Re: Big problems with 7.1 locking up :-(
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:21:17 +0100 Michel Talon wrote: > My previous upgrade was FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #0: Tue Jul 22, and worked > perfectly fine with exactly the same software configuration. > Now i have FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE #0: Mon Jan5, and the situation is > disastrous. Makes you wonder on on earth could have changed that much between 7.0/7.1 Nice upgrade.. This should not happen on the same hardware! -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D + http://nagual.nl/ | SunOS sxce snv105 ++ + All that's really worth doing is what we do for others (Lewis Carrol) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: ZFS version 8 on stable?
Timothy Wilson wrote: > I'm trying to import my zfs file system from a Macintosh machine. It > was created at version 8. Being new to zfs, I did not realise that > FreeBSD would be running at a lower version; I thought zfs was zfs! Of > course, trying to import my zpool fails, complaining that the version > is too new. Have you tried to send a snapshot on you Mac and receive that snapshot on your FreeBSD machine? -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ http://nagual.nl/ | SunOS 10u5 05/08 ++ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Closing the Jo Rhett argument
On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:52:24 -0700 Jo Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The first time mention of BETA and RC cycles came up was in his > reply to me, which was full of personal insults and attacks like the > following, so I discarded it without reply: > > > I see no reason to assume competence on your part since you have > > demonstrated no competence. > ... > > I don't need to assume anything about you. You have demonstrated > > your idiocy to everyone on the list. Please keep your insane > > rants to yourself in the future. If the above quotes are true, the writer should be ashamed of himself. Your POV has stirred some dust ;-) But to call you names is weird. BTW ever meet a sane person? And, did you like it? Whatever my pov on you issues are I don't think people should start insulting one another. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D ++ http://nagual.nl/ + SunOS sxde 01/08 ++ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 6.2; 6.3; EOL; combustible discussions
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 10:17:20 +0800 "Adrian Chadd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and users should be happy that there's even a project here they can > get access to without some kind of warez-like upload/download ratio. Although I agree that FreeBSD's availability to the public is great I do not agree with this "you are a user, so just be happy" attitude. If developers get pissed off by (some) user comments I might understand that, but if they can't deal with "users" and their POVs they might better quit being a developer to an -open- project like FreeBSD and start developing products just for themselves. You have developers in 'flavours'; you also have all sorts of users ;-) > further discussion is just going to upset people even further. :) Being/geeting upset is -always- ones own fault. After all, it's only a discussion, not a war. So why be upset about words? -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D ++ http://nagual.nl/ + SunOS sxde 01/08 ++ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature with buggy 6.3
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 14:37:11 -0700 Jo Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > These are the raw issues without any friendly wording. > > 1. Bugs in 6.3 that are patched aren't available in any other > -RELEASE. 2. Bugs in 6.3 outstanding that don't affect 6.2 > 3. Overall amount of bugs. > 4. Difference in code base between 6.3 and 6-STABLE is > than 6.2 > and 6.3 > > These combine to produce a release which will never be "stable" for > production needs. You are in fact saying 6.3-RELEASE should not have been released at the time it was. It should have been posponed 'till some open bugs were solved. I agree with you that a RELEASE is supposed to be more mature / stable then a development version. And you state it is -not- -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D ++ http://nagual.nl/ + SunOS sxde 01/08 ++ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: CLARITY re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature with buggy 6.3
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 12:53:10 -0700 Jo Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why does it make sense for FreeBSD to stop supporting a stable > version and force people to choose between two different unstable > versions? Is this really the right thing to do? NO, it's not. But you can't change that. The maintainers run the show. It's their time and their baby. And from one pov that's true. Users have to shut up if not contributing big time. I still think your questions are legitimate. You won't win the battle however. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D ++ http://nagual.nl/ + SunOS sxde 01/08 ++ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Status of ZFS in -stable?
