Re: Many core dumps in pthread_getspecific.

2015-07-27 Thread Andre Meiser
Kudos to Konstantin Belousov!

I'm not sure if this list was interested into all this error tracking.  So we 
made the error tracking with private mails.

Anyway, it was a BIOS setting named limit CPUID maximum and I had to disable 
it (BIOS help said disabled for Windows XP).

Thank you Konstantin Belousov, you have an amazing skill in this low level 
debugging stuff. :)

Sincerely yours Andre.
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Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report - Second Quarter 2015

2015-07-27 Thread Willem Jan Withagen
On 27/07/2015 16:25, Glen Barber wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 04:14:54PM +0200, Willem Jan Withagen wrote:
 On 27/07/2015 04:39, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
   * Separated email services (and single-point-of-failure cases) from
 the machine that has been handling this task for over 18 years, to
 new, single-purpose service installations

 Hi,

 This sort of sounds like the system that a former company (IAE) donated
 to Jordan when he was here in Arnhem at a FreeBSD meeting organized by
 Wilco Bulte. I think it was called freefall??
 There used to be pictures of the meeting online, but I can't seem to
 find them.

 Would be nice to know if that is the case, because then I'm really
 impressed with the life time of that system...
 Does anybody know if this is actually the case?

 
 Based on what I've recently learned of the machine's history, it was
 originally freefall, then became known as 'hub'.

You have any idea what is/was actual the hardware that was in the box?

If I remember correctly we gave Jordan a check for like 5000 guilders.
Which I guess would be 2500 us$ at that time. Which was not an enormous
amount of money, so even more impressive that the system lasted 18 years :)

--WjW

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Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report - Second Quarter 2015

2015-07-27 Thread Willem Jan Withagen
On 27/07/2015 16:42, Glen Barber wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 04:32:34PM +0200, Willem Jan Withagen wrote:
 On 27/07/2015 16:25, Glen Barber wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 04:14:54PM +0200, Willem Jan Withagen wrote:
 On 27/07/2015 04:39, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
   * Separated email services (and single-point-of-failure cases) from
 the machine that has been handling this task for over 18 years, to
 new, single-purpose service installations

 Hi,

 This sort of sounds like the system that a former company (IAE) donated
 to Jordan when he was here in Arnhem at a FreeBSD meeting organized by
 Wilco Bulte. I think it was called freefall??
 There used to be pictures of the meeting online, but I can't seem to
 find them.

 Would be nice to know if that is the case, because then I'm really
 impressed with the life time of that system...
 Does anybody know if this is actually the case?


 Based on what I've recently learned of the machine's history, it was
 originally freefall, then became known as 'hub'.

 You have any idea what is/was actual the hardware that was in the box?

 If I remember correctly we gave Jordan a check for like 5000 guilders.
 Which I guess would be 2500 us$ at that time. Which was not an enormous
 amount of money, so even more impressive that the system lasted 18 years :)

 
 The physical hardware did not last this long, and I do not recall the
 physical specs of the recently deprecated hardware, but as far as
 handling this task for 18 years, that could have been clarified a bit
 more (my fault).  The system moved chassis several times, but was never
 reinstalled (as far as we can tell) - it was originally a FreeBSD
 2-STABLE install, and was upgraded constantly throughout its lifetime,
 and finally ran 11-CURRENT before being decommissioned.

Right, that makes more sense.

And I'm sort of more relaxed that there is not that much commodity
hardware capable to survive that long running 24*7 ...

The oldest servers here in the basement are like 10 years old, and on
the brink of being thrashed...

--WjW

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Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report - Second Quarter 2015

2015-07-27 Thread Glen Barber
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 04:14:54PM +0200, Willem Jan Withagen wrote:
 On 27/07/2015 04:39, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
* Separated email services (and single-point-of-failure cases) from
  the machine that has been handling this task for over 18 years, to
  new, single-purpose service installations
 
 Hi,
 
 This sort of sounds like the system that a former company (IAE) donated
 to Jordan when he was here in Arnhem at a FreeBSD meeting organized by
 Wilco Bulte. I think it was called freefall??
 There used to be pictures of the meeting online, but I can't seem to
 find them.
 
