Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ? (with sort of workaround)

[Ryan Root]

If you want to use an operating system that takes advantage of CPU to memory 
optimizations without taking steps backwards you have to pay a price.


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 Original message From: Don Lewis <truck...@freebsd.org> Date: 
1/30/18  4:58 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: Mike Tancsa <m...@sentex.net> Cc: Pete French 
<petefre...@ingresso.co.uk>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Andriy Gapon 
<a...@freebsd.org>, Peter Moody <free...@hda3.com>, Nimrod Levy 
<nimr...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ? (with sort of 
workaround) 
On 30 Jan, Mike Tancsa wrote:
> On 1/30/2018 5:23 PM, Nimrod Levy wrote:
>> That's really strange. I never saw those kinds of deadlocks, but I did
>> notice that if I kept the cpu busy using distributed.net
>> <http://distributed.net> I could keep the full system lockups away for
>> at least a week if not longer.
>> 
>> Not to keep harping on it, but what worked for me was lowering the
>> memory speed. I'm at 11 days of uptime so far without anything running
>> the cpu. Before the change it would lock up anywhere from an hour to a day.
>> 
> Spoke too soon. After a dozen loops, the process has hung again.  Note,
> this is not the box locking up, just the compile.  I do have memory at a
> lower speed too. -- 2133 instead of the default 2400

I suspect the problem is a race condition that causes a wakeup to be
lost.  Adding load changes the timing enough to avoid the problem most
of the time.

> I also just tried upgrading to the latest HEAD with a generic kernel and
> same / similar lockups although procstat -kk gives some odd results
> 
> 
> root@amdtestr12:/home/mdtancsa # procstat -kk 6067
>   PID    TID COMM    TDNAME  KSTACK
> 
>  6067 100865 python2.7   -   ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0
> ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0
>  6067 100900 python2.7   -   ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0
> ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0
>  6067 100901 python2.7   -   ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0
> ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0
>  6067 100902 python2.7   -   ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0
> ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0
>  6067 100903 python2.7   -   ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0
> ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0
>  6067 100904 python2.7   -   ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0
> ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0
>  6067 100905 python2.7   -   ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0
> ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0
>  6067 100906 python2.7   -   ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0
> ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0
>  6067 100907 python2.7   -   ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0
> ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0
>  6067 100908 python2.7   -   ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0
> ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0
>  6067 100909 python2.7   -   ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0
> ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0
>  6067 100910 python2.7   -   ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0
> ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0
>  6067 100911 python2.7   -   ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0
> ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0 ??+0

Strange ... kernel vs. world mismatch?  Some other new regression in
HEAD?


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Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ?

[Ryan Root]

Have you double checked the qualified vendors list data for your
motherboard.  Sometimes memory chips not on the list will work as it's
probably only a list of ones they've tested but it might be the problem
in this situation.  If that was already brought up by someone else sorry
for butting in.

This looks like the QVL list for your MB ->
http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_ga-ax370-Gaming5.pdf


On 1/19/2018 12:13 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote:
> Drag :( I have mine disabled as well as lowering the RAM freq to 2100
> from 2400.  For me the hangs are infrequent.  Its only been a day and a
> half, so not sure if its gone or I have been "lucky"... Either ways,
> this platform feels way too fragile to deploy on anything :(
>
>   ---Mike
>
> On 1/19/2018 3:08 PM, Nimrod Levy wrote:
>> Looks like disabling the C- states in the bios didn't change anything. 
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 9:22 PM Nimrod Levy > > wrote:
>>
>> That looks promising. I just found that seeing in the bios and
>> disabled it. I'll see how it runs.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018, 18:38 Don Lewis > > wrote:
>>
>> On 17 Jan, Nimrod Levy wrote:
>> > I'm running 11-STABLE from 12/9.  amdtemp works for me.  It
>> also has the
>> > systl indicating that it it has the shared page fix. I'm
>> pretty sure I've
>> > seen the lockups since then.  I'll update to the latest STABLE
>> and see
>> > what  happens.
>> >
>> > One weird thing about my experience is that if I keep
>> something running
>> > continuously like the distributed.net 
>> client on 6 of 12 possible threads,
>> > it keeps the system up for MUCH longer than without.  This is
>> a home server
>> > and very lightly loaded (one could argue insanely overpowered
>> for the use
>> > case).
>>
>> This sounds like the problem with the deep Cx states that has been
>> reported by numerous Linux users.  I think some motherboard
>> brands are
>> more likely to have the problem.  See:
>> 
>> http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5963=taichi-x370-with-ubuntu-idle-lock-ups-idle-freeze
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> --
>> Nimrod
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> --
>> Nimrod
>>
>


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Re: Two problems about ASUS N3150I-C

[Ryan Root]

Without more info it's likely going to be hard for anyone to help but both 
these symptoms you mention could be possibly related to processes that depend 
on the system clock not being messed with.  Some people these days try to cheat 
on games and stuff like that by using hacks that mess with the system clock.  
Those symptoms you are observing could be a way of your system letting you know 
it won't work right if you let apps mess with the system clock.  Maybe not.  If 
others have the same motherboard and use the same Realtek NIC but are not 
having problems I'd guess it's related programs on your system adjusting the 
system clock.  If that's not the case you may want to make sure ntp is working 
and maybe chose a different ntp server.  Maybe it's something else.  You'll 
likely be asked for more technical feedback from log files though if you want 
help with this issue.  You also could try disabling the onboard NIC and by a 
new NIC.

