Re: 50% of packets lost only on local interfaces

2005-02-07 Thread Jos M. Fandio
José M. Fandiño wrote:
 
 Chris wrote:
 
  Have tested on 3 boxes.
 
 yes, it's the intended operation and If I don't see it I don't
 believe it but it happens. I ever thought it would be possible.

Finally, I found the culprit:

CFLAGS= \  100% of the transmited traffic is received
COPTFLAGS=  / 

CFLAGS= -pipe \  50% of the transmited traffic is received
COPTFLAGS= -pipe  /

CFLAGS= -O -pipe \  100% of the transmited traffic is received
COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe  /

 The weirdest is that it worked in 5.3-RELEASE and some time later,
 whilst I was tracking -stable, aplications began to fail local
 network conections. Simple tests with ping showed me as the kernel
 receive packets (tcpdump seems to see inbound packets) but ignores
 exacly 50% of them. This makes any sense to someone?
 
 Following the proposed solution for kern/72022 I removed /usr/obj,
 all possible harmful options in make.conf and compiled world and
 a GENERIC kernel again without any luck.
 
  grep '^[^#]' /etc/make.conf
 CFLAGS= -pipe
 COPTFLAGS= -pipe
 NOPROFILE=  true# Avoid compiling profiled libraries
 X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=xorg
 PERL_VER=5.8.5
 PERL_VERSION=5.8.5
 PERL_ARCH=mach
 NOPERL=yo
 NO_PERL=yo
 NO_PERL_WRAPPER=yo
 SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include -DSTARTTLS -DSASL=2 -DMILTER  -DLDAPMAP
 SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS= -L/usr/local/lib
 SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl2 -lssl -lcrypto -lldap -llber
 
 I'm lost here, any help will be welcome.
 
 Regards,
 
  5.3-STABLE compiled Jan 5th
 
  --- 127.0.0.1 ping statistics ---
  61 packets transmitted, 61 packets received, 0% packet loss
  round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.062/0.073/0.146/0.013 ms
 
  5.3-STABLE amd64 build compiled Jan 29th
 
  --- 127.0.0.1 ping statistics ---
  60 packets transmitted, 60 packets received, 0% packet loss
  round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.024/0.030/0.048/0.005 ms
 
  5.3-Release-P5
 
  --- 127.0.0.1 ping statistics ---
  60 packets transmitted, 60 packets received, 0% packet loss
  round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.057/0.089/0.167/0.017 ms
 
  On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:12:52 +0100, José M. Fandiño [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
   Hello,
  
   It sounds weird but tcp/ip traffic directed to _local_ interfaces,
   and only _local_ interfaces, always cause 50% of packets lost. Of
   course there isn't packet filters activated.
  
   I'm running -stable (the last update was this past weekend)
  
   There is another report like this:
   http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/72022
   but the suggested solution doesn't works in my case.
  
   ping to local interfaces get replies for 50% of the packets:
  
ping -c 512 127.0.0.1
   [snip]
   --- 127.0.0.1 ping statistics ---
   512 packets transmitted, 257 packets received, 49% packet loss
   round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.046/0.049/0.077/0.004 ms
  
ping -c 512 10.20.30.2
   [snip]
   --- 10.20.30.2 ping statistics ---
   512 packets transmitted, 254 packets received, 50% packet loss
   round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.017/0.049/0.071/0.004 ms
  
   Also running tcpdump on localhost shows as the kernel stop from
   responding to packets without an apparent motive.
  
tcpdump -n -i lo0
   tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
   listening on lo0, link-type NULL (BSD loopback), capture size 96 bytes
   [snip]
   17:58:15.516451 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo request seq 76
   17:58:15.516476 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo reply seq 76
   17:58:16.517321 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo request seq 77
   17:58:16.517347 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo reply seq 77
   17:58:17.518158 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo request seq 78
   17:58:18.519042 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo request seq 79
   17:58:19.519853 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo request seq 80
   17:58:20.520698 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo request seq 81
   17:58:21.521548 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo request seq 82
   17:58:22.522392 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo request seq 83
  
   more tests, to the lan router:
  
ping -c 500 10.20.30.6
   [snip]
   --- 10.20.30.6 ping statistics ---
   500 packets transmitted, 500 packets received, 0% packet loss
   round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 1.565/2.015/40.189/2.385 ms
  
   from the lan router:
  
   Router#ping
   Protocol [ip]:
   Target IP address: 10.20.30.2
   Repeat count [5]: 500
   Datagram size [100]:
   Timeout in seconds [2]:
   Extended commands [n]:
   Sweep range of sizes [n]:
   Type escape sequence to abort.
   Sending 500, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.20.30.2, timeout is 2 seconds:
   !!
   !!
   !!!.!!
   !!
   !!
   

