt_prt(mpt, Integrated Raid: Volume Created\n); break; case MPI_EVENT_RAID_RC_VOLUME_DELETED : mpt_prt(mpt, Integrated Raid: Volume Deleted\n); break; case MPI_EVENT_RAID_RC_VOLUME_SETTINGS_CHANGED : mpt_prt(mpt, Integrated Raid: Volume Settings Changed\n); break; case MPI_EVENT_RAID_RC_VOLUME_STATUS_CHANGED : mpt_prt(mpt, Integrated Raid: Volume Status Changed\n); break; case MPI_EVENT_RAID_RC_VOLUME_PHYSDISK_CHANGED : mpt_prt(mpt, Integrated Raid: Volume Physdisk Changed\n); break; case MPI_EVENT_RAID_RC_PHYSDISK_CREATED : mpt_prt(mpt, Integrated Raid: Physdisk Created\n); break; case MPI_EVENT_RAID_RC_PHYSDISK_DELETED : mpt_prt(mpt, Integrated Raid: Physdisk Deleted\n); break; case MPI_EVENT_RAID_RC_PHYSDISK_SETTINGS_CHANGED : mpt_prt(mpt, Integrated Raid: Physdisk Settings Changed\n); break; case MPI_EVENT_RAID_RC_PHYSDISK_STATUS_CHANGED : mpt_prt(mpt, Integrated Raid: Physdisk Status Changed\n); break; case MPI_EVENT_RAID_RC_DOMAIN_VAL_NEEDED : mpt_prt(mpt, Integrated Raid: Domain Validation Needed\n); break; case MPI_EVENT_RAID_RC_SMART_DATA : mpt_prt(mpt, Integrated Raid; Smart Data\n); break; case MPI_EVENT_RAID_RC_REPLACE_ACTION_STARTED : mpt_prt(mpt, Integrated Raid: Replace Action Started\n); break; default: mpt_prt(mpt, Integrated Raid\n); break; } break; } This code tell us that the volume status of the raid has changed,but no the actual state of the volume (optimal,degraded),and we have no idea how to add this funcionality in the driver. Anybody know how to modify the driver to know the actual state of the RAID volume. Thanks, Ismael ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3ware cards [Was: Re: A little story of failed raid5 (3ware 8000 series)]
Gary Palmer wrote: Darren Pilgrim wrote: Tom Judge wrote: If you use the 3dm2 management interface you can schedule verify and rebuild tasks to run on a regular basis. I think that 7500 series controllers can do this, 9500 and 9550's definitely can. Actually it's all 7/8/9xxx series cards. The 9xxx series cards also do auto-verify so there's no need to schedule the task. Sorry, I do not believe that is the case. I have a 8506-4LP and if I click on Management - Scheduling in the 3dm web interface it says (0x0C:0x0017): Scheduling is not supported on this controller model However you might be able to cheat using the tw_cli port to run the schedules out of cron rather than native on the card I was talking about the verify task, though I now realize that wasn't clear. Some of the older cards do only support tw_sched. The ability to perform data verification and media scans has been present since the 7xxx series. -- Darren Pilgrim ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Which one is best MTA for me?
Hi, Recently I am considering to move to another MTA. At one time I was wondering what mail server big ISP are running. I can't decide postfix or qmail. Which one is best MTA for me? -- Byung-Hee ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Which one is best MTA for me?
On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 02:17:43AM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: Recently I am considering to move to another MTA. At one time I was wondering what mail server big ISP are running. I can't decide postfix or qmail. In my opinion, if you want more features with less work/patching/hacking, go with postfix. If you're uber-paranoid about security, go with qmail. Which one is best MTA for me? The only person who's going to be able to answer that question is you. Asking an entire mailing list this question is quite humourous. :-) -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Which one is best MTA for me?
- Original Message - From: Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Which one is best MTA for me? On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 02:17:43AM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: Recently I am considering to move to another MTA. At one time I was wondering what mail server big ISP are running. I can't decide postfix or qmail. In my opinion, if you want more features with less work/patching/hacking, go with postfix. If you're uber-paranoid about security, go with qmail. Which one is best MTA for me? The only person who's going to be able to answer that question is you. Asking an entire mailing list this question is quite humourous. :-) I've got to go with Jeremy here. I use qmail with vpopmail not because it's necessarily the best MTA but because I know it backwards. I've patched it and tweaked it so it runs like lightning but all the patching and tweaking tought me the guts of how it runs. If something goes wrong (which has happened two or three times) I can get the system back up in a flash, often before people realized that anything did go wrong. I've been meaning to get a postfix/mysql mail server up for a few months now but just haven't had the time. A mate of mine runs it and he swears by it. From what I've read it's much less I/O intensive than qmail when it gets hammered with load but I'm only delivering around 150k emails a month with mine so it spends most of it's life yawning. -Clay ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Which one is best MTA for me?
Byung-Hee HWANG a écrit : Hi, Which one is best MTA for me? May be this one: authlib: for users auth and all in one: smtp, imap, pop, mailing list management and more http://www.courier-mta.org/ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Which one is best MTA for me?
