Re: Any options on crypt+zfs ?

2012-04-23 Thread Nenhum_de_Nos

On Sat, April 21, 2012 12:46, Ronald Klop wrote:
 On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:32:43 +0200, Nenhum_de_Nos
 math...@eternamente.info wrote:

 hail,

 I have a soekris running an atom and 2GB RAM and ZFS using 7 drives,
 small capacity though, to
 test and study if I can make my home server this box and this way. It
 will be a simple server,
 three users tops.

 I followed the handbook and made the geli step on the disks:

 Geom name: label/zfs1.eli
 State: ACTIVE
 EncryptionAlgorithm: AES-XTS
 KeyLength: 128
 Crypto: software
 UsedKey: 0
 Flags: NONE
 KeysAllocated: 38
 KeysTotal: 38
 Providers:
 1. Name: label/zfs1.eli
Mediasize: 160041881600 (149G)
Sectorsize: 4096
Mode: r1w1e1
 Consumers:
 1. Name: label/zfs1
Mediasize: 160041885184 (149G)
Sectorsize: 512
Mode: r1w1e1


 all disks are this way (just 4 disks are on geli zfs).

 would it be faster, if I had geli over zfs, and not the other way (as is
 now) ?

 my performance is too low (I know the hardware is not that much, but I
 compared it to a friend's
 arm based AP-Router gadget and my setup is when much equal. I have 1.6
 GHz Atom and 2GB ram, he
 has not half this ... I know can't compare arm and x86 clock for clock
 ...)

 I'll try to run geli on single disk, to see how much ZFS is impacting on
 performance, but, is
 there any other way around ? All I want is RAID5, and FreeBSD has not
 developed RAID5 from GEOM
 (AFAIK) since a long time. ZFS is the way people go in recent years.

 suggestions are welcome, just want to upgrade my old 8.0 BETA3 using
 geom mirror/stripe to a newer
 approach that would be supported by FreeBSD.

 I have an external enclosure for 4 SATA disks (port multiplier included)
 using 4 disks, another
 port multiplier 5x1 using now 3 disks, and:

 ahci1@pci0:13:0:0:   class=0x010601 card=0x10601b21 chip=0x06121b21
 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'ASMedia Technology Inc.'
 class  = mass storage
 subclass   = SATA

 with two eSATA to the Port Multipliers.

 First try to look for the bottleneck.
 What is the performance without GELI? And what performance do you want to
 have? If you want performance, why do you use encryption on low-end
 hardware?

 Ronald.

Hi Ronald,

GELI is it. Without GELI I can get to almost 10MB/s (Fast Ethernet wire speed). 
But when GELI is
on the way, 3MB/s is never reached.

well, I don't want to have a gigabit wire speed encrypted file server. All I 
want is to look for
the ways to make mine as fast as it can be. If 2MB/s is the fastest it can go, 
then I'll see if it
is enough or not. I just need to make sure I'm in the fastest config possible.

I got to see that Via Padlock and their site says is really fast (wouldn't they 
?!), so I'm trying
to get a board from them to see it myself. But first I need to get rid of the 
atom board, as this
is my home, I can't have so many machines :)

thanks for all,

matheus

 thanks,

 matheus

 machine:
 ACPI Error: A valid RSDP was not found (20110527/tbxfroot-237)
 Copyright (c) 1992-2012 The FreeBSD Project.
 Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
  The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
 FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
 FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Wed Apr 11 13:04:15 BRT 2012
 root@macgyver:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/net6501-amd64 amd64
 ACPI Error: A valid RSDP was not found (20110527/tbxfroot-237)
 CPU: Genuine Intel(R) CPU@ 1.60GHz (1600.04-MHz K8-class CPU)
   Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0x20661  Family = 6  Model = 26
 Stepping = 1
   
 Features=0xbfe9fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
   
 Features2=0x40e3bdSSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE
   AMD Features=0x20100800SYSCALL,NX,LM
   AMD Features2=0x1LAHF
   TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
 real memory  = 2147352576 (2047 MB)
 avail memory = 2046488576 (1951 MB)
 MPTable: Soekris  net6501 
 Event timer LAPIC quality 400
 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
 FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 1 core(s) x 2 HTT threads
  cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
  cpu1 (AP/HT): APIC ID:  1
 ioapic0: Assuming intbase of 0
 ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
 kbd0 at kbdmux0
 ACPI Error: A valid RSDP was not found (20110527/tbxfroot-237)
 ACPI: Table initialisation failed: AE_NOT_FOUND
 ACPI: Try disabling either ACPI or apic support.
 cryptosoft0: software crypto on motherboard
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Re: Any options on crypt+zfs ?