Re: 50% of packets lost only on local interfaces

2005-02-07 Thread Jos M. Fandio
Kris Kennaway wrote:
 
 On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 11:15:52AM +0100, Jos? M. Fandi?o wrote:
  Jos? M. Fandi?o wrote:
  
   Chris wrote:
   
Have tested on 3 boxes.
  
   yes, it's the intended operation and If I don't see it I don't
   believe it but it happens. I ever thought it would be possible.
 
  Finally, I found the culprit:
 
  CFLAGS= \  100% of the transmited traffic is received
  COPTFLAGS=  /
 
  CFLAGS= -pipe \  50% of the transmited traffic is received
  COPTFLAGS= -pipe  /
 
 That would be exceedingly strange, because the above two options are
 supposed to produce *no differences at all* with the code generation.

 I'd believe that -O and no -O could behave differently, although I
 don't know why you'd want to compile without -O.

because by the time I was compiling the system I was no interested 
in compiler optimizations. Now I prefer a lightly optimized kernel
than a system with 50% of packet lost in local interfaces ;-)

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Re: 50% of packets lost only on local interfaces

2005-02-01 Thread Jos M. Fandio
Chris wrote:
 
 Have tested on 3 boxes.

yes, it's the intended operation and If I don't see it I don't 
believe it but it happens. I ever thought it would be possible.

The weirdest is that it worked in 5.3-RELEASE and some time later, 
whilst I was tracking -stable, aplications began to fail local
network conections. Simple tests with ping showed me as the kernel 
receive packets (tcpdump seems to see inbound packets) but ignores
exacly 50% of them. This makes any sense to someone?

Following the proposed solution for kern/72022 I removed /usr/obj,
all possible harmful options in make.conf and compiled world and 
a GENERIC kernel again without any luck.

 grep '^[^#]' /etc/make.conf
CFLAGS= -pipe
COPTFLAGS= -pipe
NOPROFILE=  true# Avoid compiling profiled libraries
X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=xorg
PERL_VER=5.8.5
PERL_VERSION=5.8.5
PERL_ARCH=mach
NOPERL=yo
NO_PERL=yo
NO_PERL_WRAPPER=yo
SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include -DSTARTTLS -DSASL=2 -DMILTER  -DLDAPMAP
SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS= -L/usr/local/lib
SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl2 -lssl -lcrypto -lldap -llber

I'm lost here, any help will be welcome.

Regards,

 5.3-STABLE compiled Jan 5th
 
 --- 127.0.0.1 ping statistics ---
 61 packets transmitted, 61 packets received, 0% packet loss
 round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.062/0.073/0.146/0.013 ms
 
 5.3-STABLE amd64 build compiled Jan 29th
 
 --- 127.0.0.1 ping statistics ---
 60 packets transmitted, 60 packets received, 0% packet loss
 round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.024/0.030/0.048/0.005 ms
 
 5.3-Release-P5
 
 --- 127.0.0.1 ping statistics ---
 60 packets transmitted, 60 packets received, 0% packet loss
 round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.057/0.089/0.167/0.017 ms
 
 On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:12:52 +0100, José M. Fandiño [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
 
  It sounds weird but tcp/ip traffic directed to _local_ interfaces,
  and only _local_ interfaces, always cause 50% of packets lost. Of
  course there isn't packet filters activated.
 