On 18 May Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > However, when using Norton Ghost to make backup snapshots, the files > (on ZFS) come out corrupt. They are not corrupt on UFS backed SAMBA > service. Since when does Norton Ghost claim to support ZFS? If not, how can you expect the files *not* to be corrupted? -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D ++ http://nagual.nl/ | SunOS 10u4 08/07 ++ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: ad0 READ_DMA TIMEOUT errors on install of 7.0-RELEASE
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:39:11 -0800 Stephen Hurd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a workaround, adding the line: > hw.ata.ata_dma="0" > To /boot/loader.conf will disable DMA and prevent the hangs that are > caused by the DMA timeouts. Yeah, but having dma=1 makes the system faster, doesn't it? -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D ++ http://nagual.nl/ + SunOS sxde 01/08 ++ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Upgrading to 7.0 - stupid requirements
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:43:20 -0500 "Kevin K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No one is forcing you to upgrade. Head in the sand reaction. I think the guy is right. The upgrade proces and constant rebuilding of ports made me switch in the end after years of using freeBSD. My computer is fast, but I want to use it for someting useful iso compiling and compiling and.. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D ++ http://nagual.nl/ + SunOS sxde 01/08 ++ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: zfs on FreeBSD
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:56:46 -0700 Freddie Cash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 21 March 2007 01:49 pm, Christian Walther wrote: > > The other one is http://www.blastwave.org > > There is a nice script called "pkg-add" available, that is similar > > to apt-get. > > Wouldn't pkgsrc be a better system to use, for someone coming from > FreeBSD? No. FreeBSD is very good in building from source. The ports system makes sure it is. Building on solaris often means removing of linuxism in Makefiles or software that *only* compiles with GCC (stupid). Plus you need an up2date building environment like a recent version of Nevada (the developers edition from februari is very good). If you want bleeding edge packages you do something like "pkgadd -i package" and everything (including all depts) are installed. This is using Blastwave. It takes some extra diskspace but with modern prices, who cares.. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ http://nagual.nl/ | Solaris 10 11/06 ++ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: bug on BTX
On 22 Sep Dominic Marks wrote: > CyberSans AirBort wrote: > >i have tested 6.2-BETA and the same problem still appear when i want to > >install it into compaq evo desktop; BTX HALTED. > Go into the BIOS, disable BIOS DMA transfers **. After that it will boot > normally. I have about 20 EVOs, which this change they run fine. This is > true of all versions of FreeBSD I have ever tried. Still remains the question on why FreeBSD is not able to boot when bios DMA transfers are set set to on, while XP and linux just do what they're supposed to. It should not be necessary i.m.h.o. -- dick -- http://nagual.nl/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.1 +++ Solaris 10 6/06 ++ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMware host on stable?
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:15:55 -0700 Scott Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Butler wrote: > > What is the most recent version of VMware known to work on 6.x in > > host mode so as to be able to run windoze as a guest? > > > > Anyone tried 5.5 on 6.x yet? .. or the time-limited beta (expires > > ~July) of VMware server (free! at > > http://www.vmware.com/products/server)? > > > > Michael > > > > I have the same question. I've been looking at porting the 5.5 vmmon > module, but haven't had time yet to start. All I really need is the > ability to run an existing vmware image. And no, qemu and xen and > all that is not an option. You're entitled to your POV, of course. But I dare say that *on FreeBSD* Qemu (w/ kqemu) is far better than any build of vmware I've ever seen. Any reason why qemu is "not an option"? -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.0 ++ The Power to Serve ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: X.org 6.9
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:28:03 -0700 "Wilde, Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Friday, I updated to latest 6-stable and did portupgrade --all > successfully, however, I did not restart the system and X until this > morning. The system boots to login properly, but will not startx to > KDE. It locks up completely, cannot even ssh in from outside. > What else should I be doing? I portupgraded -rRa (all) ports and all was well. Except the fact that KDE (my wife's account uses it) did not start up. Fvwm (my own manager) did though. What I did was a *one time start* of kde from my root account. This one did start! I logged off again as root, started X as my wife an now kde started up OK. Don't know why, but hey, it works ;-) -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.0 ++ The Power to Serve ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: advice please
