Re: Something since June 8th clobbers my disk...
On Friday 12 June 2009 08:24:42 pm Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 08:45:01PM -0600, Dan Allen wrote: On 12 Jun 2009, at 6:32 AM, John Baldwin wrote: On Thursday 11 June 2009 9:33:24 pm Dan Allen wrote: Whew!! i'm giving thanks to every saint, god and daemon known. i rebuilt my kernel in very recent days (7.2) on my ancient 500MHz kayak, but did not go further. So still runing on the 7.0 kernel. Will someone send up a flare when it's *safe*? gary Gary, it isn't affecting everyone. FreeBSD ruby.owt.com 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #4: Wed Jun 10 14:07:14 PDT 2009 r...@ruby.owt.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEBSD2 i386 FreeBSD kstewart2.owt.com 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #6: Wed Jun 10 15:03:03 PDT 2009 r...@kstewart2.owt.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEBSD1 i386 Ruby is an Intel core duo and the other has dual Xeon's. They were all installed the canonical way. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Something since June 8th clobbers my disk...
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:24:07PM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: On Friday 12 June 2009 08:24:42 pm Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 08:45:01PM -0600, Dan Allen wrote: On 12 Jun 2009, at 6:32 AM, John Baldwin wrote: On Thursday 11 June 2009 9:33:24 pm Dan Allen wrote: Whew!! i'm giving thanks to every saint, god and daemon known. i rebuilt my kernel in very recent days (7.2) on my ancient 500MHz kayak, but did not go further. So still runing on the 7.0 kernel. Will someone send up a flare when it's *safe*? gary Gary, it isn't affecting everyone. FreeBSD ruby.owt.com 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #4: Wed Jun 10 14:07:14 PDT 2009 r...@ruby.owt.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEBSD2 i386 FreeBSD kstewart2.owt.com 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #6: Wed Jun 10 15:03:03 PDT 2009 r...@kstewart2.owt.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEBSD1 i386 Ruby is an Intel core duo and the other has dual Xeon's. They were all installed the canonical way. Thanks for the insight, Kent. I'll go ahead and install 7.2 on the P3, then. Should be done this weekend. gary Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org For FBSD list: http://transfinite.thought.org/slicejourney.php The 4.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Something since June 8th clobbers my disk...
On Saturday 13 June 2009 12:08:17 am Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:24:07PM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: On Friday 12 June 2009 08:24:42 pm Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 08:45:01PM -0600, Dan Allen wrote: On 12 Jun 2009, at 6:32 AM, John Baldwin wrote: On Thursday 11 June 2009 9:33:24 pm Dan Allen wrote: Whew!! i'm giving thanks to every saint, god and daemon known. i rebuilt my kernel in very recent days (7.2) on my ancient 500MHz kayak, but did not go further. So still runing on the 7.0 kernel. Will someone send up a flare when it's *safe*? gary Gary, it isn't affecting everyone. FreeBSD ruby.owt.com 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #4: Wed Jun 10 14:07:14 PDT 2009 r...@ruby.owt.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEBSD2 i386 FreeBSD kstewart2.owt.com 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #6: Wed Jun 10 15:03:03 PDT 2009 r...@kstewart2.owt.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEBSD1 i386 Ruby is an Intel core duo and the other has dual Xeon's. They were all installed the canonical way. Thanks for the insight, Kent. I'll go ahead and install 7.2 on the P3, then. Should be done this weekend. Coming from the diagnostic side in the days of our Cray, I believe that one broken machine means more than 100 without problems. There just seems to be more to this than is normal. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
I/O Serial Tunnel over Ethernet - Cellular - WiFi
This is a message in multipart MIME format. Your mail client should not be displaying this. Consider upgrading your mail client to view this message correctly. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
reecommendations for an 'appliance platform ?
I am looking to deploy a couple of hundered system, which are supposed to attach to a network and be plug-in-and-go. I am thinking of doing this with a FreeBSD installation, duplicated onto flash cards, and dumped into some off-the-sheelt hardware. The questions I, what hardware ? I've done some research, and come up with boxes like this: http://www.icp-epia.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProdproductId=434 But I was wondering if anyone knew of any alternatives, preferably featuring a processor which can run amd64. The rest of thats pec is fine, and I dont need wifi. Any suggestions, or words of wisdom from anyone who has done someething similar themselevs in the past ? cheers, -pete. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Something since June 8th clobbers my disk...
