IPFW and NAT woes on 8-STABLE
So, I decided to csup my sources from Jan 18 2010 to something more recent this weekend; but when I completed the upgrade, my IPFW and NAT configuration didn't work anymore. I spent the better part of the day making sure that: 1. the upgrade was correct 2. my hardware was good. When I finally managed to revert the system source back to an earlier snapshot (hard to do when I had no connectivity to the 'Net), my configuration started working again. Has anyone else had the same problem as I've been having, or did I just get the code at a bad time? Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz -- A little learning is a dangerous thing but a lot of ignorance is just as bad. - Bob Edwards ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: CPU problems after 8.0-STABLE update
on 05/04/2010 05:57 Akephalos Akephalos said the following: Thank you for your replies. Sadly, I must say that I currently don't have the system installed at all so i won't be able to test the issue any more. @Andriy: I checked dmesg for RTC (with grep -i) and is was not there. Among the messages it seemed that the system detected my dual CPU type and stuff. There was something containing 'rtc', possibly 'atrtc' what Attilio asked for, but it's irrelevant as long as I don't remember the message - it didn't seem to e an error. @Attilio: my CPU is AMD Turion 64 X2. Because I don't have FreeBSD installed any more, I can't tell you the report, I am very sorry, my computer was not usable as a workstation (port-related) and I was forced to uninstall to try something else. I think the problem can be replicated on any computer with this processor, it happened to me for two times, once updating to CURRENT and once to STABLE, through buildkernel/world, hopefully someone else will be able to provide the feedback. So we weren't fast enough and lost you :-( Holidays, you know. -- Andriy Gapon ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: install touching mbr
Hello, On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 15:44:50 -0600 (MDT) Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Sat, 3 Apr 2010, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 05:48:12PM -0300, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: I just installed a 8.0R amd64 from memstick. when asked, I said to leave mbr untouched. when I rebooted, it was freebsd bootloader that was on control. this options is not what I think it should, or there is really a issue here ? I can confirm this behaviour. Someone may have broken something when tinkering around in that part of sysinstall (since the Standard vs. BootMgr options were moved around compared to previous releases). Not sure how to repeat the bug, but it's been there at least a few months: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?alpine.BSF.2.00.0909262030060.13303 http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?58c737d70909262054k7c7b1402w4f9c902fdca2640c Sooo.., which **IS** the correct option to leave the existing MBR untouched??? Regards, S Roberts -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
fault tolerant web servers on freebsd
Hi All, I am thinking about building a fault tolerant web servers running FreeBSD. The servers would be serving web sites using jails+apache+php+mysql. Would anyone be so kind, as to give me some advice about building such a solution? I have read a lot about freebsd cluster, but it was focused on computing clusters, and not fault tolerant one. If anyone has some experience with the issue, I'll be very grateful. Best regards, mjb ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: CPU problems after 8.0-STABLE update
On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:45:34 +0300 Andriy Gapon a...@icyb.net.ua wrote: So we weren't fast enough and lost you :-( Holidays, you know. -- Andriy Gapon It's ok, I had to experiment fast with different things. My intention is to rebuild the system up to the next week-end - if I have the time, with overnight buildings, maybe tomorrow or so and I'll come up with the answers you require. Cheers, Mihai ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
sysctl(?) problem on boot in 8-STABLE
Hi, I upgraded an 8-STABLE box to r206119 and am now unable to boot multi-user. I found that it hangs at line 58/59 of /etc/rc.d/initrandom: ( ps -fauxww; sysctl -a; date; df -ib; dmesg; ps -fauxww ) \ | dd of=/dev/random bs=8k 2/dev/null when I run each of these commands by hand, I get only as far as 'sysctl -a', which seems to exit normally but leaves my keyboard unresponsive (actually acting like I'm leaning on the enter key). more digging reveals 'sysctl dev.uart' to be what triggers it. this is the entirety of dev.uart from r204154: dev.uart.0.%desc: 16550 or compatible dev.uart.0.%driver: uart dev.uart.0.%location: handle=\_SB_.PCI0.UAR1 dev.uart.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=PNP0501 _UID=1 dev.uart.0.%parent: acpi0 dev.uart.0.wake: 0 seems about the same from r206119. I've attached boot output from r206119. Any ideas? any other info I need to provide? thanks much, Jeff ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sysctl(?) problem on boot in 8-STABLE
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 10:56:22AM -0400, Jeff Blank wrote: I've attached boot output from r206119. whoops--either I didn't or it got tanked. sorry. http://web.mr-happy.com/mlf/20100405-boot-r206119.txt Jeff ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fault tolerant web servers on freebsd
You may want to check out carp(4). http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=carp On 4/5/2010 7:29 AM, Maciej Jan Broniarz wrote: Hi All, I am thinking about building a fault tolerant web servers running FreeBSD. The servers would be serving web sites using jails+apache+php+mysql. Would anyone be so kind, as to give me some advice about building such a solution? I have read a lot about freebsd cluster, but it was focused on computing clusters, and not fault tolerant one. If anyone has some experience with the issue, I'll be very grateful. Best regards, mjb ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7?