2012-04-21 Thread Ronald Klop
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:32:43 +0200, Nenhum_de_Nos  
math...@eternamente.info wrote:



hail,

I have a soekris running an atom and 2GB RAM and ZFS using 7 drives,  
small capacity though, to
test and study if I can make my home server this box and this way. It  
will be a simple server,

three users tops.

I followed the handbook and made the geli step on the disks:

Geom name: label/zfs1.eli
State: ACTIVE
EncryptionAlgorithm: AES-XTS
KeyLength: 128
Crypto: software
UsedKey: 0
Flags: NONE
KeysAllocated: 38
KeysTotal: 38
Providers:
1. Name: label/zfs1.eli
   Mediasize: 160041881600 (149G)
   Sectorsize: 4096
   Mode: r1w1e1
Consumers:
1. Name: label/zfs1
   Mediasize: 160041885184 (149G)
   Sectorsize: 512
   Mode: r1w1e1


all disks are this way (just 4 disks are on geli zfs).

would it be faster, if I had geli over zfs, and not the other way (as is  
now) ?


my performance is too low (I know the hardware is not that much, but I  
compared it to a friend's
arm based AP-Router gadget and my setup is when much equal. I have 1.6  
GHz Atom and 2GB ram, he
has not half this ... I know can't compare arm and x86 clock for clock  
...)


I'll try to run geli on single disk, to see how much ZFS is impacting on  
performance, but, is
there any other way around ? All I want is RAID5, and FreeBSD has not  
developed RAID5 from GEOM

(AFAIK) since a long time. ZFS is the way people go in recent years.

suggestions are welcome, just want to upgrade my old 8.0 BETA3 using  
geom mirror/stripe to a newer

approach that would be supported by FreeBSD.

I have an external enclosure for 4 SATA disks (port multiplier included)  
using 4 disks, another

port multiplier 5x1 using now 3 disks, and:

ahci1@pci0:13:0:0:	class=0x010601 card=0x10601b21 chip=0x06121b21  
rev=0x01 hdr=0x00

vendor = 'ASMedia Technology Inc.'
class  = mass storage
subclass   = SATA

with two eSATA to the Port Multipliers.


First try to look for the bottleneck.
What is the performance without GELI? And what performance do you want to  
have? If you want performance, why do you use encryption on low-end  
hardware?


Ronald.



thanks,

matheus

machine:
ACPI Error: A valid RSDP was not found (20110527/tbxfroot-237)
Copyright (c) 1992-2012 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Wed Apr 11 13:04:15 BRT 2012
root@macgyver:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/net6501-amd64 amd64
ACPI Error: A valid RSDP was not found (20110527/tbxfroot-237)
CPU: Genuine Intel(R) CPU@ 1.60GHz (1600.04-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0x20661  Family = 6  Model = 26   
Stepping = 1

  
Features=0xbfe9fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
  
Features2=0x40e3bdSSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE
  AMD Features=0x20100800SYSCALL,NX,LM
  AMD Features2=0x1LAHF
  TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
real memory  = 2147352576 (2047 MB)
avail memory = 2046488576 (1951 MB)
MPTable: Soekris  net6501 
Event timer LAPIC quality 400
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 1 core(s) x 2 HTT threads
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP/HT): APIC ID:  1
ioapic0: Assuming intbase of 0
ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
kbd0 at kbdmux0
ACPI Error: A valid RSDP was not found (20110527/tbxfroot-237)
ACPI: Table initialisation failed: AE_NOT_FOUND
ACPI: Try disabling either ACPI or apic support.
cryptosoft0: software crypto on motherboard

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Re: Any options on crypt+zfs ?

2012-04-17 Thread Andriy Bakay
On 2012-04-16, at 22:54, Nenhum_de_Nos math...@eternamente.info wrote:

 
 On Mon, April 16, 2012 22:42, Andriy Bakay wrote:
 On 2012-04-16, at 13:32 , Nenhum_de_Nos wrote:
 
 hail,
 
 I have a soekris running an atom and 2GB RAM and ZFS using 7 drives, small 
 capacity though, to
 test and study if I can make my home server this box and this way. It will 
 be a simple server,
 three users tops.
 