On 12 Jun 2009, at 9:50 PM, Yuri Pankov wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 08:24:42PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: Whew!! i'm giving thanks to every saint, god and daemon known. i rebuilt my kernel in very recent days (7.2) on my ancient 500MHz kayak, but did not go further. So still runing on the 7.0 kernel. Will someone send up a flare when it's *safe*? How do you know it isn't safe? Noone hasn't provided any useful info (debug, revisions where it works and where it doesn't). Well, I do not think it is safe at all either. I must have some strange configuration that others do not have or there would be plenty of people with their drives getting wiped out. I tried removing the zfsboot and gptzfsboot items from /usr/src/sys/ boot/i386/Makefile and then rebuild the boot area but it once again killed things. My hunch is that the boot loader is getting stuck on something strange about my system. Here is my drive config, and perhaps this will cause a light bulb to go on for someone: Toshiba U205, Intel 1.83GHz Core Duo, 1GB RAM, 1 120GB hard drive with two partitions. The first partition is 92161 MB for Windows XP Pro. I rarely use it. The second partition is 22309 MB for FreeBSD. It has 3 slices: The first slice /dev/ad0s2a is the main 22 GB file system. It has the / root mount point and has soft updates turned on. The second slice /dev/ad0s2b is a 1GB SWAP partition. The third slice /dev/ad0s2c is unused. I will continue to test. I am TRYING to narrow it down, it just takes forever. Dan ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Something since June 8th clobbers my disk...
On 11 Jun 2009, at 5:41 PM, Paul B. Mahol wrote: Looks like boot(8) is problematic. Okay, here is the June 13th noon update to this problem. I once again installed a May 28th build. Rebuilt world and kernel from source. Everything works great. No custom kernel, just GENERIC. I then merged in just /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/libi386 changes to June 10th. Rebuilt in /usr/src/sys/boot and installed it, no problem. Then I merged in the latest from /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader, rebuilt, installed, and BOOM. DEATH TO DRIVE. Disk label GONE again. Hangs after BIOS drive C: is disk1 at boot. Does not get to memory check, let alone to the Welcome to FreeBSD and choose a boot option screen. CULPRIT REVEALED: So, there is only one file change in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader from June 8th to June 10th, which kills my machine very repeatably, and that is the Makefile. Something in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/Makefile is killing my drive. What do I try next? Thanks for the help. Dan ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Something since June 8th clobbers my disk...
On 6/13/09, Dan Allen danalle...@airwired.net wrote: On 12 Jun 2009, at 6:32 AM, John Baldwin wrote: On Thursday 11 June 2009 9:33:24 pm Dan Allen wrote: Isn't boot part of the kernel build? Why would installing the kernel not cause this problem? No, sys/boot is built during world. Likely some change in /boot/ loader is causing your problem. Can you narrow it down to a specific change under sys/boot? Ok. I updated just the one file since it appeared like one of the few changed files /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/libi386/biosdisk.c and rebuilt things with cd /usr/src/sys/boot; make cleandir obj depend all install and it was okay. No problems. Then I did sync'd all of the changed files for /usr/src/sys/boot and my machine is hung again at boot, so we have narrowed it down to somewhere in /usr/src/sys/boot/. Time to reinstall from a DVD and try it with finer granularity. This will take some time. There appears to be only four files that have changed in /usr/src/sys/ boot from June 8th (all working fine) to June 11th (dead in the water). They are: /usr/src/sys/boot/Makefile /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/Makefile /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/libi386/biosdisk.c I doubt it is loader fault, from your description it appears that loader is never started. Could you try to remove -DLOADER_ZFS_SUPPORT from Makefile? /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/Makefile I have ruled out bisodisk.c, as stated above. That means that the Makefiles are building new stuff that previously was not built, namely zfsboot gptzfsboot I believe it has to do with that. More help is needed! I am tired of reinstalling the OS, but I am much more paranoid about updating my other machine in any way now, as it could erase that whole machine. I can't believe I am the only one seeing this... Dan -- Paul ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: reecommendations for an 'appliance platform ?
