Re: [OT] Re: If you think people use FreeBSD for server, you must'vebeen outta school for long long time!
On Sun, 29 Jul 2001, Chris BeHanna wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Gregory Bond wrote: > > > > > >Subject: Re: If you think people use FreeBSD for server, you must've been outta >school for long long time! > > > > All I can say is that it is a pity no-one thought fit to add killfiles to my > > mailer. > > Go to http://www.perl.com and search on "Mail::Audit". :-) > > To Sung Cho: please go out and take an MSF course, buy yourself a > motorcycle, and go enjoy those excellent roads not too far from you > (Blue Ridge Parkway, etc.--esp. VA 16 through Hungry Mother State > Park). I think it will do wonders for your attitude. > > For further attitude adjusting, continue on up to West Virginia and > ride around the New River Gorge Area.. > > To bring this back to FreeBSD: I've been running FreeBSD as a > desktop (except at work :-( ) for a couple of years now, and I've been > very happy with it. Speed? Heck, I just pulled 110 MFLOPs out of a > LINPACK benchmark on my 1.333 GHz T-Bird (DDR SDRAM *almost* makes > this box the equivalent of Kent's dual coppermine). It'll be > interesting to build an SMP box based upon AMD CPUs. That will > probably also cut my winter heating bill. :-) > > Praise be to Jordan and the whole FreeBSD team. One of these days > (perhaps soon), I'll finally make a contribution. > > Hey, Chris. I've put this message couple days ago, almost a week old! I have been a FreeBSD user for quite a while and matured enough using this OS in such way that I no longer seek help but, most of the time, giving help to newbies who just started using FreeBSD. However, I have to tell you that I have tried Redhat 7.1 with 2.4.x kernel and it just amazed me in every area (performance, hardware support for my fairly new laptop!). I agree FreeBSD is good OS in certain areas. But it does seem to lack in desktop area and hardware support. My new optical usb mouse doesn't run on FreeBSD. I have been working on it for more than a month but still couldn't get it to work! At the end, I had to settle with my old "wheel" based mouse which I'm really tired of cleaing the dirt every week! After some serious thought (it's always very hard to make transition!), I have finally decided to switch to Linux for 4 reasons: 1) KDE, GNOME and other Window managers are only 100% compatible with Linux. I've discovered only 90% of KDE and GNOME functionality work on FreeBSD. (NO JAVA support! I couldn't get any JAVA applications to run on FreeBSD). I'm kind of suspicious about compatibility between GNU C/C++ compilers and FreeBSD also. 2) My laptop is only 100% supported under Linux with kernel 2.4 and 2.4 is very fast. Under FreeBSD, I have to disable the "doze" mode for CPU otherwise, FreeBSD won't even boot! USB seems to be conflicting with other components in system also so none of the USB devices are working at least for my laptop. 3) When installing very large files like Mozilla, teTeX and XFree86-4, FreeBSD takes forever to install! Even with async option enabled, the package for teTeX takes good 15 minutes, Mozilla good 20 minutes to unzip and install. It takes forever unzipping XFree86-4 source for compilation under FreeBSD. And my machine isn't that archaic, it's 500Mhz, 128M, UDMA 33 Hard drive! Under Linux, installing teTeX took only 10 sec or so. 4) None of the NVIDIA cards are supported in FreeBSD. Sure it runs, but only with 2D, unaccelerated mode. I'm not bashing FreeBSD here. It's just that, FreeBSD seem to be more suited for server purpose than desktop arena. Lastly, what's with FreeBSDers saying Linux takes forever to boot than FreeBSD? Redhat by default enables everything! I turned off services I don't need and it takes less than 5 sec booting my laptop. For me FreeBSD took longer to boot (more like 20-30 sec). Maybe it's different for nonlaptops. I just wanted clarify that I wasn't bashing FreeBSD. I was mearly pointing out my "wishes". Anyways, I will be unsubscribing the FreeBSD stable list in couple days or so. If you read my previous messages, you would have understood how frustrated I was having to make transition! (I probably installed both Redhat and FreeBSD back and forth 10 times last week! 3 time this morning before I finally made up my mind.) Now, I need to concentrate on physics and less of OS. Regards, Sung N. Cho, Sunday, July 29, 2001. Dept. of Physics, Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Is KDE 2.x.x Media Player (Noatun) working under FreeBSD?
Hi, Has anyone one figure out how to get the media player in KDE 2.1.1 (Noatun) to work in FreeBSD? I don't know whether it's an incompatibility between KDE and FreeBSD or just a misconfiguration. Sung N. Cho To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: Is FreeBSD more secure than Windows NT or Windows 2000?
Hi, Thank you all for your generous info on encryption. Hmmm, now I don't know what Microsoft actually meant when they advertised Windows NT, 2000 was "Truly Secure"! Regards, Sung N. Cho, Saturday, July 21, 2001. Dept. of Physics, Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University. On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Jerry Stachowski wrote: > Hi--- > >Have you considered PGP encypting your confidential files? > > Take Care--- > Jerry Stachowski > > Sung Nae Cho wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > One thing that makes me uncomfortable with both Linux and FreeBSD is that > > unlike Windows NT, both UNIX clones seem to be less secure for a desktop > > use. ( ** Note clones doesn't mean it's any less better than UNIX, it just > > means, it's not officially considered UNIX by OPEN-GROUP ** ) I've used > > Windows NT 4.0 since '98, Linux since '99, FreeBSD since '00 and finally > > gone FreeBSD only on my laptop. However, unlike, Windows NT 4.0, other > > people can get access to my confidential files! How? Well, they can just > > reinstall the FreeBSD without deleting my $HOME directory and as a root, > > they can access all my files! This is a great concern when my laptop gets > > stolen! Windows NT is very secure in that matter. Simply reinstalling > > Windows NT will not let you read someone else's file. Also, it won't let > > you reinstall Windows NT without verifying that you're the right > > administrator! During the reinstall, it asks for your root passwd. If > > the passwd doesn't match, it won't let you reinstall unless you're willing > > to reinstall from scratch (reformat or erase everything before going on to > > installation procedure). Now I think that's being secure all the way. Is > > there anyway I can do that with FreeBSD? For example, attaching signature > > to all my files etc. > > > > Regards, > > Sung N. Cho, > > Saturday, July 21, 2001. > > > > Dept. of Physics, > > Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Is FreeBSD more secure than Windows NT or Windows 2000?