 I followed the handbook and made the geli step on the disks:
 
 Geom name: label/zfs1.eli
 State: ACTIVE
 EncryptionAlgorithm: AES-XTS
 KeyLength: 128
 Crypto: software
 UsedKey: 0
 Flags: NONE
 KeysAllocated: 38
 KeysTotal: 38
 Providers:
 1. Name: label/zfs1.eli
 Mediasize: 160041881600 (149G)
 Sectorsize: 4096
 Mode: r1w1e1
 Consumers:
 1. Name: label/zfs1
 Mediasize: 160041885184 (149G)
 Sectorsize: 512
 Mode: r1w1e1
 
 
 all disks are this way (just 4 disks are on geli zfs).
 
 would it be faster, if I had geli over zfs, and not the other way (as is 
 now) ?
 
 my performance is too low (I know the hardware is not that much, but I 
 compared it to a friend's
 arm based AP-Router gadget and my setup is when much equal. I have 1.6 GHz 
 Atom and 2GB ram, he
 has not half this ... I know can't compare arm and x86 clock for clock ...)
 
 I'll try to run geli on single disk, to see how much ZFS is impacting on 
 performance, but, is
 there any other way around ? All I want is RAID5, and FreeBSD has not 
 developed RAID5 from GEOM
 (AFAIK) since a long time. ZFS is the way people go in recent years.
 
 suggestions are welcome, just want to upgrade my old 8.0 BETA3 using geom 
 mirror/stripe to a
 newer
 approach that would be supported by FreeBSD.
 
 I have an external enclosure for 4 SATA disks (port multiplier included) 
 using 4 disks, another
 port multiplier 5x1 using now 3 disks, and:
 
 ahci1@pci0:13:0:0:class=0x010601 card=0x10601b21 chip=0x06121b21 
 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'ASMedia Technology Inc.'
 class  = mass storage
 subclass   = SATA
 
 with two eSATA to the Port Multipliers.
 
 thanks,
 
 matheus
 
 machine:
 ACPI Error: A valid RSDP was not found (20110527/tbxfroot-237)
 Copyright (c) 1992-2012 The FreeBSD Project.
 Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
 FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
 FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Wed Apr 11 13:04:15 BRT 2012
 root@macgyver:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/net6501-amd64 amd64
 ACPI Error: A valid RSDP was not found (20110527/tbxfroot-237)
 CPU: Genuine Intel(R) CPU@ 1.60GHz (1600.04-MHz K8-class CPU)
 Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0x20661  Family = 6  Model = 26  Stepping = 1
 Features=0xbfe9fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
 Features2=0x40e3bdSSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE
 AMD Features=0x20100800SYSCALL,NX,LM
 AMD Features2=0x1LAHF
 TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
 real memory  = 2147352576 (2047 MB)
 avail memory = 2046488576 (1951 MB)
 MPTable: Soekris  net6501 
 Event timer LAPIC quality 400
 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
 FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 1 core(s) x 2 HTT threads
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP/HT): APIC ID:  1
 ioapic0: Assuming intbase of 0
 ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
 kbd0 at kbdmux0
 ACPI Error: A valid RSDP was not found (20110527/tbxfroot-237)
 ACPI: Table initialisation failed: AE_NOT_FOUND
 ACPI: Try disabling either ACPI or apic support.
 cryptosoft0: software crypto on motherboard
 
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 Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
 
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 The ideal solution will be ZFS with crypto support, but unfortunately this 
 is only available on
 Oracle Sun 5.11 for now.
 
 The GELI is very good, but it is mostly for single device/file image 
 encryption. Each new GELI
 device in the ZFS mirror/RAIDZ configuration will add extra overhead.
 
 GELI on top of ZFS volume/file-backed will be even worse.
 
 You could consider PEFS from ports on top of any ZFS pool. PEFS is a kernel 
 level stacked
 cryptographic filesystem for FreeBSD:
 
 http://www.freshports.org/sysutils/pefs-kmod/
 http://wiki.freebsd.org/PEFS
 https://github.com/glk/pefs
 
 P.S. ZFS RAIDZ1/RAIDZ2 pool is more sophisticated solution than RAID5/RAID6.
 