Ryan

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On Dec 10, 2017, 4:02 AM, at 4:02 AM, Yasuhiro KIMURA  wrote:
>Hello.
>
>I have two 11.1-RELEASE amd64 boxes working as my home servers. Their
>hardware spec are same and ASUS N3150I-C is used as motherboad. And
>there are two problems about it.
>
>1. 'shutdown -r now' doesn't work after system has been up for a while
>
>If I try 'shutdown -r now' just after system is up or after few hours,
>it works as is expected. But, for example, if I try it after one week
>of uptime, then it doesn't work anymore. OS is shutdown successfully
>but reset never happens. I updated BIOS of motherboard to latest one
>but it didn't fix the problem. And this problem happens on both boxes.
>
>2. NIC gets no response with 're0: watchdog timeout' kernel message
>
>Realtek RTL8111H is used as NIC of this motherboad. Sometime it gets
>no response after following kernel messages are displayed some times.
>
>Dec 10 01:11:37 maybe kernel: re0: watchdog timeout
>Dec 10 01:11:37 maybe kernel: re0: link state changed to DOWN
>Dec 10 01:11:41 maybe kernel: re0: link state changed to UP
>
>If this happens system need to be rebooted. It is very variable when
>NIC get this status. Sometime it happens after few hours system is up,
>but sometimes it doesn't happen after a month of uptime. And this
>problem happens only one of two boxes. One box is used for internal
>services and the other is used for external ones. The problem only
>happens on the latter. As is explaind above they have same hardware
>spec, but OS settings and/or installed applications are differnt. So
>it seems some of them specific to the latter are cause of NIC hangup.
>
>Then, are there any way to fix these problems or investigate why they
>happens? Any suggestions or comments are welcome.
>
>---
>Yasuhiro KIMURA
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Weird system cpu usage

[Charlie Root]

 Free

  PIDUIDTHR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATE  C   TIMECPU COMMAND
   10  0  1 171 ki31 0K16K RUN1 501:24 26.46% [idle: cpu1]
   11  0  1 171 ki31 0K16K CPU0   0 518:25 23.29% [idle: cpu0]
 1425 80  1   40 39968K 21568K kqread 0  20:49  2.39% 
/usr/local/sbin/lighttpd -f /usr/local/etc/lighttpd.conf
15486 80  1   40   378M 21440K accept 0   0:18  1.86% 
/usr/local/bin/php-cgi
15452 80  1   40   379M 25160K sbwait 1   0:19  1.56% 
/usr/local/bin/php-cgi
15481 80  1   40   378M 23180K accept 1   0:18  1.56% 
/usr/local/bin/php-cgi
15422 80  1   40   379M 24704K accept 1   0:23  1.37% 
/usr/local/bin/php-cgi
15423 80  1   40   379M 23368K accept 1   0:22  1.37% 
/usr/local/bin/php-cgi
15469 80  1   40   379M 24464K accept 1   0:19  1.37% 
/usr/local/bin/php-cgi
15447 80  1   40   378M 23800K accept 1   0:19  1.37% 
/usr/local/bin/php-cgi
15463 80  1   40   379M 25436K sbwait 1   0:19  1.37% 
/usr/local/bin/php-cgi
15474 80  1   40   379M 24772K accept 1   0:19  1.37% 
/usr/local/bin/php-cgi
15472 80  1   40   379M 24536K sbwait 1   0:19  1.37% 
/usr/local/bin/php-cgi
15477 80  1   40   379M 25240K accept 0   0:19  1.37% 
/usr/local/bin/php-cgi
15476 80  1   40   378M 22972K sbwait 1   0:19  1.37% 
/usr/local/bin/php-cgi
15467 80  1   40   378M 23168K accept 1   0:19  1.37% 
/usr/local/bin/php-cgi
15480 80  1   40   378M 23488K sbwait 0   0:18  1.37% 
/usr/local/bin/php-cgi
15493 80  1   40   378M 24876K accept 1   0:18  1.37% 
/usr/local/bin/php-cgi

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FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #2: Tue Mar 18 16:16:43 CET 2008
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Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+ (2799.98-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin = AuthenticAMD  Id = 0x40f33  Stepping = 3
  
Features=0x178bfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT
  Features2=0x2001SSE3,CX16
  AMD Features=0xea500800SYSCALL,NX,MMX+,FFXSR,RDTSCP,LM,3DNow!+,3DNow!
  AMD Features2=0x1fLAHF,CMP,SVM,ExtAPIC,CR8
  Cores per package: 2
usable memory = 4253347840 (4056 MB)
avail memory  = 4099985408 (3910 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: M S I  OEMAPIC 
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
ioapic0 Version 2.1 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
kbd1 at kbdmux0
acpi0: M S I OEMRSDT on motherboard
acpi0: [ITHREAD]
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
acpi0: reservation of 0, a (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of 10, ddf0 (3) failed
Timecounter ACPI-safe frequency 3579545 Hz quality 850
acpi_timer0: 32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
acpi_throttle0: ACPI CPU Throttling on cpu0
acpi_throttle0: CLK_VAL field overlaps THT_EN bit
device_attach: acpi_throttle0 attach returned 6
cpu1: ACPI CPU on acpi0
pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1
vgapci0: VGA-compatible display port 0xc000-0xc0ff mem 
0xfc00-0xfdff,0xfe9f-0xfe9f,0xfe80-0xfe8f irq 18 at 
device 5.0 on pci1
pci1: multimedia at device 5.2 (no driver attached)
pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 7.0 on pci0
pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2
atapci0: ATI ATA controller port 
0xb000-0xb007,0xa000-0xa003,0x9000-0x9007,0x8000-0x8003,0x7000-0x700f mem 
0xfe7ff800-0xfe7ffbff irq 22 at device 18.0 on pci0
atapci0: [ITHREAD]
ata2: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
ata2: [ITHREAD]
ata3: ATA channel 1 on atapci0
ata3: [ITHREAD]
ohci0: OHCI (generic) USB controller mem 0xfe7fe000-0xfe7fefff irq 16 at 
device 19.0 on pci0
ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
ohci0: [ITHREAD]
usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting
usb0: OHCI (generic) USB controller on ohci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: ATI OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb0
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ohci1: OHCI (generic) USB controller mem 0xfe7fd000-0xfe7fdfff irq 17 at 
device 19.1 on pci0
ohci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
ohci1: [ITHREAD]
usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb1: SMM does not respond, resetting
usb1: OHCI (generic) USB controller on ohci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: ATI OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ohci2: OHCI (generic) USB controller mem 0xfe7fc000-0xfe7fcfff irq 18 at 
device 19.2 on pci0
ohci2: [GIANT-LOCKED]
ohci2: [ITHREAD]
usb2: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb2: SMM does not respond, resetting

