Re: ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA type errors with 7.0-RC1

2008-01-26 Thread Henri Hennebert

Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 06:17:24PM -0700, Joe Peterson wrote:

Glad you got it back!  Yes, when I was first playing with ZFS, I noticed
that booting between single and multi user mode could make the pools
invisible.  Import seemed to bring them back...


I did go into single-user mode and attempt to do ZFS-related commands,
which might explain the no datasets available once I was back in
multiuser!  I would classify that as a bug, and one which is going to
cause all sorts of hair-pulling for administrators in the future.  I
wonder what it's caused by.


In single user / is read only and so /boot/zfs/zpool.cache can't be 
created/updated


Henri



The import technique I found on a forum somewhere, or possibly on a
Solaris mailing list.  I was really sweating there for a moment...


So, is the disk toast, or can you still read anything from it (part
table, etc.)?


The ad6 disk (/backups) fsck'd cleanly without any missing files or
anomalies.

The ZFS pool that has two striped disks (ad8 and ad10) is fully intact
too, with no loss of data that I can see.  I'll have to run a scrub
after I'm done copying data over to ad6, just to make sure though.



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Re: Well-supported SAS RAID card for 6.3?

2008-01-26 Thread Scott Long

Josh Endries wrote:

Hello,

I'm buying a new server and will put 6.3 on it and would like to use 
SAS; normally I use 3ware SATA. I've been reading a lot including man 
pages but can't seem to find definitive information on SAS cards that 
are well-supported and work well. I've found reports that cards listed 
in man pages don't seem to work, and confusion about chips/cards. Does 
anyone have experience with recent SAS cards or machines with integrated 
chips?




LSI, Highpoint, Areca, 3ware, and Adaptec are all well supported in FreeBSD.

Scott
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dmesg : no output on 1 of 2 7-stable boxes

2008-01-26 Thread Julian H. Stacey
One of 2 laptops running 7-stable shows nothing with dmesg, (other is OK).
Needs fresh eyes please, as I've already checked all this:
   - Text is in /var/log/messages, readable to normal users.
   - df shows enough disc
   - I patched out all of loader.conf, except essential hw.ata.ata_dma=0
(that was to remove any *verbose* that might be overflowing
   - I tried loader.confkern.msgbuf=64000   
   - Tried a Generic kernel
   - I've recompiled  installed dmesg  kernels
   - Haven't done a make world (slow box), but repeated make all ; make install
 with each day's new source.
   - Both hosts running same /usr/src from yesterday:
   /pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM/src-7/src-7.0102.gz
   Jan 25 15:25 TZ=GMT+01:00
   - cd /etc;grep dmesg *
rc.conf:dmesg_enable=YES  # Save dmesg(8) to /var/run/dmesg.boot
Binary file rc.d matches# Just the standard /etc/rc.d/dmesg
rc.local:/sbin/dmesg  /tmp/dmesg.rc.local
# -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  0 Jan 25 14:01 /tmp/dmesg.rc.local
   - mergemaster -sicvP 
Any ideas please ?
Julian
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Re: ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA type errors with 7.0-RC1

2008-01-26 Thread Joe Peterson
I performed a ZFS scrub, which finished yesterday, and no new
/var/log/messages errors were reported during that time.  However, the scrub
found something interesting:


crater# zpool status -v
  pool: tank
 state: ONLINE
status: One or more devices has experienced an error resulting in data
corruption.  Applications may be affected.
action: Restore the file in question if possible.  Otherwise restore the
entire pool from backup.
   see: http://www.sun.com/msg/ZFS-8000-8A
 scrub: scrub completed with 1 errors on Fri Jan 25 12:52:32 2008
config:

NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM
tankONLINE   1 3 2
  ad0s1dONLINE   1 3 2

errors: Permanent errors have been detected in the following files:


/home/joe/music/jukebox/christmas/Esquivel/Merry_XMas_from_the_SpaceAge_
Bachelor_Pad/07-Snowfall.mp3



Note that I have not touched this file since copying it to this drive.

So, it seems one file failed a checksum check during the scrub.  I now
(expectedly) get errors trying to read this file - probably ZFS indicating the
condition.  When I just logged in tonight, I got two more /var/log/messages
disk messages about WRITE_DMA48 TIMEOUT/FAILURE - might be a coincidence (just
as I was typing my password).

Also, smartctl still shows PASSED, however, this is interesting:

195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   061   046   000Old_age   Always
  -   9070

The number is much *smaller* now!  It was 6 a few minutes before this...
wrap around?  Hmm, I'm really not sure, at this point, what is going on.