Hello Masoom, On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:56:39 +0530 Masoom Shaikh masoom.sha...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 7:13 PM, S Roberts sta...@vickiandstacey.com wrote: Hello Masoom, On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:54:12 +0530 Masoom Shaikh masoom.sha...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:45 PM, S Roberts sta...@vickiandstacey.com wrote: Hi Masoom, Good to hear from you.., On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:32:57 +0530 Masoom Shaikh masoom.sha...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Stacey Roberts sta...@vickiandstacey.com wrote: Hello Leslie, Good to hear from you.., On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Leslie Jensen wrote: http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org/msg229158.html /Leslie I had a look at the thread - thanks.., The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that its compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that actually states that it supports windows 7. I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now That's great to hear.., Can you confirm that you started off with a pre-installed windows 7 machine / single disk and then **added** FreeBSD, please? Win7 was not pre-installed. I have three partitions, part1(c:) - NTFS part2(d:) - FAT32 part3 - UFS2, not visible to Win7, visible in Disk Management console as free space Win7 is installed on part1, part2 is data drive so that bot OSes can read/write do not want to use fusefs first install Win7, then FreeBSD, then boot in Win7 and use EasyBCD to add FreeBSD as another entry remember to advise FreeBSD to not touch MBR. Understood. So for your installation of FreeBSD, selecting None Leave Master Boot Record untouched actually did work - and you did **NOT** find that sysinstall still went ahead and messed with the mbr? Sorry for the questions, but I recall a recent thread where a few people confirmed that this option does not behave as expected, and folks ended up with broken windows mbrs. yes, http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2010-April/056100.html thread is actually correct, for me it is fresh install, in your case it is little tricky to get it straight for a fresh install you can install FreeBSD first then Win7, and then use EasyBSD. done. Wiping the machine as you suggest is not an option. This is a new, windows 7 preinstalled machine that came with **NO** windows 7 install disks. i guess, i have done that too. i.e. installed FreeBSD after Win7, then used Win7 CD to repair but take care, it can fail with that irritating send, don't send dialog box I'd have like to have known this earlier.., I wasn't set to start until later this evening, so I guess its good to have found this out now. so here is one trick if you got guts to try :). I recently got saved with this trick you have Win7 pre-installed, now free up some space and let FreeBSD install, select the option do not touch mbr. Next boot you will find Win7 gone. Boot from Win7 CD and let it install at same location where it is/was installed. Setup will warn you of already existing installation. It might additionally say that it will move old installation to Windows.old folder. Ignore this warning and let setup continue. If I remember correctly the second option is Extracting Windows Files(percentage). Let it come to second step and execute it for a 5 mins, then cancel the setup, ignore all warning and it will undo all changes, but by that time it will already have fixed the bootloader problem. After you cancel setup, give it all time it needs to undo, don't force reboot/power down. hope this will enable you too install FreeBSD, a great development environment have fun! As I said above, the machine did not come with windows 7 installation media included. W Block earlier referred to the sysinstall mbr issue as a rare bug, but if you have yourself encountered this bug 6 months ago, then it would appear to have been broken for a long time. A search of PRs show; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 14:37:58 GMT: bin/86600: sysinstall(8): Sysinstall boot manager screen is misleading Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:03:41 -0800 (PST): bin/121124: sysinstall(8): FreeBSD 6.3 installation deletes MBR partition Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:11:51 GMT: bin/129771: sysinstall(8): 7.1 RC1 sysinstalls installs boot0 even when told not to I've been managing FreeBSD servers for years now, so I guess this type of issue did slip through my attention gap - even so, going by the earliest date there, seems like this ball has been dropping for a long time :-/ Thanks for the suggestions, Masoom. Regards, S Roberts Thanks again, Masoom. Regards, S Roberts have fun!! Tell me something - Which of the 3 FreeBSD boot manager options did you select, please? don't let FreeBSD touch your MBR, Win7 won't like that Thanks! Regards, S Roberts
Re: fault tolerant web servers on freebsd
W dniu 10-04-05 17:45, Mike Jakubik pisze: You may want to check out carp(4). http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=carp Thanks. Carp is fine, but I still have to figure out how to synchronize data on disks or in the database. Usign just carp would leave me with two separate databases containing only parts of users input. Is there a soulution similar to drbd+heartbeat on Linux? Geom_gate looks nice, but I have no idea if it has been used in a production enviroment. All best, mjb ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fault tolerant web servers on freebsd