Re: Page fault, GEOM problem??

[Paul T. Root]

I'm coming in very late here, and only have some
hearsay. But, a friend of mine has built a new hobby
machine, with twin 160G drives on a 3Ware 8006, working as
a stripe. He had a bunch of problems with stability of the drives
until I gave him a couple of tiny (half size) jumpers, that he
put on the drive. Smooth sailing since them. If needed, I can find
what the jumpers did. But looking through the controllers doco
should give you a clue.


Johan Ström wrote:


On 23 jan 2006, at 09.53, Michael S. Eubanks wrote:


On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 06:43 +0100, Johan Ström wrote:

Wish I could be of more help. :)  Have you tried to toggle the sysctl
dma flags?  I've seen similar posts in the past with read timeouts
caused from dma being enabled.

# sysctl -a | grep dma
...
hw.ata.ata_dma: 1  === Try turning this one off (1 == 0).
hw.ata.atapi_dma: 1
...


Disabling DMA, wouldnt that give me pretty bad performance?


-Michael

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Re: GDM problem

[Paul T. Root]

Two of us just went through it, last week. A number of tweaks
gets you going again, but the real answer is to set:

VTAllocation=true

in /usr/X11R6/etc/gdm/gdm.conf

You may want to set the Virtual Terminal you want as well. I turn
off 5-8 to tty, and have mine come on VT5. I never use the four as
it is.

Paul.

Justin Smith wrote:

After upgrading to STABLE a few days ago, several odd problems developed:

1. cups did not start automatically. It turned out the CUPS script was 
being given the parameter 'faststart' rather than 'start'


2. GDM started but in an odd mode that didn't detect any keyboard input 
(so I couldn't log in). The mouse continued to work.
When I started in nongraphical mode and manually started GDM as root, it 
worked normally.


Any suggestions?
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Re: gdm problem with kernel as of 2005-01-04

[Paul T. Root]

I'm in at work and turned off gdm in my rc.conf and rebooted.
The keyboard works fine! Then manually starting gdm and it
still works. That's great.

I think that something happened in the rc files that makes it
start earlier and that's conflicting with something that freezes
the keyboard.


Richard Kuhns wrote:
I just finished a buildworld/buildkernel/mergemaster on my Dell Inspiron 
9300. Upon rebooting, I noticed that gdm seemed to start earlier in the 
boot process than it used to. When the login screen appeared, the mouse 
seemed to work fine, but nothing I typed appeared. Attempting to use 
C-A-F1 to switch to vty0 just beeped. C-A-Del worked to reboot the 
laptop. I booted single user, commented out gdm_enable=YES in 
/etc/rc.conf, and rebooted -- everything was fine. I put the gdm_enable 
back and ran /usr/X11R6/etc/rc.d/gdm.sh start -- gdm started, fully 
functional.


I rebooted again -- gdm ignored the keyboard.

After several reboots, I've found that gdm seems to work fine as long as 
I don't have 'gdm_enable=YES' in /etc/rc.conf when the machine boots.


I've just finished upgrading gdm (using portmanager); still the same 
problem.


If anyone has suggestions/wants me to try anything, just say so.

Thanks!
- Rich


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keyboard failing on Dell laptop with 6.0-Stable this week.

[Paul T. Root]

I have an old Dell Inspiron 5000 (800MHz, 512M RAM),
that I've been running 6.0 since it was released.

It was running great with -Stable cvsupped around
Dec 18th or so. Tuesday, I saw that a problem with
NFS locking was fixed, and I was having an nfs/amd
problem on a desktop Vectra, so I cvsupped both machines
and did a buildworld, etc.

The Vectra had no problem. I'm not sure if the NFS issue
is solved, I haven't had opportunity to be on that machine
this week.

Anyway, after coming up in full user mode, the keyboard is
locked up on the Dell. I searched the archives and it seems
that 5.4-S has some problems in this regard and that devd is
the culprit.

I commented out the 8-10 lines in devd.conf that have ukbd0
in them. But that didn't help at all. I tried turning off
devd, big mistake, the network didn't come up then. Makes
sense. I tried coming up without DBUS, as that was the last
thing I'd done before the holiday's on the machine. No help.

I have a usb keyboard at home, but this machine is at work,
and I forgot it over night. Anybody have any other ideas.

Oh, I had a custom kernel, also tried the GENERIC kernel
and the old kernel. I re-cvsupped on Wednesday and built
again.

