Re: Blocked process

2009-08-20 Thread Bob Bishop

Hi,

On 20 Aug 2009, at 03:34, Daniel O'Connor wrote:


[...]
The problem appears to now be that the userland process that reads  
data

out of the kernel is being stalled for over 4 seconds. This process
reads from the kernel and does some minor processing and then writes  
it

out to a child process to do some more work on it.

[...]
Given that renice'ing has an effect it seems to be a scheduler  
problem, [etc]


Which scheduler are you using? Have you tried the other one?

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Re: Blocked process

2009-08-20 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Bob Bishop wrote:
 Hi,

 On 20 Aug 2009, at 03:34, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
  [...]
  The problem appears to now be that the userland process that reads
  data
  out of the kernel is being stalled for over 4 seconds. This process
  reads from the kernel and does some minor processing and then
  writes it
  out to a child process to do some more work on it.
 
  [...]
  Given that renice'ing has an effect it seems to be a scheduler
  problem, [etc]

 Which scheduler are you using? Have you tried the other one?

This is running in 6.2 ish using 4BSD, I was under the impression ULE 
wasn't very stable in 6.2.

I could probably try it though...

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Re: Blocked process

2009-08-20 Thread Bob Bishop

On 20 Aug 2009, at 08:25, Daniel O'Connor wrote:


This is running in 6.2 ish using 4BSD, I was under the impression ULE
wasn't very stable in 6.2.

I could probably try it though...



Hmm. ISTR having similar problems around the 6.1-2 era. You might try  
6.4 if that's possible for you.


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Re: Blocked process

2009-08-20 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Bob Bishop wrote:
 On 20 Aug 2009, at 08:25, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
  This is running in 6.2 ish using 4BSD, I was under the impression
  ULE wasn't very stable in 6.2.
 
  I could probably try it though...

 Hmm. ISTR having similar problems around the 6.1-2 era. You might try
 6.4 if that's possible for you.

Someone is going to visit it, but if I can't solve it remotely I'll 
probably just update it to 7.2 or so.

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nscd in 6.x?

2009-08-20 Thread Jordi Espasa Clofent

Hi all,

I want to implement nscd in a lot of servers which has diferents 
releseases of 6.x and 7.x branches.

No problem with 7.x branches: nscd seems part of the system now:

# whereis nscd  uname -r
nscd: /usr/sbin/nscd /usr/share/man/man8/nscd.8.gz /usr/src/usr.sbin/nscd
7.0-RELEASE-p4

But not appears in 6.2:

# whereis nscd  uname -r
nscd:
6.2-RELEASE-p11

or 6.3

# whereis nscd  uname -r
nscd:
6.3-RELEASE-p3

Moreover I've updated the src of one 6.3 to see if this it was included 
in 6.4 sources but also it's not there:

# grep nscd /usr/src/sbin/

¿Can I use nscd in 6.x branch? ¿Is there some 'alternative'? I've read 
about cached but I don't find anywhere in 6.3 (for example); the only 
one reference I've found is the port /usr/ports/databases/memcached, but 
I think it's not nscd-related at all.


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Re: Blocked process

2009-08-20 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
 On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Bob Bishop wrote:
  On 20 Aug 2009, at 08:25, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
   This is running in 6.2 ish using 4BSD, I was under the impression
   ULE wasn't very stable in 6.2.
  
   I could probably try it though...
 
  Hmm. ISTR having similar problems around the 6.1-2 era. You might
  try 6.4 if that's possible for you.

 Someone is going to visit it, but if I can't solve it remotely I'll
 probably just update it to 7.2 or so.

What sort of problems did you have BTW?

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Re: Blocked process

2009-08-20 Thread Bob Bishop


On 20 Aug 2009, at 12:06, Daniel O'Connor wrote:


On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Daniel O'Connor wrote:

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Bob Bishop wrote:

On 20 Aug 2009, at 08:25, Daniel O'Connor wrote:

This is running in 6.2 ish using 4BSD, I was under the impression
ULE wasn't very stable in 6.2.

I could probably try it though...


Hmm. ISTR having similar problems around the 6.1-2 era. You might
try 6.4 if that's possible for you.


Someone is going to visit it, but if I can't solve it remotely I'll
probably just update it to 7.2 or so.


What sort of problems did you have BTW?


Things like ls on the console might take several seconds to respond  
when the box didn't seem to be very busy (but wasn't idle, maybe  
serving a little NFS). It wasn't the shell getting swapped out or  
anything else obvious. This was on SMP, not using X. The problem went  
away with 6.4R (had to stay with 6.x for unrelated reasons).