on 05/04/2010 20:04 Maciej Jan Broniarz said the following: W dniu 10-04-05 17:45, Mike Jakubik pisze: You may want to check out carp(4). http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=carp Thanks. Carp is fine, but I still have to figure out how to synchronize data on disks or in the database. Usign just carp would leave me with two separate databases containing only parts of users input. Is there a soulution similar to drbd+heartbeat on Linux? Geom_gate looks nice, but I have no idea if it has been used in a production enviroment. Perhaps you would find HAST useful: http://wiki.freebsd.org/HAST -- Andriy Gapon ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sysctl(?) problem on boot in 8-STABLE
On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:56:22 -0400 Jeff Blank wrote: Hi, I upgraded an 8-STABLE box to r206119 and am now unable to boot multi-user. I found that it hangs at line 58/59 of /etc/rc.d/initrandom: ( ps -fauxww; sysctl -a; date; df -ib; dmesg; ps -fauxww ) \ | dd of=/dev/random bs=8k 2/dev/null when I run each of these commands by hand, I get only as far as 'sysctl -a', which seems to exit normally but leaves my keyboard unresponsive (actually acting like I'm leaning on the enter key). more digging reveals 'sysctl dev.uart' to be what triggers it. kern/143040 looks similar. -- Mikolaj Golub ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sysctl(?) problem on boot in 8-STABLE
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 09:11:39PM +0300, Mikolaj Golub wrote: On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:56:22 -0400 Jeff Blank wrote: when I run each of these commands by hand, I get only as far as 'sysctl -a', which seems to exit normally but leaves my keyboard unresponsive (actually acting like I'm leaning on the enter key). more digging reveals 'sysctl dev.uart' to be what triggers it. kern/143040 looks similar. Ah, you're right, it does. Could someone please take a look at that PR then? Looks like it was submitted in January but hasn't been assigned yet. thanks, Jeff ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days
Just a status update: PNG and cURL are in, and png fall-outs are believed to be fixed. Xorg update has gone through an -exp run on Pointy and our xorg team is working on fixing the approx. 60 ports with problems. I will begin -exp runs for Gnome and KDE updates tonight or tomorrow morning. Packages status: - i386: - 6 after png and curl - 7 after png and curl - an 8 incremental build is in progress and should be shortly finished - 9 pacakges are from middle March - amd64: - 6 packages are post png and curl - 7 build is in progress and will be finished tomorrow - 8 last build was done in the middle of the png update/fixes; we won't run an other before Xorg, KDE and Gnome go in (for lack of resources). - 9 build in progress (with sources that are believed to fix the zlib problem). In other words, if you wish to update without waiting for Xorg, Gnome and KDE now it's a good moment. HTH, -- IOnut - Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD user Intellectual Property is nowhere near as valuable as Intellect FreeBSD committer - ite...@freebsd.org, PGP Key ID 057E9F8B493A297B signature.asc Description: PGP signature
ldd manpage - example does not work
The manpage for ldd(1) gives a nice example of finding binaries, which link against a given library, see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=lddapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+8.0-RELEASEformat=html The example looks as follows: find . -type f | xargs -n1 file -F | grep ELF | cut -f1 -d' ' | xargs ldd -f '%A %o\n' | grep libc.so.6 Unfortunately this example does not work for me. Is seems that the part with xargs does not output anything and so is the showstopper (?) It would be nice if someone could give me some advice what is wrong here. Thanks in advance, Rainer Hurling ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ldd manpage - example does not work
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Rainer Hurling rhur...@gwdg.de wrote: The manpage for ldd(1) gives a nice example of finding binaries, which link against a given library, see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=lddapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+8.0-RELEASEformat=html The example looks as follows: find . -type f | xargs -n1 file -F | grep ELF | cut -f1 -d' ' | xargs ldd -f '%A %o\n' | grep libc.so.6 Unfortunately this example does not work for me. Is seems that the part with xargs does not output anything and so is the showstopper (?) It would be nice if someone could give me some advice what is wrong here. 1. The file(1) usage looks incorrect (I get a lot of messages like the following): Usage: file [-bcikLhnNrsvz0] [-e test] [-f namefile] [-F separator] [-m magicfiles] file... file -C -m magicfiles Try `file --help' for more information. 2. It's no longer libc.so.6 for many versions of FreeBSD; it can potentially be libc.so.7... HTH, -Garrett ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ldd manpage - example does not work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/10 14:40, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Rainer Hurling rhur...@gwdg.de wrote: The example looks as follows: find . -type f | xargs -n1 file -F | grep ELF | cut -f1 -d' ' | xargs ldd -f '%A %o\n' | grep libc.so.6 [ .. snip .. ] 1. The file(1) usage looks incorrect (I get a lot of messages like the following): Usage: file [-bcikLhnNrsvz0] [-e test] [-f namefile] [-F separator] [-m magicfiles] file... file -C -m magicfiles Try `file --help' for more information. 2. It's no longer libc.so.6 for many versions of FreeBSD; it can potentially be libc.so.7... Try .. find . -type f | xargs -n1 file -F ' ' | grep ELF | cut -f1 -d' ' \ | xargs ldd -f '%A %o\n' | grep libc.so.[67] ;-) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAku6MVIACgkQQv9rrgRC1JLrXgCZAauZv2h8SrqkKdJNL5Xpv9KN ml8An20zgpbjrJVZ2XdLc6/HVch69f3w =sBOs -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fault tolerant web servers on freebsd
