Re: Click on to meet someone you Click with
> Also remember that a great deal of spam (at least most of the stuff that > comes to me) has my name as a greeting in the body, or in the subject > line. It would be trivial to automate the process of adding > [freebsd-stable] to the front of the subject line when the message is > sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This would have us all working extra > for no reason. I find that the most effective way to deal with spam is look at the headers and mail abuse@ every server in the list. I find that most isps take care of it(or atleast say they do) I think someone mentioned this. Once people started to get their accounts deleted a few times, they might stop it To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: Click on to meet someone you Click with
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 07:20:13PM -0500, ben hubbard wrote: > This may be way out of left field, but I was thinking about it last night > > Would it be possible to filter the mail in anyway with the mail list software > at freebsd.org based on the subject lines? For example, for this message, the > subject line would be > > Subject: [freebsd-stable] Re: Click on to meet someone you Click with > > or some variant. If it didn't have the [freebsd-stable] (change for whatever > the list address was) then the the reply bounces with a polite "you need to > put in your subject line" message to the original sender. This would > stop the spam (since they usually have specific subject lines) and it would > also (added bonus) make it easier for those of us that filter the incoming > traffic from multiple lists to plop it all in the right folders. > > the flip side is that this adds complication. But is it really all that bad? > If someone has to go find out the list address already anyway, they can read > another line about the subject line, or worse, they just get the bounce back > and get to send it again. Might also stop the various subscribe messages that > end up in the list, too ;-) > > Of course, this may not be possible with the lsitserv software - it's not > something I've ever worked with to any great extent before. With mutt, to reply to this message, I press "g", hit enter, hit enter again, press "y", then type my response. In order to get a "[freebsd-stable] Re: ..." subject, I would have to press "g", hit enter, hold down the arrow keys until it reaches the front of the subject line, type "[freebsd-stable]", hit enter, press "y", then type my response. The arrows and addition more than quadruple the time it takes me to start typing a response. Plus, I would have to clean up old subjects, lest to get "[freebsd-stable] Re: [freebsd-stable] Re: [freebsd-stable] ..." ad nauseum. What you would find after a short time is that the most helpful people--the people who answer many questions every day--will stop responding as frequently. The overall usefulness of the list will decline. Also remember that a great deal of spam (at least most of the stuff that comes to me) has my name as a greeting in the body, or in the subject line. It would be trivial to automate the process of adding [freebsd-stable] to the front of the subject line when the message is sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This would have us all working extra for no reason. -- Andrew Hesford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: Click on to meet someone you Click with
This may be way out of left field, but I was thinking about it last night Would it be possible to filter the mail in anyway with the mail list software at freebsd.org based on the subject lines? For example, for this message, the subject line would be Subject: [freebsd-stable] Re: Click on to meet someone you Click with or some variant. If it didn't have the [freebsd-stable] (change for whatever the list address was) then the the reply bounces with a polite "you need to put in your subject line" message to the original sender. This would stop the spam (since they usually have specific subject lines) and it would also (added bonus) make it easier for those of us that filter the incoming traffic from multiple lists to plop it all in the right folders. the flip side is that this adds complication. But is it really all that bad? If someone has to go find out the list address already anyway, they can read another line about the subject line, or worse, they just get the bounce back and get to send it again. Might also stop the various subscribe messages that end up in the list, too ;-) Of course, this may not be possible with the lsitserv software - it's not something I've ever worked with to any great extent before. Juha Saarinen wrote: > On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, Chris Byrnes wrote: > > > I really hate posting stuff like this, but does anyone else see an > > increasing number of the BS? > > There's been an increasing number of spam from UK sources (this particular > one came from btinternet). Think it's because ISPs there are reluctant to > pull the plug on spammers -- maybe for legal reasons. Seen it on other > lists than the FreeBSD ones. > > -- > Regards, > > Juha > > PGP fingerprint: > B7E1 CC52 5FCA 9756 B502 10C8 4CD8 B066 12F3 9544 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: Click on to meet someone you Click with
On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, Andrew Hesford wrote: > Yes, I see more crap. And I agree we should make the list unpostable to > those who aren't subscribed. It would unfortunately reduce the list's usefulness... some people participate via the newsgroups. > Being a young, firey student with time to kill, I usually send harsh > letters back, occassionally with large binary attachments. Then I toss > some identifying info in my procmail filter, which returns these > messages with a notice, and drops them from my system. Don't do that. You'll end up being either blocked, or you'll lose your Internet access. There's no point in fighting 'Net abuse with more 'Net abuse. Instead, complain to the ISPs. Use abuse.net to forward your complaints to the right people. Filtering doesn't work... you might not see the spam in your inbox, but it still hits your account. Because it gets delivered, and no complaints are filed, your address is deemed as "live" by the spammers, and will end up on even more Spamware "Millions of Clean Opt-In Addresses" CDs. -- Regards, Juha PGP fingerprint: B7E1 CC52 5FCA 9756 B502 10C8 4CD8 B066 12F3 9544 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
Re: Click on to meet someone you Click with
On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, Chris Byrnes wrote: > I really hate posting stuff like this, but does anyone else see an > increasing number of the BS? There's been an increasing number of spam from UK sources (this particular one came from btinternet). Think it's because ISPs there are reluctant to pull the plug on spammers -- maybe for legal reasons. Seen it on other lists than the FreeBSD ones. -- Regards, Juha PGP fingerprint: B7E1 CC52 5FCA 9756 B502 10C8 4CD8 B066 12F3 9544 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