Thanks,
Paul.


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nfs server timeout

[Paul T. Root]

I have a HP Vectra running
FreeBSD acesfbsd 6.0-STABLE FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE #0: Fri Dec  9 14:44:30 
CST 2005


that has trouble with nfs mounts (amd home directory) from a Solaris 8
box.

It started life as 4.x went through a lot of 5.x all with no problems.
However, since upgrading to 6.0, occasionally, it will get the
dreaded nfs server not responding message. That will last for a few
minutes and then come back.

The server is fine, all the Solaris clients have no trouble at the time.
The ethernet interface is clean. 100Meg full.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Paul.


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Re: Copying kernel and OS

[Paul T. Root]

It should work fine. You need to preserve mod and access
times as well as flags and permissions.

If you are going to do this on a repeated basis, I'd look
into something like cvsup or rsync, maybe even mirror, to
keep the slow machines directory structures in sync rather
than a cp -Rp.

Paul.


Jack Raats wrote:

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Is it also possible to scp both directories to the slow machine?

JAck

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Jack Raats wrote:


I've two machines running FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE.
One very fast machine and one very very slow machine. On the fast 
machine I can compile a new kernel and OS very quickly and easily.
Is it possible to transfer the compile world and kernel to the slow 
machine. If yes whart directories etc... do i have to transfer.


Jack



I do something like this.  I build on the fast machine, and then use 
NFS to allow the slow machine to access /usr/src and /usr/obj.  I have 
found that it is important to preserve the names of the directories, 
so that they are also called /usr/src and /usr/obj on the slow 
machine.  Then I just do mergemaster, make installworld, make 
installkernel (in the appropriate order) on the slow machine, and it 
works like a charm.


The entries in fstab are like this:
hub2:/usr/obj/usr/objnfs rw,bg,noauto0   0
hub2:/usr/src/usr/srcnfs rw,bg,noauto0   0
where hub2 is the name of the fast machine.

In /etc/exports on hub2 I have something like this
/usr -maproot=root -alldirs -network 10.0.0.0 -mask 255.255.255.0
(here 10.0.0.0 is the IP addresses of my LAN)

and in /etc/rc.conf on hub2 I have some lines like
nfs_server_enable=YES
rpcbind_enable=YES

Then on the slow machine I simply type
mount /usr/src
mount /usr/obj

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tunnels through a NAT device

[Paul T. Root]

I sent this out Saturday from home, but it doesn't
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I'm trying to setup and encrypted tunnel
between 2 FreeBSD machines. Yesterday, I
did get the tunnel up between two machines
on the same network, and got it encrypted.
Pretty easy following the handbook.

Now, I have a machine at home behind a
DSL modem (Actiontec) that NATs everything.
I've made the machine the DMZ host for
the Actiontec, which basically passes all
ports not otherwise directed to the machine.

The machines are both Sparcs. I'm using
aliases for routing.

Internet machine:

hme0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
options=bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU
inet A.B.C.D netmask 0xffe0 broadcast A.B.C.Z
inet6 fe80::a00:20ff:fec0:3fe1%hme0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
inet 192.168.99.1 netmask 0x broadcast 192.168.99.1
ether 08:00:20:c0:3f:e1
media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP)
status: active

gif0: flags=8051UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 1280
tunnel inet A.B.C.D -- E.F.G.H
inet6 fe80::a00:20ff:fec0:3fe1%gif0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
inet 192.168.99.1 -- 192.168.90.250 netmask 0x



home NATed machine:
hme0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
options=bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU
inet6 fe80::a00:20ff:fec0:5061%hme0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
inet 192.168.0.250 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255
inet 192.168.90.250 netmask 0x broadcast 192.168.90.250
ether 08:00:20:c0:50:61
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX)
status: active

gif0: flags=8051UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 1280
tunnel inet E.F.G.H -- A.B.C.D
inet6 fe80::a00:20ff:fec0:5061%gif0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
inet 192.168.90.250 -- 192.168.99.1 netmask 0x




Now this works, exactly like this, on two machines that are not
NATed.

E.F.G.H is the address of the dsl modem on the outside. I've tried
setting the home machine's gif0 interface to both E.F.G.H and
192.168.0.250 going to A.B.C.D. Obviously, the internet machine has
to point to E.F.G.H.

Should I set the alias of hme0 on the home machine to E.F.G.H?

Is there a way to do this?





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Re: upgrading 5.4 - 6.0 without reinstalling. safe ?

[Paul T. Root]

How is this different from a fresh install? Except for
a very limited amount in config files, which would be easier
to save and restore. And home directories. Again, save and
restore.

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You don't have to remove the ports prior to upgrading. Just recompile them 
later.



Why would I want to do that though ? It gives me no advantages, and some
serious disadvantages (especially if I am doing this on a 'live' system).
Much easier to delete everything prior to the upgrade, and then I know that
the machine is just the base system, and that none of my users are running
apache, or pine, or exim or whatever - because I deleted them :-).  Standard
practice for me, even when going from one minor release to the next...

-pcf.
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Re: gnome-upgrade.sh

[Paul T. Root]

Things are running better now. I moved it to  a dedicated
DSL line in my lab, and it's chugging along.

I see an occasional g_vfs_done message fly across. Error 16
on a read.
Something like
g_vfs_done: acd0[READ(offset=81920, length=2048) Error = 16

Opps, I crashed the machine. When I moved it, I unplugged the
USB DVD-RW and I had mounted one of the dist discs on there.
When I did a umount it paniced. My bad.

acd0 would be the internal DVD drive.