soulution similar to drbd+heartbeat on Linux? Geom_gate looks nice, but I have no idea if it has been used in a production enviroment. I use it for production - it works nicely, but you wont get automatic failover that way. -pete. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: IPFW and NAT woes on 8-STABLE
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 2:18 AM, Jonathan Chen j...@chen.org.nz wrote: I decided to csup my sources from Jan 18 2010 to something more recent this weekend; but when I completed the upgrade, my IPFW and NAT configuration didn't work anymore. I spent the better part of the day making sure that: 1. the upgrade was correct 2. my hardware was good. When I finally managed to revert the system source back to an earlier snapshot (hard to do when I had no connectivity to the 'Net), my configuration started working again. Has anyone else had the same problem as I've been having, or did I just get the code at a bad time? There's a long thread about this on the freebsd-ipfw list. See the archives for all the details. -- Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days
Ion-Mihai, Does this fix the following issue? I have installed FreeBSD 8.0 and updated it to current p2 I try to use konqueror and I get There was an error loading the module About-Page for Konqueror. The diagnostics is: Cannot load library /usr/local/kde4/lib/kde4/konq_aboutpage.so: (Shared object libjpeg.so.10 not found, required by libkhtml.so.7) Other programs like kile and k3b don't work because of the same message or others. I did not know about this, otherwise I would not have tried to install these programs in the first place, till the coast was clear :( Thanks though, I saw the message a little bit late :( Regards, Antonio On 4/5/10, Ion-Mihai Tetcu ite...@freebsd.org wrote: Just a status update: PNG and cURL are in, and png fall-outs are believed to be fixed. Xorg update has gone through an -exp run on Pointy and our xorg team is working on fixing the approx. 60 ports with problems. I will begin -exp runs for Gnome and KDE updates tonight or tomorrow morning. Packages status: - i386: - 6 after png and curl - 7 after png and curl - an 8 incremental build is in progress and should be shortly finished - 9 pacakges are from middle March - amd64: - 6 packages are post png and curl - 7 build is in progress and will be finished tomorrow - 8 last build was done in the middle of the png update/fixes; we won't run an other before Xorg, KDE and Gnome go in (for lack of resources). - 9 build in progress (with sources that are believed to fix the zlib problem). In other words, if you wish to update without waiting for Xorg, Gnome and KDE now it's a good moment. HTH, -- IOnut - Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD user Intellectual Property is nowhere near as valuable as Intellect FreeBSD committer - ite...@freebsd.org, PGP Key ID 057E9F8B493A297B ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Antonio Olivares olivares14...@gmail.com wrote: Ion-Mihai, Does this fix the following issue? I have installed FreeBSD 8.0 and updated it to current p2 I try to use konqueror and I get There was an error loading the module About-Page for Konqueror. The diagnostics is: Cannot load library /usr/local/kde4/lib/kde4/konq_aboutpage.so: (Shared object libjpeg.so.10 not found, required by libkhtml.so.7) Other programs like kile and k3b don't work because of the same message or others. I did not know about this, otherwise I would not have tried to install these programs in the first place, till the coast was clear :( Thanks though, I saw the message a little bit late :( Nope. You need to update all of jpeg. See UPDATING for more details (but substitute this for the portmaster directions: portmaster -r 'jpeg-*' . HTH, -Garrett ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fault tolerant web servers on freebsd
Maciej Jan Broniarz ha scritto: W dniu 10-04-05 17:45, Mike Jakubik pisze: You may want to check out carp(4). http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=carp Thanks. Carp is fine, but I still have to figure out how to synchronize data on disks or in the database. Usign just carp would leave me with two separate databases containing only parts of users input. Is there a soulution similar to drbd+heartbeat on Linux? Geom_gate looks nice, but I have no idea if it has been used in a production enviroment. Just to use exact words, fault toulerancy is not possible with any FreeBSD/Linux O.S. F.T. means outage can occur in every moment, but all current operation will be always completed by other equipments; so there will not be interrupted/lost operations. The most you can have is HA (High Availability), that means operations currently executed on servers which have outage are interrupted, but new operations will be completed as they will be executed on other equipments. Carp is fine for HA is you have always both db and file storage always available. For DB you can use MySQL replica, cross-replicating local MySQL data among all servers. Each server will keep its own copy, always up to date with other servers. This will make all DB data always available, except data recorded in the last milliseconds. About file storage, you must have an external reliable NFS server. Tonino All best, mjb ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- in...@zioniInterazioni di Antonio Nati http://www.interazioni.it to...@interazioni.it ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ldd manpage - example does not work