Recently I am considering to move to another MTA. At one time I was wondering what mail server big ISP are running. I can't decide postfix or qmail. Which one is best MTA for me? I've been using postfix since it was called vmailer. -- regards Claus When lenity and cruelty play for a kingdom, the gentlest gamester is the soonest winner. Shakespeare ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Which one is best MTA for me?
Hi! Recently I am considering to move to another MTA. At one time I was wondering what mail server big ISP are running. I can't decide postfix or qmail. Which one is best MTA for me? Sendmail? It's the best MTA for me ;-) Maybe your question could be answered in a more helpful way, if you stated - which MTA you are currently using - what you don't like about it, so you want to switch We are an ISP and we run Sendmail. Works great. I don't like qmail, because for me it's architecture is even more arcane than Sendmail's. And it doesn't log all information Sendmail does - which is important for us when tracing lost mails. (remote MTA queue ID, for example) I hear lots of good things about postfix, but switch for the sake of switching? I already have enough work ;-) Kind regards, Patrick M. Hausen Leiter Netzwerke und Sicherheit -- punkt.de GmbH * Vorholzstr. 25 * 76137 Karlsruhe Tel. 0721 9109 0 * Fax 0721 9109 100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.punkt.de Gf: Jürgen Egeling AG Mannheim 108285 ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Which one is best MTA for me?
Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: I can't decide postfix or qmail. Use exim then. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Which one is best MTA for me?
Patrick M. Hausen wrote: Hi! Recently I am considering to move to another MTA. At one time I was wondering what mail server big ISP are running. I can't decide postfix or qmail. Which one is best MTA for me? Sendmail? It's the best MTA for me ;-) Maybe your question could be answered in a more helpful way, if you stated - which MTA you are currently using - what you don't like about it, so you want to switch I agree. we can't determine what's best for you unless you tell us what you're lacking. the way you phrased your question, you'll just get a list of what other people like, which may or may not be well suited for your application. We are an ISP and we run Sendmail. Works great. I don't like qmail, because for me it's architecture is even more arcane than Sendmail's. And it doesn't log all information Sendmail does - which is important for us when tracing lost mails. (remote MTA queue ID, for example) I work at an ISP and we use sendmail here as well. I use postfix at home. Both work quite well. I hear lots of good things about postfix, but switch for the sake of switching? I already have enough work ;-) Kind regards, Patrick M. Hausen Leiter Netzwerke und Sicherheit ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DELL SC430 ahd0: Adaptec 39320A Ultra320 SCSI adapter
Hello Look. I have a problem with an Integris CathLab System. It only uses 18GBytes HDD. And nowadays you can figure how difficult is to get such as discs. Can you tell me a way to limit by Firmware the capacity of a brand new Disc let says 73 GBytes to just 18GBytes. By the way, and sure that’s the way Philips works when you order a new disc. Bye Raul ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Which one is best MTA for me?
Tobias Roth wrote: Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: I can't decide postfix or qmail. Use exim then. heres a bunch of reasons to avoid qmail: http://www-dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/~ma/qmail-bugs.html I started out with qmail, then went to postfix after getting bit by qmail too many times. I shouldnt have to assemble 40 patches from 40 people to make qmail work properly. I like postfix alot. it works out of the box, has options for everything and the author updates his code and knows he isnt infallible. theres more interesting facts about DJBs software on the maradns homepage if anyone is interested. you really cant go wrong with postfix. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Which one is best MTA for me?
Hi! On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 01:58:36PM -0500, Eric wrote: theres more interesting facts about DJBs software on the maradns homepage if anyone is interested. Jehova! Jehova! DJB's software is guaranteed bug free SCNR, Patrick -- punkt.de GmbH * Vorholzstr. 25 * 76137 Karlsruhe Tel. 0721 9109 0 * Fax 0721 9109 100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.punkt.de Gf: Jürgen Egeling AG Mannheim 108285 ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
top for IO stats
Is there anything like top, but for filesystem activity? Google hasn't turned up anything... -- Decibel!, aka Jim C. Nasby, Database Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Give your computer some brain candy! www.distributed.net Team #1828 pgpY61uC9W59A.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: top for IO stats
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 02:47:08PM -0500, Decibel! wrote: Is there anything like top, but for filesystem activity? Google hasn't turned up anything... I think what you're looking for is iostat(8). Keep in mind that this doesn't break things down per process however. fstat(1) would work for that. -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: top for IO stats
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 01:14:30PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 02:47:08PM -0500, Decibel! wrote: Is there anything like top, but for filesystem activity? Google hasn't turned up anything... I think what you're looking for is iostat(8). Keep in mind that this doesn't break things down per process however. fstat(1) would work for that. You can get some per-process I/O stats by starting top and pressing m to put it in io mode. David. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: top for IO stats
Original Message - From: Decibel! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 3:47 PM Subject: top for IO stats Is there anything like top, but for filesystem activity? Google hasn't turned up anything... -- How about -- top -mio man top ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: top for IO stats
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 11:26:00PM +0200, Christopher Arnold wrote: On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Decibel! wrote: Is there anything like top, but for filesystem activity? Google hasn't turned up anything... Maybe you are looking for gstat? Actually, top -mio is exactly what I was looking for. Never knew top could do that... -- Decibel!, aka Jim C. Nasby, Database Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Give your computer some brain candy! www.distributed.net Team #1828 pgpFuKI7ftPio.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: top for IO stats
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Decibel! wrote: Is there anything like top, but for filesystem activity? Google hasn't turned up anything... Maybe you are looking for gstat? /Chris -- http://www.arnold.se/ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recent PAM changes worth an UPDATING entry?