 Thanks Andriy, I'll read about it. Can I consider this PEFS so stable as GELI 
 ?
 
 thanks,
 
 matheus
 
 -- 
 We will call you Cygnus,
 The God of balance you shall be
 
 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read 

Any options on crypt+zfs ?

2012-04-16 Thread Nenhum_de_Nos
hail,

I have a soekris running an atom and 2GB RAM and ZFS using 7 drives, small 
capacity though, to
test and study if I can make my home server this box and this way. It will be a 
simple server,
three users tops.

I followed the handbook and made the geli step on the disks:

Geom name: label/zfs1.eli
State: ACTIVE
EncryptionAlgorithm: AES-XTS
KeyLength: 128
Crypto: software
UsedKey: 0
Flags: NONE
KeysAllocated: 38
KeysTotal: 38
Providers:
1. Name: label/zfs1.eli
   Mediasize: 160041881600 (149G)
   Sectorsize: 4096
   Mode: r1w1e1
Consumers:
1. Name: label/zfs1
   Mediasize: 160041885184 (149G)
   Sectorsize: 512
   Mode: r1w1e1


all disks are this way (just 4 disks are on geli zfs).

would it be faster, if I had geli over zfs, and not the other way (as is now) ?

my performance is too low (I know the hardware is not that much, but I compared 
it to a friend's
arm based AP-Router gadget and my setup is when much equal. I have 1.6 GHz Atom 
and 2GB ram, he
has not half this ... I know can't compare arm and x86 clock for clock ...)

I'll try to run geli on single disk, to see how much ZFS is impacting on 
performance, but, is
there any other way around ? All I want is RAID5, and FreeBSD has not developed 
RAID5 from GEOM
(AFAIK) since a long time. ZFS is the way people go in recent years.

suggestions are welcome, just want to upgrade my old 8.0 BETA3 using geom 
mirror/stripe to a newer
approach that would be supported by FreeBSD.

I have an external enclosure for 4 SATA disks (port multiplier included) using 
4 disks, another
port multiplier 5x1 using now 3 disks, and:

ahci1@pci0:13:0:0:  class=0x010601 card=0x10601b21 chip=0x06121b21 rev=0x01 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'ASMedia Technology Inc.'
class  = mass storage
subclass   = SATA

with two eSATA to the Port Multipliers.

thanks,

matheus

machine:
ACPI Error: A valid RSDP was not found (20110527/tbxfroot-237)
Copyright (c) 1992-2012 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Wed Apr 11 13:04:15 BRT 2012
root@macgyver:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/net6501-amd64 amd64
ACPI Error: A valid RSDP was not found (20110527/tbxfroot-237)
CPU: Genuine Intel(R) CPU@ 1.60GHz (1600.04-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0x20661  Family = 6  Model = 26  Stepping = 1
  
Features=0xbfe9fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
  
Features2=0x40e3bdSSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE
  AMD Features=0x20100800SYSCALL,NX,LM
  AMD Features2=0x1LAHF
  TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
real memory  = 2147352576 (2047 MB)
avail memory = 2046488576 (1951 MB)
MPTable: Soekris  net6501 
Event timer LAPIC quality 400
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 1 core(s) x 2 HTT threads
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP/HT): APIC ID:  1
ioapic0: Assuming intbase of 0
ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
kbd0 at kbdmux0
ACPI Error: A valid RSDP was not found (20110527/tbxfroot-237)
ACPI: Table initialisation failed: AE_NOT_FOUND
ACPI: Try disabling either ACPI or apic support.
cryptosoft0: software crypto on motherboard

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We will call you Cygnus,
The God of balance you shall be

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
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Re: Any options on crypt+zfs ?

2012-04-16 Thread Andriy Bakay
On 2012-04-16, at 13:32 , Nenhum_de_Nos wrote:

 hail,
 
 I have a soekris running an atom and 2GB RAM and ZFS using 7 drives, small 
 capacity though, to
 test and study if I can make my home server this box and this way. It will be 
 a simple server,
 three users tops.
 