 Would be nice to know if that is the case, because then I'm really
 impressed with the life time of that system...
 Does anybody know if this is actually the case?
 

Based on what I've recently learned of the machine's history, it was
originally freefall, then became known as 'hub'.

Glen



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Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report - Second Quarter 2015

2015-07-27 Thread Glen Barber
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 04:32:34PM +0200, Willem Jan Withagen wrote:
 On 27/07/2015 16:25, Glen Barber wrote:
  On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 04:14:54PM +0200, Willem Jan Withagen wrote:
  On 27/07/2015 04:39, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
* Separated email services (and single-point-of-failure cases) from
  the machine that has been handling this task for over 18 years, to
  new, single-purpose service installations
 
  Hi,
 
  This sort of sounds like the system that a former company (IAE) donated
  to Jordan when he was here in Arnhem at a FreeBSD meeting organized by
  Wilco Bulte. I think it was called freefall??
  There used to be pictures of the meeting online, but I can't seem to
  find them.
 
  Would be nice to know if that is the case, because then I'm really
  impressed with the life time of that system...
  Does anybody know if this is actually the case?
 
  
  Based on what I've recently learned of the machine's history, it was
  originally freefall, then became known as 'hub'.
 
 You have any idea what is/was actual the hardware that was in the box?
 
 If I remember correctly we gave Jordan a check for like 5000 guilders.
 Which I guess would be 2500 us$ at that time. Which was not an enormous
 amount of money, so even more impressive that the system lasted 18 years :)
 

The physical hardware did not last this long, and I do not recall the
physical specs of the recently deprecated hardware, but as far as
handling this task for 18 years, that could have been clarified a bit
more (my fault).  The system moved chassis several times, but was never
reinstalled (as far as we can tell) - it was originally a FreeBSD
2-STABLE install, and was upgraded constantly throughout its lifetime,
and finally ran 11-CURRENT before being decommissioned.

Glen



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Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report - Second Quarter 2015

2015-07-27 Thread Willem Jan Withagen
On 27/07/2015 04:39, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
   * Separated email services (and single-point-of-failure cases) from
 the machine that has been handling this task for over 18 years, to
 new, single-purpose service installations

Hi,

This sort of sounds like the system that a former company (IAE) donated
to Jordan when he was here in Arnhem at a FreeBSD meeting organized by
Wilco Bulte. I think it was called freefall??
There used to be pictures of the meeting online, but I can't seem to
find them.

Would be nice to know if that is the case, because then I'm really
impressed with the life time of that system...
Does anybody know if this is actually the case?

--WjW



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Re: MFC r282973 (disable libgomp build) and r283060 (disable libgcov build)?

2015-07-27 Thread Matthieu Volat
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 21:40:32 +
Brooks Davis bro...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 02:15:28PM -0700, Don Lewis wrote:
  On 24 Jul, Matthieu Volat wrote:
   I'm not fond of lang/gcc as openmp provider: if a port use c++, it
   will cause linkage headaches with libc++ (I never was able to have
   graphics/darktable working, for example).
  
  You might want to try out lang/clang-devel with devel/libiomp5-devel.
  See this thread on freebsd-ports@
  http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?55AE0474.5050207.
 
 Just a heads up in case you try this next week, devel/libiomp5-devel is
 about to be deleted and the openmp library (as well as clang-devel) will
 be installed by the llvm-devel port.  The clang-devel port will become a
 metaport to aid people in finding clang while we wait for multiple
 packages-per-port support.
 
 -- Brooks

Thanks, and nicely done, I just tested it this morning, this may come in handy!

-- 
Matthieu Volat ma...@alkumuna.eu


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10.2-RC1/STABLE VIMAGE memory leak progress?

2015-07-27 Thread Paul Mather
I'm running 10-STABLE (which currently identifies itself as 10.2-PRERELEASE) 
and lately I've started experimenting with using iocage for Jail management.  
(I really like it so far.)  In particular, I've been trying out iocage's 
support for VNET networking that relies on VIMAGE and uses bridge and epair for 
the network.