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Re: Blocked process

2009-08-20 Thread Kostik Belousov
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:35:46PM +0100, Bob Bishop wrote:
 
 On 20 Aug 2009, at 12:06, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
 
 On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
 On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Bob Bishop wrote:
 On 20 Aug 2009, at 08:25, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
 This is running in 6.2 ish using 4BSD, I was under the impression
 ULE wasn't very stable in 6.2.
 
 I could probably try it though...
 
 Hmm. ISTR having similar problems around the 6.1-2 era. You might
 try 6.4 if that's possible for you.
 
 Someone is going to visit it, but if I can't solve it remotely I'll
 probably just update it to 7.2 or so.
 
 What sort of problems did you have BTW?
 
 Things like ls on the console might take several seconds to respond  
 when the box didn't seem to be very busy (but wasn't idle, maybe  
 serving a little NFS). It wasn't the shell getting swapped out or  
 anything else obvious. This was on SMP, not using X. The problem went  
 away with 6.4R (had to stay with 6.x for unrelated reasons).

6.1 was released with a bug in NFS server, causing serious slowdown
when non-MPSAFE fs was exported.


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Re: nscd in 6.x?

2009-08-20 Thread Gavin Atkinson
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 12:11 +0200, Jordi Espasa Clofent wrote:
 # whereis nscd  uname -r
 nscd:
 6.3-RELEASE-p3
 
 Moreover I've updated the src of one 6.3 to see if this it was included 
 in 6.4 sources but also it's not there:
 # grep nscd /usr/src/sbin/
 
 ¿Can I use nscd in 6.x branch? ¿Is there some 'alternative'? I've read 
 about cached but I don't find anywhere in 6.3 (for example); the only 
 one reference I've found is the port /usr/ports/databases/memcached, but 
 I think it's not nscd-related at all.

cached was the original name for the nscd implementation in 7.x, it
was renamed before 7.0 was released.  You may be able to backport it
from 7.x to 6.x, I have no idea how easy this would be though.

Gavin
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Re: Blocked process

2009-08-20 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Kostik Belousov wrote:
  Things like ls on the console might take several seconds to respond
  when the box didn't seem to be very busy (but wasn't idle, maybe
  serving a little NFS). It wasn't the shell getting swapped out or
  anything else obvious. This was on SMP, not using X. The problem
  went away with 6.4R (had to stay with 6.x for unrelated reasons).

 6.1 was released with a bug in NFS server, causing serious slowdown
 when non-MPSAFE fs was exported.

Hmmm.. this is 6.2 (and a half) so I guess that's not my problem.

Next! ;)

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Re: Netowrk Card BCE not working

2009-08-20 Thread Doug Ambrisko
Umar writes:
| Dear Members!
| 
| I have recently Install FreeBSD 7.2 amd64 on DELL R610.
| 
| After successfuly installation network cards are not working and i got error
| 
| bce0: /usr/src/dev/bce/if_bce.c(1386): Unable to write CTX memory: cid_addr = 
0x008, offset = 0x0080
| 
| Would you please help me what should I do?

A new version of firmware should be coming out from Dell that should
resolve this issue.  The firmware can be updated via DOS or Linux
but not from FreeBSD using Linux emulation (atleast not yet) :-(

A short time solution is to find a diag utility for the NIC and
then disable management function in all NICs.

Doug A.
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Re: USB mouse not detected on boot of 7-STABLE

2009-08-20 Thread Luke Dean



On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, Luke Dean wrote:




On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, Warren Block wrote:


On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, Luke Dean wrote:



I'm tracking 7-STABLE.
Recently.. within the last month or so..  my simple USB mouse stopped
being detected at boot time.
The /dev/ums0 device simply does not appear unless I unplug the mouse
and plug it back in again.  Then it is detected.

I don't even know where to begin looking for answers to this one.

Is there something I can do to force the system to rescan for my mouse
to save me from crawling around on the floor whenever I reboot?


Do you have Legacy USB support enabled in the BIOS?  If so, try turning 
it off.


I tried it both ways.
I get some waiting for BIOS to give up control messages for some of my
/dev/usb devices in the dmesg now too, even with legacy USB support
disabled in the BIOS.
Thanks for the suggestions.  Maybe I'll try upgrading to 8 soon.



