Re: Call for testers : ALi/ULi M5261/M5263 ethernet controller

2011-10-19 Thread Marco Steinbach

YongHyeon PYUN wrote on 17.10.2011 02:22:

Hi,

If you have ALi/ULi M5261/M5263 ethernet controller please try the
patch at the following URL and let me know how it works.
http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/dc/dc.uli562x.diff

The patch was generated against latest HEAD and it should be
cleanly applied to latest stable/8 and stable/7.

Thanks.



Thank you for working on this.  Although the patch applies cleanly, it 
doesn't seem to work for me.  I'm getting the following message upon boot:


dc0: ULi M5263 FastEthernet port 0xe400-0xe4ff mem 
0xff6fec00-0xff6fecff irq 17 at device 17.0 on pci0

dc0: attaching PHYs failed
device_attach: dc0 attach returned 6

The device doesn't show up in ifconfig.

FreeBSD x2.c0c0.intra 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #2 r226509M: Wed Oct 
19 11:37:33 CEST 2011 
root@x2.c0c0.intra:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386



dc0@pci0:0:17:0:class=0x02 card=0x52631849 chip=0x526310b9 
rev=0x40 hdr=0x00

vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
device = 'ULi PCI Fast Ethernet Controller (Albatron K8ULTRA-U 
Pro)'

class  = network
subclass   = ethernet



It's a lab machine, so I'm completely free to try out anything you might 
suggest.


Here's the complete output of pciconf -lv:

hostb0@pci0:0:0:0:  class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x169510b9 
rev=0x00 hdr=0x00

vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
device = 'ULi M1695 K8 Northbridge with PCIe and hypertransport'
class  = bridge
subclass   = HOST-PCI
pcib1@pci0:0:1:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x chip=0x524b10b9 
rev=0x00 hdr=0x01

vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
device = 'ALi PCIe Bridge'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-PCI
pcib2@pci0:0:2:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x chip=0x524c10b9 
rev=0x00 hdr=0x01

vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
device = 'ALi PCIe Bridge'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-PCI
pcib3@pci0:0:3:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x chip=0x524d10b9 
rev=0x00 hdr=0x01

vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-PCI
hostb1@pci0:0:4:0:  class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x168910b9 
rev=0x00 hdr=0x00

vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
device = 'ULi M1689 K8 Northbridge with AGP and hypertransport'
class  = bridge
subclass   = HOST-PCI
pcib4@pci0:0:5:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x chip=0x524610b9 
rev=0x00 hdr=0x01

vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
device = 'ULi AGP 3.0 Controller'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-PCI
pcib5@pci0:0:6:0:   class=0x060401 card=0x chip=0x524910b9 
rev=0x00 hdr=0x01

vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
device = 'HyperTransport to PCI Bridge (M5249)'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-PCI
isab0@pci0:0:7:0:   class=0x060100 card=0x15631849 chip=0x156310b9 
rev=0x70 hdr=0x00

vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
device = 'ALI M1563 South Bridge with Hypertransport Support'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-ISA
none0@pci0:0:7:1:   class=0x068000 card=0x71011849 chip=0x710110b9 
rev=0x00 hdr=0x00

vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
device = 'ALI M7101 Power Management Controller'
class  = bridge
none1@pci0:0:8:0:   class=0x040100 card=0x08501849 chip=0x545510b9 
rev=0x20 hdr=0x00

vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
device = 'AC'97 Audio Controller (M1563M Southbridge)'
class  = multimedia
subclass   = audio
dc0@pci0:0:17:0:class=0x02 card=0x52631849 chip=0x526310b9 
rev=0x40 hdr=0x00

vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
device = 'ULi PCI Fast Ethernet Controller (Albatron K8ULTRA-U 
Pro)'

class  = network
subclass   = ethernet
atapci2@pci0:0:18:0:class=0x01018a card=0x52291849 chip=0x522910b9 
rev=0xc7 hdr=0x00

vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
device = 'EIDE Controller (M5229 Southbridge)'
class  = mass storage
subclass   = ATA
atapci3@pci0:0:18:1:class=0x01018f card=0x52891849 chip=0x528910b9 
rev=0x10 hdr=0x00

vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
device = 'M5289 SATA/Raid controller (ULI M1567/M1689 )'
class  = mass storage
subclass   = ATA
ohci0@pci0:0:19:0:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x52371849 chip=0x523710b9 
rev=0x03 hdr=0x00

vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
device = 'OpenHCI 1.1 USB to  2.0 (M5273 A1 for windows 98)'
class  = serial bus
subclass   = USB
ohci1@pci0:0:19:1:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x52371849 chip=0x523710b9 
rev=0x03 hdr=0x00

vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
device = 'OpenHCI 1.1 USB to  2.0 (M5273 A1 for windows 98)'
class  = serial bus
subclass   = USB
ohci2@pci0:0:19:2:  

Re: booting 8.2 on Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4

2011-10-19 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 21:17:58 +0200
Václav Zeman v.hais...@sh.cvut.cz wrote:

 I am having problems booting the FreeBSD 8.2 CD image on 
 GA-790XTA-UD4(rev. 1.0). The last thing that I can see is BIOS drive A: 
 is disk0. Is this completely not supported? Can I do anything to 
 install FreeBSD on such box?

Have you done the usual stuff?
- if not running the latest BIOS, try to update
- try to fiddle with relevant settings in BIOS
- Try another release of FreeBSD (older or newer), or a new snapshot
- Google name of board + FreeBSD

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Re: Call for testers : ALi/ULi M5261/M5263 ethernet controller

2011-10-19 Thread YongHyeon PYUN
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 12:09:41PM +0200, Marco Steinbach wrote:
 YongHyeon PYUN wrote on 17.10.2011 02:22:
 Hi,
 
 If you have ALi/ULi M5261/M5263 ethernet controller please try the
 patch at the following URL and let me know how it works.
 http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/dc/dc.uli562x.diff
 
 The patch was generated against latest HEAD and it should be
 cleanly applied to latest stable/8 and stable/7.
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Thank you for working on this.  Although the patch applies cleanly, it 
 doesn't seem to work for me.  I'm getting the following message upon boot:
 
 dc0: ULi M5263 FastEthernet port 0xe400-0xe4ff mem 
 0xff6fec00-0xff6fecff irq 17 at device 17.0 on pci0
 dc0: attaching PHYs failed
 device_attach: dc0 attach returned 6
 
 The device doesn't show up in ifconfig.
 
 FreeBSD x2.c0c0.intra 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #2 r226509M: Wed Oct 
 19 11:37:33 CEST 2011 
 root@x2.c0c0.intra:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
 
 
 dc0@pci0:0:17:0:class=0x02 card=0x52631849 chip=0x526310b9 
 rev=0x40 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
 device = 'ULi PCI Fast Ethernet Controller (Albatron K8ULTRA-U 
 Pro)'
 class  = network
 subclass   = ethernet
 
 
 
 It's a lab machine, so I'm completely free to try out anything you might 
 suggest.
 

Thanks for testing!
I already got a feedback from user and the user also said the patch
does not work. I'm trying to debug the issue as the user is willing
to provide remote access. However it seems it's somewhat hard for
the user to setup remote debugging environments.
BTW, can you setup remote debugging environments like the following
URL?
http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/remote_debugging.txt

I'll let you know if I manage to make it work.
 
 Here's the complete output of pciconf -lv:
 