I find that when I stop a VNET Jail using iocage that I get something akin to 
the following in my console logs:

=
Jul 27 10:59:47 chumby kernel: vnet0:1: link state changed to DOWN
Jul 27 10:59:47 chumby kernel: vnet0: link state changed to DOWN
Jul 27 10:59:47 chumby kernel: re0: link state changed to DOWN
Jul 27 10:59:47 chumby kernel: bridge0: link state changed to DOWN
Jul 27 10:59:47 chumby kernel: vnet1:1: link state changed to DOWN
Jul 27 10:59:47 chumby kernel: vnet1: link state changed to DOWN
Jul 27 10:59:47 chumby kernel: bridge1: link state changed to DOWN
Jul 27 10:59:47 chumby kernel: ifa_del_loopback_route: deletion failed: 48
Jul 27 10:59:47 chumby kernel: Freed UMA keg (udp_inpcb) was not empty (120 
items).  Lost 12 pages of memory.
Jul 27 10:59:47 chumby kernel: Freed UMA keg (udpcb) was not empty (1169 
items).  Lost 7 pages of memory.
Jul 27 10:59:47 chumby kernel: hhook_vnet_uninit: hhook_head type=1, id=1 
cleanup required
Jul 27 10:59:47 chumby kernel: hhook_vnet_uninit: hhook_head type=1, id=0 
cleanup required
=

I found a PR (kern/164763) dating back to 2012-02-04 describing the problem.  
The last update on that PR was on 2014-10-17, which made reference to some 
unmerged fixes that would be good to merge into HEAD.

Does anyone know whether this was done?

One of the entries in that PR states, Our current rule of thumb is 'if you 
need to shutdown one vimage jail then you need to reboot the host.'  It then 
goes on to observe, Of course this is far from optimal.

Is it safe to say, then, that dynamic VNET Jails are not recommended still 
under FreeBSD?

Judging by that PR, this is not likely to be fixed for 10.2-RELEASE?

Cheers,

Paul.


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Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report - Second Quarter 2015

2015-07-27 Thread Julian Elischer

On 7/27/15 10:32 PM, Willem Jan Withagen wrote:

On 27/07/2015 16:25, Glen Barber wrote:

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 04:14:54PM +0200, Willem Jan Withagen wrote:

On 27/07/2015 04:39, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:

   * Separated email services (and single-point-of-failure cases) from
 the machine that has been handling this task for over 18 years, to
 new, single-purpose service installations

Hi,

This sort of sounds like the system that a former company (IAE) donated
to Jordan when he was here in Arnhem at a FreeBSD meeting organized by
Wilco Bulte. I think it was called freefall??
There used to be pictures of the meeting online, but I can't seem to
find them.

Would be nice to know if that is the case, because then I'm really
impressed with the life time of that system...
Does anybody know if this is actually the case?


Based on what I've recently learned of the machine's history, it was
originally freefall, then became known as 'hub'.

You have any idea what is/was actual the hardware that was in the box?

If I remember correctly we gave Jordan a check for like 5000 guilders.
Which I guess would be 2500 us$ at that time. Which was not an enormous
amount of money, so even more impressive that the system lasted 18 years :)


I think it was a bit like my grandfather's axe..

A really great axe.  we replaced the handle 3 times, the head four times
and put in a couple of new wedges, but it's a great axe that one!


--WjW

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Re: Many core dumps in pthread_getspecific.

2015-07-27 Thread Adrian Chadd
hi!

What was that option actually doing? How'd it break things?



-adrian


On 27 July 2015 at 05:02, Andre Meiser orta...@web.de wrote:
 Kudos to Konstantin Belousov!

 I'm not sure if this list was interested into all this error tracking.  So we 
 made the error tracking with private mails.

 Anyway, it was a BIOS setting named limit CPUID maximum and I had to 
 disable it (BIOS help said disabled for Windows XP).

 Thank you Konstantin Belousov, you have an amazing skill in this low level 
 debugging stuff. :)

 Sincerely yours Andre.
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