  I'm running -stable (the last update was this past weekend)
 
  There is another report like this:
  http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/72022
  but the suggested solution doesn't works in my case.
 
  ping to local interfaces get replies for 50% of the packets:
 
   ping -c 512 127.0.0.1
  [snip]
  --- 127.0.0.1 ping statistics ---
  512 packets transmitted, 257 packets received, 49% packet loss
  round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.046/0.049/0.077/0.004 ms
 
   ping -c 512 10.20.30.2
  [snip]
  --- 10.20.30.2 ping statistics ---
  512 packets transmitted, 254 packets received, 50% packet loss
  round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.017/0.049/0.071/0.004 ms
 
  Also running tcpdump on localhost shows as the kernel stop from
  responding to packets without an apparent motive.
 
   tcpdump -n -i lo0
  tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
  listening on lo0, link-type NULL (BSD loopback), capture size 96 bytes
  [snip]
  17:58:15.516451 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo request seq 76
  17:58:15.516476 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo reply seq 76
  17:58:16.517321 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo request seq 77
  17:58:16.517347 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo reply seq 77
  17:58:17.518158 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo request seq 78
  17:58:18.519042 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo request seq 79
  17:58:19.519853 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo request seq 80
  17:58:20.520698 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo request seq 81
  17:58:21.521548 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo request seq 82
  17:58:22.522392 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo request seq 83
 
  more tests, to the lan router:
 
   ping -c 500 10.20.30.6
  [snip]
  --- 10.20.30.6 ping statistics ---
  500 packets transmitted, 500 packets received, 0% packet loss
  round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 1.565/2.015/40.189/2.385 ms
 
  from the lan router:
 
  Router#ping
  Protocol [ip]:
  Target IP address: 10.20.30.2
  Repeat count [5]: 500
  Datagram size [100]:
  Timeout in seconds [2]:
  Extended commands [n]:
  Sweep range of sizes [n]:
  Type escape sequence to abort.
  Sending 500, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.20.30.2, timeout is 2 seconds:
  !!
  !!
  !!!.!!
  !!
  !!
  !.
  !!
  !!
  Success rate is 99 percent (498/500), round-trip min/avg/max = 1/2/12 ms
 
  I don't find any explanation for this, but I'd like to know if there is
  any solution?
 
  Thank you.
 
  I put the whole test (dmesg, make.conf, etc)in this URL so you can see
  all 

50% of packets lost only on local interfaces

2005-01-31 Thread Jos M. Fandio
Hello,

 It sounds weird but tcp/ip traffic directed to _local_ interfaces,
and only _local_ interfaces, always cause 50% of packets lost. Of 
course there isn't packet filters activated.

I'm running -stable (the last update was this past weekend)

There is another report like this:
http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/72022
but the suggested solution doesn't works in my case.

ping to local interfaces get replies for 50% of the packets:

 ping -c 512 127.0.0.1
[snip]
--- 127.0.0.1 ping statistics ---
512 packets transmitted, 257 packets received, 49% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.046/0.049/0.077/0.004 ms

 ping -c 512 10.20.30.2
[snip]
--- 10.20.30.2 ping statistics ---
512 packets transmitted, 254 packets received, 50% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.017/0.049/0.071/0.004 ms

Also running tcpdump on localhost shows as the kernel stop from 
responding to packets without an apparent motive.

 tcpdump -n -i lo0
tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
listening on lo0, link-type NULL (BSD loopback), capture size 96 bytes
[snip]
17:58:15.516451 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo request seq 76
17:58:15.516476 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo reply seq 76
17:58:16.517321 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo request seq 77
17:58:16.517347 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo reply seq 77
17:58:17.518158 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo request seq 78
17:58:18.519042 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo request seq 79
17:58:19.519853 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo request seq 80
17:58:20.520698 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo request seq 81
17:58:21.521548 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo request seq 82
17:58:22.522392 IP 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1: icmp 64: echo request seq 83

more tests, to the lan router:

 ping -c 500 10.20.30.6
[snip]
--- 10.20.30.6 ping statistics ---
500 packets transmitted, 500 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 1.565/2.015/40.189/2.385 ms

from the lan router:

Router#ping
Protocol [ip]: 
Target IP address: 10.20.30.2
Repeat count [5]: 500
Datagram size [100]: 
Timeout in seconds [2]: 
Extended commands [n]: 
Sweep range of sizes [n]: 
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 500, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.20.30.2, timeout is 2 seconds:
!!
!!
!!!.!!
!!
!!
!.
!!
!!
Success rate is 99 percent (498/500), round-trip min/avg/max = 1/2/12 ms


 I don't find any explanation for this, but I'd like to know if there is 
any solution?

Thank you.

I put the whole test (dmesg, make.conf, etc)in this URL so you can see 
all numbers.
http://195.55.55.164/tests/FreeBSD/report.txt

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