Fwd: Re: [HEADSUP]: ports feature freeze starts soon

2011-10-08 Thread Chris Rees
Just on case anyone's not on ports@:

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From: "Chris Rees" 
Date: 8 Oct 2011 10:30
Subject: Re: [HEADSUP]: ports feature freeze starts soon
To: "Thomas Mueller" 
Cc: , "Erwin Lansing" 

On 8 October 2011 10:22, Thomas Mueller  wrote:
> from Erwin Lansing :
>
>> In preparation for 9.0 the ports tree will be in feature freeze
>> after release candidate 1 (RC2)is released, currently planned for
>> October 17.
>
> Was there a typo here?  Did you mean release candidate 1 or 2?
>
> RC1 seems more logical, since RC1 has not been released yet,
> and October 17 is only nine days away.
>


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From: Erwin Lansing 
Date: 7 October 2011 17:34
Subject: Re: [HEADSUP]: ports feature freeze starts soon
To: "develop...@freebsd.org" 
On Oct 7, 2011, at 11:20, Erwin Lansing  wrote:

> In preparation for 9.0 the ports tree will be in feature freeze
> after release candidate 1 (RC2)is released, currently planned for
> October 17.
>
Sorry about the typo, just to be clear I did mean RC2, not RC1 as
usual as an RC3 has been planned in this release cycle.

Erwin
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Re: serious packet routing issue causing ntpd high load?

2011-10-08 Thread Vlad Galu
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Li, Qing  wrote:
[...]

I'm seeing this as well. It's very easy to reproduce:

1. Start listening for routing messages on a non-default FIB, e.g.
setfib 2 route monitor
2. Add any static route within that FIB.
3. The machine I run the test on is a heavy DNS client, it generates a
few dozen requests per second. The monitor process starts getting
RTM_MISS messages for each outgoing DNS request (the dst sockaddr is
the same as my first resolv.conf entry, seq is always 0).

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Re: BETA3 not buildable

2011-10-08 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 08/10/2011 10:43, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> 175 STARTTIME!= LC_ALL=C date
> 176 CHECK_TIME!= find ${.CURDIR}/sys/sys/param.h -mtime -0s
> 177 .if !empty(CHECK_TIME)
> 178 .error check your date/time: ${STARTTIME}
> 179 .endif
> 180
>
> The OP is using HEAD (or maybe RELENG_9? [1]), but I would hope the same
> check above would be in that tags' src/Makefile.  Now I'm rambling
> again.

Yep.  Still there, although now at line 216 in stable/9.

> [1]: I assume that's been tagged; I wouldn't know, as it'll be a long
> time before I dare try 9.0, for tons of reasons which I'm not going to
> go into here since they're off-topic (simple version: way, way too many
> bugs in the installer, and bugs like kern/160860 scare the living crap
> out of me to the point where I don't dare touch it).

Correct.  stable/9 has been branched in SVN, and there's a RELENG_9
branch in CVS.  Lots of the infrastructure for the new branch is in
place, but there's still plenty of work to do -- for instance, there
isn't an INDEX-9 file available for ports yet.

The experience of installing and running stable/9 is much smoother than
you might think given your comments.  Certainly it is not ready for
prime-time yet, but it's looking pretty good so far.  What the project
needs now is as much testing as possible, so that bugs can be detected
and fixed before the release.  Which means running up a copy of
9.0-BETA3 on scratch hardware or in a VM and trying out your favourite
applications in an environment where you can afford for it all to go
horribly wrong without spoiling your whole day.  That's asking for
significant time and effort from people and anyone that can manage to do
so will receive no reward other than good karma.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: BETA3 not buildable