It seems that problem with my network was indeed the
Cisco ASA box we're beta testing. We have the CSC module
installed which is a stand alone linux box running trend for
virus, intrusion, etc. And there is a bug in the ftp inspection.
Hangs things up.

Ok, since I think the network is solved, I'll take this opportunity
to restart portmanager on the network.


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I moved the machine to a DSL line here, and am running
portmanager. It seems to be working.

We're going to investigate issues with this beta Cisco
ASA machine.





I am very interested at how things go with your upgrade,
please keep me informed.  Just to let you know, the current
version of portmanager is 0.3.3_2 if anything goes wrong check
that first portmanager -v.   If any problems arise I am more
than happy to work with you in solving them quickly.

-Mike




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port and install or restart gnome-upgrade.sh



I'm now assuming that since all gnome has been wiped off the
disk, that the thing to do is build/install the port directly.
Starting that up, I seem to be having the same downloading
difficulties.


As an alternative to gnome-upgrade.sh you may want to consider
using sysutils/portmanager, all you need do is run

portmanager x11/gnome2

It'll do the upgrade no problem, tested it twice now myself.


Interesting. The web page said specifically don't do portupgrade.


I didn't say portupgrade, it is sysutils/portmanager



My main problem is it's having trouble downloading, I think. I'm
not sure why. We found problems on our Pix (actually the new
ASA firewall) and the port the machine is on. We were getting half
duplex, but those are all fixed now. Curiously, command line ftp
never has a problem downloading, it's fetch (I think it's using fetch),
that can't seem to download.


While your problem has nothing to do with gnome-upgrade.sh, portmanager
is designed to automatically pickup from where it left off, so stopping
and starting isn't a problem, and it won't remove a port until its
replacement is successfully built so if the port didn't fetch you won't
lose anything, portmanager will just move on to the next port that can be
upgraded,  it is very fail safe.

-Mike

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Re: upgrading 5.4 - 6.0 without reinstalling. safe ?

[Paul T. Root]

I did this on a Sun Ultra5 system last night.
I forgot (as I usually do) mergemaster -p. But
everything worked fine. The -p usually just
catches missing users and such that could cause
install problems.

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usually when I upgrade across major versions of BSD I wipe the whole
machine and re--install from scratch. But I understand that the move
to 6.0 from 5.4 is nowhere near such a big leap.

So I was wondering hether I could just do this from source without any
ill effects, as if I was upgrading 5.4-5.5. I have nnever tried this before
though, and was wondering if there are any major pitfalls (i.e. is it actually
a really bad idea?)



The easiest would be to

1. cvsup to RELENG_6 (or RELENG_6_0)
2. cd /usr/src
3. make buildworld
4. make buildkernel
5. make installkernel
6. mergemaster -p
7. reboot into single-usermode and verify your new kernel works
8. mount -a
9. make installworld
10. mergemaster
11. reboot

All described in /usr/src/Makefile (and the handbook). You may need to
reinstall some apps, but most should work with compat5x in place.

regards
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Re: upgrading 5.4 - 6.0 without reinstalling. safe ?

[Paul T. Root]

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Pete French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  usually when I upgrade across major versions of BSD I wipe the whole
  machine and re--install from scratch. But I understand that the move
  to 6.0 from 5.4 is nowhere near such a big leap.
  
  So I was wondering hether I could just do this from source without any

  ill effects, as if I was upgrading 5.4-5.5.

That's exactly what I did.  I installed a new machine from
a 5.4-Release DVD-ROM, then updated to RELENG_5, and then
went to RELENG_6 from there.  The only special thing I had
to do was to manually rm -rf /usr/obj, otherwise the build-
world broke.


Oh yeah, I did rm -r the object tree, I forgot about that. It
was kind of a reflex thing when it failed.



Of course you should do take the usual precautions, i.e.
have a reliable backup, read UPDATING, don't forget to run
mergemaster etc.

Best regards
   Oliver



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gnome-upgrade.sh

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This script is one of the most frustrating things ever
written.

I made a fresh install (from CD) of 6.0R. In the install
I added gnome2, sudo, and bash. That's it. Gnome came up fine.
bash is great, sudo works.

Now, since gnome 2.12 is out, I want to upgrade to that.
Seems resonable.

http://www.freebsd.org/gnome tells us not to use portupgrade
to upgrade gnome2. The upgrades get out of order.

Ok fine, use gnome-upgrade.sh. And keep trying it says.

I've run it better than a dozen times, now. It's still trying.
All day, I turn and look at it periodically, resolve whatever
problem it seems to be having and start it up again.

1 time it said that it was successful! Woo Hoo! Wait, 2 times,
it just finished...

However it lies. What it's done is removed gnome completely.


The problem seems to lie in that downloads fail and so I get
a bunch of files in /usr/ports/distfiles that are not valid.
Using good old ftp, I grab the file needed and either build the
port and install or restart gnome-upgrade.sh

I'm now assuming that since all gnome has been wiped off the
disk, that the thing to do is build/install the port directly.
Starting that up, I seem to be having the same downloading difficulties.

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Re: Resolver doesn't like 1.2.3.04 in /etc/hosts

[Paul T. Root]

man inet_addr

and you'll find:

All numbers supplied as ``parts'' in a `.' notation may be decimal,
octal, or hexadecimal, as specified in the C language (i.e., a leading
0x or 0X implies hexadecimal; otherwise, a leading 0 implies octal;
otherwise, the number is interpreted as decimal).


So a leading zero means hex. Stop trying to make it look pretty.