Thank you very much for your answers! On 05.04.2010 20:52 (UTC+1), Michael Butler wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/05/10 14:40, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Rainer Hurlingrhur...@gwdg.de wrote: The example looks as follows: find . -type f | xargs -n1 file -F | grep ELF | cut -f1 -d' ' | xargs ldd -f '%A %o\n' | grep libc.so.6 [ .. snip .. ] 1. The file(1) usage looks incorrect (I get a lot of messages like the following): Usage: file [-bcikLhnNrsvz0] [-e test] [-f namefile] [-F separator] [-m magicfiles] file... file -C -m magicfiles Try `file --help' for more information. 2. It's no longer libc.so.6 for many versions of FreeBSD; it can potentially be libc.so.7... I want to create a list of binaries, which are linked against the old libz.so.5 and must be upgraded ... find /usr/local/ -type f | xargs -n1 file -F ' ' | grep ELF | cut -f1 -d' ' | xargs ldd -f '%A %o\n' | grep libz.so.5 ~/libz.so.5.txt Try .. find . -type f | xargs -n1 file -F ' ' | grep ELF | cut -f1 -d' ' \ | xargs ldd -f '%A %o\n' | grep libc.so.[67] ;-) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAku6MVIACgkQQv9rrgRC1JLrXgCZAauZv2h8SrqkKdJNL5Xpv9KN ml8An20zgpbjrJVZ2XdLc6/HVch69f3w =sBOs -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fault tolerant web servers on freebsd
W dniu 10-04-05 22:08, Tonix (Antonio Nati) pisze: Maciej Jan Broniarz ha scritto: W dniu 10-04-05 17:45, Mike Jakubik pisze: Just to use exact words, fault toulerancy is not possible with any FreeBSD/Linux O.S. F.T. means outage can occur in every moment, but all current operation will be always completed by other equipments; so there will not be interrupted/lost operations. Hmm. Thanks for the tip. Which *NIX os can be used to build an FT solution then? Solaris? AIX? HP-UX? Carp is fine for HA is you have always both db and file storage always available. For DB you can use MySQL replica, cross-replicating local MySQL data among all servers. Each server will keep its own copy, always up to date with other servers. This will make all DB data always available, except data recorded in the last milliseconds. About file storage, you must have an external reliable NFS server. So, to be redundant one should run 2 x web servers + 2 x storage +2 x mysql. Sounds like fun, but also like a lot of work. So how do the web hosting prividers manage to use FreeBSD for theirs solution? I am curious do they have a cluster/reudndant solution for every part of the system, or they just accept thet something will fail at some time. Best regards, mjb ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fault tolerant web servers on freebsd
Maciej Jan Broniarz ha scritto: W dniu 10-04-05 22:08, Tonix (Antonio Nati) pisze: Maciej Jan Broniarz ha scritto: W dniu 10-04-05 17:45, Mike Jakubik pisze: Just to use exact words, fault toulerancy is not possible with any FreeBSD/Linux O.S. F.T. means outage can occur in every moment, but all current operation will be always completed by other equipments; so there will not be interrupted/lost operations. Hmm. Thanks for the tip. Which *NIX os can be used to build an FT solution then? Solaris? AIX? HP-UX? For a FT solution you need usually an hardware solution, very expensive. Server must have all doubled, with custom chips for checking if parts are working (and which part is broken, which may not be easy to understand). VMware claims to have a software fault toulerant solution, syncronizing two servers in real-time, but I don't know the efficiency. The most ISP use HA solutions, which are ok for the most of WEB/e-mail operations. Operations are not available for a few milliseconds/seconds, depending on the architecture you use. Just to complete, drbd+heartbeat are NOT FT. They are HA. When the master server goes down, backup server must acknowledge the new status, then mount the replicated disk (think to disk check!), then start services working on that disk. So this solution needs a lot of seconds, probably minutes to work. With a good carp architecture, you just need milliseconds. Tonino -- in...@zioniInterazioni di Antonio Nati http://www.interazioni.it to...@interazioni.it ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fault tolerant web servers on freebsd
Quoting Maciej Jan Broniarz gau...@gausus.net: W dniu 10-04-05 22:08, Tonix (Antonio Nati) pisze: Maciej Jan Broniarz ha scritto: W dniu 10-04-05 17:45, Mike Jakubik pisze: Just to use exact words, fault toulerancy is not possible with any FreeBSD/Linux O.S. F.T. means outage can occur in every moment, but all current operation will be always completed by other equipments; so there will not be interrupted/lost operations. Hmm. Thanks for the tip. Which *NIX os can be used to build an FT solution then? Solaris? AIX? HP-UX? You're asking a question that has not easy or compete answer. Fault tolerant at what level? Do you want to guarantee that _every_ DB operation competes? What about random file reads or writes? Do you want to guarantee that two identical operations with the same data will produce the same result? (That's _not_ the same as the previous questions...) So first you have to define your workload, then define what errors you must avoid or allow, and then define how to deal with failures, errors, etc. Then you can start talking about High Availability vs. level of Fault tolerance, vs. John - J. T. Farmer jfar...@goldsword.comjfar...@orfencer.org GoldSword Systems, Knoxville TN Coach Instructor Consulting, Knoxville Academy of the Blade Software Development, Maryville Fencing Club Project Management ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD 7.3/i386 libalias related panic
Hi,
I have a machine that acts as a NAS (mpd5 PPPoE).