2011-10-08 Thread Aryeh Friedman
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 5:45 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 05:38:31AM -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
> > The orginal issue resolved it self over night... but note that I waited 2
> > days for cvsup10.us.freebsd.org to sync in case everything everyone
> raised
> > in this thread where the cause
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Chris Rees  wrote:
> >
> > > On 8 October 2011 03:25, Jeremy Chadwick 
> wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 02:36:25PM -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
> > > >> Just a quick note the repo was synced about 15 mins before this
> > > >>
> > > >> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Aryeh Friedman <
> > > aryeh.fried...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > I have a local cvs repo and after checking src into a completely
> fresh
> > > >> > /usr/src I get:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > flosoft# make buildworld
> > > >> > find: /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h: No such file or directory
> > > >> > "Makefile", line 217: warning: "find /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h
> -mtime
> > > -0s"
> > > >> > returned non-zero status
> > > >> > find: /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h: No such file or directory
> > > >> > "Makefile", line 217: warning: "find /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h
> -mtime
> > > -0s"
> > > >> > returned non-zero status
> > > >
> > > > Note that "I just synced with the repo 15 minutes ago" does not mean
> > > > much.  Those repos are also often "behind", given that they only sync
> > > > with cvsup-master every so often.  What's "every so often?"  It
> varies
> > > > from public cvsup server to public cvsup server, and there's no way
> to
> > > > know.  Great isn't it?
> > > >
> > > > If you are syncing directly off of cvsup-master -- shame on you.  You
> > > > aren't supposed to do this, and I believe the Handbook or
> freebsd-hubs
> > > > even has a policy about it being considered inappropriate.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Not much chance of that;
> > >
> > > [crees@zeus]~% grep host supfile && csup supfile
> > > *default host=cvsup-master.freebsd.org
> > > Connected to 69.147.83.50
> > > Authentication required by the server and not supported by client
> > > [crees@zeus]~%
>
> Why didn't you consider changing cvsup servers instead of waiting 2
> days?  Remember, they should all be (more or less) identical, but my
> previous paragraph ("...they only sync with cvsup-master every so
> often...") still applies.
>
>
1. The reason for waiting was mostly I personally didn't have time to do the
update not that I was actually waiting for it to sync (the point is I didn't
post after the first error)

2. As to your other message I was using RELENG_9
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Re: BETA3 not buildable

2011-10-08 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 05:38:31AM -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
> The orginal issue resolved it self over night... but note that I waited 2
> days for cvsup10.us.freebsd.org to sync in case everything everyone raised
> in this thread where the cause
> 
> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Chris Rees  wrote:
> 
> > On 8 October 2011 03:25, Jeremy Chadwick  wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 02:36:25PM -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
> > >> Just a quick note the repo was synced about 15 mins before this
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Aryeh Friedman <
> > aryeh.fried...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I have a local cvs repo and after checking src into a completely fresh
> > >> > /usr/src I get:
> > >> >
> > >> > flosoft# make buildworld
> > >> > find: /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h: No such file or directory
> > >> > "Makefile", line 217: warning: "find /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h -mtime
> > -0s"
> > >> > returned non-zero status
> > >> > find: /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h: No such file or directory
> > >> > "Makefile", line 217: warning: "find /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h -mtime
> > -0s"
> > >> > returned non-zero status
> > >
> > > Note that "I just synced with the repo 15 minutes ago" does not mean
> > > much.  Those repos are also often "behind", given that they only sync
> > > with cvsup-master every so often.  What's "every so often?"  It varies
> > > from public cvsup server to public cvsup server, and there's no way to
> > > know.  Great isn't it?
> > >
> > > If you are syncing directly off of cvsup-master -- shame on you.  You
> > > aren't supposed to do this, and I believe the Handbook or freebsd-hubs
> > > even has a policy about it being considered inappropriate.
> > >
> >
> > Not much chance of that;
> >
> > [crees@zeus]~% grep host supfile && csup supfile
> > *default host=cvsup-master.freebsd.org
> > Connected to 69.147.83.50
> > Authentication required by the server and not supported by client
> > [crees@zeus]~%

Why didn't you consider changing cvsup servers instead of waiting 2
days?  Remember, they should all be (more or less) identical, but my
previous paragraph ("...they only sync with cvsup-master every so
often...") still applies.

Also just going to throw this out there as a data point: if you ever
continually have problems with a cvsup mirror, please mail freebsd-hubs
about it.  I know in this thread you weren't sure if the mirror was the
problem or what, but I'm just saying that if you encounter problems
where you think the mirror might be responsible, freebsd-hubs is the
place.  The mirror maintainers do read that list, but sometimes take a
couple days to respond (which is too long if you ask me).

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Re: BETA3 not buildable

2011-10-08 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 10:29:19AM +0100, Chris Rees wrote:
> On 8 October 2011 03:25, Jeremy Chadwick  wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 02:36:25PM -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
> >> Just a quick note the repo was synced about 15 mins before this
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Aryeh Friedman 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I have a local cvs repo and after checking src into a completely fresh
> >> > /usr/src I get:
> >> >
> >> > flosoft# make buildworld
> >> > find: /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h: No such file or directory
> >> > "Makefile", line 217: warning: "find /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h -mtime -0s"
> >> > returned non-zero status
> >> > find: /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h: No such file or directory
> >> > "Makefile", line 217: warning: "find /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h -mtime -0s"
> >> > returned non-zero status
> >
> > Note that "I just synced with the repo 15 minutes ago" does not mean
> > much. ?Those repos are also often "behind", given that they only sync
> > with cvsup-master every so often. ?What's "every so often?" ?It varies
> > from public cvsup server to public cvsup server, and there's no way to
> > know. ?Great isn't it?
> >
> > If you are syncing directly off of cvsup-master -- shame on you. ?You
> > aren't supposed to do this, and I believe the Handbook or freebsd-hubs
> > even has a policy about it being considered inappropriate.
> >
> 
> Not much chance of that;
> 
> [crees@zeus]~% grep host supfile && csup supfile
> *default host=cvsup-master.freebsd.org
> Connected to 69.147.83.50
> Authentication required by the server and not supported by client
> [crees@zeus]~%

Oh okay, good, I was wondering about that.  I wonder if half (and only
half) of my brain was thinking of cvsup.freebsd.org (which is not the
same thing as cvsup-master).