Standards are a good thing and need to be followed.



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On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Mark Andrews wrote:



On 2005-10-26, Mark Andrews wrote:


Leading zeros are ambigious.  Some platforms treat them as octal
others treat them as decimal.


There is nothing ambiguous about the example provided.  (Perhaps
it wasn't a good example, but it's always a bug if '04' is not
correctly decoded, regardless of the numeric base in use.)


You want a ambigious example?

192.168.222.012



It amazed me that no RFC ever appears to have standardised this format 
(although it is alluded to in passing as being decimal in various other 
places). Eg, 1035 has:


[[[
 The RDATA section of
an A line in a master file is an Internet address expressed as four
decimal numbers separated by dots without any imbedded spaces (e.g.,
10.2.0.52 or 192.0.5.6).
]]]

(although that's DNS zone file format, not /etc/hosts.)



It's much easier to just reject octal and hexadecimal than
to work out when and when not it is ambigious.  It is also
better to demand all 4 octets.  It also generates less
support complaints.



I'm happy to reject octal and hex too! Anyway, count this as one (minor) 
support gripe :-)


Thanks for your time,
jan




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Re: Resolver doesn't like 1.2.3.04 in /etc/hosts

[Paul T. Root]

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man inet_addr

and you'll find:

All numbers supplied as ``parts'' in a `.' notation may be decimal,
octal, or hexadecimal, as specified in the C language (i.e., a leading
0x or 0X implies hexadecimal; otherwise, a leading 0 implies octal;
otherwise, the number is interpreted as decimal).


So a leading zero means hex. Stop trying to make it look pretty.

Standards are a good thing and need to be followed.



I also found:

[[[
STANDARDS
 The inet_ntop() and inet_pton() functions conform to X/Open Networking
 Services Issue 5.2 (``XNS5.2'').  Note that inet_pton() does not accept
 1-, 2-, or 3-part dotted addresses; all four parts must be specified and
 are interpreted only as decimal values.  This is a narrower input set
 than that accepted by inet_aton().
]]]

on that same man page :-)


Sure but the hosts(5) man page says that it follows inet_addr(3) spec.
Sorry, I neglected to put that little leap in.



Cheers,
jan

PS. I only raised the issue in case anyone else was bitten by it (which 
is why a PR might be handy). Having fixed /etc/hosts, I don't think 
this is worth wasting more energy on.


Yeah, you're right there.

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Re: Advice sought on upgrading from 4.11-R to 5.4...

[Paul T. Root]

I went via cvsup and a source tree, straight to 5.4 stable
from 4.10 stable.

Brad Knowles wrote:

Folks,

I've seen the migration guide at 
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.4R/migration-guide.html, and the 
thread at 
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2005-September/018151.html, 
but I was wondering about the specific sequence of the upgrade process.


In particular, I'm wondering if I should go from 
RELENG_4_11_0_RELEASE direct to RELENG_5_4, or if I should instead go 
first to RELENG_5_0_0_RELEASE then to RELENG_5_4?



I think the individual steps to follow and commands to execute 
during the upgrade are clear enough.  But it's not obvious to me as to 
which precise CVSup targets should be used to pull down the source that 
would be compiled, etc




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Re: any ideas when 5.5 will be out

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In the past, x.0 releases are meant for the adventurous
not the production oriented.

I never go before x.1. And I skipped 3.x completely.
I just got my final server from 4.11 to 5.4 in July.

6.x is probably still 9-12 months away from prime time.
But that's just a guess on my part. I do know that they
are pushing on it harder than they did for 5.0.

Sandro Noel. wrote:

Why would 5.5 come out after 6.0, what's the use ?
just upgrade to 6.0 ,.,, no?

Sandro

On 9/19/05, Eriq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I haven't noticed any word on this release, just 6.0




Most likely a month after 6.0 is released, as they are busy getting
6.0 ready for the release.





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On 9/19/05, Eriq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I haven't noticed any word on this release, just 6.0




Most likely a month after 6.0 is released, as they are busy getting
6.0 ready for the release.





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Re: any ideas when 5.5 will be out

[Paul Root]

I'm just stating my observations and my decisions
on when I upgraded to a major revision. I started this
back in the early 2.x.x days. I believe 2.2.1 is my
first set of CDs. And I still have most all of them.

I also put in the caveot that a lot of work is being
concentrated on 6.x so times could be shorter.

Personally, I may put 6.0 on a test machine, but I
won't put it in production. I don't work that way.

I will go to 5.5, I'm sure, on my servers. I update
from source fairly regularly. And that was the original
question: Why would 5.5 come out after 6.0?


Scott Long wrote:

Paul T. Root wrote:


In the past, x.0 releases are meant for the adventurous
not the production oriented.

I never go before x.1. And I skipped 3.x completely.
I just got my final server from 4.11 to 5.4 in July.

6.x is probably still 9-12 months away from prime time.
But that's just a guess on my part. I do know that they
are pushing on it harder than they did for 5.0.

Sandro Noel. wrote:



6.0 is indeed receiving quite a bit of testing and bugfixing.  It's
a bit presumptuous to make public claims that it's 9-12 months away,
though.  I can appreciate the conventional wisdom of staying away from
N.0 releases, but we are putting quite a bit of effort into this one.
6.1 is not going to be 9-12 months away either, nor will 6.2.  The 6.x
line is generating quite a bit of excitement and will be a very good set
of releases.

Scott


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Re: Upgrading RAM

[Paul T. Root]

It should just work.