 hostb0@pci0:0:0:0:  class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x169510b9 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
 device = 'ULi M1695 K8 Northbridge with PCIe and hypertransport'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 pcib1@pci0:0:1:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x chip=0x524b10b9 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01
 vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
 device = 'ALi PCIe Bridge'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-PCI
 pcib2@pci0:0:2:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x chip=0x524c10b9 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01
 vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
 device = 'ALi PCIe Bridge'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-PCI
 pcib3@pci0:0:3:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x chip=0x524d10b9 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01
 vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-PCI
 hostb1@pci0:0:4:0:  class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x168910b9 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
 device = 'ULi M1689 K8 Northbridge with AGP and hypertransport'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 pcib4@pci0:0:5:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x chip=0x524610b9 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01
 vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
 device = 'ULi AGP 3.0 Controller'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-PCI
 pcib5@pci0:0:6:0:   class=0x060401 card=0x chip=0x524910b9 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01
 vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
 device = 'HyperTransport to PCI Bridge (M5249)'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-PCI
 isab0@pci0:0:7:0:   class=0x060100 card=0x15631849 chip=0x156310b9 
 rev=0x70 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
 device = 'ALI M1563 South Bridge with Hypertransport Support'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-ISA
 none0@pci0:0:7:1:   class=0x068000 card=0x71011849 chip=0x710110b9 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
 device = 'ALI M7101 Power Management Controller'
 class  = bridge
 none1@pci0:0:8:0:   class=0x040100 card=0x08501849 chip=0x545510b9 
 rev=0x20 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
 device = 'AC'97 Audio Controller (M1563M Southbridge)'
 class  = multimedia
 subclass   = audio
 dc0@pci0:0:17:0:class=0x02 card=0x52631849 chip=0x526310b9 
 rev=0x40 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
 device = 'ULi PCI Fast Ethernet Controller (Albatron K8ULTRA-U 
 Pro)'
 class  = network
 subclass   = ethernet
 atapci2@pci0:0:18:0:class=0x01018a card=0x52291849 chip=0x522910b9 
 rev=0xc7 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
 device = 'EIDE Controller (M5229 Southbridge)'
 class  = mass storage
 subclass   = ATA
 atapci3@pci0:0:18:1:class=0x01018f card=0x52891849 chip=0x528910b9 
 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
 device = 'M5289 SATA/Raid controller (ULI 

Re: Call for testers : ALi/ULi M5261/M5263 ethernet controller

2011-10-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:43:17AM -0700, YongHyeon PYUN wrote:
 Thanks for testing!
 I already got a feedback from user and the user also said the patch
 does not work. I'm trying to debug the issue as the user is willing
 to provide remote access. However it seems it's somewhat hard for
 the user to setup remote debugging environments.
 BTW, can you setup remote debugging environments like the following
 URL?
 http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/remote_debugging.txt
 
 I'll let you know if I manage to make it work.

YongHyeon and others,

If you guys can't get a good development environment going for
YongHyeon, let me know and I can invest in one of these motherboards and
either send it to YongHyeon (back in South Korea?) or I can set it up
locally and get him serial console access to boot.

Just let me know if all other avenues are exhausted.

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Re: Call for testers : ALi/ULi M5261/M5263 ethernet controller

2011-10-19 Thread YongHyeon PYUN
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:50:10AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:43:17AM -0700, YongHyeon PYUN wrote:
  Thanks for testing!
  I already got a feedback from user and the user also said the patch
  does not work. I'm trying to debug the issue as the user is willing
  to provide remote access. However it seems it's somewhat hard for
  the user to setup remote debugging environments.
  BTW, can you setup remote debugging environments like the following
  URL?
  http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/remote_debugging.txt
  
  I'll let you know if I manage to make it work.
 
 YongHyeon and others,
 
 If you guys can't get a good development environment going for
 YongHyeon, let me know and I can invest in one of these motherboards and
 either send it to YongHyeon (back in South Korea?) or I can set it up

I'm still living in US. :-)

 locally and get him serial console access to boot.
 
 Just let me know if all other avenues are exhausted.
 

Thanks for the offer.
If all remote debugging fails I'll ask you help.

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Re: Call for testers : ALi/ULi M5261/M5263 ethernet controller

2011-10-19 Thread Marco Steinbach

YongHyeon PYUN wrote on 19.10.2011 20:43:

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 12:09:41PM +0200, Marco Steinbach wrote:

YongHyeon PYUN wrote on 17.10.2011 02:22:

Hi,

If you have ALi/ULi M5261/M5263 ethernet controller please try the
patch at the following URL and let me know how it works.
http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/dc/dc.uli562x.diff

The patch was generated against latest HEAD and it should be
cleanly applied to latest stable/8 and stable/7.