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 22:46:30 +0100 Melvyn Sopacua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 20 December 2005 22:01, dick hoogendijk wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:49:21 +0100 > > > > Melvyn Sopacua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tuesday 20 December 2005 21:36, dick hoogendijk wrote: > > > > I used to be able to play (windows) mplayer2 files and *.mov > > > > files with my native mozilla browser and mplayerplug-in > > > > installed. Lately that does not work anymore. Mozilla just > > > > crashes, firefox starts up the mplayerplug-in and than stops > > > > (hangs). > > > > > > Did this start after upgrading firefox to 1.5? > > > Related: > > > does: > > > find /usr/X11R6/include/firefox /usr/X11R6/include/mozilla -type > > > f \ -print |xargs grep nsPluginThread > > > > > > yield any results? > > > > I can't remember if the firefox upgrade was related. I _do_ upgrade > > both browsers if portupgrade says there is a newer version. I do > > have the latest firefox installed also. > > > > The results for the above find command: > > > > /usr/X11R6/include/mozilla/oji/nsIThreadManager.h:typedef struct > > _nsPluginThread > > nsPluginThread; /usr/X11R6/include/mozilla/oji/nsIThreadManager.h: > > GetCurrentThread(nsPluginThread* *threadID) = > > 0; /usr/X11R6/include/mozilla/oji/nsJVMManager.h: > > GetCurrentThread(nsPluginThread* *threadID); > > Hmm, so Mozilla still provides compatibility for oji java plugins, > where firefox doesn't. > I just took a quick look at mplayerplugin source and can't find any > references to PRThread. The plugin uses the provided top-level > interfaces. Did you recompile the plugin? I recompiled mozilla, firefox and the plugin I recompiled a couple of times. To no use. Mozilla just crashes, firefox shows the "plugin-window" and does nothing. I never used the option "without-gui" btw. > I just installed it and it doesn't really work for me (opens a new > window iso playing in the designated space, probably because I didn't > compile mplayer using WITHOUT_GUI), but doesn't crash anything either. > I tried the apple movie trailers. Yeah, only difference it that when I try to open an movie trailer, mozilla coredumps and firefox stops with a blank plugin-window. Hope that somebody knows how to solve this. I liked mplayerplug-in very much. It seems the only way to have some multimedia with mozilla/firefox. Plus, it *used* to work ;-( -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.0 ++ The Power to Serve ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: advice please
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:49:21 +0100 Melvyn Sopacua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 20 December 2005 21:36, dick hoogendijk wrote: > > > I used to be able to play (windows) mplayer2 files and *.mov files > > with my native mozilla browser and mplayerplug-in installed. Lately > > that does not work anymore. Mozilla just crashes, firefox starts up > > the mplayerplug-in and than stops (hangs). > > Did this start after upgrading firefox to 1.5? > Related: > does: > find /usr/X11R6/include/firefox /usr/X11R6/include/mozilla -type f \ > -print |xargs grep nsPluginThread > > yield any results? I can't remember if the firefox upgrade was related. I _do_ upgrade both browsers if portupgrade says there is a newer version. I do have the latest firefox installed also. The results for the above find command: /usr/X11R6/include/mozilla/oji/nsIThreadManager.h:typedef struct _nsPluginThread nsPluginThread; /usr/X11R6/include/mozilla/oji/nsIThreadManager.h: GetCurrentThread(nsPluginThread* *threadID) = 0; /usr/X11R6/include/mozilla/oji/nsJVMManager.h: GetCurrentThread(nsPluginThread* *threadID); -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.0 ++ The Power to Serve ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
advice please
I used to be able to play (windows) mplayer2 files and *.mov files with my native mozilla browser and mplayerplug-in installed. Lately that does not work anymore. Mozilla just crashes, firefox starts up the mplayerplug-in and than stops (hangs). I don't know where to look. I reinstalled all related ports to no avail. Are some of you also having problems with mplayerplug-in and mozilla or (if not) can I get some tips / advice about how to tackle the problem? Where to look for; what to do? Some related info: mozilla-1.7.12_5,2 = up-to-date with port linuxpluginwrapper-20051113 = up-to-date with port mplayerplug-in-3.17 = up-to-date with port listing of /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins .firefox.keep .mozilla.keep flashplayer.xpt -> /usr/X11R6/lib/linux-flashplugin6/flashplayer.xpt libflashplayer.so -> /usr/X11R6/lib/linux-flashplugin6/libflashplayer.so libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/local/jdk1.4.2/jre/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji.so mplayerplug-in-gmp.so mplayerplug-in-gmp.xpt mplayerplug-in-qt.so mplayerplug-in-qt.xpt mplayerplug-in-rm.so mplayerplug-in-rm.xpt mplayerplug-in-wmp.so mplayerplug-in-wmp.xpt mplayerplug-in.so mplayerplug-in.xpt nppdf.so -> /usr/local/lib/acroread/usr/local/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.0 ++ The Power to Serve ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 5-stable kernel hang during boot