Also on the same machine using NAT (ipfw + ng_nat).
Not so long ago, during one hour, I have two identical kernel panic:
FreeBSD nas3.xxx.ru 7.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.3-RELEASE #0: Sun Mar 21 17:55:26
MSK 2010 i386
nas3# kgdb kernel.debug /var/crash/vmcore.1
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This GDB was configured as i386-marcel-freebsd...
Unread portion of the kernel message buffer:
Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
cpuid = 1; apic id = 01
fault virtual address = 0x7d4c
fault code = supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer = 0x20:0x8069ac41
stack pointer = 0x28:0xd259a8b0
frame pointer = 0x28:0xd259a8c8
code segment= base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
= DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
current process = 27 (irq17: bge1)
trap number = 12
panic: page fault
cpuid = 1
Uptime: 1h14m2s
Physical memory: 1014 MB
Dumping 103 MB: 88 72 56 40 24bge1: watchdog timeout -- resetting
8
5bge1: link state changed to DOWN
Reading symbols from /boot/kernel/acpi.ko...Reading symbols from
/boot/kernel/acpi.ko.symbols...done.
done.
Loaded symbols for /boot/kernel/acpi.ko
#0 doadump () at pcpu.h:196
196 __asm __volatile(movl %%fs:0,%0 : =r (td));
(kgdb) list *0x8069ac41
0x8069ac41 is in DeleteLink (/usr/src/sys/netinet/libalias/alias_db.c:857).
852 {
853 struct libalias *la = lnk-la;
854
855 LIBALIAS_LOCK_ASSERT(la);
856 /* Don't do anything if the link is marked permanent */
857 if (la-deleteAllLinks == 0 lnk-flags LINK_PERMANENT)
858 return;
859
860 #ifndef NO_FW_PUNCH
861 /* Delete associated firewall hole, if any */
(kgdb)
(kgdb) bt
#0 doadump () at pcpu.h:196
#1 0x8059ce94 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:418
#2 0x8059d31a in panic (fmt=0x104 Address 0x104 out of bounds) at
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:574
#3 0x807855dd in trap_fatal (frame=0xd259a870, eva=40) at
/usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:950
#4 0x8078595a in trap_pfault (frame=0xd259a870, usermode=0, eva=32076) at
/usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:863
#5 0x80786277 in trap (frame=0xd259a870) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:541
#6 0x8076b0eb in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:166
#7 0x8069ac41 in DeleteLink (lnk=0x84e0f980) at
/usr/src/sys/netinet/libalias/alias_db.c:853
#8 0x8069ae3e in HouseKeeping (la=0x84874000) at
/usr/src/sys/netinet/libalias/alias_db.c:843
#9 0x8069947b in LibAliasInLocked (la=0x84874000, ptr=0x8458e810 E,
maxpacketsize=2032) at /usr/src/sys/netinet/libalias/alias.c:1246
#10 0x8069a225 in LibAliasIn (la=0x84874000, ptr=0x8458e810 E,
maxpacketsize=2032) at /usr/src/sys/netinet/libalias/alias.c:1228
#11 0x8065fd91 in ng_nat_rcvdata (hook=0x84842900, item=0x84cebba0) at
/usr/src/sys/netgraph/ng_nat.c:707
#12 0x80658606 in ng_apply_item (node=0x847de780, item=0x84cebba0, rw=1) at
/usr/src/sys/netgraph/ng_base.c:2336
#13 0x80657607 in ng_snd_item (item=0x84cebba0, flags=Variable flags is not
available.
) at /usr/src/sys/netgraph/ng_base.c:2254
#14 0x8067e4b6 in ipfw_check_in (arg=0x0, m0=0xd259aba8, ifp=0x84179800,
dir=1, inp=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/netinet/ip_fw_pfil.c:189
#15 0x8064af6f in pfil_run_hooks (ph=0x80847c00, mp=0xd259ac00,
ifp=0x84179800, dir=1, inp=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/net/pfil.c:78
#16 0x806812bd in ip_input (m=0x87135900) at
/usr/src/sys/netinet/ip_input.c:416
#17 0x8063efba in ether_demux (ifp=0x84179800, m=0x87135900) at
/usr/src/sys/net/if_ethersubr.c:834
#18 0x8063f1d6 in ether_input (ifp=0x84179800, m=0x87135900) at
/usr/src/sys/net/if_ethersubr.c:692
#19 0x80490c8f in bge_rxeof (sc=0x84187000, rx_prod=465, holdlck=1) at
/usr/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c:3392
#20 0x80492d67 in bge_intr (xsc=0x84187000) at
/usr/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c:3653
#21 0x8057c7bb in ithread_loop (arg=0x84180500) at
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_intr.c:1181
#22 0x80578f25 in fork_exit (callout=0x8057c698 ithread_loop,
arg=0x84180500, frame=0xd259ad38) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_fork.c:811
#23 0x8076b160 in fork_trampoline () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:271
Thanks for any help !