A long time ago (2.x and 3.x days), Compaq's wouldn't work right
because of their junkie architecture. So you had to tell the kernel
how much memory you had.

That junkie architecture has moved to HP now, but at least that
problem is no longer there.

Øystein Holmen wrote:
I have a machine running FreeBSD 5.4 with 512MB RAM. Now I want to  
install an extra RAM-module. Do I have to do something in my  
configuration, or is it plug-and-play?


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Re: Incorrect super block--help!

[Paul T. Root]

You're trying to mount it as a rw disc and as a UFS file system

mount -r -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom

Mark Space wrote:

Hey, newb BSDer here with a question

I've got a brand new 5.4 install.  I'm trying to mount the CDROM.  As 
root, I type:


mount /dev/acd0 /cdrom

and I get incorrect super block error message after a bit of CD 
activity, and no mount.  I've tried a CD-RW I burned (the FreeBSD 
install disk I installed from) and an old copy of SimCity 2000, neither 
worked, same error message.


I'm stuck.  Any ideas?


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TODO PARA SU EMPRESA - DATAS LE OFRECE LO MEJOR EN LINUX

* INSTALACIÓN DE FILE  PRINT SERVERS GNU/LINUX

INSTALACIÓN SERVIDORES LINUX COMO SERVIDORES DE ARCHIVOS E IMPRESIÓN: CON
SOLUCIONES GNU UD. PUEDE COMPARTIR SUS ARCHIVOS E IMPRESIONES FÁCILMENTE,
AHORRÁNDOSE FORTUNAS EN LICENCIAS DE SOFTWARE PROPIETARIO, TANTO DEL LADO DEL
SERVER, COMO LICENCIAS DE ACCESO DE CLIENTES. INSTALAMOS SERVIDORES GNU/LINUX ,
DE LAS DISTRIBUCIONES MAS POPULARES DEL MERCADO:

* SERVIDOR WEB : (WEB SERVER)

APACHE, ES EL SERVIDOR WEB MAS UTILIZADO DEL MUNDO. CERCA DEL 65% DE LOS ISP LO
UTILIZAN PARA BRINDAR SOLUCIONES A SUS CLIENTES. DE HECHO GOOGLE, CUENTA CON
CERCA DE 10.000 SERVIDORES LINUX CORRIENDO APACHE. TANTO EN SU VERSIÓN 1.3.XX
COMO EN LA MODERNA VERSIÓN 2.0 . PONGA A FUNCIONAR APACHE EN SU INTRANET O EN SU
SERVIDOR WEB CORPORATIVO , OPTIMIZANDO AL MÁXIMO SUS RECURSOS.

* FIREWALL GNU/LINUX:

TRIALWAREZ. BRINDA CONSULTORÍA SOBRE SEGURIDAD INFORMÁTICA. SIN DUDA , EL
FIREWALL CONSTITUYE UNA DE LAS HERRAMIENTAS MAS IMPORTANTES A LA HORA DE
PROTEGERNOS SOBRE LOS CADA VEZ MAYORES ATAQUES EXTERNOS. UNA VEZ QUE CONECTAMOS
NUESTRA EMPRESA A INTERNET, ENTRAMOS EN UNA ZONA HOSTIL. LA VERSATILIDAD DE
LINUX HACE QUE LA SOLUCIÓN DE FIREWALLING QUE TRAE, SEA IMPLEMENTABLE TANTO EN
REDES HOGAREÑAS, PEQUEÑAS LAN, O EMPRESAS CON CIENTOS DE MÁQUINAS. TRIALWAREZ,
IMPLEMENTA Y CONFIGURA SOLUCIONES FIREWALL UTILIZANDO TANTO PRODUCTOS GNU COMO
IPTABLES A PARTIR DEL KERNEL 2.4, COMO SOLUCIONES NO GNU PERO DENTRO DE LAS
DISTRIBUCIONES LINUX COMO SUSE, MANDRAKE, RED HAT ETC.

* SERVIDOR PROXY CACHE

INSTALACIÓN DE SQUID PROXY CACHÉ SERVER: ¿DESEA COMPARTIR UNA ÚNICA CONEXIÓN A
INTERNET CON TODA SU EMPRESA.? QUIERE OPTIMIZAR SU CONEXIÓN ADSL UTILIZANDO UNA
PC EN DESUSO , Y ADEMÁS, SIN COSTO DE LICENCIAS ADICIONALES ? ¿NECESITA
ALMACENAR LAS PÁGINAS MAS VISTAS PARA OPTIMIZAR ANCHO DE BANDA Y ACELERAR LA
NAVEGACIÓN.? DESEA REALIZAR UN CONTROL SOBRE LOS SITIOS QUE SUS EMPLEADOS
VISITAN, ESTABLECIENDO UN ESQUEMA DE USUARIO Y CONTRASEÑA, QUE ADEMÁS DE FILTRAR
LOS CONTENIDOS INDEBIDOS, LE PERMITIRÁ SACAR TODO TIPO DE ESTADÍSTICAS POR
USUARIO, SITIOS NAVEGADOS, KBYTES ETC. ?
NO LO DUDE MAS, ENTONCES, NECESITA INSTALAR UN SERVIDOR SQUID PROXY CACHE.
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CORPORATIVO, CON CONTROL DE VIRUS Y SPAM, SIN TENER QUE DESENBOLSAR FORTUNAS EN
SOFTWARE, NI DEDICAR EQUIPOS MONSTRUOSOS PARA MANEJAR SU MENSAJERÍA. GNU/LINUX
CUENTA CON NUMEROSAS SOLUCIONES PARA MANEJAR EL CORREO CORPORATIVO: SENDMAIL,
QMAIL, POSTFIX ETC.