On 09 Nov Paul Keusemann wrote: > On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 10:27:33PM -0600, Billy Newsom wrote: > > See my posts and others on these topics: > > critical BOOT failure updating to latest 5-Stable (5.4) > > 5.3 -> 5.4 breaks ATA (Intel ICH2) > > [PATCH] option to re-enable aggressive ATA probing > > Thanks for the pointers. I have not been able to figure out how to get > the mail list archive search to give me anything useful yet. > > So far, neither the patch to /usr/src/sys/dev/ata/ata-lowlevel.c or > reverting to the 5.3-Release acpi.ko has solved my problem. It > appears I have the same problem as Julian Dunn. The hang is occurring > in the same place anyway. > > Has anyone who has had a problem with 5-Stable tried 6.0? My 5-stable hangs. I use an ata drive (master0) and a dvd drive as master1. Booting hangs probing the dvd-drive *ONLY* when it's empty. When I put a CD in it (no matter what) the boot process just runs smoothly (both ad0 and acd0 are seen ;-) With 6.0R this no longer happens. The empty dvd-drive does not hang the boot process any longer. What a relief ;-) -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11-stable ++ FreeBSD 5.4 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: CD burning no longer working
On 05 Nov David Fleck wrote: > On Sat, 5 Nov 2005, Fabian Keil wrote: > >I never used burncd, but "/dev/acd0c" looks strange to me. > > > >The device is "/dev/acd0" and even the man page says > >"burncd -f /dev/acd0 data file1 fixate". > > Not my manpage: > > EXAMPLES > The typical usage for burning a data CD-R: > >burncd -f /dev/acd0c data file1 fixate > > in fact, my version doesn't recognize /dev/acd0 at all: # burncd -f > /dev/acd0 data /misc/backup_assemble/backup051105.iso fixate burncd: > open(/dev/acd0): No such file or directory /dev/acd0c is used in FreeBSD-4.11 but in the 5.x / 6.x /dev/acd0 is used. So it all depends on the version you run ;-) -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11-stable ++ FreeBSD 5.4 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
burncd and dvd-drives
I was and am a great fan of the burncd utility. Very fast, simple and cli.. But as almost any new computer is supplied with a dvd drive this nice program has become quit useless. It does not support those drives. My question is: will it ever do? I mean, cd-rom drives are losing terrain with each day passed. Or will I be "forced" to either buy an oldfashioned cdrom drive in my new machines? ; or recompile for atapicam ? ; or any other solution? Maybe I ask for to much. I'm no programmer myself. I have no idea whatsoever about the code changes needed in burncd to support at least the burning of CD's. (dvd's are different). -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11-stable ++ FreeBSD 5.4 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Fw: GENERIC and DEFAULTS
On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 23:27:15 +0100 Philippe PEGON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ken Menzel wrote: > >> options INVARIANT_SUPPORT > >> > >> nooptions WITNESS > >> nooptions WITNESS_SKIP_SPIN > > > > > > If I include GENERIC can I comment out the following? > > #cpuI486_CPU > > #cpuI586_CPU > > > > Does this make any difference? I have always done this out of > > habit. would it become > > in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/NOTES we can read : > > # > # You must specify at least one CPU (the one you intend to run on); > # deleting the specification for CPUs you don't need to use may make > # parts of the system run faster. > # > cpu I486_CPU > cpu I586_CPU# aka Pentium(tm) > cpu I686_CPU# aka Pentium Pro(tm) > > > > > > nocpu I486_CPU ? > > > > Or is this irrelevant as the build knows what CPU I have? > > if the description is true, it's relevant ;) Sure, but I think it's the *syntax* that matters here? options -> nooptions / i486_cpu -> no??? It's OK to leave GENERIC alone, but HOW are things switched off? -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11-stable ++ FreeBSD 5.4 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 6.0 release date and stability
On 22 Oct Mike Jakubik wrote: > On Sat, October 22, 2005 12:25 pm, Mike Jakubik wrote: > > > You can run make check-old in /usr/src. > > > Oops, it seems this feature is in 7-CURRENT only. If the appropiate > person is reading this, why isnt something like that available in 6? I > think it would be a very useful feature. What a shame. You made me glad for a very short time. This seemed to be the option I was looking for. Straight forward and understandable. It's not in 6 though .. so, any tips on another easy way? -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11-stable ++ FreeBSD 5.4 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
make.conf for 6.0
