FreeBSD 6.1 Released

2006-05-08 Thread Scott Long
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It is my great pleasure and privilege to announce the availability of
FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE.  This release is the next step in the development
of the 6.X branch, delivering several performance improvements, many
bugfixes, and a few new features.  These include:

~ Addition of a keyboard multiplexer.  This allows USB and PS/2 keyboards
  to coexist without any special options at boot.
~ Many fixes for filesystem stability.  High load stress tests are now run
  successfully on a regular basis as part of the normal FreeBSD QA process.
~ Automatic configuration for man Bluetooth devices, as well as automatic
  support for running WiFi access points.
~ Addition of drivers for new ethernet and SAS and SATA RAID controllers.
~ BIND updated to 9.3.2
~ sendmail updated to 8.13.6

NOTE: It was discovered at the last minute that the errata notes that were
packaged with the release are out of date.  For a complete list of known
problems, please see the online errata list, available at:

http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/6.1R/errata.html

For more information about FreeBSD release engineering activities,
please see:

http://www.FreeBSD.org/releng

 Availability
 -

FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE supports the i386, pc98, alpha, sparc64, amd64,
powerpc, and ia64 architectures and can be installed directly over the
net using bootable media or copied to a local NFS/FTP server.
Distributions for all architectures are available now.

Please continue to support the FreeBSD Project by purchasing media
from one of our supporting vendors.  The following companies will be
offering FreeBSD 6.1 based products:

~   FreeBSD Mall, Inc.http://www.freebsdmall.com/
~   Daemonnews, Inc.  http://www.bsdmall.com/freebsd1.html

If you can't afford FreeBSD on media, are impatient, or just want to
use it for evangelism purposes, then by all means download the ISO
images.  We can't promise that all the mirror sites will carry the
larger ISO images, but they will at least be available from the
following sites.  MD5 and SHA256 checksums for the release images are
included at the bottom of this message.

 Bittorrent
 --

The FreeBSD project encourages the use of BitTorrent for distributing
the release ISO images.  A collection of torrent files to download the
images is available at

http://torrents.freebsd.org:8080/

 FTP
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At the time of this announcement the following FTP sites have FreeBSD
6.1-RELEASE available.

ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
ftp://ftp2.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
ftp://ftp3.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
ftp://ftp5.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
ftp://ftp.at.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
ftp://ftp2.ch.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
ftp://ftp.cz.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
ftp://ftp.ee.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
ftp://ftp.fi.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
ftp://ftp.fr.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
ftp://ftp2.ie.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
ftp://ftp.is.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
ftp://ftp1.ru.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
ftp://ftp.se.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
ftp://ftp.si.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
ftp://ftp2.tw.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
ftp://ftp2.uk.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
ftp://ftp2.us.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/
ftp://ftp5.us.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/

FreeBSD is also available via anonymous FTP from mirror sites in the
following countries: Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Bulgaria, Canada,
China, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany,
Hong Kong, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Japan, Korea, Lithuania,
Amylonia, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Poland, Portugal, Romania,
Russia, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, Slovak Republic, Slovenia, Spain,
Sweden, Taiwan, Thailand, Ukraine, and the United Kingdom.

Before trying the central FTP site, please check your regional
mirror(s) first by going to:

ftp://ftp..FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD

Any additional mirror sites will be labeled ftp2, ftp3 and so on.

More information about FreeBSD mirror sites can be found at:

http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html

For instructions on installing FreeBSD, please see Chapter 2 of The
FreeBSD Handbook.  It provides a complete installation walk-through
for users new to FreeBSD, and can be found online at:

http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html

 Acknowledgments
 

Many companies donated equipment, network access, or man-hours to
finance the release engineering activities for FreeBSD 6.1 including
The FreeBSD Foundation, FreeBSD Systems, Hewlett-Packard, Yahoo!,
Sentex Communications, and Copan Systems.

