Re: zpool asize problem on 11.0

2017-01-12 Thread Steven Hartland

On 12/01/2017 22:57, Stefan Bethke wrote:

Am 12.01.2017 um 23:29 schrieb Stefan Bethke :

I’ve just created two pools on a freshly partitioned disk, using 11.0 amd64, 
and the shift appears to be 9:

# zpool status -v host
  pool: host
state: ONLINE
status: One or more devices are configured to use a non-native block size.
Expect reduced performance.
action: Replace affected devices with devices that support the
configured block size, or migrate data to a properly configured
pool.
  scan: none requested
config:

NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM
host ONLINE   0 0 0
  gpt/host0  ONLINE   0 0 0  block size: 512B configured, 
4096B native

errors: No known data errors

# zdb host | grep ashift
ashift: 9
ashift: 9

But:
# sysctl vfs.zfs.min_auto_ashift
vfs.zfs.min_auto_ashift: 12

Of course, I’ve noticed this only after restoring all the backups, and getting 
ready to put the box back into production.

Is this expected behaviour?  I guess there’s no simple fix, and I have to start 
over from scratch?

I had falsely assumed that vfs.zfs.min_auto_ashift would be 12 in all 
circumstances.  It appears when running FreeBSD 11.0p2 in VirtualBox, it can be 
9.  And my target disk was attached to the host and mapped into the VM as a 
„native disk image“, but the 4k native sector size apparently got lost in that 
abstraction.

The output above is with the disk installed in the target system with a native 
AHCI connection, and the system booted from that disk.

I’ve certainly learned to double check the ashift property on creating pools.

The default value for vfs.zfs.min_auto_ashift is 9, so unless you 
specifically set it to 12 you will get the behaviour you described.


Regards
Steve
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Re: zpool asize problem on 11.0

2017-01-12 Thread Stefan Bethke

> Am 12.01.2017 um 23:29 schrieb Stefan Bethke :
> 
> I’ve just created two pools on a freshly partitioned disk, using 11.0 amd64, 
> and the shift appears to be 9:
> 
> # zpool status -v host
>  pool: host
> state: ONLINE
> status: One or more devices are configured to use a non-native block size.
>   Expect reduced performance.
> action: Replace affected devices with devices that support the
>   configured block size, or migrate data to a properly configured
>   pool.
>  scan: none requested
> config:
> 
>   NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM
>   host ONLINE   0 0 0
> gpt/host0  ONLINE   0 0 0  block size: 512B configured, 
> 4096B native
> 
> errors: No known data errors
> 
> # zdb host | grep ashift
>ashift: 9
>ashift: 9
> 
> But:
> # sysctl vfs.zfs.min_auto_ashift
> vfs.zfs.min_auto_ashift: 12
> 
> Of course, I’ve noticed this only after restoring all the backups, and 
> getting ready to put the box back into production.
> 
> Is this expected behaviour?  I guess there’s no simple fix, and I have to 
> start over from scratch?

I had falsely assumed that vfs.zfs.min_auto_ashift would be 12 in all 
circumstances.  It appears when running FreeBSD 11.0p2 in VirtualBox, it can be 
9.  And my target disk was attached to the host and mapped into the VM as a 
„native disk image“, but the 4k native sector size apparently got lost in that 
abstraction.

The output above is with the disk installed in the target system with a native 
AHCI connection, and the system booted from that disk.

I’ve certainly learned to double check the ashift property on creating pools.


Stefan

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zpool asize problem on 11.0

2017-01-12 Thread Stefan Bethke
I’ve just created two pools on a freshly partitioned disk, using 11.0 amd64, 
and the shift appears to be 9:

# zpool status -v host
  pool: host
 state: ONLINE
status: One or more devices are configured to use a non-native block size.
Expect reduced performance.
action: Replace affected devices with devices that support the
configured block size, or migrate data to a properly configured
pool.
  scan: none requested
config:

NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM
host ONLINE   0 0 0
  gpt/host0  ONLINE   0 0 0  block size: 512B configured, 
4096B native

errors: No known data errors

# zdb host | grep ashift
ashift: 9
ashift: 9

But:
# sysctl vfs.zfs.min_auto_ashift
vfs.zfs.min_auto_ashift: 12

Of course, I’ve noticed this only after restoring all the backups, and getting 
ready to put the box back into production.