Thanks.


Thank you for working on this.  Although the patch applies cleanly, it 
doesn't seem to work for me.  I'm getting the following message upon boot:


dc0: ULi M5263 FastEthernet port 0xe400-0xe4ff mem 
0xff6fec00-0xff6fecff irq 17 at device 17.0 on pci0

dc0: attaching PHYs failed
device_attach: dc0 attach returned 6

The device doesn't show up in ifconfig.

FreeBSD x2.c0c0.intra 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #2 r226509M: Wed Oct 
19 11:37:33 CEST 2011 
root@x2.c0c0.intra:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386



dc0@pci0:0:17:0:class=0x02 card=0x52631849 chip=0x526310b9 
rev=0x40 hdr=0x00

vendor = 'Acer Labs Incorporated (ALi/ULi)'
device = 'ULi PCI Fast Ethernet Controller (Albatron K8ULTRA-U 
Pro)'

class  = network
subclass   = ethernet



It's a lab machine, so I'm completely free to try out anything you might 
suggest.




Thanks for testing!
I already got a feedback from user and the user also said the patch
does not work. I'm trying to debug the issue as the user is willing
to provide remote access. However it seems it's somewhat hard for
the user to setup remote debugging environments.
BTW, can you setup remote debugging environments like the following
URL?
http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/remote_debugging.txt

I'll let you know if I manage to make it work.


The machine is hooked up by serial console, anyway.  I'll set something 
up for you to have remote access, including flipping the power switch on 
the box.


It's an ASRock 939Dual-Sata2 Mainboard -- If the other user runs the 
same, he might not need to go through setting up things, but just check 
on eventual results.


Give me a moment, I'll get back to you off-list in about an hour.

MfG CoCo
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Re: booting 8.2 on Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4

2011-10-19 Thread nickolasbug
 I am having problems booting the FreeBSD 8.2 CD image on
 GA-790XTA-UD4(rev. 1.0). The last thing that I can see is BIOS drive A:
 is disk0. Is this completely not supported? Can I do anything to
 install FreeBSD on such box?

 Have you done the usual stuff?
 - if not running the latest BIOS, try to update
 - try to fiddle with relevant settings in BIOS
 - Try another release of FreeBSD (older or newer), or a new snapshot
 - Google name of board + FreeBSD

You've fogot about BIOS SATA/IDE setting. Try to play with it.

---
wbr,
Nickolas
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Re: booting 8.2 on Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4

2011-10-19 Thread Václav Zeman
On 10/19/2011 06:26 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
 On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 21:17:58 +0200
 Václav Zeman v.hais...@sh.cvut.cz wrote:

 I am having problems booting the FreeBSD 8.2 CD image on 
 GA-790XTA-UD4(rev. 1.0). The last thing that I can see is BIOS drive A: 
 is disk0. Is this completely not supported? Can I do anything to 
 install FreeBSD on such box?
 Have you done the usual stuff?
 - if not running the latest BIOS, try to update
I did update from revision F2 to F3 of the BIOS.

 - try to fiddle with relevant settings in BIOS
I did try to turn the HDD setting to IDE from SATA

 - Try another release of FreeBSD (older or newer), or a new snapshot
The FreeBSD 9 BETA3 DVD image does not boot either.

 - Google name of board + FreeBSD
I have not found anything using that search.


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Re: booting 8.2 on Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4

2011-10-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:11:35PM +0200, V?clav Zeman wrote:
 On 10/19/2011 06:26 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
  On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 21:17:58 +0200
  V?clav Zeman v.hais...@sh.cvut.cz wrote:
 
  I am having problems booting the FreeBSD 8.2 CD image on 
  GA-790XTA-UD4(rev. 1.0). The last thing that I can see is BIOS drive A: 
  is disk0. Is this completely not supported? Can I do anything to 
  install FreeBSD on such box?
  Have you done the usual stuff?
  - if not running the latest BIOS, try to update
 I did update from revision F2 to F3 of the BIOS.
 