The release engineering team for 6.1-RELEASE includes:

Scott Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Release Engineering,
Ken Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>I386, AMD64, Sparc64 Release Building,
Mirror Site Coordination
Robert Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Release Engineering, Security
Doug White <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: FreeBSD 6.1 Released

2006-05-08 Thread Julian Elischer

Scott Long wrote:




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It is my great pleasure and privilege to announce the availability of
FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE.  This release is the next step in the development
of the 6.X branch, delivering several performance improvements, many
bugfixes, and a few new features.  These include:

~ Addition of a keyboard multiplexer.  This allows USB and PS/2 keyboards
 to coexist without any special options at boot.
~ Many fixes for filesystem stability.  High load stress tests are now run
 successfully on a regular basis as part of the normal FreeBSD QA process.
~ Automatic configuration for man Bluetooth devices, as well as automatic

 



  s/man/many


 support for running WiFi access points.
~ Addition of drivers for new ethernet and SAS and SATA RAID controllers.
~ BIND updated to 9.3.2
~ sendmail updated to 8.13.6

NOTE: It was discovered at the last minute that the errata notes that were
packaged with the release are out of date.  For a complete list of known
problems, please see the online errata list, available at:

   http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/6.1R/errata.html
 



the above points to a filel that says "6.0 errata"

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Re: FreeBSD 6.1 Released

2006-05-08 Thread Mike Jakubik

Julian Elischer wrote:

Scott Long wrote:




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It is my great pleasure and privilege to announce the availability of
FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE.  This release is the next step in the development
of the 6.X branch, delivering several performance improvements, many
bugfixes, and a few new features.  These include:

~ Addition of a keyboard multiplexer.  This allows USB and PS/2 
keyboards

 to coexist without any special options at boot.
~ Many fixes for filesystem stability.  High load stress tests are 
now run
 successfully on a regular basis as part of the normal FreeBSD QA 
process.
~ Automatic configuration for man Bluetooth devices, as well as 
automatic


 



  s/man/many


 support for running WiFi access points.
~ Addition of drivers for new ethernet and SAS and SATA RAID 
controllers.

~ BIND updated to 9.3.2
~ sendmail updated to 8.13.6

NOTE: It was discovered at the last minute that the errata notes that 
were

packaged with the release are out of date.  For a complete list of known
problems, please see the online errata list, available at:

   http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/6.1R/errata.html
 



the above points to a filel that says "6.0 errata"


Indeed. Where is the mention of current quota/bge/em/ufs problems? Don't 
tell me these will be shoved under the rug.


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Re: FreeBSD 6.1 Released

2006-05-08 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Tue, 09 May 2006 01:00:14 -0400
Mike Jakubik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Indeed. Where is the mention of current quota/bge/em/ufs problems?
> Don't tell me these will be shoved under the rug.

Oh, please.
Allow the team a few minutes (at least!) to get the right
errata in place before complaining.
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Re: FreeBSD 6.1 Released

2006-05-08 Thread Mike Jakubik

Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:

On Tue, 09 May 2006 01:00:14 -0400
Mike Jakubik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

Indeed. Where is the mention of current quota/bge/em/ufs problems?
Don't tell me these will be shoved under the rug.



Oh, please.
Allow the team a few minutes (at least!) to get the right
errata in place before complaining.


Am I anally retentive or what?

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Re: FreeBSD 6.1 Released

2006-05-09 Thread Mike Tancsa

At 11:19 PM 08/05/2006, Scott Long wrote:

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It is my great pleasure and privilege to announce the availability of
FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE.  This release is the next step in the development
of the 6.X branch, delivering several performance improvements, many
bugfixes, and a few new features.  These include:


Congratulations Scott and the RE team!  We have a number of 6.1ish 
boxes (UP and SMP) in production being brutalized with spam and 
virual analysis and they are working great!


---Mike 


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Re: FreeBSD 6.1 Released

2006-05-11 Thread Simon L. Nielsen
On 2006.05.09 01:00:14 -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote:
> Julian Elischer wrote:
[...]
> >the above points to a filel that says "6.0 errata"
> 
> Indeed. Where is the mention of current quota/bge/em/ufs problems? Don't 
> tell me these will be shoved under the rug.

Send patches.

-- 
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Re: FreeBSD 6.1 Released

2006-05-11 Thread Mike Jakubik

Simon L. Nielsen wrote:

On 2006.05.09 01:00:14 -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote:
  

Julian Elischer wrote:


[...]
  

the above points to a filel that says "6.0 errata"
  
Indeed. Where is the mention of current quota/bge/em/ufs problems? Don't 
tell me these will be shoved under the rug.



Send patches.
  