Is this expected behaviour?  I guess there’s no simple fix, and I have to start 
over from scratch?


Stefan

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Re: Can't boot on ZFS -- /boot/zfsloader not found

2017-01-12 Thread Steven Hartland

On 12/01/2017 21:12, Jeremie Le Hen wrote:

Hey Steven,

(Please cc: me on reply)

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:32 AM, Steven Hartlan

The reason I'd recommend 512k for boot is to provide room for expansion
moving forward, as repartitioning to upgrade is a scary / hard thing to do.
Remember it wasn't long ago when it was well under 64k and that's what was
recommend, its not like with disk sizes these days you'll miss the extra
384k ;-)

Yeah, that's wise you're right.


Boot to a live cd, I'd recommend mfsbsd, and make sure the boot loader was
written to ALL boot disks correctly e.g.
if you have a mirrored pool with ada0 and ada1:
gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i 1 ada0
gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i 1 ada0

If this doesn't help the output from gpart show, uname -a and zpool status
would also be helpful.

This is all assuming standard BIOS mode and not UEFI which is done
differently.

I just use the installation media on an USB key and then drop to the
shell.  This is a full FreeBSD running, so that's fine.

% # gpart show ada0
% =>   40  312581728  ada0  GPT  (149G)
% 40   1024 1  freebsd-boot  (512K)
%   10648387840 2  freebsd-swap  (4.0G)
%8388904  304192864 3  freebsd-zfs  (145G)
%
% # uname -a
% FreeBSD  11.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p1 #0 r306420: Thu Sep
29 01:43:23 UTC 2016 % %
r...@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
%
% # zpool status
%  pool: zroot
% state: ONLINE
%  scan: none requested
% config:
%
%NAME  STATE READ
WRITE CKSUM
%zroot ONLINE   0
0 0
%  gptid/1c387d3b-d892-11e6-944b-f44d30620eeb  ONLINE   0
0 0
%
% errors: No known data errors

Here are the steps to write the bootloader:

% # gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p  /boot/gptzfsboot -i 1 ada0
% partcode written to ada0p1
% bootcode written to ada0
% # zpool get bootfs zroot
% NAME   PROPERTY  VALUE   SOURCE
% zroot  bootfszroot   local

Two things spring to mind

Idea 1:
Is your root fs actually your direct pool or is it actually /root off 
your pool.

If so you want to run:
zpool set bootfs=zroot/root zroot

Idea 2:
You mentioned in your original post and you used zfs send / recv to 
restore the pool, so I wonder if your cache file is out of date.


Try the following:
|zpool export zroot
zpool import -R /mnt -o cachefile=/boot/zfs/zpool.cache zroot
cp /boot/zfs/zpool.cache /mnt/boot/zfs/zpool.cache
zpool set bootfs=zroot/root zroot

Regards
Steve
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Re: Can't boot on ZFS -- /boot/zfsloader not found

2017-01-12 Thread Jeremie Le Hen
Hey Steven,

(Please cc: me on reply)

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:32 AM, Steven Hartlan
> The reason I'd recommend 512k for boot is to provide room for expansion
> moving forward, as repartitioning to upgrade is a scary / hard thing to do.
> Remember it wasn't long ago when it was well under 64k and that's what was
> recommend, its not like with disk sizes these days you'll miss the extra
> 384k ;-)

Yeah, that's wise you're right.

> Boot to a live cd, I'd recommend mfsbsd, and make sure the boot loader was
> written to ALL boot disks correctly e.g.
> if you have a mirrored pool with ada0 and ada1:
> gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i 1 ada0
> gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i 1 ada0
>
> If this doesn't help the output from gpart show, uname -a and zpool status
> would also be helpful.
>
> This is all assuming standard BIOS mode and not UEFI which is done
> differently.

I just use the installation media on an USB key and then drop to the
shell.  This is a full FreeBSD running, so that's fine.