So I have started a SeaTools (disk scanner from Seagate) long test of the
drive.  The short test passed already.  The results should be interesting.  If
it finds nothing wrong, I am going to start to wonder if I am experiencing ZFS
bugs that just happen to look like drive problems.  I already did a long read,
under linux, of disk contents, and got no messages about anything wrong.

If I can turn on any debugging info to help determine if this is
software-related, let me know the magic keywords to use.  :)

-Joe
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Re: ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA type errors with 7.0-RC1

2008-01-26 Thread Joe Peterson
Joe Peterson wrote:
 So I have started a SeaTools (disk scanner from Seagate) long test of the
 drive.  The short test passed already.  The results should be interesting.  If
 it finds nothing wrong, I am going to start to wonder if I am experiencing ZFS
 bugs that just happen to look like drive problems.  I already did a long read,
 under linux, of disk contents, and got no messages about anything wrong.

Update: both SHORT and LONG tests passed for this drive in SeaTools.
Hmph...  the mystery remains.
-Joe
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Re: Well-supported SAS RAID card for 6.3?

2008-01-26 Thread Josh Endries

Hi Scott,

Scott Long wrote:
LSI, Highpoint, Areca, 3ware, and Adaptec are all well supported in 
FreeBSD.


Are they? I don't see any reference to the LSI8708, LSI or LSI1068 in the 
man pages I can find...does anyone use these? Some people have problems with the 
PERC 6/i (which I think is an LSI), which makes me wonder. 3ware says their SAS 
driver is in beta...I dunno, I'm not trying to be confrontational, maybe I'm 
just overly skeptical or paranoid or something. I'm leaning towards 3ware right 
now, but still looking for success/failure stories.


Thanks for the responses!

J
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Re: ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA type errors with 7.0-RC1

2008-01-26 Thread Ivan Voras

Henri Hennebert wrote:

Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 06:17:24PM -0700, Joe Peterson wrote:

Glad you got it back!  Yes, when I was first playing with ZFS, I noticed
that booting between single and multi user mode could make the pools
invisible.  Import seemed to bring them back...


I did go into single-user mode and attempt to do ZFS-related commands,
which might explain the no datasets available once I was back in
multiuser!  I would classify that as a bug, and one which is going to
cause all sorts of hair-pulling for administrators in the future.  I
wonder what it's caused by.


In single user / is read only and so /boot/zfs/zpool.cache can't be 
created/updated


But it's still readable. The issue is that hostid isn't set (by 
/etc/rc.d/hostid).




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Re: ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA type errors with 7.0-RC1

2008-01-26 Thread Ivan Voras

Joe Peterson wrote:

Joe Peterson wrote:

So I have started a SeaTools (disk scanner from Seagate) long test of the
drive.  The short test passed already.  The results should be interesting.  If
it finds nothing wrong, I am going to start to wonder if I am experiencing ZFS
bugs that just happen to look like drive problems.  I already did a long read,
under linux, of disk contents, and got no messages about anything wrong.


Update: both SHORT and LONG tests passed for this drive in SeaTools.
Hmph...  the mystery remains.


Were both tests done in the same machine (actually, I mean the same PSU)?



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Re: ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA type errors with 7.0-RC1

2008-01-26 Thread Richard Todd
Joe Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Glad you got it back!  Yes, when I was first playing with ZFS, I noticed
 that booting between single and multi user mode could make the pools
 invisible.  Import seemed to bring them back...

Yeah.  ZFS pools record the hostid of the system that accessed them last.
When you boot in single-user mode, /etc/rc.d/hostid doesn't get run,
so the hostid is zero, which doesn't match the hostid in the pool, so the
pool doesn't show up without an import.  Workaround: always make sure you
run /etc/rc.d/hostid start in single-user before doing any ZFS tinkering.


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ad8: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA errors UFS 7.0-RC1

2008-01-26 Thread Nikolaj Farrell
After upgrading from RELENG_6_2 to 7.0-RC1 I am experiencing system 
becoming unresponsive during intensive disk operations. Only solution is 
a power off. These hangs occured pretty much within a few hours of first 
running 7.0-RC1. 6.2R was fine. I am not running ZFS.


The hangs are easy to reproduce by an unrar of an archive ~4.4GB. The 
system will not hang during normal operations.