Doug Barton wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2007, martinko wrote: Doug Barton wrote: Howdy, I just rebuilt and installed my world on my 6-stable box, and ran into a snag. Like a lot of users I use -DNO_CLEAN in buildworld since this is a very slow box that I use mostly as a file/dns server. After rebooting I could ssh in ok (probably because I don't use PAM for sshd) but couldn't su, or log in at the console. After looking at the errors, I figured out that I needed to completely recompile stuff related to PAM. Just to be on the safe side I did libpam, login, su, and getty. After that I was able to log in normally from the console, and su from either terminal. IMO this is worth an entry in UPDATING since I probably won't be the only user who stumbles across this. Doug Doug, Could it possibly be related to the following issue of mine ?? : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-July/153137.html Sure sounds that way. Have you tried doing clean recompiles of those programs? Doug Doug, I'm not quite sure why after buildworld installworld I would need to recompile some stuff once again (apart from ports, if necessary, of course). Does it have something to do with -DNO_CLEAN and what exactly ? Anyway, I didn't use it while doing my buildworld. Anyway, I may try what you suggest (asap). Meanwhile, could you pls explain where you looked at for errors and what exactly you did afterwards ?? (I was at lost myself) Cheers, Martin ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portaudit
On Mon 2007-08-27 (17:09), Chuck Swiger wrote: This might imply that your system clock on that machine is wrong...? Double-check what it thinks is the date. date and time is synced. Also, make sure you don't have some old version stuck in an intervening proxy, if such is being used. it seems like this may be the case. i downloaded http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/auditfile.tbz via another route and got the correct date. will get hold've my proxy admin, thanx. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Which one is best MTA for me?
On Aug 28, 2007, at 13:46, Clayton Milos wrote: I use qmail with vpopmail not because it's necessarily the best MTA but because I know it backwards. I've patched it and tweaked it so it runs like lightning but all the patching and tweaking tought me the guts of how it runs. If something goes wrong (which has happened two or three times) I can get the system back up in a flash, often before people realized that anything did go wrong. What happens if you win the lottery and decide to leave your place of employment? What does the organization do when the next person comes in and there's this high-specialized set up? ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: top for IO stats
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:47:08 -0500 Decibel! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anything like top, but for filesystem activity? Google hasn't turned up anything... gstat ? ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Which one is best MTA for me?
Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: Hi, Recently I am considering to move to another MTA. At one time I was wondering what mail server big ISP are running. I can't decide postfix or qmail. Which one is best MTA for me? We (one of the largest ICP company in China and provides some billions of free e-mail accounts) has replaced our locally hacked qmail with postfix in 2005. I and one of our sys-op has accomplished all of the necessary migration work (coding to re-implement our features, testing, and migration itself) within three weeks, so once you have confirmed what your requirement is, it's not very hard to do. I do not want to say simply that you will want postfix, but I would like to explain the reasons why we have did the migration: - Performance. qmail uses about 3 times of file I/O operation for each mail delivery, compared with postfix. For a busy MX server this means that you have to prepare more servers to do the same job. - Features. Most of extension to qmail has to be done by patching. It's true that there is a lot of qmail patches floating around, but you have to carefully maintain a local qmail tree. Postfix has a lot of built-in anti-spam and other features, and it is relatively easy to implement new feature with Python/Twisted through Postfix's interface - no patch needed for postfix itself. - Manageability. Our system administration team used to be very familiar with qmail. However, for large ISP/ICPs, qmail fails to solve the following essential problems that postfix does not have: - Hard to reconstruct mail queue after damage In postfix this can be done with 'postfix check'. - Have to watch its queue situation Once you got the queue stuck with a lot (200,000+) e-mails that can not be delivered temporarily, e.g. due to a backend hardware issue, all e-mails would be delivered very slowly, and incoming e-mail would make the situation worse. We used to have a monitoring script that adds an ipfw rule to block all subsequent incoming mail to work around this issue. With postfix, stuck e-mails are stored in separate queue. - and a lot more... - Maintainability. Extending postfix for your own need is easy, our new anti-spam system is primarily written as a policy/filtering/table lookup daemon with Python/Twisted, making the code much more easy to understand and maintain. It's not easy for someone to be able to pick up the qmail patch due to the coding style and lack of comments. More importantly, postfix is being actively maintained, but qmail is not. I'm not sure about the problem you are having. If you are going to set up a new mail server (cluster) then don't use qmail, it would be a nightmare if your system grows. Postfix is a good choice, and there are some other choices, e.g. sendmail, exim, etc. Cheers, -- Xin LI [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.delphij.net/ FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature