Modules and kldunloads

2002-04-05 Thread j mckitrick


Sorry I'm jumping into this thread so late.  I have done some
experimenting with modules myself.  I helped turn a few devices into
loadable modules, and I use a few on my system.  I use loader.conf to
load sound, and when I do my system backups to ZIP I use kldload to load
the driver.  However, I have problems when unloading these as well.

IIRC, unloading snd will cause a panic, but I never do that anyway.
Unloading the ZIP driver doesn't kill anything, but reloading it makes
the SCSI/CAM system act funny, and it allocates the device with an
incrementally higher node number.  I tried getting the driver to
disconnect from CAM properly, but this seems elusive at best.

I guess I thought I was the only one that put most of my drivers into
modules and load them at boot time, rather than compiling them into the
kernel.  Apparently, I'm not alone.

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change in ed device number?

2001-12-15 Thread j mckitrick


I rebuilt world Nov 17, and the last time before that was early October.

My NIC has been ed0 until Nov 17, and now it is detected as ed1.  Any
idea what causes this?

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Netscape multitasking less smoothly?

2001-11-15 Thread j mckitrick


I'm running NS 4.78 under 4.4-stable, and I'm noticing something I don't
remember seeing before.  When running NS in multiple windows, the app
will lock up if one of the windows is bogged down.  In other words, if
window A has loaded its page, and Window B is waiting for more data,
Window A becomes blank and unresponsive until the deadlock in B is
released.  Maybe it has always been this way, and I am just now
stressing the system to that point with multiple windows, but I do not
recall this happening under 4.76.  Has anyone else had a similar
experience?

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Re: Netscape multitasking less smoothly?

2001-11-15 Thread j mckitrick

On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 01:46:51PM +0200, Sergey Solyanik wrote:
| On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:38:50AM +, j mckitrick wrote:
| 
|  I'm running NS 4.78 under 4.4-stable, and I'm noticing something I don't
| 
| Where did you get it?
| Or it's linux version?

ports, linux-netscape



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Re: Netscape multitasking less smoothly?

2001-11-15 Thread j mckitrick

On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 01:00:41PM +0100, Richard Nyberg wrote:
| I think it's always been like that; at least, I can't remember a time when
| it wasn't. But then again, I've got notoriously bad memory :)
| 
| There are better browsers out there...

I'm trying to find one.  Opera takes up too much space on my laptop
screen and has jagged fonts, mozilla hogs the CPU terribly.  I'm open to
suggestions.  :-)

I *do* however, need encrypton, java, javascript and a few other modern
features.  Other than that, I'll try anything once


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Re: RE: hw.ata.wc hw.ata.tags softupdates short question

2001-09-21 Thread j mckitrick


So, to boil everything down, I have 1 question:

On a workstation LAPTOP (IDE, low load, etc), does it make more sense to use
softupdates, write caching, or both?

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Re: sh MAKEDEV all

2001-09-21 Thread j mckitrick

On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 11:29:19PM -0400, William Wong wrote:
| Hi there,
| 
| After cvsup'n to RELENG_4_4 (from STABLE around July)
| 
| I got this error when doing a 'sh MAKEDEV all'
| 
| [mosquito] /devsh MAKEDEV all
| MAKEDEV: arith: syntax error: à
| î
| 
| bad node: mknod i4bteld1
| 
| Though I don't think it affects anything since I don't use this device, it's
| kinda odd to get this error.
| 
| Mailing list archives reveal that 2 other ppl have reported this problem
| this month:
| 
| http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1047683+1050677+/usr/local/www/d
| b/text/2001/freebsd-stable/20010916.freebsd-stable
| 
| http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=802451+804089+/usr/local/www/db/
| text/2001/freebsd-stable/20010916.freebsd-stable
| 
| Anyone know what's causing this though?

It's a bug in sh, caused by CPUTYPE, that screws up handling of the devices
in MAKEDEV.

| 
| Regards,
| - Will
| 
| 
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Re: BRAVO 4.4 TEAM!

2001-09-21 Thread j mckitrick

On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 02:26:20PM +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
| -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
| 
| Hello j,
| 
| Friday, September 21, 2001, 12:09:09 AM, you wrote:
| 
|  On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 04:29:49PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  wrote: 
|  | BRAVO to the 4.4 Team
|  |
|  | My update from 4.3 to 4.4 (custom kernel too) when absolutely
|  | flawlessly!!!  
| 
|  Binary or source?
| 
| Must be binary if he uses custom kernel...

He said source



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Re: 4.4RC5: Test results (first take)

2001-09-18 Thread j mckitrick

On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 10:19:49PM -0400, Kenneth Mays wrote:
| So far I have found these issues with 4.4R5,
| 
| 1. Issue with traceroute which seems accepted by most users. Left this one 
| alone.
| 2. KDE 2.2 was patched recently. Make it into 4.4R?
| 3. Sendmail 8.12.0 released. Make it into 4.4R?
| 4. Mozilla randomly freezes up. Had to reboot to recover. Seems to be  
| high-graphic, java type sites caRe: dirpref MFC to -stable: patch set to 
| testusing issue.
| 5. Cdcontrol issue with no audio (on a laptop). Same issue as Cdplay. 
| Consider pilot error for now. Will investigate.
| 6. PPC0 not configured by default to 0x378.
| 7. KSCD (KDE's CD Player) crashes with Signal 11 error (SIGSEGV). Config 
| issue with KDE?
| 8. Some PDFs not loading workly properly into PS/PDF viewer. KDE issue.
| 9. A lot of information is changed so documentation needs to be updated in 
| man pages. Information still reflect prior FreeBSD v4.0 or missing updated 
| information. Will submit updates to pages for review.
| 
| Ken
| 4.4RC5
| Most issues outside of this seem to deal with FreeBSD being used in a 
| desktop capacity instead of a server product.

You mean issues other than the ones mentioned here?  Because these all seem
to be workstation related as well.


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Re: freebsd4.4-stable

2001-09-15 Thread j mckitrick

On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 12:34:19PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
| He's probably referring to the fact that the RELENG_4 branch now
| indicates that it is 4.4-STABLE, since the release branch tag has
| already been laid down and the code freeze on src-stable lifted.
| 
| I suspect he simply needs to wait for his cvsup mirror to catch up.
| 
| - Jordan

I *hate* to ask this, but did I miss an announcement?  The RELEASE tag was
laid down today?  I must have missed your usual jovial announcement.  ;-)



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Re: MAKEDEV problem in recent stable

2001-09-13 Thread j mckitrick

On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 12:36:20PM +0100, Jose Marques wrote:
| On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, j mckitrick wrote:
| 
|  I believe this issue was *just* addressed, probably in yesterday's archives.
|  Do a search, or even just browse for MAKEDEV.
| 
| The mail archives at:
| 
|   http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/archive/2001/freebsd-stable/
| 
| only have mail messages up to the 9th.  The search interface only returns
| messages dating from the 6th.  As I said I don't have access to my
| freebsd-stable mailbox atm.  Since the issue was address can you let me
| know what the 'official' fix was please.

I believ the key is *not* to delete the rest of /var/tmp/temproot before
running MAKEDEV.



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Re: MAKEDEV problem in recent stable

2001-09-13 Thread j mckitrick

On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 12:46:16PM +0100, Jose Marques wrote:
| On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, j mckitrick wrote:
| 
|  I believe this issue was *just* addressed, probably in yesterday's archives.
|  Do a search, or even just browse for MAKEDEV.
| 
| After checking the archives (I'd never noticed the this week link
| before) I saw only three messages relating to this problem.  One
| mentioning it, one me to and one suggesting that one should respond no
| to the delete /var/tmp/temproot prompt.  The last suggestion does not fix
| the problem.  The issue was can therefore not be described as having been
| addressed.  I therefore feel that my message, and suggested quick fix, was
| valid contribution to this mailing list.

Okay, whatever.  I was just trying to help.  ;-)



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Re: 4.4 RC4 ISO packages?

2001-09-08 Thread j mckitrick

|   - www/netscape47-{communicator,navigator} are forbidden, so add

What does this mean, they are 'forbidden' ?  Crypto issues?

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Re: Upgrade problems 3.5-S - 4.3-S

2001-09-07 Thread j mckitrick

On Fri, Sep 07, 2001 at 04:16:23AM -0700, Jon Christopherson wrote:
| Hello All,
| 
|   I am attempting to upgrade a box from 3.5-S to the latest 4.x-S
| and have run into a snag upon the initial buildworld. I get this error
| message upon a attempt:

I believe the suggested workaround is to cvsup and rebuild 4.3-release, then
move to stable from there.

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moving to XFree86-4

2001-08-03 Thread j mckitrick


If I have backup up my old /usr/X11R6, is there an easy way to move my apps
to XFree86-4?  Or do I need to 'make reinstal' all of my X ports?

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question on BSD tweaks (daemonnews article)

2001-08-01 Thread j mckitrick


In the article in Daemonnews on tuning a BSD box for high performance, there
were 2 miscellaneous tweaks mentioned.  One was partition layout, and the
other was turning on 'noatime' for most of the partitions.

What partition layout strategies are suggested for servers? For
workstations?

I have noatime turned on for my root partition.  What other partitions can
use this setting for servers?  And for workstations?  Does it have any
downside?

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Re: FreeBSD needs to awake and come out of SERVER only market!

2001-07-25 Thread j mckitrick

On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 02:48:15PM -0700, Lamont Granquist wrote:
| 
| On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Mit Rowe wrote:
|  I wouldn't use FreeBSD for a desktop if my life depended on it.
| 
| I've been using FreeBSD as desktops, both at home and on my work laptop,

I've been running it on my laptop since 3.2.  I started with Linux and
Win95, then dropped Linux for 3.2, then dropped Windows.  No complaints, no
regrets.

| (Of course, I don't make heavy use of office apps -- I tend to use irc,
| mozilla and vi+gcc mostly)

I use Applix Office, ghostview, Licq, Xemacs, Netscrape, and others



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Re: FreeBSD ROCKs! (was Re: FreeBSD needs to awake and come out of SERVER only market!)

2001-07-25 Thread j mckitrick


The convincer for me was Wes Peters' 'Daemon's Advocate' article.  He even
personally responded to some of my questions.  He pointed out that many of
the same factors that make a good server, make a good workstation.  

The article was May 99, BTW.  Anyway, that convinced me to give it a try,
and I've never looked back.  Is it as bleeding edge as Linux?  No, but my
Linux system became unmaintainable and incoherent very quickly.
Interestingly, a problem with unmounting CDroms under Mandrake hosed my
filesystem twice in a row, and that was it... I wanted the vaunted FreeBSD
stability.

That fast, async filesystem wasn't much good when I lost data.  That's
funny.  I could have sworn only servers care about reliability and
stability, not desktops 

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question about wc on for NON-critical workstation (no flamebait)

2001-07-24 Thread j mckitrick


For day to day use (programming, netscape, email, etc) will wc on show any
performance improvement?

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Re: question about wc on for NON-critical workstation (no flamebait)

2001-07-24 Thread j mckitrick

On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 10:12:41AM -0700, John Merryweather Cooper wrote:
| On 2001.07.24 10:09 j mckitrick wrote:
|  
|  For day to day use (programming, netscape, email, etc) will wc on show
|  any
|  performance improvement?
|  
|  jcm
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| Try it . . . the answer is yes . . . and like everything else
| in life (especially entities that are built for speed), it's
| a calculated risk.

I figure I have a battery pack anyway for the laptop, but I wondered if such
a light load would benefit from write-caching anyway, with softupdates
running as well.



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init hangs leaving single user mode

2001-07-07 Thread j mckitrick


I built and installed world and kernel on tuesday (4 days ago).

I am running -stable on a 4010cdt toshiba satellite.

I have 2 PCCards: the Noteworthy 56k modem that comes with the machine, and
a Kingston ethernet card.

I do this:

shutdown now

and then

exit

My modem is on sio1 and my ethernet on ed0.  As multi-user mode is starting,
whichever card is in the system is bumped to the next higher device number,
according to the kernel (bold print) message (sio1-sio2, ed0-ed1).  In
either case, the machine hangs after printing this line.  These messages do
not appear in any log because the machine locks while writing them.

If I removed the cards, start multi-user mode, then re-insert them,
everything works fine.

I will happily provide any other info requested.

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major lockup from pccard

2001-04-14 Thread j mckitrick


Maybe this is just me.  I am running a world cvsupped Mar 31.  I have a
Toshiba 4010CDT with the usual Noteworthy PCcard modem.

The following sequence causes a complete lockup right in the middle of the
message onscreen that the kernel is setting up sio2.

shutdown now
[return]
ctrl-d

it skips disk checks, goes to start the network, and hangs while checking
the sio serial port.

Could someone else check this with another laptop?

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Re: www supfile

2001-04-12 Thread j mckitrick

On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 08:59:30AM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote:
| On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 12:12:27AM +0100, j mckitrick wrote:
|  I've noticed that 'www/en' no longer works as a valid tag for cvsup files.
|  But the 'www/en' directory still exists.  I must have missed something
|  somewhere.  Is there revised documentation somewhere?
| 
| What do you mean by 'tag'?  On a '*default tag=' line?

I guess that was the wrong word.

local:~ cat .admin/www-supfile 
# $Id: www-supfile,v 1.1 2001/02/21 13:06:54 jcm Exp jcm $
#*default host=216.94.113.4
#*default host=cvsup3.freebsd.org
*default host=cvsup5.freebsd.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=.
*default delete use-rel-suffix

*default compress

# This collection retrieves the www/ tree of the FreeBSD repository
www/en/

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Re: BETA induced nervousness

2001-03-19 Thread j mckitrick

On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 03:04:54AM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
| j mckitrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
|  Sounds good to me.  It would cut the s/n ratio.
| 
| I really hope you meant the reverse :)

Ah, of course!  :)


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Re: New KERNCONF option

2001-03-15 Thread j mckitrick

On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 05:33:58PM +0100, Torben Baecker wrote:
|  make buildworld
|  make buildkernel KERNCONF=JUPITER
|  make installkernel KERNCONF=JUPITER
|  ...
|  
|  Is this correct?
|  
|  jm
| 
| Hi,
| 
| make buildworld
| make kernel KERNCONF=JUPITER
| 
| that's all

Cool.  Then you shutdown, install world, run mergemaster, and reboot,
correct?


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Re: Update UPDATING for upgrade path from 3.4 (was Re: Major upgrade)...

2001-03-15 Thread j mckitrick

On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 10:14:15AM -0800, Sean Chittenden wrote:
|   I've done this upgrade a few times and tried going from 3.4 -
| 4.X: not so smooth.  In fact, big sink whole for time, however, 3.4 -
| 3.5-STABLE - 4.X works very nicely.  Having spent a chunk of time

Does anyone know what changed from 3.4-3.5 that makes the 4.x change so
much smoother?  I thought 3.5 was just a few bug fixes for those who wanted
to stay with the 3.x tree until 4.0 settled down a bit more.

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Re: using stable vs clean from CD

2001-03-08 Thread j mckitrick

On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 01:00:37PM -0600, Andrew Hesford wrote:
| Personal assistant? I hired one about six months ago, her name is
| procmail. :)
| 
| Works like a dream for putting -questions and -stable in their proper
| places, as well as dropping the spam.

Yep, I've got her running now.  It helps with organizing, but not sheer
volume.  Sorting out 'must read' from 'must discard'.  Some of these lists
get insanely busy, and the thread subject doesn't always reflect the body.


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Re: using stable vs clean from CD

2001-03-08 Thread j mckitrick

| easier for CD users now that they have decided to create mini-branches

| I'm fairly certain there is a list out there somewhere that only
| contains RELENG_4 commits which would cut things down by quite a bit

Are these both the same?  That sounds like exactly what I need.


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Re: using stable vs clean from CD

2001-03-08 Thread j mckitrick

| I'm fairly certain there is a list out there somewhere that only
| contains RELENG_4 commits which would cut things down by quite a bit
| more then half.

You don't mean freebsd-commit, do you?

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dsp device problems after kernel rebuilds

2000-12-25 Thread j mckitrick

Hi all,

I am running 4.2 stable, and I am having a problem I wonder  if you have
seen.  When I rebuild the kernel, the dsp device quits working and reports
'invalid device' when accessed.  It seems I have to run install world to fix
it.  But this has only worked once.  I try running makedev, but that doesn't
fix it.  Any idea what I am doing wrong?

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Re: /dev/dsp problem

2000-12-24 Thread j mckitrick

On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 01:41:30PM -0800, Kent Stewart wrote:
| 
| 
| j mckitrick wrote:
|  
|  I am running 4.2 stable, and I am having a problem I wonder  if you have
|  seen.  When I rebuild the kernel, the dsp device quits working and reports
|  'invalid device' when accessed.  It seems I have to run install world to fix
|  it.  But this has only worked once.  I try running makedev, but that doesn't
|  fix it.  Any idea what I am doing wrong?
| 
| Did you try doing a ./MAKEDEV snd[01] to upgrade your sound /dev
| link's.

Yes, that was the command I tried twice.  But it didn't work.



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Re: continuing sound problems with 4.2-beta

2000-11-07 Thread j mckitrick


I'm glad I'm not imagining it then.

Has anyone proposed a solution or fix?

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dsp problems

2000-10-30 Thread j mckitrick


Has any progress been made on the /dev/dsp bug that complains about invalid
format when playing .wav files?  If not, I plan to file a PR soon.  The
posted patch did not solve the problem for me.  I can send uname, sndstat,
and truss info if necessary.

I am running 4.1.1 on Toshiba laptop with the Yamaha OPL-SAX3 YMF719 sound
card.

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ECP parallel port hack

2000-05-19 Thread J McKitrick


I am working with someone else on a temporary hack or workaround that will
allow ECP parallel port users to use their ZIP drives.  I can't take any of
the credit for it, but i am helping post the fix.

It appears that either ECP mode is not properly reported to the imm driver,
or ECP mode is not correctly implemented.  Does anyone know if there is ECP
support in the ppbus driver as it stands right now?

jm
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parallel port zip

2000-05-03 Thread J McKitrick

Has any progress been made on the parallel port zip problem?

jm
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Re: Attachments request -OOOOOPS

2000-04-06 Thread J McKitrick

On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 04:21:49PM -0400, David Nixon wrote:
 And while I have already mentioned Microsoft standard!?!?!?  Try Palm Pilot, 
GroupWise (Novell) e-mail server, GroupWise Web e-mail interface and GroupWise client 
(local and remote).  Isn't it amazing what you can get to run on a BSD box.  With 
Novell opening up their NDS it will only get better.  We could be seeing NDS for BSD 
real soon.  There is already E-directory (NDS lite) for Linux.

Does this mean BSD is at the heart of Palpilot?  I've heard this but was
never sure.

jm
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Re: ppp problems under 4.0-S

2000-04-05 Thread J McKitrick

On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 02:58:55PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] J McKitrick writes:
 : I had a strange problem with my pcmcia modem.  When using the pccard entry
 : that is for my card, it doesn't work.  I have to change the IRQ.  No idea
 : why.  
 
 The IRQ you told it to use in the first place was already in use.
 
 : When i started with FreeBSD, i had problems with pcmcia.
 : I asked another toshiba owner for his kernel config, and it worked.
 : I'm lucky i got it, because if i hadn't i wouldn't have known enough to
 : figure out the IRQ problem or how to find the correct one.  I really lucked
 : out.  I wonder why that happened, since the entry in the sample conf file is
 : the exact same model of modem, but the IRQ is wrong, at least for me.
 
 The entries in the pccard.conf shouldn't have hardwired IRQs.  If they
 do, it is a bug.

Well, it's not that it was hardwired, just that the IRQ that was listed
didn't work.  Maybe it's not the IRQ, it's the 'config' setting.  The sample
called for 0x20, but only 0x21 works on my box.


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Re: Stability and versions - was Re: Let 3.x die ASAP?

2000-03-31 Thread J McKitrick

I think one simple solution is to 'hide' the -current distro, or make
it a little less accessible.  That seems like a good first step.  No
one who can't figure it out needs tobe running it anyway, and it
certainly won't hurt the development effort.  Then, of course, keep
whipping 4.x into shape, tack on a decent, if not graphical, interface
and let it sell itself.  Er, raher, give itself away.

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Re: 3.4-RELEASE; panic while paging

2000-03-30 Thread J McKitrick

Just general question about these types of hardware problems.  Do they
occur often under NT or windows as well?  Or does FreeBSD just seem to
push hardware to its limits more?

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