Patches? For what? It's too late now, 6.1 has been released. I sent 
reminders to the RE team and i made it quite clear on the lists that the 
quota issue should be described in the relnotes/errata before the 
release. If the RE team chooses to ignore major bugs and pretend all is 
fine and dandy, then there is not much patches will do. Heck, im still 
waiting for Scott to personally fix the problems, as he so graciously 
offered, but couldn't deliver. I offered to work with him and provide 
help, he never replied to my emails.



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Re: FreeBSD 6.1 Released

2006-05-11 Thread Simon L. Nielsen
On 2006.05.11 20:53:42 -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote:
> Simon L. Nielsen wrote:
> >On 2006.05.09 01:00:14 -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote:
> >  
> >>Julian Elischer wrote:
> >>
> >[...]
> >  
> >>>the above points to a filel that says "6.0 errata"
> >>>  
> >>Indeed. Where is the mention of current quota/bge/em/ufs problems? Don't 
> >>tell me these will be shoved under the rug.
> >>
> >
> >Send patches.
> >  
> 
> Patches? For what? [...]

For the errata page, which was what the above text mentioned.

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Re: FreeBSD 6.1 Released

2006-05-11 Thread Mark Kirkwood

Mike Jakubik wrote:

Patches? For what? It's too late now, 6.1 has been released. I sent 
reminders to the RE team and i made it quite clear on the lists that the 
quota issue should be described in the relnotes/errata before the 
release. If the RE team chooses to ignore major bugs and pretend all is 
fine and dandy, then there is not much patches will do. Heck, im still 
waiting for Scott to personally fix the problems, as he so graciously 
offered, but couldn't deliver. I offered to work with him and provide 
help, he never replied to my emails.


I'm almost afraid to enter into this discussion (puts on flame suit), 
but might it be better to gently encourage the re/development team to 
make some of these a priority for 6.2? (as that gives everyone more lead 
time, and in the end what we all want is FreeBSD to steadily improve).


Cheers

Mark
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Re: FreeBSD 6.1 Released

2006-05-11 Thread Jonathan Noack
On 05/11/06 20:53, Mike Jakubik wrote:
> Simon L. Nielsen wrote:
>> On 2006.05.09 01:00:14 -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote:
>>> Julian Elischer wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
 the above points to a filel that says "6.0 errata"

>>> Indeed. Where is the mention of current quota/bge/em/ufs problems?
>>> Don't tell me these will be shoved under the rug.
>>
>> Send patches.
>
> Patches? For what? It's too late now, 6.1 has been released. I sent
> reminders to the RE team and i made it quite clear on the lists that the
> quota issue should be described in the relnotes/errata before the
> release. If the RE team chooses to ignore major bugs and pretend all is
> fine and dandy, then there is not much patches will do. Heck, im still
> waiting for Scott to personally fix the problems, as he so graciously
> offered, but couldn't deliver. I offered to work with him and provide
> help, he never replied to my emails.

The *entire* errata page was from 6.0; it was a mistake.  This wasn't
some "put on the rose-colored classes and gloss over major issues"
thing.  It was a long release cycle and something was forgotten.  C'est
la vie.  It's always a good idea to check the most up-to-date version of
the errata page on the web anyway, so it's *not* too late to update it.

So, you're still waiting for Scott to personally fix the problems and he
couldn't deliver?  Huh?  I quote you
(http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2006-May/025209.html):
"Scott, thanks for the very generous gesture, but i cant ask you
something like this."

-Jonathan

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Re: FreeBSD 6.1 Released

2006-05-11 Thread Mike Jakubik

Jonathan Noack wrote:

The *entire* errata page was from 6.0; it was a mistake.  This wasn't
some "put on the rose-colored classes and gloss over major issues"
thing.  It was a long release cycle and something was forgotten.  C'est
la vie.  It's always a good idea to check the most up-to-date version of
the errata page on the web anyway, so it's *not* too late to update it.

  


How convenient. These problems needed to be addressed in the release 
notes, not some on line version.



So, you're still waiting for Scott to personally fix the problems and he
couldn't deliver?  Huh?  I quote you
(http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2006-May/025209.html):
"Scott, thanks for the very generous gesture, but i cant ask you
something like this."
  


He emailed me personally, i accepted his help offer, never heard from 
him since.