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 05:45:49PM +0100, Pete French wrote: I am looking to deploy a couple of hundered system, which are supposed to attach to a network and be plug-in-and-go. I am thinking of doing this with a FreeBSD installation, duplicated onto flash cards, and dumped into some off-the-sheelt hardware. The questions I, what hardware ? I've done some research, and come up with boxes like this: http://www.icp-epia.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProdproductId=434 But I was wondering if anyone knew of any alternatives, preferably featuring a processor which can run amd64. The rest of thats pec is fine, and I dont need wifi. I'm not 100% sure, but fairly sure that you'll have a hard time finding something that combines the low-power standalone type spec with a 64-bit capable processor. Once you get the higher-end processor, that draws higher power, and so demands active cooling, a motherboard chipset which also draws higher power, a bigger power supply which becomes a more likely failure point, and so on. Can you elaborate a bit more on which parts of that system spec you really need - do you need the GigE? Two ethernets? The external SATA? Any suggestions, or words of wisdom from anyone who has done someething similar themselevs in the past ? Not specifically this, though I've done other embedded work in the past. Several years ago I did research some appliance type setups for a possible spam-filtering appliance based on the VIA Nehemiah CPU; I won't bother you with that info because nowadays the Atom or AMD Geode seem to win in that niche. Besides the frequently mentioned Soekris http://www.soekris.com/ these guys seem to make some pretty nice low-power systems: http://www.compulab.co.il/all-products/html/products.htm I bought one of these from them last year: http://www.fit-pc.com/new/fit-pc-1-0-specifications.html due to the two Ethernet ports and low power consumption, and put the pfSense package on it (FreeBSD 7.1-based) for a firewall; it runs a packet filtering bridge with DHCP service, Squid, etc. This particular model is out of production now, but the site implies they could do a new run of them for 100 or more units, and there's a newer upgraded model here: http://www.fit-pc.com/new/fit-pc-1-0-specifications.html Note these are both passively cooled and draw around 5w; I think they also come in at about half the price of what you were looking at, if they'll do. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- clift...@iandicomputing.com / clift...@lava.net President - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/ Custom programming, network design, systems and network consulting services ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: reecommendations for an 'appliance platform ?
Sorry for the self-followup; correcting an incorrect URL. On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 09:54:52AM -1000, Clifton Royston wrote: ... due to the two Ethernet ports and low power consumption, and put the pfSense package on it (FreeBSD 7.1-based) for a firewall; it runs a packet filtering bridge with DHCP service, Squid, etc. This particular model is out of production now, but the site implies they could do a new run of them for 100 or more units, and there's a newer upgraded model here: http://www.fit-pc.com/new/fit-pc-1-0-specifications.html Should have gone here: http://www.fit-pc.com/new/whats-new.html No business relationship with them, just had a good experience with the (earlier) hardware. -- Clifton -- Clifton Royston -- clift...@iandicomputing.com / clift...@lava.net President - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/ Custom programming, network design, systems and network consulting services ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: reecommendations for an 'appliance platform ?
I'm not 100% sure, but fairly sure that you'll have a hard time finding something that combines the low-power standalone type spec with a 64-bit capable processor. Once you get the higher-end processor, That was my experiense when shopping around yes - annoying as I don't need anything particularly low power (it ain't going to be my leccy bill :-). becomes a more likely failure point, and so on. Can you elaborate a bit more on which parts of that system spec you really need - do you need the GigE? Two ethernets? The external SATA? It needs to be: 1) Complete as purchased - I dont want to build a machine 2) Capable of having a simple boot device (e.g. CF card) dropped in 3) At least one ether port. 100 meg will do. 4) Small enough to be posted to the end user 5) Cheap - under 400 euros, preferably 300 I do not really care about processor speed, or memory, or power consumption. It needs to run FreeBSD, and I would prefer amd64 as we havent written or used any of our code on 32 bit in a long time, and I would feel uneasy that there might be laten bugs in it if we simply recompiled it for 32 bit. I bought one of these from them last year: http://www.fit-pc.com/new/fit-pc-1-0-specifications.html Thanks for the links - thats pretty interesting! I notice the newer ones are also Atom based, so similarly spec'd to what I was looking at, but they may be more suitable. cheers, -pete. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Something since June 8th clobbers my disk...
On 13 Jun 2009, at 12:50 PM, Paul B. Mahol wrote: I doubt it is loader fault, from your description it appears that loader is never started. Could you try to remove -DLOADER_ZFS_SUPPORT from Makefile? /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/Makefile BINGO! LOADER_ZFS_SUPPORT is the culprit. I rebuilt the good world, and brought in the loader changes which have caused previously caused death to my drive, then deleted the ZFS_SUPPORT path in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/Makefile as you recommended, and rebuilt things and everything works fine. Now what do we do? Dan ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Let's back out LOADER_ZFS_SUPPORT from STABLE
I have now proven that the recent post June 8th version of /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/Makefile causes catastrophic data loss. Why on earth would this change not be immediately rolled back out of the STABLE branch? For those on the bleeding edge with CURRENT they expect to lose their entire drives, but not STABLE users. We need to remove -DLOADER_ZFS_SUPPORT from /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/ loader/Makefile immediately. Dan ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: reecommendations for an 'appliance platform ?