Below are the errors I get, output from dmesg, atacontrol cap and 
smartctl tests. (The long test is aborted below, but as indicated 
previously completed without errors)


These are the errors:
---
Jan 26 19:55:36 athlon kernel: ad8: WARNING - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER 
MODE taskqueue timeout - completing request directly
Jan 26 19:55:36 athlon kernel: ad8: WARNING - SETFEATURES ENABLE RCACHE 
taskqueue timeout - completing request directly
Jan 26 19:55:36 athlon kernel: ad8: WARNING - SETFEATURES ENABLE WCACHE 
taskqueue timeout - completing request directly
Jan 26 19:55:36 athlon kernel: ad8: WARNING - SET_MULTI taskqueue 
timeout - completing request directly
Jan 26 19:55:36 athlon kernel: ad8: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (1 
retry left) LBA=2415
Jan 26 19:55:36 athlon kernel: ad8: WARNING - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER 
MODE taskqueue timeout - completing request directly
Jan 26 19:55:36 athlon kernel: ad8: WARNING - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER 
MODE taskqueue timeout - completing request directly
Jan 26 19:55:36 athlon kernel: ad8: WARNING - SETFEATURES ENABLE RCACHE 
taskqueue timeout - completing request directly
Jan 26 19:55:36 athlon kernel: ad8: WARNING - SETFEATURES ENABLE WCACHE 
taskqueue timeout - completing request directly
Jan 26 19:55:36 athlon kernel: ad8: WARNING - SET_MULTI taskqueue 
timeout - completing request directly
Jan 26 19:55:36 athlon kernel: ad8: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (1 
retry left) LBA=2543

---
and so on...

This computer has only the one SATA hard drive.
dmesg info:
atapci1: VIA 8237A SATA150 controller port 
0xcc00-0xcc07,0xc880-0xc883,0xc800-0xc807,0xc480-0xc483,0xc400-0xc40f,0xc000-0xc0ff 
irq 21 at device 15.0 on pci0

atapci1: [ITHREAD]
ata4: ATA channel 0 on atapci1
ad8: 238475MB SAMSUNG SP2504C VT100-50 at ata4-master SATA150

---

atacontrol cap ad8

Protocol  Serial ATA II
device model  SAMSUNG SP2504C
serial number S09QJ1CP201268
firmware revision VT100-50
cylinders 16383
heads 16
sectors/track 63
lba supported 268435455 sectors
lba48 supported   488397168 sectors
dma supported
overlap not supported

Feature  Support  EnableValue   Vendor
write cacheyes  yes
read ahead yes  yes
Native Command Queuing (NCQ)   yes   -  31/0x1F
Tagged Command Queuing (TCQ)   no   no  31/0x1F
SMART  yes  yes
microcode download yes  yes
security   yes  no
power management   yes  yes
advanced power management  no   no  0/0x00
automatic acoustic management  yes  no  0/0x00  254/0xFE

---
smartctl -a /dev/ad8:

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: SAMSUNG SpinPoint P120 series
Device Model: SAMSUNG SP2504C
Serial Number:S09QJ1CP201268
Firmware Version: VT100-50
User Capacity:250 059 350 016 bytes
Device is:In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   7
ATA Standard is:  ATA/ATAPI-7 T13 1532D revision 4a
Local Time is:Sat Jan 26 22:44:43 2008 CET
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x02) Offline data collection activity
was completed without error.
Auto Offline Data Collection: 
Disabled.

Self-test execution status:  (  25) The self-test routine was aborted by
the host.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: (5028) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:(0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection 
on/off support.

Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:(0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error 

Re: ad8: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA errors UFS 7.0-RC1

2008-01-26 Thread Remco van Bekkum
Same here. On an amd64 system with 1x sata disk (Western Digital Caviar
Green Power) on an amd690G chipset, with UFS and intensive disk activity
the system hangs and in the end it may panic. I've csupped today and
rebuild world  generic kernel but still it's very unstable, sometimes it
even hangs when activating geom volumes at boot time... 
I must add that this is a new system so I'm not 100% sure the hardware is sane.
Using ZFS it also crashed when doing intensive I/O.

I can supply additional info later if that may help.

Cheers,

Remco

On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 10:54:17PM +0100, Nikolaj Farrell wrote:
 After upgrading from RELENG_6_2 to 7.0-RC1 I am experiencing system 
 becoming unresponsive during intensive disk operations. Only solution is 
 a power off. These hangs occured pretty much within a few hours of first 
 running 7.0-RC1. 6.2R was fine. I am not running ZFS.
 