My make.conf contains (fbsd-5.4) CFLAGS= -O -pipe COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe Are these settings the same for the upcoming release6 or do I need to set -O2 in this new version? -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11-stable ++ FreeBSD 5.4 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 6.0 release date and stability
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:30:52 -0400 Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But he old libraries are still on the system than, aren't they? > > Or will they not be used and if not, why? > > Use libchk and pkg_which..see their manpages. After looking into the manual(s) this seems to be a "dangerous" or at least not an easy operation. Can someone be a little more specific about how to remove old 4.x / 5.x libraries from a FreeBSD system? -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11-stable ++ FreeBSD 5.4 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 6.0 release date and stability
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:53:51 -0400 Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 11:36:35PM +0200, Ronald Klop wrote: > > COMPAT_FREEBSD5 is meant for running FreeBSD-5 binary applications. > > If you have them it's ok. If you recompile everything you don't > > need the COMPAT_FREEBSD5 stuff. If you don't have the source of > > some of your FreeBSD-5 applications you have to run with > > COMPAT_FREEBSD5. And the switch to 6 is easier because your > > 5-applications keep running. > > Yes. As long as you only use your old 5.x applications, you're fine > with just the compat. The problem is when you start to link *new* 6.0 > applications with *old* 5.x libraries (e.g. by installing a new port, > e.g. a new X application, without rebuilding your 5.x X installation > first). > > Thus, unless you upgrade all your 5.x ports (well, actually "many", > i.e. only those that provide libraries or shared object modules, but > it's easier to just do "all") you'll end up with 6.0 binaries that are > linked to e.g. two versions of libc at once (the 5.x libc and the 6.0 > libc), which is a recipe for disaster. I learn much from these kind of answers. Thanks Kris. What I don't get is how I can /get rid/ of these old 4.x / 5.x libraries on my "new" updated 6.0 system. I guess teh way to go is: cvsup to the latest 6.0 source; do the well-known buildworld thing; rebuild the kernel without compat_freebsd4/5 option (???) and rebuild every port with portupgrade -fa But he old libraries are still on the system than, aren't they? Or will they not be used and if not, why? -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11-stable ++ FreeBSD 5.4 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 6.0 release date and stability
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:52:00 -0400 Vivek Khera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 16, 2005, at 7:57 AM, dick hoogendijk wrote: > > The *ONLY* question is: will I need to *recompile* all installed > > ports if I go from 5.4 to 6.0 release? > > No, the kernel has COMPAT_FREEBSD5 and COMPAT_FREEBSD4 by default, > so just keep those and your shared libs around and you're golden. > Of course, ports like lsof which dependon the kernel version will > have to be rebuilt, but that's true no matter the version change... I get contradicting advice. You tell me I'm golden 'cause of the compat_xx settings; others tell me it's way better to *recompile* all portsto get the cleanest system. Wat is the best way to get the cleanest FreeBSD-6.x system without installing from scratch? Recompile each port? Or use the COMPAT_FREEBSD5 layer? -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11-stable ++ FreeBSD 5.4 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: 6.0 release date and stability
On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:03:53 -0400 "Joshua Coombs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For what it's worth, on UP, my 386 (stop laughing) is showing twice > the inbound and outbound tcp throughput across multiple apps compared > to 4.11. Disk throughput is slightly higher, but nothing super > impressive. If 6.0 can show gains on a 386, that tells me there is > some actual merit to the changes. The news I read about fFreeBSD-6.0 is quit good lately. I might even upgrade my 5.4 box. I'm told it will be a rather smooth proces. The *ONLY* question is: will I need to *recompile* all installed ports if I go from 5.4 to 6.0 release? -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11-stable ++ FreeBSD 5.4 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD -STABLE servers repeatedly crashing.
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:32:09 -0400 (EDT) Matt Juszczak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For me, 5 days up time after switching from IPF to PF. Before the switch a > > couple of hours of uptime was the maximum. Seems like the crashes are > > caused > > by ipfilter. > > > Still same for me :) Uptime almost 20 days now after switching to PF. I find this messages kind of weird. Are you saying your servers only run long periods of uptime with pf and *not* with ipf? I run a server and almost never put it down. IPF performs very well, including a lot of natting for my home network. -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11-stable ++ FreeBSD 5.4 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