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 09:13:34PM +0100, Pete French wrote: I'm not 100% sure, but fairly sure that you'll have a hard time finding something that combines the low-power standalone type spec with a 64-bit capable processor. Once you get the higher-end processor, That was my experiense when shopping around yes - annoying as I don't need anything particularly low power (it ain't going to be my leccy bill :-). becomes a more likely failure point, and so on. Can you elaborate a bit more on which parts of that system spec you really need - do you need the GigE? Two ethernets? The external SATA? It needs to be: 1) Complete as purchased - I dont want to build a machine 2) Capable of having a simple boot device (e.g. CF card) dropped in 3) At least one ether port. 100 meg will do. 4) Small enough to be posted to the end user 5) Cheap - under 400 euros, preferably 300 the Asus EEEBox might fit the description. cheers luigi ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Let's back out LOADER_ZFS_SUPPORT from STABLE
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Dan Allendanalle...@airwired.net wrote: I have now proven that the recent post June 8th version of /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/Makefile causes catastrophic data loss. Then it should be disabled by default until the problem is fixed. Why on earth would this change not be immediately rolled back out of the STABLE branch? For those on the bleeding edge with CURRENT they expect to lose their entire drives, but not STABLE users. Your word choice indicates that someone has asserted otherwise, when in fact I see no indication that this is the case. -Kip ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: reecommendations for an 'appliance platform ?
Hi, Pete French wrote: I'm not 100% sure, but fairly sure that you'll have a hard time finding something that combines the low-power standalone type spec with a 64-bit capable processor. Once you get the higher-end processor, That was my experiense when shopping around yes - annoying as I don't need anything particularly low power (it ain't going to be my leccy bill :-). The Atom 230 and 330 are supposed to be 64-bit capable: http://ark.intel.com/Compare.aspx?ids=36331,35635,35641, but I have not personally tested either with an AMD64 FreeBSD install. It needs to be: 1) Complete as purchased - I dont want to build a machine 2) Capable of having a simple boot device (e.g. CF card) dropped in 3) At least one ether port. 100 meg will do. 4) Small enough to be posted to the end user 5) Cheap - under 400 euros, preferably 300 You might consider something like this: http://www.tranquilpc-shop.co.uk/acatalog/T7-330_Barebones.html Or this which is rack mountable: http://www.tranquilpc-shop.co.uk/acatalog/T2e_300atom_nocd.html Both Atom 330 based and prebuilt. No affiliation with them, but I almost ordered one and found their support to be responsive and helpful. :) Regards, Aragon ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Something since June 8th clobbers my disk...
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 12:41:55PM -0600, Dan Allen wrote: On 11 Jun 2009, at 5:41 PM, Paul B. Mahol wrote: Looks like boot(8) is problematic. Okay, here is the June 13th noon update to this problem. I once again installed a May 28th build. Rebuilt world and kernel from source. Everything works great. No custom kernel, just GENERIC. I then merged in just /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/libi386 changes to June 10th. Rebuilt in /usr/src/sys/boot and installed it, no problem. Then I merged in the latest from /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader, rebuilt, installed, and BOOM. DEATH TO DRIVE. Disk label GONE again. Hangs after BIOS drive C: is disk1 at boot. Does not get to memory check, let alone to the Welcome to FreeBSD and choose a boot option screen. CULPRIT REVEALED: So, there is only one file change in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader from June 8th to June 10th, which kills my machine very repeatably, and that is the Makefile. Something in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/Makefile is killing my drive. What do I try next? Thanks for the help. Dan I just checked the timestamped on my i386/loader/Makefile. The CVS/RCS v that may show you something is from 07jun09: 1.85.2.4 and if you find what changed between your working build on 28may and failing build, that might isolate it. just my dime's worth :-) gary ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org For FBSD list: http://transfinite.thought.org/slicejourney.php The 4.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: reecommendations for an 'appliance platform ?
http://www.tranquilpc-shop.co.uk/acatalog/T7-330_Barebones.html Now *that* is very much what I am thinking of - OK, I will need to drop in a CF-SATA along with the card, but thats not much hassle. 64 bit and I can add in more RAM than on the other. Thanks, I hadn't realised the new ATonms did 64 bit. -pete. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: reecommendations for an 'appliance platform ?