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Re: ldd manpage - example does not work
On 05/04/2010 22:09, Rainer Hurling wrote: I want to create a list of binaries, which are linked against the old libz.so.5 and must be upgraded ... Install sysutils/bsdadminscripts and rung pkg_libchk. :) -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fault tolerant web servers on freebsd
W dniu 10-04-05 22:43, jfar...@goldsword.com pisze: Quoting Maciej Jan Broniarz gau...@gausus.net: W dniu 10-04-05 22:08, Tonix (Antonio Nati) pisze: Maciej Jan Broniarz ha scritto: W dniu 10-04-05 17:45, Mike Jakubik pisze: So first you have to define your workload, then define what errors you must avoid or allow, and then define how to deal with failures, errors, etc. Then you can start talking about High Availability vs. level of Fault tolerance, vs. Let's say i need to run a few php/sql based web sites and I would like to maintain uptime of about 99,99% per month. No matter how good the hardware - it will always fail at some time. My goal is to build a system, that can maintain that uptime. From what You say I need some level of HA system, to maintain the required uptime. So, as I've said earlier (correct me, if I'm wrong) - the setup could look something like that: - 2 web servers with carp - 2 storage servers with on-line sync mechanism running - 2 mysql servers with on-line database replication (i'm skiping power and network issues at the moment). Few people have told me about a setup with linux, drbd and heartbeat which offers them some level of HA. Has anyone tried anything similar on FreeBSD? mjb ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fault tolerant web servers on freebsd
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Maciej Jan Broniarz gau...@gausus.netwrote: Let's say i need to run a few php/sql based web sites and I would like to maintain uptime of about 99,99% per month. No matter how good the hardware - it will always fail at some time. My goal is to build a system, that can maintain that uptime. From what You say I need some level of HA system, to maintain the required uptime. So, as I've said earlier (correct me, if I'm wrong) - the setup could look something like that: - 2 web servers with carp - 2 storage servers with on-line sync mechanism running - 2 mysql servers with on-line database replication (i'm skiping power and network issues at the moment). Few people have told me about a setup with linux, drbd and heartbeat which offers them some level of HA. Has anyone tried anything similar on FreeBSD? Each HA implementation is different, you still really haven't provided enough details eg are servers running off same switch, or are you going to have latency issues(DRBD and ggate both dislike latency). DB replication doesn't necessarily need to be done via block level replication. Generally speaking, you'll make your storage backend HA first, then build other services off that like iscsi or nfs. There is no single answer to this because there are so many needs and ways to address them. and yes, sysutils/heartbeat works with *BSD and they are in use. There are also other options like http://lethargy.org/~jesus/writes/postgresql-warm-standby-on-zfs-crack -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days
On Monday 05 April 2010 21:31:13 Garrett Cooper wrote: On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Antonio Olivares olivares14...@gmail.com wrote: Ion-Mihai, Does this fix the following issue? I have installed FreeBSD 8.0 and updated it to current p2 I try to use konqueror and I get There was an error loading the module About-Page for Konqueror. The diagnostics is: Cannot load library /usr/local/kde4/lib/kde4/konq_aboutpage.so: (Shared object libjpeg.so.10 not found, required by libkhtml.so.7) Other programs like kile and k3b don't work because of the same message or others. I did not know about this, otherwise I would not have tried to install these programs in the first place, till the coast was clear :( Thanks though, I saw the message a little bit late :( Nope. You need to update all of jpeg. See UPDATING for more details (but substitute this for the portmaster directions: portmaster -r 'jpeg-*' . HTH, -Garrett You should wait with this until after the KDE update though if you don’t want to compile KDE twice. - Pascal ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fault tolerant web servers on freebsd
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Maciej Jan Broniarz gau...@gausus.netwrote: Hi All, I am thinking about building a fault tolerant web servers running FreeBSD. The servers would be serving web sites using jails+apache+php+mysql. Would anyone be so kind, as to give me some advice about building such a solution? I have read a lot about freebsd cluster, but it was focused on computing clusters, and not fault tolerant one. If anyone has some experience with the issue, I'll be very grateful. Best regards, mjb There is a concept : Self-stabilization . There will be a ring of computers working simultaneously . If any one of them fails , others will continue to handle tasks requested from those systems . Such a ring may utilize load-balancing to distribute work load to currently working computers . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-stabilization http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.88.4096rep=rep1type=pdf http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A03uoRZ7YbpLwjUB8W.bvZx4?p=self+stabilizationtoggle=1cop=mssei=UTF-8fr=yfp-t-701 www.selfstabilization.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_balancing_%28computing%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Fault_tolerance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Reliability_engineering http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Distributed_computing Actually , FreeBSD itself is an operating system : It manages single computers . You need other software to handle distributed computing . Such a language among others is www.mozart-oz.org *Mozart is available as a FreeBSD port. *Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
binding on 127.0.0.1 not working after upgrade to 7.3
Hello!