 The hangs are easy to reproduce by an unrar of an archive ~4.4GB. The 
 system will not hang during normal operations.
 
 Below are the errors I get, output from dmesg, atacontrol cap and 
 smartctl tests. (The long test is aborted below, but as indicated 
 previously completed without errors)
 
 These are the errors:
 ---
 Jan 26 19:55:36 athlon kernel: ad8: WARNING - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER 
 MODE taskqueue timeout - completing request directly
 Jan 26 19:55:36 athlon kernel: ad8: WARNING - SETFEATURES ENABLE RCACHE 
 taskqueue timeout - completing request directly
 Jan 26 19:55:36 athlon kernel: ad8: WARNING - SETFEATURES ENABLE WCACHE 
 taskqueue timeout - completing request directly
 Jan 26 19:55:36 athlon kernel: ad8: WARNING - SET_MULTI taskqueue 
 timeout - completing request directly
 Jan 26 19:55:36 athlon kernel: ad8: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (1 
 retry left) LBA=2415
 Jan 26 19:55:36 athlon kernel: ad8: WARNING - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER 
 MODE taskqueue timeout - completing request directly
 Jan 26 19:55:36 athlon kernel: ad8: WARNING - SETFEATURES SET TRANSFER 
 MODE taskqueue timeout - completing request directly
 Jan 26 19:55:36 athlon kernel: ad8: WARNING - SETFEATURES ENABLE RCACHE 
 taskqueue timeout - completing request directly
 Jan 26 19:55:36 athlon kernel: ad8: WARNING - SETFEATURES ENABLE WCACHE 
 taskqueue timeout - completing request directly
 Jan 26 19:55:36 athlon kernel: ad8: WARNING - SET_MULTI taskqueue 
 timeout - completing request directly
 Jan 26 19:55:36 athlon kernel: ad8: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (1 
 retry left) LBA=2543
 ---
 and so on...
 
 This computer has only the one SATA hard drive.
 dmesg info:
 atapci1: VIA 8237A SATA150 controller port 
 0xcc00-0xcc07,0xc880-0xc883,0xc800-0xc807,0xc480-0xc483,0xc400-0xc40f,0xc000-0xc0ff
  
 irq 21 at device 15.0 on pci0
 atapci1: [ITHREAD]
 ata4: ATA channel 0 on atapci1
 ad8: 238475MB SAMSUNG SP2504C VT100-50 at ata4-master SATA150
 
 ---
 
 atacontrol cap ad8
 
 Protocol  Serial ATA II
 device model  SAMSUNG SP2504C
 serial number S09QJ1CP201268
 firmware revision VT100-50
 cylinders 16383
 heads 16
 sectors/track 63
 lba supported 268435455 sectors
 lba48 supported   488397168 sectors
 dma supported
 overlap not supported
 
 Feature  Support  EnableValue   Vendor
 write cacheyes  yes
 read ahead yes  yes
 Native Command Queuing (NCQ)   yes   -  31/0x1F
 Tagged Command Queuing (TCQ)   no   no  31/0x1F
 SMART  yes  yes
 microcode download yes  yes
 security   yes  no
 power management   yes  yes
 advanced power management  no   no  0/0x00
 automatic acoustic management  yes  no  0/0x00  254/0xFE
 
 ---
 smartctl -a /dev/ad8:
 
 === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
 Model Family: SAMSUNG SpinPoint P120 series
 Device Model: SAMSUNG SP2504C
 Serial Number:S09QJ1CP201268
 Firmware Version: VT100-50
 User Capacity:250 059 350 016 bytes
 Device is:In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
 ATA Version is:   7
 ATA Standard is:  ATA/ATAPI-7 T13 1532D revision 4a
 Local Time is:Sat Jan 26 22:44:43 2008 CET
 SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
 SMART support is: Enabled
 
 === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
 SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
 
 General SMART Values:
 Offline data collection status:  (0x02) Offline data collection activity
 was completed without error.
 Auto Offline Data Collection: 
 Disabled.
 Self-test execution status:  (  25) The self-test routine was aborted by
 the host.
 Total time to complete Offline
 data collection: (5028) seconds.
 Offline data collection
 capabilities:(0x5b) SMART execute Offline 

Re: ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA type errors with 7.0-RC1

2008-01-26 Thread Joe Peterson
Ivan Voras wrote:
 Were both tests done in the same machine (actually, I mean the same PSU)?