  - try to fiddle with relevant settings in BIOS
 I did try to turn the HDD setting to IDE from SATA
 
  - Try another release of FreeBSD (older or newer), or a new snapshot
 The FreeBSD 9 BETA3 DVD image does not boot either.
 
  - Google name of board + FreeBSD
 I have not found anything using that search.

Here we go again, with manufacturers shoving 6 bazillion ICs on a
motherboard, doing nothing but making a mess...

The GA-790XTA-UD4 has a three (3) SATA controllers on it, and one
IDE/PATA controller on it.

* AMD SB750 southbridge
  - 1x IDE/PATA
  - 6x SATA ports (labelled SATA2_0 through SATA2_5 on the board;
these are the light blue SATA ports)
* Marvell 88SE9128
  - 2x SATA600 ports (labelled GSATA3_6 and GSATA_7 on the board;
these are the white SATA ports)
* JMicron JMB362
  - 2x eSATA (SATA300) ports (on backplane)

So which SATA ports is your hard disk hooked up to?

If the drive is hooked to the Marvell or the JMicron, you probably won't
get anywhere.  Hook it to the light blue ports, preferably port SATA2_0.

Next comes the insanity that is the system BIOS for this board, given
the number of SATA controllers on it.

* OnChip IDE Channel -- Enabled, assuming you plan on using
  the IDE/PATA port, otherwise you can safely disable it
* OnChip SATA Controller -- Enabled
* OnChip SATA Type -- AHCI
  - The above 3 are controlled by the AMD SB750 southbridge
* Onboard ESATA Controller - Disabled
  - This is the JMicron JMB362 chip
* Onboard SATA3 Controller -- Disabled
  - This is the Marvell 88SE9128 chip

Also, any reference you see to something called GRAID or
GigabyteRAID is 100% in reference to the Marvell chip -- on this board
anyway.  Don't mess with it.

Next question: what *exact model* of hard disk are you using?  Please be
specific.

Next question: do you actually have a floppy drive hooked up to this
system?  If not, please disable it in the system BIOS and see if you get
further.  If so, please make sure the floppy cable is connected properly
(when its backwards, usually the drive LED will be lit at all times, and
any disk you have in there will be completely destroyed).  BTW, the
floppy is controlled by the iTE IT8720 chip on the board and nothing
else.

You should also disable the Onboard 1394 Function (used for Firewire),
as this has caused some problems in the past for FreeBSD users (myself
included).  Maybe it has since been fixed, but it's one thing to disable
as a precaution, though it shouldn't affect things during boot-up.

Finally, you can try disabling the Onboard USB 3.0 Controller to see
if somehow that's causing problems (especially if you have a USB-based
storage drive (Flash, etc.) hooked up at the time -- that might appear
as a bootable device to the bootloader).

All of this info, BTW, is in the user manual.

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Re: booting 8.2 on Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4

2011-10-19 Thread perryh
nickolas...@gmail.com wrote:

  - try to fiddle with relevant settings in BIOS
...
 You've fogot about BIOS SATA/IDE setting. Try to play with it.

That's arguably one of the relevant settings in BIOS :)
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Re: (Possible fix for sbp(4)) Re: Comment out sbp driver from GENERIC

2011-10-19 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Alberto Villa wrote this message on Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 14:12 +0200:
 On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Wojciech A. Koszek
 wkos...@freebsd.czest.pl wrote:
  Commenting a driver out is almost always a bad idea and should
  be done as a last step.
 
 Well, few weeks prior to -RELEASE can be considered a last step. :)

Considering that no discussion has happened on the -firewire list, nor
does there appear to be any active PRs tracking this, I think it's a bad
idea to remove the sbp.  If someone spends the time to properly file a
bug report, then we can tie the reinclusion of sbp to fixing the PR.
If we disabled everything that hangs on one or two systems, we wouldn't
have many devices in the kernel.

The closest bug I could find that relate to this issue is kern/97208.
The last activity on this bug was over two years ago, so clearly not
many people are reporting the issue to the propler places (-firewire
or PR database).

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 All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not.
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