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Re: FreeBSD 6.1 Released

2006-05-11 Thread Scott Long

Mike Jakubik wrote:


Jonathan Noack wrote:


The *entire* errata page was from 6.0; it was a mistake.  This wasn't
some "put on the rose-colored classes and gloss over major issues"
thing.  It was a long release cycle and something was forgotten.  C'est
la vie.  It's always a good idea to check the most up-to-date version of
the errata page on the web anyway, so it's *not* too late to update it.

  



How convenient. These problems needed to be addressed in the release 
notes, not some on line version.



So, you're still waiting for Scott to personally fix the problems and he
couldn't deliver?  Huh?  I quote you
(http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2006-May/025209.html):
"Scott, thanks for the very generous gesture, but i cant ask you
something like this."
  



He emailed me personally, i accepted his help offer, never heard from 
him since.




Sorry, things got lost in the shuffle to get this released.  For your
specific snapshot deadlocks, please test the changes that have gone into
7-CURRENT and report back if they fix your problem.  Only with active 
testing will we know if they are good to be backported in time for 6.2.


Scott

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Re: FreeBSD 6.1 Released

2006-05-11 Thread J. T. farmer

Mike Jakubik wrote:

Jonathan Noack wrote:

The *entire* errata page was from 6.0; it was a mistake.  This wasn't
some "put on the rose-colored classes and gloss over major issues"
thing.  It was a long release cycle and something was forgotten.  C'est
la vie.  It's always a good idea to check the most up-to-date version of
the errata page on the web anyway, so it's *not* too late to update 
it.   
How convenient. These problems needed to be addressed in the release 
notes, not some on line version.

*Plonk*

You've just entered into my "do not read" bucket.  If you can't see
that errors occur, then I pity _anyone_ who codes for you...  Or
perhaps you never make a mistake.  That must be it.

John

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Re: FreeBSD 6.1 Released

2006-05-11 Thread David Nugent

J. T. farmer wrote:


Mike Jakubik wrote:


Jonathan Noack wrote:


The *entire* errata page was from 6.0; it was a mistake.  This wasn't
some "put on the rose-colored classes and gloss over major issues"
thing.  It was a long release cycle and something was forgotten.  C'est
la vie.  It's always a good idea to check the most up-to-date 
version of
the errata page on the web anyway, so it's *not* too late to update 
it.   


How convenient. These problems needed to be addressed in the release 
notes, not some on line version.


*Plonk*

You've just entered into my "do not read" bucket.  If you can't see
that errors occur, then I pity _anyone_ who codes for you...  Or
perhaps you never make a mistake.  That must be it.



While I tend to agree with regards to poor attitude (see similar threads 
in almost any open source forum on the topic of "demanding" anything 
from a volunteer project), Mike is obviously quite passionate about and 
has the interests of FreeBSD at heart, and for that I cannot blame him 
at all. He seems to have a disagreement with handling of the release 
process, which is the same recurring issue every time there is a release 
and probably the #1 cause of burnout with the Release Engineer of the day.


Historically, you can see that the current process works though, even if 
it may not produce the 100% perfect -RELEASE it at least guards against 
more serious problems that have happened in the past that were 
introduced by last minute and untested changes.



Regards,
David


PS: cc -hackers removed
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Re: FreeBSD 6.1 Released

2006-05-12 Thread Matthias Andree
Mike Jakubik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Jonathan Noack wrote:
>> The *entire* errata page was from 6.0; it was a mistake.  This wasn't
>> some "put on the rose-colored classes and gloss over major issues"
>> thing.  It was a long release cycle and something was forgotten.  C'est
>> la vie.  It's always a good idea to check the most up-to-date version of
>> the errata page on the web anyway, so it's *not* too late to update it.
>>
>>
>
> How convenient. These problems needed to be addressed in the release
> notes, not some on line version.

You lost connection to the ground, Mike. Come back please :-)

People make mistakes, and that applies to both the code as to the
documentation, and users will know that sometimes problems will be found
only after the release so they'll check online later when running into a
problem.  The 6.1 release announcement already mentioned the errata
lapsus BTW and asked people to check on-line, so it appears someone's
asking for perfection -- but it was decided months ago to stick to a
schedule rather than making perfect releases.