Yes - I deliberately changed nothing (not even cables) before I ran the tests.
 I didn't want any variables.

-Joe
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Re: ad8: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA errors UFS 7.0-RC1

2008-01-26 Thread Joe Peterson
Remco van Bekkum wrote:
 Same here. On an amd64 system with 1x sata disk (Western Digital Caviar
 Green Power) on an amd690G chipset, with UFS and intensive disk activity
 the system hangs and in the end it may panic. I've csupped today and
 rebuild world  generic kernel but still it's very unstable, sometimes it
 even hangs when activating geom volumes at boot time... 
 I must add that this is a new system so I'm not 100% sure the hardware is 
 sane.
 Using ZFS it also crashed when doing intensive I/O.

This is very interesting.  It seems to there are several of us who are
experiencing something that *looks* like hardware (disk) issues when using 7.0.

Could this be related to the mouse freeze issue?  Could some process be
locking/grabbing the CPU at inopportune times and causing not only the
freezing symptoms but also reads/writes problems?

Can anyone else using 7.0 who hasn't already (especially those using ZFS)
check his/her /var/log/messages for disk TIMEOUTs or other disk error
messages?  If this is widespread, I think the chances re slim that it is a
hardware problem in every case.

-Joe
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Re: ad8: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA errors UFS 7.0-RC1

2008-01-26 Thread Josh Carroll
 Can anyone else using 7.0 who hasn't already (especially those using ZFS)
 check his/her /var/log/messages for disk TIMEOUTs or other disk error
 messages?  If this is widespread, I think the chances re slim that it is a
 hardware problem in every case.

I noticed this week that I was getting DMA WRITE timeouts on two of my
disks on my 7.0-RC1 box. The strange thing in my case was that only 2
of my 3 drives were exhibiting the behavior. The two having the
problem were both SATA300 drives, while the third was SATA150. I
jumpered the two bad drives to SATA150, and the timeouts went away.
I replaced the motherboard, set the two drives back to SATA300 and
have not had a timeout since. I was thinking maybe it was related, but
in my case it was truly a hardware failure.

Here were the messages, for what it's worth:

Jan 23 10:05:01 pflog kernel: ad10: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (1
retry left) LBA=1525567
Jan 23 10:05:09 pflog kernel: ad10: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (1
retry left) LBA=3828159
Jan 23 10:07:27 pflog kernel: ad10: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (1
retry left) LBA=3450111
Jan 23 10:07:33 pflog kernel: ad10: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (1
retry left) LBA=4561983
Jan 23 11:30:27 pflog kernel: ad10: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (1
retry left) LBA=4178303
Jan 23 11:30:33 pflog kernel: ad10: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (1
retry left) LBA=5660287
Jan 23 11:30:39 pflog kernel: ad10: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (1
retry left) LBA=6805951
Jan 23 11:30:48 pflog kernel: ad10: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (1
retry left) LBA=9856959

Josh
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Unionfs on RELENG_6

2008-01-26 Thread Vlad GALU
Now that the 6.3 release notes advertise its reimplementation,
isn't it safe to remove the warning at the end of the mount_unionfs(8)
?

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./iicbus_if.h: In function `IICBUS_TRANSFER':

2008-01-26 Thread tethys ocean
 Hi

While I was being update another server which is 6.2 stable. make

./iicbus_if.h:124: warning: struct iic_msg declared inside parameter list
./iicbus_if.h:124: warning: its scope is only this definition or
declaration, which is probably not what you want
./iicbus_if.h:127: warning: struct iic_msg declared inside parameter list
./iicbus_if.h: In function `IICBUS_TRANSFER':
./iicbus_if.h:131: warning: passing arg 2 of pointer to function from
incompatible pointer type
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/i2c/if_ic.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/i2c.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules.
*** Error code 1
:


What is this?  What should I do,



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Re: ad0: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA type errors with 7.0-RC1

2008-01-26 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 01:15:31PM -0700, Joe Peterson wrote:
 Joe Peterson wrote:
  So I have started a SeaTools (disk scanner from Seagate) long test of 
  the
  drive.  The short test passed already.  The results should be interesting.  
  If
  it finds nothing wrong, I am going to start to wonder if I am experiencing 
  ZFS
  bugs that just happen to look like drive problems.  I already did a long 
  read,
  under linux, of disk contents, and got no messages about anything wrong.
 
 Update: both SHORT and LONG tests passed for this drive in SeaTools.
 Hmph...  the mystery remains.

