Re: 4.11 to RELENG_6

2005-08-13 Thread M. Warner Losh
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Oliver Fromme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: Björn König <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:  > Randy Bush wrote:
:  > > any peculiarities/clues for upgrading an antique from 4.11 to
:  > > RELENG_6 beyond the "To upgrade in-place from 5.x-stable to 
:  > > current" in UPDATING?
:  > 
:  > I guess not. From the release notes of 6.0-BETA2:
:  > 
:  > "Source upgrades to FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT are only supported from FreeBSD 
:  > 5.3-RELEASE or later. Users of older systems [...]
: 
: Unfortunately, that statement is ambiguous:  FreeBSD 4.11
: (Jan. 2005) is _not_ older than 5.3 (Nov. 2004).  However,
: I guess that's not what the release notes really mean.

Older here means 'numerically smaller' not 'released earlier'.

Warner
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Re: 4.11 to RELENG_6

2005-08-08 Thread Doug Barton

Randy Bush wrote:

any peculiarities/clues for upgrading an antique from 4.11 to
RELENG_6 beyond the "To upgrade in-place from 5.x-stable to 
current" in UPDATING?


Back up important data, and do a clean install of 6. At minimum, by trying 
to upgrade in place you'll not get UFS2 partitions. And unless you've bumped 
the default partition sizes since you installed 4.x, you'll probably not be 
happy with life in a 6-stable world.


hth,

Doug

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Re: 4.11 to RELENG_6

2005-08-08 Thread Bruce A. Mah
If memory serves me right, Oliver Fromme wrote:
> Björn König <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > Randy Bush wrote:
>  > > any peculiarities/clues for upgrading an antique from 4.11 to
>  > > RELENG_6 beyond the "To upgrade in-place from 5.x-stable to 
>  > > current" in UPDATING?
>  > 
>  > I guess not. From the release notes of 6.0-BETA2:
>  > 
>  > "Source upgrades to FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT are only supported from FreeBSD 
>  > 5.3-RELEASE or later. Users of older systems [...]
> 
> Unfortunately, that statement is ambiguous:  FreeBSD 4.11
> (Jan. 2005) is _not_ older than 5.3 (Nov. 2004).  However,
> I guess that's not what the release notes really mean.

Sorry.  :-(  The case of someone trying to upgrade from 4.X to 6.X
hadn't occurred to me when I wrote that (because, as noted, 4.X to 5.X
is non-trivial).

> For the mentioned update from 4.x to 6.x, I would go via
> a binary upgrade, which has probably fewer pitfalls and
> is finished a lot faster than a source upgrade.

I'd advise that as well.

Bruce.



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Re: 4.11 to RELENG_6

2005-08-08 Thread Oliver Fromme
Björn König <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > Randy Bush wrote:
 > > any peculiarities/clues for upgrading an antique from 4.11 to
 > > RELENG_6 beyond the "To upgrade in-place from 5.x-stable to 
 > > current" in UPDATING?
 > 
 > I guess not. From the release notes of 6.0-BETA2:
 > 
 > "Source upgrades to FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT are only supported from FreeBSD 
 > 5.3-RELEASE or later. Users of older systems [...]

Unfortunately, that statement is ambiguous:  FreeBSD 4.11
(Jan. 2005) is _not_ older than 5.3 (Nov. 2004).  However,
I guess that's not what the release notes really mean.

For the mentioned update from 4.x to 6.x, I would go via
a binary upgrade, which has probably fewer pitfalls and
is finished a lot faster than a source upgrade.

Best regards
   Oliver

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Re: 4.11 to RELENG_6

2005-08-07 Thread Randy Bush
> "Source upgrades to FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT are only supported from FreeBSD 
> 5.3-RELEASE or later. Users of older systems wanting to upgrade 
> 6.0-CURRENT will need to update to FreeBSD 5.3 or newer first, then to 
> FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT."

sigh.  on that path now.  it has rocks.

randy

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Re: 4.11 to RELENG_6

2005-08-07 Thread Björn König

Randy Bush wrote:

any peculiarities/clues for upgrading an antique from 4.11 to
RELENG_6 beyond the "To upgrade in-place from 5.x-stable to 
current" in UPDATING?


I guess not. From the release notes of 6.0-BETA2:

"Source upgrades to FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT are only supported from FreeBSD 
5.3-RELEASE or later. Users of older systems wanting to upgrade 
6.0-CURRENT will need to update to FreeBSD 5.3 or newer first, then to 
FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT."


Björn


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4.11 to RELENG_6

2005-08-07 Thread Randy Bush
any peculiarities/clues for upgrading an antique from 4.11 to
RELENG_6 beyond the "To upgrade in-place from 5.x-stable to 
current" in UPDATING?

randy

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