% # gpart show ada0
% =>   40  312581728  ada0  GPT  (149G)
% 40   1024 1  freebsd-boot  (512K)
%   10648387840 2  freebsd-swap  (4.0G)
%8388904  304192864 3  freebsd-zfs  (145G)
%
% # uname -a
% FreeBSD  11.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p1 #0 r306420: Thu Sep
29 01:43:23 UTC 2016 % %
r...@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
%
% # zpool status
%  pool: zroot
% state: ONLINE
%  scan: none requested
% config:
%
%NAME  STATE READ
WRITE CKSUM
%zroot ONLINE   0
   0 0
%  gptid/1c387d3b-d892-11e6-944b-f44d30620eeb  ONLINE   0
   0 0
%
% errors: No known data errors

Here are the steps to write the bootloader:

% # gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p  /boot/gptzfsboot -i 1 ada0
% partcode written to ada0p1
% bootcode written to ada0
% # zpool get bootfs zroot
% NAME   PROPERTY  VALUE   SOURCE
% zroot  bootfszroot   local


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Re: NFS and amd on older FreeBSD

2017-01-12 Thread Holger Kipp
Dear Karl,

> On 12 Jan 2017, at 20:29, Karl Young  wrote:
> 
> Daniel Braniss(da...@cs.huji.ac.il)@2017.01.12 10:25:03 +0200:
>> 
>>> On 12 Jan 2017, at 9:49 AM, Daniel Braniss  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 On 12 Jan 2017, at 1:47 AM, Karl Young  wrote:
 
 I inherited a lab that has a few hundred hosts running FreeBSD 7.2.
 These hosts run test scripts that access files that are stored on
 FreeBSD 6.3 host.  The 6.3 host exports a /data directory with NFS
 
 
 On the 7.2 hosts, I can see the exported directory:
 
 $ showmount -e 6.3-host
 Exports list on 6.3-host
 /data  Everyone
 
 And access it with amd
 
 $ ls -l /net/6-3.host/data
 
 drwxr-xr-x 5 root  wheel  512 Jun  4  2009 git
 drwxr-xr-x  4586 root  wheel83968 Nov  2 04:50 home
 
 I'm trying to retire the 6.3 host and replace it with 9.3 (I know it's
 old, but it's the best I can do for now).
 
 I export the /data directory on the 9.3 system, and I can see it on my
 7.2 hosts.
 
 $ showmount -e  9.3-host
 Exports list on 9.3-host:
 /data   Everyone
 
 But I can't automount it:
 
 $ ls -l /net/9.3-host/data
 ls: /net/9.3-host/data: No such file or directory
 
 If I manually mount the exported directory, it works:
 
 $ sudo mount -t nfs 9.3-host:/data /mnt/data/
 $ mount | grep nfs
 9.3-host:/data on /mnt/data (nfs)
 
 $ ls -l /mnt/data
 total 4
 drwxr-xr-x  9 root  wheel  512 Dec 20 17:41 iaf2
 
 I've spent some time on Google, but haven't found a solution.  I realize
 these are very old versions, but I'm not in a position to upgrade them
 right now.  My last resort will be to use /etc/fstab to do the NFS
 mount, but I'd rather avoid that if I can.
 
 Thanks for any pointers on how to resolve this.
 
 -karl
 
 
>>> 
>>> if you changed the export file on the server after you tried to mount in on 
>>> the client,
>>> and will not realise this, if that’s the case, usually rebooting the client 
>>> helps.
>>> 
>> s/and/amd/ ^%$# hate spell checkers
>> 
> 
> Thanks Danny
> 
> I did try rebooting the client (and server) multiple times to no avail.
> 
> -karl

I'm not sure if this is related, but afaik FreeBSD up to 8.x used oldNFS by 
default. Are you using option -o for nfsd on your 9.3 nfs Server to force using 
old NFS?

It is just a guess of mine, I'm usually not working much with nfs.

Best regards,
Holger
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Re: NFS and amd on older FreeBSD

2017-01-12 Thread Karl Young
Daniel Braniss(da...@cs.huji.ac.il)@2017.01.12 10:25:03 +0200:
> 
> > On 12 Jan 2017, at 9:49 AM, Daniel Braniss  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> On 12 Jan 2017, at 1:47 AM, Karl Young  wrote:
> >> 
> >> I inherited a lab that has a few hundred hosts running FreeBSD 7.2.
> >> These hosts run test scripts that access files that are stored on
> >> FreeBSD 6.3 host.  The 6.3 host exports a /data directory with NFS
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On the 7.2 hosts, I can see the exported directory:
> >> 
> >> $ showmount -e 6.3-host
> >> Exports list on 6.3-host
> >> /data  Everyone
> >> 
> >> And access it with amd
> >> 
> >> $ ls -l /net/6-3.host/data
> >> 
> >> drwxr-xr-x 5 root  wheel  512 Jun  4  2009 git
> >> drwxr-xr-x  4586 root  wheel83968 Nov  2 04:50 home
> >> 
> >> I'm trying to retire the 6.3 host and replace it with 9.3 (I know it's
> >> old, but it's the best I can do for now).
> >> 
> >> I export the /data directory on the 9.3 system, and I can see it on my
> >> 7.2 hosts.
> >> 
> >> $ showmount -e  9.3-host
> >> Exports list on 9.3-host:
> >> /data   Everyone
> >> 
> >> But I can't automount it:
> >> 
> >> $ ls -l /net/9.3-host/data
> >> ls: /net/9.3-host/data: No such file or directory
> >> 
> >> If I manually mount the exported directory, it works:
> >> 
> >> $ sudo mount -t nfs 9.3-host:/data /mnt/data/
> >> $ mount | grep nfs
> >> 9.3-host:/data on /mnt/data (nfs)
> >> 
> >> $ ls -l /mnt/data
> >> total 4
> >> drwxr-xr-x  9 root  wheel  512 Dec 20 17:41 iaf2
> >> 
> >> I've spent some time on Google, but haven't found a solution.  I realize
> >> these are very old versions, but I'm not in a position to upgrade them
> >> right now.  My last resort will be to use /etc/fstab to do the NFS
> >> mount, but I'd rather avoid that if I can.
> >> 
> >> Thanks for any pointers on how to resolve this.
> >> 
> >> -karl
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > if you changed the export file on the server after you tried to mount in on 
> > the client,
> > and will not realise this, if that’s the case, usually rebooting the client 
> > helps.
> > 
> s/and/amd/ ^%$# hate spell checkers
> 

Thanks Danny

I did try rebooting the client (and server) multiple times to no avail.

-karl

> > my .5 cents
> > 
> > danny
> > 
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Re: NFS and amd on older FreeBSD

2017-01-12 Thread Karl Young
Thanks Greg

One correction.  The new server is FreeBSD 9.2, not 9.3.  Replies below

Greg Byshenk(free...@byshenk.net)@2017.01.12 08:58:16 +0100:
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 03:47:37PM -0800, Karl Young wrote:
> > I inherited a lab that has a few hundred hosts running FreeBSD 7.2.
> > These hosts run test scripts that access files that are stored on
> > FreeBSD 6.3 host.  The 6.3 host exports a /data directory with NFS
> > 
> > [...]
> >
> > $ showmount -e  9.3-host
> > Exports list on 9.3-host:
> > /data   Everyone
> > 
> > But I can't automount it:
> > 
> > $ ls -l /net/9.3-host/data
> > ls: /net/9.3-host/data: No such file or directory
> > 
> > If I manually mount the exported directory, it works:
> > 
> > $ sudo mount -t nfs 9.3-host:/data /mnt/data/
> > $ mount | grep nfs
> > 9.3-host:/data on /mnt/data (nfs)
> > 
> > $ ls -l /mnt/data
> > total 4
> > drwxr-xr-x  9 root  wheel  512 Dec 20 17:41 iaf2
> > 
> > I've spent some time on Google, but haven't found a solution.  I realize
> > these are very old versions, but I'm not in a position to upgrade them
> > right now.  My last resort will be to use /etc/fstab to do the NFS
> > mount, but I'd rather avoid that if I can.
> 
> If you can mount the share manually, there is almost 
> certainly nothing wrong with the server. Based on the
> error ("No such file or directory"), I would recommend
> checking your amd config on the client.
> 

Yes, that makes sense, but I'm using the same client in both cases.  In
rc.conf on client, I have:

nfs_reserved_port_only="YES"
nfs_client_enable="YES"
amd_enable="YES"


And ps shows the amd process started with these flags:

/usr/sbin/amd -p -a /.amd_mnt -l syslog /host /etc/amd.map /net /etc/amd.map

amd.map is the default

$ cat /etc/amd.map 
# $FreeBSD: src/etc/amd.map,v 1.10.8.1 2009/04/15 03:14:26 kensmith Exp
# $
#
/defaults   type:=host;fs:=${autodir}/${rhost}/host;rhost:=${key}
*   opts:=rw,grpid,resvport,vers=3,proto=tcp,nosuid,nodev

This is the same default amd.map as 9.2.

Another data point: I see the same behavior with a 9.2 client:  I can
automount a share from my 6.3 server, but not from the 9.2 server.

Thanks

-karl


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Re: NFS and amd on older FreeBSD

2017-01-12 Thread Daniel Braniss

> On 12 Jan 2017, at 9:49 AM, Daniel Braniss  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 12 Jan 2017, at 1:47 AM, Karl Young  wrote:
>> 
>> I inherited a lab that has a few hundred hosts running FreeBSD 7.2.
>> These hosts run test scripts that access files that are stored on
>> FreeBSD 6.3 host.  The 6.3 host exports a /data directory with NFS
>> 
>> 
>> On the 7.2 hosts, I can see the exported directory:
>> 
>> $ showmount -e 6.3-host
>> Exports list on 6.3-host
>> /data  Everyone
>> 
>> And access it with amd
>> 
>> $ ls -l /net/6-3.host/data
>> 
>> drwxr-xr-x 5 root  wheel  512 Jun  4  2009 git
>> drwxr-xr-x  4586 root  wheel83968 Nov  2 04:50 home
>> 
>> I'm trying to retire the 6.3 host and replace it with 9.3 (I know it's
>> old, but it's the best I can do for now).
>> 
>> I export the /data directory on the 9.3 system, and I can see it on my
>> 7.2 hosts.
>> 
>> $ showmount -e  9.3-host
>> Exports list on 9.3-host:
>> /data   Everyone
>> 
>> But I can't automount it:
>> 
>> $ ls -l /net/9.3-host/data
>> ls: /net/9.3-host/data: No such file or directory
>> 
>> If I manually mount the exported directory, it works:
>> 
>> $ sudo mount -t nfs 9.3-host:/data /mnt/data/
>> $ mount | grep nfs
>> 9.3-host:/data on /mnt/data (nfs)
>> 
>> $ ls -l /mnt/data
>> total 4
>> drwxr-xr-x  9 root  wheel  512 Dec 20 17:41 iaf2
>> 
>> I've spent some time on Google, but haven't found a solution.  I realize
>> these are very old versions, but I'm not in a position to upgrade them
>> right now.  My last resort will be to use /etc/fstab to do the NFS
>> mount, but I'd rather avoid that if I can.
>> 
>> Thanks for any pointers on how to resolve this.
>> 
>> -karl
>> 
>> 
> 
> if you changed the export file on the server after you tried to mount in on 
> the client,
> and will not realise this, if that’s the case, usually rebooting the client 
> helps.
> 
s/and/amd/ ^%$# hate spell checkers

> my .5 cents
> 
>   danny
> 
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Re: NFS and amd on older FreeBSD

2017-01-12 Thread Greg Byshenk
On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 03:47:37PM -0800, Karl Young wrote:
> I inherited a lab that has a few hundred hosts running FreeBSD 7.2.
> These hosts run test scripts that access files that are stored on
> FreeBSD 6.3 host.  The 6.3 host exports a /data directory with NFS
> 
> [...]
>
> $ showmount -e  9.3-host
> Exports list on 9.3-host:
> /data   Everyone
> 
> But I can't automount it:
> 
> $ ls -l /net/9.3-host/data
> ls: /net/9.3-host/data: No such file or directory
> 
> If I manually mount the exported directory, it works:
> 
> $ sudo mount -t nfs 9.3-host:/data /mnt/data/
> $ mount | grep nfs
> 9.3-host:/data on /mnt/data (nfs)
> 
> $ ls -l /mnt/data
> total 4
> drwxr-xr-x  9 root  wheel  512 Dec 20 17:41 iaf2
> 
> I've spent some time on Google, but haven't found a solution.  I realize
> these are very old versions, but I'm not in a position to upgrade them
> right now.  My last resort will be to use /etc/fstab to do the NFS
> mount, but I'd rather avoid that if I can.

If you can mount the share manually, there is almost 
certainly nothing wrong with the server. Based on the
error ("No such file or directory"), I would recommend
checking your amd config on the client.


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