 I followed the handbook and made the geli step on the disks:
 
 Geom name: label/zfs1.eli
 State: ACTIVE
 EncryptionAlgorithm: AES-XTS
 KeyLength: 128
 Crypto: software
 UsedKey: 0
 Flags: NONE
 KeysAllocated: 38
 KeysTotal: 38
 Providers:
 1. Name: label/zfs1.eli
   Mediasize: 160041881600 (149G)
   Sectorsize: 4096
   Mode: r1w1e1
 Consumers:
 1. Name: label/zfs1
   Mediasize: 160041885184 (149G)
   Sectorsize: 512
   Mode: r1w1e1
 
 
 all disks are this way (just 4 disks are on geli zfs).
 
 would it be faster, if I had geli over zfs, and not the other way (as is now) 
 ?
 
 my performance is too low (I know the hardware is not that much, but I 
 compared it to a friend's
 arm based AP-Router gadget and my setup is when much equal. I have 1.6 GHz 
 Atom and 2GB ram, he
 has not half this ... I know can't compare arm and x86 clock for clock ...)
 
 I'll try to run geli on single disk, to see how much ZFS is impacting on 
 performance, but, is
 there any other way around ? All I want is RAID5, and FreeBSD has not 
 developed RAID5 from GEOM
 (AFAIK) since a long time. ZFS is the way people go in recent years.
 
 suggestions are welcome, just want to upgrade my old 8.0 BETA3 using geom 
 mirror/stripe to a newer
 approach that would be supported by FreeBSD.
 
 I have an external enclosure for 4 SATA disks (port multiplier included) 
 using 4 disks, another
 port multiplier 5x1 using now 3 disks, and:
 
 ahci1@pci0:13:0:0:class=0x010601 card=0x10601b21 chip=0x06121b21 rev=0x01 
 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'ASMedia Technology Inc.'
class  = mass storage
subclass   = SATA
 
 with two eSATA to the Port Multipliers.
 
 thanks,
 
 matheus
 
 machine:
 ACPI Error: A valid RSDP was not found (20110527/tbxfroot-237)
 Copyright (c) 1992-2012 The FreeBSD Project.
 Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
   The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
 FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
 FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Wed Apr 11 13:04:15 BRT 2012
root@macgyver:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/net6501-amd64 amd64
 ACPI Error: A valid RSDP was not found (20110527/tbxfroot-237)
 CPU: Genuine Intel(R) CPU@ 1.60GHz (1600.04-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0x20661  Family = 6  Model = 26  Stepping = 1
  
 Features=0xbfe9fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
  
 Features2=0x40e3bdSSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE
  AMD Features=0x20100800SYSCALL,NX,LM
  AMD Features2=0x1LAHF
  TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
 real memory  = 2147352576 (2047 MB)
 avail memory = 2046488576 (1951 MB)
 MPTable: Soekris  net6501 
 Event timer LAPIC quality 400
 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
 FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 1 core(s) x 2 HTT threads
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP/HT): APIC ID:  1
 ioapic0: Assuming intbase of 0
 ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
 kbd0 at kbdmux0
 ACPI Error: A valid RSDP was not found (20110527/tbxfroot-237)
 ACPI: Table initialisation failed: AE_NOT_FOUND
 ACPI: Try disabling either ACPI or apic support.
 cryptosoft0: software crypto on motherboard
 
 -- 
 We will call you Cygnus,
 The God of balance you shall be
 
 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
 Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
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The ideal solution will be ZFS with crypto support, but unfortunately this is 
only available on Oracle Sun 5.11 for now.

The GELI is very good, but it is mostly for single device/file image 
encryption. Each new GELI device in the ZFS mirror/RAIDZ configuration will add 
extra overhead.

GELI on top of ZFS volume/file-backed will be even worse.

You could consider PEFS from ports on top of any ZFS pool. PEFS is a kernel 
level stacked cryptographic filesystem for FreeBSD:

http://www.freshports.org/sysutils/pefs-kmod/
http://wiki.freebsd.org/PEFS
https://github.com/glk/pefs

P.S. ZFS RAIDZ1/RAIDZ2 pool is more sophisticated solution than RAID5/RAID6.

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Re: Any options on crypt+zfs ?

2012-04-16 Thread Nenhum_de_Nos

On Mon, April 16, 2012 22:42, Andriy Bakay wrote:
 On 2012-04-16, at 13:32 , Nenhum_de_Nos wrote:

 hail,

 I have a soekris running an atom and 2GB RAM and ZFS using 7 drives, small 
 capacity though, to
 test and study if I can make my home server this box and this way. It will 
 be a simple server,
 three users tops.