Having said that, 6.1 is a real and visible improvement over 6.0 for me.
6.1 is usable, where 6.0 toppled over every few minutes (I'm talking
about ral(4) and other nasty stuff such as tmpfs/mdmfs panics in 6.0 -
ral(4) is what prompted me to do the 5.4->6.0 upgrade).

-- 
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Re: FreeBSD 6.1 Released

2006-05-12 Thread Chris

On 12/05/06, Matthias Andree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Mike Jakubik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Jonathan Noack wrote:
>> The *entire* errata page was from 6.0; it was a mistake.  This wasn't
>> some "put on the rose-colored classes and gloss over major issues"
>> thing.  It was a long release cycle and something was forgotten.  C'est
>> la vie.  It's always a good idea to check the most up-to-date version of
>> the errata page on the web anyway, so it's *not* too late to update it.
>>
>>
>
> How convenient. These problems needed to be addressed in the release
> notes, not some on line version.

You lost connection to the ground, Mike. Come back please :-)

People make mistakes, and that applies to both the code as to the
documentation, and users will know that sometimes problems will be found
only after the release so they'll check online later when running into a
problem.  The 6.1 release announcement already mentioned the errata
lapsus BTW and asked people to check on-line, so it appears someone's
asking for perfection -- but it was decided months ago to stick to a
schedule rather than making perfect releases.

Having said that, 6.1 is a real and visible improvement over 6.0 for me.
6.1 is usable, where 6.0 toppled over every few minutes (I'm talking
about ral(4) and other nasty stuff such as tmpfs/mdmfs panics in 6.0 -
ral(4) is what prompted me to do the 5.4->6.0 upgrade).

--
Matthias Andree


agreed whilst 6.1 isnt bug free lets not forget its a massive
improvement over 6.0 in terms of stability, I still havent seen a
lockup/crash on any of my 6.1 servers and they are all prerelease.

It did shock me tho they didnt simply repackage the 6.1 release with
updated errata notes it will look amatuerish to have outdated notes in
the package.

Chris
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Re: FreeBSD 6.1 Released

2006-05-12 Thread Scott Long

Chris wrote:


On 12/05/06, Matthias Andree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Mike Jakubik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Jonathan Noack wrote:
>> The *entire* errata page was from 6.0; it was a mistake.  This wasn't
>> some "put on the rose-colored classes and gloss over major issues"
>> thing.  It was a long release cycle and something was forgotten.  
C'est
>> la vie.  It's always a good idea to check the most up-to-date 
version of
>> the errata page on the web anyway, so it's *not* too late to update 
it.

>>
>>
>
> How convenient. These problems needed to be addressed in the release
> notes, not some on line version.

You lost connection to the ground, Mike. Come back please :-)

People make mistakes, and that applies to both the code as to the
documentation, and users will know that sometimes problems will be found
only after the release so they'll check online later when running into a
problem.  The 6.1 release announcement already mentioned the errata
lapsus BTW and asked people to check on-line, so it appears someone's
asking for perfection -- but it was decided months ago to stick to a
schedule rather than making perfect releases.

Having said that, 6.1 is a real and visible improvement over 6.0 for me.
6.1 is usable, where 6.0 toppled over every few minutes (I'm talking
about ral(4) and other nasty stuff such as tmpfs/mdmfs panics in 6.0 -
ral(4) is what prompted me to do the 5.4->6.0 upgrade).

--
Matthias Andree



agreed whilst 6.1 isnt bug free lets not forget its a massive
improvement over 6.0 in terms of stability, I still havent seen a
lockup/crash on any of my 6.1 servers and they are all prerelease.

It did shock me tho they didnt simply repackage the 6.1 release with
updated errata notes it will look amatuerish to have outdated notes in
the package.

Chris


We didn't discover it until the last minute, and repackaging takes 3
days.

Scott


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Re: FreeBSD 6.1 Released

2006-05-12 Thread Mike Jakubik

Scott Long wrote:

Sorry, things got lost in the shuffle to get this released.  For your
specific snapshot deadlocks, please test the changes that have gone into
7-CURRENT and report back if they fix your problem.  Only with active 
testing will we know if they are good to be backported in time for 6.2.


I'll install -CURRENT on a test box and give it a whirl, will report 
back soon.


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