As do mine -- I also completed both short and long tests in SeaTools on
my drive (finished early this evening).  Absolutely no errors,
everything passed.

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Re: ad8: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA errors UFS 7.0-RC1

2008-01-26 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 04:28:29PM -0700, Joe Peterson wrote:
 Remco van Bekkum wrote:
  Same here. On an amd64 system with 1x sata disk (Western Digital Caviar
  Green Power) on an amd690G chipset, with UFS and intensive disk activity
  the system hangs and in the end it may panic. I've csupped today and
  rebuild world  generic kernel but still it's very unstable, sometimes it
  even hangs when activating geom volumes at boot time... 
  I must add that this is a new system so I'm not 100% sure the hardware is 
  sane.
  Using ZFS it also crashed when doing intensive I/O.
 
 This is very interesting.  It seems to there are several of us who are
 experiencing something that *looks* like hardware (disk) issues when using 
 7.0.

We need Soren Schmidt and/or Xin Li to help with this situation.  I
really don't know what we can provide (other than hardware, which I am
more than happy to donate).  In my case, I was able to let the machine
remain broken for 15 minutes or so, and it eventually panic'd.  Of
course due to PR 118255, it's becoming difficult to get a coredump.

 Could this be related to the mouse freeze issue?  Could some process be
 locking/grabbing the CPU at inopportune times and causing not only the
 freezing symptoms but also reads/writes problems?

I don't use a mouse on my systems, but what you've described is
possible.  I'm guessing some sort of loop in the kernel (or a driver)
which holds the system down for too long.

 If this is widespread, I think the chances re slim that it is a
 hardware problem in every case.

I'm in definite agreement here.  I think it might be worthwhile to note
what hardware we're all using, in case there's something similar between
our systems (chipset, disk vendor, etc.).

My system is as follows; timeouts were reported during an rsync of data
from the ZFS stripe (ad8+ad10) to a UFS2 filesystem on ad6.  System
eventually panic'd after remaining deadlocked (while kernel messages
about timeouts kept printing on the console for ad6 only) for 10-15
minutes.

*   MB: Supermicro PDSMI+  (Intel ICH7-based)
*  CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
*  RAM: Corsair CM2X1024-6400 DDR2, 2GB
*  ad4: WD Caviar SE WD2000JD (boot/OS)
*  ad6: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3500630AS
*  ad8: WD Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS (ZFS stripe)
* ad10: WD Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS (ZFS stripe)
* All drives are hooked up to the ICH7.
* SMART stats showed no problems on any of the drives before or after.
* RELENG_7, i386, ULE scheduler.

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Re: ad8: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA errors UFS 7.0-RC1

2008-01-26 Thread Joe Peterson
Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 If this is widespread, I think the chances re slim that it is a
 hardware problem in every case.
 
 I'm in definite agreement here.  I think it might be worthwhile to note
 what hardware we're all using, in case there's something similar between
 our systems (chipset, disk vendor, etc.).
 
 My system is as follows; timeouts were reported during an rsync of data
 from the ZFS stripe (ad8+ad10) to a UFS2 filesystem on ad6.  System
 eventually panic'd after remaining deadlocked (while kernel messages
 about timeouts kept printing on the console for ad6 only) for 10-15
 minutes.

 *   MB: Supermicro PDSMI+  (Intel ICH7-based)
 *  CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
 *  RAM: Corsair CM2X1024-6400 DDR2, 2GB
 *  ad4: WD Caviar SE WD2000JD (boot/OS)
 *  ad6: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3500630AS
 *  ad8: WD Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS (ZFS stripe)
 * ad10: WD Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS (ZFS stripe)
 * All drives are hooked up to the ICH7.
 * SMART stats showed no problems on any of the drives before or after.
 * RELENG_7, i386, ULE scheduler.

Mine is as follows:

*   MB: Tyan Trinity S2099
*  CPU: Pentium 4, 2.4GHz
*  RAM: Crucial DDR, ECC, CL2.5, Unbuffered 2GB (1/2 PC2100, 1/2 PC2700)
*  ad0: Seagate ST3500630A 3.AAE (1 UFS2 boot, 1 ZFS pool)
*  ad1: Seagate ST3160812A 3.AAH (not used by FreeBSD)
* Intel ICH4 UDMA100 controller
* ATI Radeon RV280 9250
* Intel PRO/1000 NIC
* 7.0-RC1, i386, ULE scheduler

-Joe
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