* REDES PRIVADAS VIRTUALES (VPNS)

EL PROPÓSITO DE UNA V.P.N. (VIRTUAL PRIVATE NETWORK) ES LA DE OFRECER SERVICIOS
DE CONECTIVIDAD , EN FORMA SEGURA, UTILIZANDO PARA TAL FIN, MEDIOS QUE NO SON
SEGUROS, COMO POR EJEMPLO LA INTERNET PÚBLICA. ESTO ES ÚTIL PARA CUANDO LA
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IMPLEMENTACIÓN DE UN CONJUNTO DE HERRAMIENTAS Y TECNOLOGÍAS QUE LE PERMITIRÁ
MONITOREAR TANTO SU RED
LAN/WAN COMO SUS VÍNCULOS A INTERNET, PUDIENDO VER EL ESTADO DE TODOS LOS
DISPOSITIVOS Y DISPARAR ALARMAS GRÁFICAS, SONORAS, Ó ENVIAR MENSAJES POR E-MAIL
Ó PAGER EN CASO DE PROBLEMAS, COMO ASÍ TAMBIÉN AGENDANDO TAREAS AUTOMÁTICAS PARA
LA SOLUCIÓN DE LOS MISMOS. CON ÉSTOS RECURSOS LOGRARÁ POSEER EL CONTROL DE SU
RED AL ALCANCE DE SU MOUSE.

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 PARA QUE SU PASO AL MUNDO DE LA LIBERTAD OPENSOURCE SEA LO MENOS PROBLEMÁTICO
POSIBLE, LE OFRECEMOS NUESTRA EXPERIENCIA EN MIGRACIONES DE WINDOWS (TM) HACIA
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MS OFFICE(TM) . ELABORAMOS UN PLAN DE MIGRACIÓN Y REALIZAMOS LOS CAMBIOS
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AHORRE FORTUNAS EN COSTOS EXORBITANTES EN MATERIA DE LICENCIAS DE SOFTWARE. SI
TIENE PROBLEMAS DE LICENCIAS, Y QUIERE REGULARIZAR LA SITUACIÓN , SIN PERDER
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PARA AFRONTAR ESTA TAREA. LE CONFIGURAMOS UN ROBUSTO SERVIDOR PARA QUE SE OLVIDE
DE LOS PROBLEMAS DE TRANSFERENCIAS QUE NO LLEGAN, O USUARIOS QUE SATURAN EL
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TRANSFERENCIA DE ARCHIVOS MAS 

Re: problem with /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8

[Charlie Root]

On Mon, Jul 05, 2004 at 11:49:45AM -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote:
 Odhiambo Washington wrote:
 I am trying to install perl-5.8.4 on a 4.10-STABLE box, but the build
 always fails with MIME::Base64.
 
 Did you have an older version of perl-5.8 on that system?  You might find 
 it useful to pkg_delete p5-* and the older perl before building 5.8.4.

I have the same problem. It is not solved by following your suggestion.

Michael

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3COM 3XP card

[Paul Root]

Hi,
I've recently received a 3COM ethernet card that
has the 3XP chip allowing 3DES encryption on board.

I see that the card is supported by 4.4. Can I
use the encryption technology? How?

Thanks,
Paul.

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Re: telnet problem.

[Paul T. Root]

Vivek Khera [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
 that has been posted to ml.freebsd.stable as well.
 
  PR == Paul Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 PR   This happens for both on and off network routers. Connection to
 PR the FreeBSD machine is through a Firewall-1 4.1 machine (sun). 
 
 There was some discussion about firewalls losing state too early and
 dropping/locking some connections.  Your culprit is most likely the
 Firewall-1 machine.


Well, it would be nice to blame FW-1 on this, but I can't. 
I can open 2 windows from my Sun thru the firewall to the
FreeBSD machine. With the first one, I do my normal things,
working on the machine, with the second I telnet out. 

The first one never dies. I can have one window open all
week long. The second one dies after an hour of idle time.

The same thing will happen if I telnet (TeraTerm) from my
Win2000 machine to the FreeBSD machine, that are on the
same network. 

The same thing will happen if I telnet to the Win2000
machine. 

The only constant in all my synario's is the telnet client
program on FreeBSD. 




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No Subject

[Charlie Root]

Dear List,

I keep getting the following error when upgrading to 4-STABLE from 3-STABLE.I am 
following UPDATING exactly. This error occurs during buildworld.
c++ -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include/g++ -O -pipe   -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/u
sr/include -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../contrib/gperf/lib -I/usr/src/gn
u/usr.bin/gperf -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../contrib/gperf/src/new.cc
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../contrib/gperf/src/new.cc:80: warning: `catch
', `throw', and `try' are all C++ reserved words
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../contrib/gperf/src/new.cc: In function `void
operator delete(void *)':
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../contrib/gperf/src/new.cc:82: declaration of
`operator delete(void *)' throws different exceptions...
internal:82: ...from previous declaration here
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.
*** Error code 1

Stop.

snip

There are just more of the same Error code 1s after the snip. I blew away my obj tree 
before the build. I cvsupd the 4-STABLE with RELENG_4 tag. That went perfectly and 
finished successfully. I also tried 4.1.1-RELEASE with errors, 4.2-RELEASE with 
errors, 4.0-RELEASE with errors - not the same errors, all different errors. I'm 
having a heck of a time upgrading :( Any ideas?

Thanks,
Alex
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