Hi, One thing that makes me uncomfortable with both Linux and FreeBSD is that unlike Windows NT, both UNIX clones seem to be less secure for a desktop use. ( ** Note clones doesn't mean it's any less better than UNIX, it just means, it's not officially considered UNIX by OPEN-GROUP ** ) I've used Windows NT 4.0 since '98, Linux since '99, FreeBSD since '00 and finally gone FreeBSD only on my laptop. However, unlike, Windows NT 4.0, other people can get access to my confidential files! How? Well, they can just reinstall the FreeBSD without deleting my $HOME directory and as a root, they can access all my files! This is a great concern when my laptop gets stolen! Windows NT is very secure in that matter. Simply reinstalling Windows NT will not let you read someone else's file. Also, it won't let you reinstall Windows NT without verifying that you're the right administrator! During the reinstall, it asks for your root passwd. If the passwd doesn't match, it won't let you reinstall unless you're willing to reinstall from scratch (reformat or erase everything before going on to installation procedure). Now I think that's being secure all the way. Is there anyway I can do that with FreeBSD? For example, attaching signature to all my files etc. Regards, Sung N. Cho, Saturday, July 21, 2001. Dept. of Physics, Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
RE: Has anybody been having problem with latest Snapshot for 4.3? (Release 4.3-20010718-STABLE)
I'm also glad that it's not just me! If you want to stay stable, you could either install everything from the latest SNAPSHOT (excluding the preprepared packages) or CVSUP and make world I prefer to reinstall the snapshot since it's much faster than making world and etc. Also, I really can't justify the performance gain I get from recompiling the files with all the system specific optimization flags enabled. Anyone getting enormouse or noticeable performance gain through recompilation? For the packages, I'm getting it from FreeBSD 4.3 Release ftp sites. Yours sincerely, Sung N. Cho, Friday, July 20, 2001. Dept. of Physics, Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University. On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Steve Bernard wrote: > Thank God it isn't just me!!! I've been racking my brain over the same > problems for the past couple of days. I installed 4.3-STABLE a couple of > weeks ago, late June, without a problem. This week I decided to rebuild the > system and have been experiencing the exact problems that you describe. > Finally, I used my 4.3-RELEASE CD and everything installed flawlessly. To > test things out I successfully installed OpenBSD 2.9, RedHat Linux 7.1, > _and_ Windows 2000 Server, individually, using the same box and never had a > problem. On a similar note, a couple of weeks ago the INDEX file was missing > for the most recent STABLE releases on releng4.freebsd.org and that caused > several aborted package installs for me. > > Regards, > > Steve Bernard > > Systems Engineer > George Mason University > > > -----Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sung Nae Cho > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 5:29 AM > To: José M. Fandiño > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Has anybody been having problem with latest Snapshot for > 4.3? (Release 4.3-20010718-STABLE) > > > On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Sung Nae Cho wrote: > > > On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, José M. Fandiño wrote: > > > > > Sung Nae Cho wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Has anyone run across package install failure with the latest snapshot > > > > (4.3-20010718-STABLE) which was released on Wednesday, July 18? I'm > > > > reinstalling my FreeBSD using snapshots since it seems to be faster > than > > > > CVSUP and making the world. During the install, when it asks you if > you > > > > want to install "Linux Binaries", if I say yes, the installation > abruptly > > > > ends with the error, "Segmentation fault (core dumped) and says > something > > > > about signal 11 .." I thought it was a bug in new snapshot, so I > > > > tried installing snapshot released on July 17, July 16, (I had been > using > > > > it prior) and those installation causes the same problem! So, I've > > > > reinstalled the snapshot edition 20010718 and this time, I answered > "NO" > > > > for "Linux binaries part" then exited the install. I've logged in as > root > > > > and ran /stand/sysinstall then "Configure" -> "Packages" -> "FTP" and > same > > > > thing happens. I get "Segmentation fault (core dumped) singal 11 > > > > error." Is this a problem with the FreeBSD FTP site or bug in > release? > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ > > > > > > > Yours sincerely, > > > > Sung N. Cho, > > > > Friday, July 20, 2001. > > > > Dept. of Physics, > > > > Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University, > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Thanks for the info. But, after reading this article, I don't think it's > > the hardware failure for my case. I am compiling kernel, all other ports > > flawlessly under FreeBSD. Also, I had no problem installing Redhat 7.1 > > and compiling Linux kernel 2.4.6 (did it yesterday!). I've tried > > reinstalling FreeBSD via ftp 7 times (5 times yesterday, 2 times today) > > all with different settings in BIOS for I thought it might be the settings > > in BIOS that was causing the problem. But, for all 7 tries, it always > > fails at exactly same point of installation, i.e., when the installation > > asks if "linux binaries for compatibility" should be enabled. If I choose >