Anyway, chances are my first paragraph is the more likely explanation.

By the way, the error the OP received in question is probably related to
this bit in src/Makefile.  Note that I'm referring to RELENG_8 below,
and my /usr/src/Makefile hasn't changed since 2011/04/16.  Note that my
line numbers *do not* match up with the OPs.

175 STARTTIME!= LC_ALL=C date
176 CHECK_TIME!= find ${.CURDIR}/sys/sys/param.h -mtime -0s
177 .if !empty(CHECK_TIME)
178 .error check your date/time: ${STARTTIME}
179 .endif
180

The OP is using HEAD (or maybe RELENG_9? [1]), but I would hope the same
check above would be in that tags' src/Makefile.  Now I'm rambling
again.

[1]: I assume that's been tagged; I wouldn't know, as it'll be a long
time before I dare try 9.0, for tons of reasons which I'm not going to
go into here since they're off-topic (simple version: way, way too many
bugs in the installer, and bugs like kern/160860 scare the living crap
out of me to the point where I don't dare touch it).

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Re: BETA3 not buildable

2011-10-08 Thread Aryeh Friedman
The orginal issue resolved it self over night... but note that I waited 2
days for cvsup10.us.freebsd.org to sync in case everything everyone raised
in this thread where the cause

On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Chris Rees  wrote:

> On 8 October 2011 03:25, Jeremy Chadwick  wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 02:36:25PM -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
> >> Just a quick note the repo was synced about 15 mins before this
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Aryeh Friedman <
> aryeh.fried...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >> > I have a local cvs repo and after checking src into a completely fresh
> >> > /usr/src I get:
> >> >
> >> > flosoft# make buildworld
> >> > find: /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h: No such file or directory
> >> > "Makefile", line 217: warning: "find /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h -mtime
> -0s"
> >> > returned non-zero status
> >> > find: /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h: No such file or directory
> >> > "Makefile", line 217: warning: "find /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h -mtime
> -0s"
> >> > returned non-zero status
> >
> > Note that "I just synced with the repo 15 minutes ago" does not mean
> > much.  Those repos are also often "behind", given that they only sync
> > with cvsup-master every so often.  What's "every so often?"  It varies
> > from public cvsup server to public cvsup server, and there's no way to
> > know.  Great isn't it?
> >
> > If you are syncing directly off of cvsup-master -- shame on you.  You
> > aren't supposed to do this, and I believe the Handbook or freebsd-hubs
> > even has a policy about it being considered inappropriate.
> >
>
> Not much chance of that;
>
> [crees@zeus]~% grep host supfile && csup supfile
> *default host=cvsup-master.freebsd.org
> Connected to 69.147.83.50
> Authentication required by the server and not supported by client
> [crees@zeus]~%
>
> Chris
>
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Re: BETA3 not buildable

2011-10-08 Thread Chris Rees
On 8 October 2011 03:25, Jeremy Chadwick  wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 02:36:25PM -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
>> Just a quick note the repo was synced about 15 mins before this
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Aryeh Friedman 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I have a local cvs repo and after checking src into a completely fresh
>> > /usr/src I get:
>> >
>> > flosoft# make buildworld
>> > find: /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h: No such file or directory
>> > "Makefile", line 217: warning: "find /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h -mtime -0s"
>> > returned non-zero status
>> > find: /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h: No such file or directory
>> > "Makefile", line 217: warning: "find /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h -mtime -0s"
>> > returned non-zero status
>
> Note that "I just synced with the repo 15 minutes ago" does not mean
> much.  Those repos are also often "behind", given that they only sync
> with cvsup-master every so often.  What's "every so often?"  It varies
> from public cvsup server to public cvsup server, and there's no way to
> know.  Great isn't it?
>
> If you are syncing directly off of cvsup-master -- shame on you.  You
> aren't supposed to do this, and I believe the Handbook or freebsd-hubs
> even has a policy about it being considered inappropriate.
>

Not much chance of that;

[crees@zeus]~% grep host supfile && csup supfile
*default host=cvsup-master.freebsd.org
Connected to 69.147.83.50
Authentication required by the server and not supported by client
[crees@zeus]~%

Chris
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