Pete French wrote: http://www.tranquilpc-shop.co.uk/acatalog/T7-330_Barebones.html Now *that* is very much what I am thinking of - OK, I will need to drop in a CF-SATA along with the card, but thats not much hassle. 64 bit and I can add in more RAM than on the other. Thanks, I hadn't realised the new ATonms did 64 bit. No, I don't think you will need a CF-SATA adapter. A simple CF-ATA adapter should do. Those systems just have an Intel GCLF2 board in them, which has both SATA and ATA: http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/D945GCLF2-D945GCLF2D/D945GCLF2-D945GCLF2D-overview.htm Best you mail them to confirm though... They're also fanless. :) Regards, Aragon ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Let's back out LOADER_ZFS_SUPPORT from STABLE
On 6/13/09, Dan Allen danalle...@airwired.net wrote: I have now proven that the recent post June 8th version of /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/Makefile causes catastrophic data loss. Why on earth would this change not be immediately rolled back out of the STABLE branch? For those on the bleeding edge with CURRENT they expect to lose their entire drives, but not STABLE users. I hardly doubt that such change cause loss of data on entire drive. There is always old loader to pick up. We need to remove -DLOADER_ZFS_SUPPORT from /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/ loader/Makefile immediately. I don't understand why LOADER_ZFS_SUPPORT is not defined by default on CURRENT. -- Paul ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Let's back out LOADER_ZFS_SUPPORT from STABLE
On 13 Jun 2009, at 5:42 PM, Paul B. Mahol wrote: On 6/13/09, Dan Allen danalle...@airwired.net wrote: I have now proven that the recent post June 8th version of /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/Makefile causes catastrophic data loss. I hardly doubt that such change cause loss of data on entire drive. There is always old loader to pick up. How do I get to the old loader when the machine boots and immediately stops? There is no ability at this point in the boot process to try and get to the old loader that I know of. Is there a hidden magic key combination that allows this? You are correct that the bulk of the file system is not touched, but the key file partitioning headers get cleared and when you boot off of a DVD -- the only way to get to the system that I know of -- and inspect the file partitioning via whatever means you try, it shows that the root partition is gone. What was your main file system is gone. I learned after many installs that I could NOT do a newfs(8) and the setup program would re-mark things and and files ended up re- appearing. My machine was well backed up so no great loss of data in the end, but it has cost me lots of time to get this figured out. For me the real questions are these: * Why is my system the only one that this happens on? * What makes my machine setup different? * What is the bug in the bootable ZFS loader that munges the partition map? Dan ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: reecommendations for an 'appliance platform ?
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009, Aragon Gouveia wrote: Hi, Pete French wrote: I'm not 100% sure, but fairly sure that you'll have a hard time finding something that combines the low-power standalone type spec with a 64-bit capable processor. Once you get the higher-end processor, That was my experiense when shopping around yes - annoying as I don't need anything particularly low power (it ain't going to be my leccy bill :-). The Atom 230 and 330 are supposed to be 64-bit capable: http://ark.intel.com/Compare.aspx?ids=36331,35635,35641, but I have not personally tested either with an AMD64 FreeBSD install. I have a Supermicro 5015A-H on the way, which is a 1U rackmount Atom 330 box, and am planning to run 7.2-STABLE amd64 on it. We'll see how it goes. No flash card slots, so you'd need adapters -- I was just going to use a pair of leftover 2.5 disks I had on the shelf. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: reecommendations for an 'appliance platform ?
I'm not 100% sure, but fairly sure that you'll have a hard time finding something that combines the low-power standalone type spec with a 64-bit capable processor. Once you get the higher-end processor, That was my experiense when shopping around yes - annoying as I don't need anything particularly low power (it ain't going to be my leccy bill :-). becomes a more likely failure point, and so on. Can you elaborate a bit more on which parts of that system spec you really need - do you need the GigE? Two ethernets? The external SATA? It needs to be: 1) Complete as purchased - I dont want to build a machine 2) Capable of having a simple boot device (e.g. CF card) dropped in 3) At least one ether port. 100 meg will do. 4) Small enough to be posted to the end user 5) Cheap - under 400 euros, preferably 300 I do not really care about processor speed, or memory, or power consumption. It needs to run FreeBSD, and I would prefer amd64 as we havent written or used any of our code on 32 bit in a long time, and I would feel uneasy that there might be laten bugs in it if we simply recompiled it for 32 bit. I bought one of these from them last year: http://www.fit-pc.com/new/fit-pc-1-0-specifications.html Thanks for the links - thats pretty interesting! I notice the newer ones are also Atom based, so similarly spec'd to what I was looking at, but they may be more suitable. cheers, -pete. I've had very good experience with: http://www.pcengines.ch/ danny danny ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