I just rebuilt my system from 7.2-stable to 7.3. The first thing to fail
upon restart was the PostgreSQL-server. But there are other failures --
for example, webmin is unreachable at its usual https://localhost:1/
ktrace-ing postgres reveals:
19875 postgres CALL bind(0x3,0x8015190f0,0x10)
19875 postgres STRU struct sockaddr { AF_INET, 127.0.0.1:5432 }
19875 postgres RET bind -1 errno 49 Can't assign requested address
19875 postgres CALL socket(PF_LOCAL,SOCK_DGRAM,0)
19875 postgres RET socket 4
I rebuilt postgress server anew, just in case, but it is still
failing... Changing the listen_addresses from 'localhost' to
'my.lan.ip.add' allows the server to start-up, but now I need to change
the configuration of the local applications...
Similarly, 'ssh localhost' no longer works, although `ssh my.lan.ip.add'
works...
The only unusual thing about my system is that I build with
`NO_INET6=yes'. But it all worked with the kernel from a month ago...
The ::1-definition in /etc/hosts is now commented-out, but that didn't
help any...
Please, advise. Thanks!
-mi
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Re: binding on 127.0.0.1 not working after upgrade to 7.3
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 09:25:51PM -0400, Mikhail T. wrote:
Hello!
I just rebuilt my system from 7.2-stable to 7.3. The first thing to fail
upon restart was the PostgreSQL-server. But there are other failures --
for example, webmin is unreachable at its usual https://localhost:1/
ktrace-ing postgres reveals:
19875 postgres CALL bind(0x3,0x8015190f0,0x10)
19875 postgres STRU struct sockaddr { AF_INET, 127.0.0.1:5432 }
19875 postgres RET bind -1 errno 49 Can't assign requested address
19875 postgres CALL socket(PF_LOCAL,SOCK_DGRAM,0)
19875 postgres RET socket 4
I rebuilt postgress server anew, just in case, but it is still
failing... Changing the listen_addresses from 'localhost' to
'my.lan.ip.add' allows the server to start-up, but now I need to change
the configuration of the local applications...
Similarly, 'ssh localhost' no longer works, although `ssh my.lan.ip.add'
works...
The only unusual thing about my system is that I build with
`NO_INET6=yes'. But it all worked with the kernel from a month ago...
The ::1-definition in /etc/hosts is now commented-out, but that didn't
help any...
Please, advise. Thanks!
Check ifconfig -a and make sure lo0 appears / has a correct IP address,
and the interface is up.
Also, if the machine has firewall rules, make sure they're written so
that lo0 is excluded from the list (in pf.conf, 'set skip on lo0' does
the trick).
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Re: binding on 127.0.0.1 not working after upgrade to 7.3
Jeremy Chadwick написав(ла): Check ifconfig -a and make sure lo0 appears / has a correct IP address, and the interface is up. You are right, it is not up: lo0: flags=8008LOOPBACK,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384 Manually running `ifconfig lo0 127.0.0.1' fixed the problem for the time being... But why? What changed so significantly in the last few month, that lo0 broke, of all things? :-) Thanks! -mi ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: binding on 127.0.0.1 not working after upgrade to 7.3
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 10:51:37PM -0400, Mikhail T. wrote: Jeremy Chadwick написав(ла): Check ifconfig -a and make sure lo0 appears / has a correct IP address, and the interface is up. You are right, it is not up: lo0: flags=8008LOOPBACK,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384 Manually running `ifconfig lo0 127.0.0.1' fixed the problem for the time being... But why? What changed so significantly in the last few month, that lo0 broke, of all things? :-) It hasn't broken on any of the systems I maintain, including my own two home servers. If this problem was common/widespread, there'd be a lot more reports of it coming in. There is likely something else going on in your rc.conf or configuration setup (possibly you botched a mergemaster merge?) which is causing the problem. -- | Jeremy Chadwick j...@parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: install touching mbr
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: On Saturday 03 April 2010 21:58:56 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 05:48:12PM -0300, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: I just installed a 8.0R amd64 from memstick. when asked, I said to leave mbr untouched. when I rebooted, it was freebsd bootloader that was on control. this options is not what I think it should, or there is really a issue here ? I can confirm this behaviour. Someone may have broken something when tinkering around in that part of sysinstall (since the Standard vs. BootMgr options were moved around compared to previous releases). I have a patch at http://reviews.freebsdish.org/r/15/ waiting to be committed. I believe the None option won't change the bootcode itself but will still mark the FreeBSD partition as active. -- Bruce Cran I disagree with some of the wording. Specifically, lines 100-102 of usr.sbin/sade/menus.c If you will only have FreeBSD on the machine the boot manager is not needed and it slows down the boot while offering you the choice of which operating system to boot. ^^ not 100% true, as the boot manager also provides the option of PXE booting. This statement seems excessively wordy and unnecessary. Also, should this be broken up into two patches? One for the change in sade, the other for sysinstall? I'm not picky about this, but you are fixing two issues in two separate programs. -- randi ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