Replying to myself...
Upgrading to 8 fixed the problem.
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livelocks and deadlocks on 8.0BETA2

2009-08-20 Thread Kevin Oberman
I have a quad-core system that I updated to 8.0 about 2 weeks ago. It
ran fine until yesterday when I used the PATA/ATAPI DVD drive to read a
disk. Then the fun began. I saw two totally different presentations, but
I hope that they both are manifestations of the same problem.

First, the livelock. When attempting to play video off of the disk (xine
or mplayer) while the CPU was busy, xorg would lock up solid. All CPUs
were running a threaded code that run them all at 100%, but they were
running niced to 10.

Couldn't kill xorg, even with a 'kill -9'. Ate 100% of a CPU, though the
CPU it was running on changed periodically. Could not switch to vty. The
display was frozen and I could do nothing from the console.

I could log in from another system and the system behaved normally.
While I could not free the console, I could and did manage to shut down
the system and reboot. This happened repeatedly and within a few
seconds of starting the video playing.

Now the deadlock. This one is weird in one instance. I had finished with
a disk and unmounted it. No problems. Then I ejected the unmounted
disk. (Yes, df(1) did not show it.) After the disk ejected, the system
deadlocked. Frozen completely. Could not even ping it on the net, so it
was in the kernel. I had no luck doing anything, so I had to kill power.

Then it got worse. The second time this happened, I inserted an erased
DVD while the system was in POST. The system started to boot, but,
shortly after probing acd0, while the boot was waiting for: usbus7
usbus6 usbus5 usbus4 usbus3 usbus2 usbus1 usbus0, and about the time it
should have probed for cd0 (atapicam), the system locked up and would not
finish the boot. This is prior to mounting root.

After several repeats of this, I ejected the disk from the drive and it
booted just fine. Clearly something with ATAPI is not happy. Should I
not be using atapicam with 8.0? 

I won't have access to this system until next Tuesday and the time I
have to tinker will be limited, but I can try setting up to break into
the debugger (if the system is even seeing the keyboard) or do something
else to get an idea of what is going on.
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Fatal trap 30 w/ latest 8.0-BETA2/amd64

2009-08-20 Thread Jason Harmening
Sorry for the partial dump--I don't (yet) have a swap partition, so I
can't do postmortem:

Machine is nehalem (4 cores + HT):

FreeBSD riviera.austin.rr.com 8.0-BETA2 FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 #1: Thu Aug
20 09:06:25 CDT 2009
ja...@riviera.austin.rr.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM  amd64

current process = 11 (idle: cpu1)
[Thread pid 11 tid 19 ]
Stopped at acpi_cpu_c1+0x6: popq %rbp
Tracing pid 11 tid 19 td 0xff000169dab0
acpi_cpu_c1() at acpi_cpu_c1+0x6
acpi_cpu_idle() at acpi_cpu_idle+0x13b
cpu_idle_acpi() at cpu_idle_acpi+0x1f
cpu_idle() at cpu_idle+0x1c
sched_idletd() at sched_idletd+0x258
fork_exit() at fork_exit+0x147
fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0xe
--- trap 0, rip = 0, rsp = 0xff876d30, rbp = 0
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Re: Blocked process

2009-08-20 Thread CmdLnKid

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:42 -, doconnor wrote:


On Thu, 20 Aug 2009, Kostik Belousov wrote:

Things like ls on the console might take several seconds to respond
when the box didn't seem to be very busy (but wasn't idle, maybe
serving a little NFS). It wasn't the shell getting swapped out or
anything else obvious. This was on SMP, not using X. The problem
went away with 6.4R (had to stay with 6.x for unrelated reasons).


6.1 was released with a bug in NFS server, causing serious slowdown
when non-MPSAFE fs was exported.


Hmmm.. this is 6.2 (and a half) so I guess that's not my problem.

Next! ;)



I had a problem like this once when the NFS mount stopped responding and 
any command that was issued seemed to hang. This all was happening while 
not paying attention to the NFS mount and that mount being various 
directories under /var and including /var/mail. A little deeper I 
eventually came across and what made me feel pretty stupid is that the 
$SHELL whether it be csh, ksh, bash or sh checks for mail on command 
completion or invocation and being so that the NFS mount stopped 
responding the process would hang until the mount came back or the 
machine was rebooted. I continued for a while using /var/mail over NFS 
while setting or unset mail variables for the shell. You may also 
want to check into whether something is trying to acquire a lock on a 
file over that NFS mount which could accrue some extra time making it 
seem like a process is hung.


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