 I followed the handbook and made the geli step on the disks:

 Geom name: label/zfs1.eli
 State: ACTIVE
 EncryptionAlgorithm: AES-XTS
 KeyLength: 128
 Crypto: software
 UsedKey: 0
 Flags: NONE
 KeysAllocated: 38
 KeysTotal: 38
 Providers:
 1. Name: label/zfs1.eli
   Mediasize: 160041881600 (149G)
   Sectorsize: 4096
   Mode: r1w1e1
 Consumers:
 1. Name: label/zfs1
   Mediasize: 160041885184 (149G)
   Sectorsize: 512
   Mode: r1w1e1


 all disks are this way (just 4 disks are on geli zfs).

 would it be faster, if I had geli over zfs, and not the other way (as is 
 now) ?

 my performance is too low (I know the hardware is not that much, but I 
 compared it to a friend's
 arm based AP-Router gadget and my setup is when much equal. I have 1.6 GHz 
 Atom and 2GB ram, he
 has not half this ... I know can't compare arm and x86 clock for clock ...)

 I'll try to run geli on single disk, to see how much ZFS is impacting on 
 performance, but, is
 there any other way around ? All I want is RAID5, and FreeBSD has not 
 developed RAID5 from GEOM
 (AFAIK) since a long time. ZFS is the way people go in recent years.

 suggestions are welcome, just want to upgrade my old 8.0 BETA3 using geom 
 mirror/stripe to a
 newer
 approach that would be supported by FreeBSD.

 I have an external enclosure for 4 SATA disks (port multiplier included) 
 using 4 disks, another
 port multiplier 5x1 using now 3 disks, and:

 ahci1@pci0:13:0:0:   class=0x010601 card=0x10601b21 chip=0x06121b21 rev=0x01 
 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'ASMedia Technology Inc.'
class  = mass storage
subclass   = SATA

 with two eSATA to the Port Multipliers.

 thanks,

 matheus

 machine:
 ACPI Error: A valid RSDP was not found (20110527/tbxfroot-237)
 Copyright (c) 1992-2012 The FreeBSD Project.
 Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
  The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
 FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
 FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Wed Apr 11 13:04:15 BRT 2012
root@macgyver:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/net6501-amd64 amd64
 ACPI Error: A valid RSDP was not found (20110527/tbxfroot-237)
 CPU: Genuine Intel(R) CPU@ 1.60GHz (1600.04-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0x20661  Family = 6  Model = 26  Stepping = 1
  
 Features=0xbfe9fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
  
 Features2=0x40e3bdSSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE
  AMD Features=0x20100800SYSCALL,NX,LM
  AMD Features2=0x1LAHF
  TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics
 real memory  = 2147352576 (2047 MB)
 avail memory = 2046488576 (1951 MB)
 MPTable: Soekris  net6501 
 Event timer LAPIC quality 400
 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
 FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 1 core(s) x 2 HTT threads
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP/HT): APIC ID:  1
 ioapic0: Assuming intbase of 0
 ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
 kbd0 at kbdmux0
 ACPI Error: A valid RSDP was not found (20110527/tbxfroot-237)
 ACPI: Table initialisation failed: AE_NOT_FOUND
 ACPI: Try disabling either ACPI or apic support.
 cryptosoft0: software crypto on motherboard

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 The ideal solution will be ZFS with crypto support, but unfortunately this is 
 only available on
 Oracle Sun 5.11 for now.

 The GELI is very good, but it is mostly for single device/file image 
 encryption. Each new GELI
 device in the ZFS mirror/RAIDZ configuration will add extra overhead.

 GELI on top of ZFS volume/file-backed will be even worse.

 You could consider PEFS from ports on top of any ZFS pool. PEFS is a kernel 
 level stacked
 cryptographic filesystem for FreeBSD:

 http://www.freshports.org/sysutils/pefs-kmod/
 http://wiki.freebsd.org/PEFS
 https://github.com/glk/pefs

 P.S. ZFS RAIDZ1/RAIDZ2 pool is more sophisticated solution than RAID5/RAID6.

Thanks Andriy, I'll read about it. Can I consider this PEFS so stable as GELI ?

thanks,

matheus

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