Re: 6.2 loader hangs on Supermicro P8SCT

2007-04-16 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Friday 13 April 2007 14:50, patrick wrote:
 I had the same symptones with a Supermicro 5014C-T (has P8SCi board)

 I 'fixed' this by adding autoboot_delay=-1 in /boot/loader.conf.

 since then it boots normaly

I have tried this but it doesn't fix it here :(

I've emailed Supermicro but I dunno how long it will take them to get back to 
me.

I'm also not really sure how this can be debugged since the computer locks up 
solid :(

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Re: 6.2 loader hangs on Supermicro P8SCT

2007-04-14 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Friday 13 April 2007 16:17, patrick wrote:
  Unfortunately that makes it impossible to interrupt the loader to go into
  single user mode (or whatever).

 that is depending on the situation you are in. there are more ways to get
 in 'other boot modes' then using the bootloader on the disk.

Hmm.. How can you get to (say) single user mode, or load an old kernel?
They're the really critical things I use the loader for (usually in desperate 
circumstances :)

  I wonder if it is a race of some sort with the BIOS doing a periodic task
  and hence reducing the delay makes it work most of the time.

 Also note I have also exactly the same system (second one) which has no
 problems at all.

Yeah it seems to affect our systems unevenly too, although they are putatively 
identical..

 I never had the time to pull them apart to find out what the diff is which
 causing this issue.

phase of the moon during construction or the diodes?! :)

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Re: 6.2 loader hangs on Supermicro P8SCT

2007-04-14 Thread Andrei Kolu
On Saturday 14 April 2007 10:36, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
 On Friday 13 April 2007 16:17, patrick wrote:
   Unfortunately that makes it impossible to interrupt the loader to go
   into single user mode (or whatever).
 
  that is depending on the situation you are in. there are more ways to get
  in 'other boot modes' then using the bootloader on the disk.

 Hmm.. How can you get to (say) single user mode, or load an old kernel?
 They're the really critical things I use the loader for (usually in
 desperate circumstances :)

Press any key to gain boot prompt while system is loading- look at loader 
messages.
From appeared boot prompt type: boot -s

Or if you want other kernel:
#unload kernel
#load kernel.old
#boot

   I wonder if it is a race of some sort with the BIOS doing a periodic
   task and hence reducing the delay makes it work most of the time.
 
  Also note I have also exactly the same system (second one) which has no
  problems at all.

 Yeah it seems to affect our systems unevenly too, although they are
 putatively identical..

  I never had the time to pull them apart to find out what the diff is
  which causing this issue.

 phase of the moon during construction or the diodes?! :)
I got almost identical board P8SCi and have no problems running FreeBSD 6.1, 
6.2, 7-CURRENT. Maybe you should look at supermicro site and upgrade bios. I 
think this is ACPI problem. You can disable ACPI temporarily at the boot 
loader prompt by issueing unset acpi_load if you are having problems 
booting an ACPI enabled machine. 
 
If you want to disable ACPI simply add hint.acpi.0.disabled=1 
to /boot/device.hints.
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Re: 6.2 loader hangs on Supermicro P8SCT

2007-04-14 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Saturday 14 April 2007 18:55, Andrei Kolu wrote:
 Press any key to gain boot prompt while system is loading- look at loader
 messages.
 From appeared boot prompt type: boot -s

I was under the impression that if you set the autoboot delay to 0 (or -1) 
then you won't be able to get to the loader prompt at all.

I must admit I haven't tested it though.
  phase of the moon during construction or the diodes?! :)

 I got almost identical board P8SCi and have no problems running FreeBSD
 6.1, 6.2, 7-CURRENT. Maybe you should look at supermicro site and upgrade
 bios. I think this is ACPI problem. You can disable ACPI temporarily at the
 boot loader prompt by issueing unset acpi_load if you are having problems
 booting an ACPI enabled machine.

The loader doesn't use ACPI so while it may be related to ACPI the command you 
suggest won't have an effect.

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Re: 6.2 loader hangs on Supermicro P8SCT

2007-04-13 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Friday 13 April 2007 14:50, patrick wrote:
 I had the same symptones with a Supermicro 5014C-T (has P8SCi board)

 I 'fixed' this by adding autoboot_delay=-1 in /boot/loader.conf.

 since then it boots normaly

Unfortunately that makes it impossible to interrupt the loader to go into 
single user mode (or whatever).

I wonder if it is a race of some sort with the BIOS doing a periodic task and 
hence reducing the delay makes it work most of the time.

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6.2 loader hangs on Supermicro P8SCT

2007-04-12 Thread Daniel O'Connor
I am seeing the loader hang during a normal boot (but not when booting from 
the install CD).

I can work around it by shortening the boot delay to around 1 second. If it is 
any longer the count time timer stops and is is unresponsive to any input 
except the reset switch.

Also, if I break into the loader prompt in time I can then do things as 
normal.. very odd!

Does anyone know of a proper fix for it? This work around is very kludgy :(

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Re: 6.2 loader hangs on Supermicro P8SCT

2007-04-12 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Friday 13 April 2007 12:37, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
 Also, if I break into the loader prompt in time I can then do things as
 normal.. very odd!

 Does anyone know of a proper fix for it? This work around is very kludgy :(

I think this is the same as http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=93762

Unfortunately I can't see a solution :(

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