Re: Broken world -- ipnat
On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 08:20:48PM -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote: > On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 11:17:58PM -0400, Chris BeHanna wrote: > > On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > [...reasons why cvsup might leave cruft...] > > > > And "cvs update" with the "-Pd" switches should keep your source > > > > tree clean. > > > Not necessarily. It doesn't remove extra files like object files (but > > > it does note them if you're paying attention). > > > > Not by default. .o is in the "ignore by default" list. > > Yes, but in this case we were discussing broken buildworlds, and the > .o files should all be living under /usr/obj (or wherever that's > linked to). I often run into weird kernel module build problems because I've compiled something in sys/modules by hand, and it gets stale and then gets in the way of kernel compiles. There's probably a bug lurking in there somewhere. Kris PGP signature
Re: Broken world -- ipnat
On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 11:17:58PM -0400, Chris BeHanna wrote: > On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > [...reasons why cvsup might leave cruft...] > > > And "cvs update" with the "-Pd" switches should keep your source > > > tree clean. > > Not necessarily. It doesn't remove extra files like object files (but > > it does note them if you're paying attention). > > Not by default. .o is in the "ignore by default" list. Yes, but in this case we were discussing broken buildworlds, and the .o files should all be living under /usr/obj (or wherever that's linked to). -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: Broken world -- ipnat
On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: > [...reasons why cvsup might leave cruft...] > > > And "cvs update" with the "-Pd" switches should keep your source > > tree clean. > > Not necessarily. It doesn't remove extra files like object files (but > it does note them if you're paying attention). Not by default. .o is in the "ignore by default" list. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: Broken world -- ipnat
On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 05:55:17PM -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote: > On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 02:27:15PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 11:16:18PM +0200, Nicolas Grieco wrote: > >> Does anyone has the answer for this ? > > Probably you have stale object files in your /usr/src or /usr/obj. > > This is an increasingly popular answer to builds that fail. Perhaps > we should look a little more deeply into how that can happen in the > first place. > > I mean, a buildworld sets off on a flurry of file removals when it > starts up. Why would it miss some? Because files were moved around in the source tree (in this case, ipfilter moved), and: 1) Some people may have old object files corresponding to the previous location of the moved source, which are getting in the way of the new compile due to makefiles which pick up the old objects in favour of the new ones. That's what I was postulating as the problem here (it's also known to be the cause of certain other signatures of compilation failure dying in ipfilter). 2) Some people may have cvsup metadata files which are out of sync with their sources (caused by e.g. installing old release sources and then immediately cvsupping to a later release which has some of those files removed), and which will cause cvsup to not delete the files which are no longer there. The solution to this is described in the cvsup FAQ and involves a two-stage process of first "adopting" your extracted source tree, and then updating it. Both of these can cause things to break, and do cause breakage sometimes in practise. Could it be worked around? Probably..if anyone cares to, please send patches. > And "cvs update" with the "-Pd" switches should keep your source > tree clean. Not necessarily. It doesn't remove extra files like object files (but it does note them if you're paying attention). Kris PGP signature
