Re: FreeBSD 8 GPT install, how?

2009-12-15 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 03:03:29 -0600
Scot Hetzel swhet...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you have a look at the Root On ZFS tutorial, it shows how to create
 a GPT formated system from the Fixit environment:
 
 http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS

Just FYI, this tutorial worked nicely with the memtick image,
installing on a amd64 machine.
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Re: FreeBSD 8 GPT install, how?

2009-12-15 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:54:06 +0100
Torfinn Ingolfsen torfinn.ingolf...@broadpark.no wrote:

 On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 03:03:29 -0600
 Scot Hetzel swhet...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  If you have a look at the Root On ZFS tutorial, it shows how to
  create a GPT formated system from the Fixit environment:
  
  http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS
 
 Just FYI, this tutorial worked nicely with the memtick image,

s/memtick/memstick/

sigh.
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Re: FreeBSD 8 GPT install, how?

2009-12-08 Thread Steven Hartland

Hmm none of these instructions seem to work as the step where I need to do the
install but the live cd doesnt contain /dist/8.0* hence I cant complete.

How did people work around this?

   Regards
   Steve

- Original Message - 
From: Tom Evans 


On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Ollivier Robert
robe...@keltia.freenix.fr wrote:

According to Steven Hartland:


I've found a number things articles on how to achieve this on previous
versions, but they are all quite complex and was hoping there was a nice
easy way on 8.0 given the improvements listed in the release notes.

Any pointers?


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http://www.keltia.net/howtos/zfsboot



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Re: FreeBSD 8 GPT install, how?

2009-12-08 Thread Ollivier Robert

According to Steven Hartland:

Hmm none of these instructions seem to work as the step where I need to do the
install but the live cd doesnt contain /dist/8.0* hence I cant complete.

How did people work around this?


Use the dvd1 or the bootonly ISO image.  The former is easier as it has more 
packages but the latter ought to be enough.

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Re: FreeBSD 8 GPT install, how?

2009-12-08 Thread Steven Hartland

Thanks to all those who responded the missing piece of data was indeed
you MUST use the DVD, the CD which mentioned in several places simply
doesn't work as it doesn't have the required files.

It also still shocks me that the emergency holographic shell still
doesn't have mount_ufs which pretty much makes it useless :(

   Regards
   Steve
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From: Ollivier Robert



According to Steven Hartland:

Hmm none of these instructions seem to work as the step where I need to do the
install but the live cd doesnt contain /dist/8.0* hence I cant complete.

How did people work around this?


Use the dvd1 or the bootonly ISO image.  The former is easier as it has more
packages but the latter ought to be enough.



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Re: FreeBSD 8 GPT install, how?

2009-12-08 Thread nickolasbug
2009/12/8 Steven Hartland kill...@multiplay.co.uk:
 Thanks to all those who responded the missing piece of data was indeed
 you MUST use the DVD, the CD which mentioned in several places simply
 doesn't work as it doesn't have the required files.

 It also still shocks me that the emergency holographic shell still
 doesn't have mount_ufs which pretty much makes it useless :(

Use mount (not mount_ufs). It mounts UFS by default.
If you wanna use another FS, you should load kernel module - use
kldload with full path to kernel module.
For example, if you wanna load ext2fs module, type
kldload /dist/boot/kernel/ext2fs.ko
mount -t ext2fs device mountpoint
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Re: FreeBSD 8 GPT install, how?

2009-12-08 Thread Steven Hartland
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From: nickolas...@gmail.com




2009/12/8 Steven Hartland kill...@multiplay.co.uk:

Thanks to all those who responded the missing piece of data was indeed
you MUST use the DVD, the CD which mentioned in several places simply
doesn't work as it doesn't have the required files.

It also still shocks me that the emergency holographic shell still
doesn't have mount_ufs which pretty much makes it useless :(


Use mount (not mount_ufs). It mounts UFS by default.
If you wanna use another FS, you should load kernel module - use
kldload with full path to kernel module.
For example, if you wanna load ext2fs module, type
kldload /dist/boot/kernel/ext2fs.ko
mount -t ext2fs device mountpoint


Pure mount doesn't exist either only mount_nfs, hell doesn't even have ls
you have to use echo *, I know this is for use in emergencies but it still
could do with being useable, but that's another thread.

   Regards
   Steve


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Re: FreeBSD 8 GPT install, how?

2009-12-03 Thread Scot Hetzel
On 12/2/09, Steven Hartland kill...@multiplay.co.uk wrote:
 Looking at the release notes it seems FreeBSD 8 now supports booting from
  a GPT formatted partition but going through the installer it seems, please
  correct me if I'm wrong, that its still no possible to actually install
  using a standard disk1 to a clean machine with a large disk?

  I've found a number things articles on how to achieve this on previous
  versions, but they are all quite complex and was hoping there was a nice
  easy way on 8.0 given the improvements listed in the release notes.

  Any pointers?

If you have a look at the Root On ZFS tutorial, it shows how to create
a GPT formated system from the Fixit environment:

http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS

Note: In step 4 it is using the size in sectors, but you can also use
4G instead of 8388608.

Scot
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Re: FreeBSD 8 GPT install, how?

2009-12-03 Thread Ollivier Robert

According to Steven Hartland:

I've found a number things articles on how to achieve this on previous
versions, but they are all quite complex and was hoping there was a nice
easy way on 8.0 given the improvements listed in the release notes.

Any pointers?


A plug for my ZFS-on-ROOT howto here:
http://www.keltia.net/howtos/zfsboot

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Re: FreeBSD 8 GPT install, how?

2009-12-03 Thread Tom Evans
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Ollivier Robert
robe...@keltia.freenix.fr wrote:
 According to Steven Hartland:

 I've found a number things articles on how to achieve this on previous
 versions, but they are all quite complex and was hoping there was a nice
 easy way on 8.0 given the improvements listed in the release notes.

 Any pointers?

 A plug for my ZFS-on-ROOT howto here:
 http://www.keltia.net/howtos/zfsboot


This, like other howtos I've seen, seems to delight in making gpart as
difficult and cumbersome to use as possible. This one is better than
the ones on the wiki, who seem to think we should calculate the size
of a partition in 512k blocks. Eg:

gpart add -b 34 -s 128 -t freebsd-boot da0..da164 KB boot
gpart add -b 162 -s 1G -t freebsd-swap -l swapN da0..da1   1 GB swap
gpart add  -t freebsd-zfs da0..da1 7.5 GB rest

Most of these arguments are unnecessary. gpart generally already knows
where to put a partition (computers apparently are quite good at
adding 2 numbers together), so specifying offsets just isn't
necessary. This boils down to:

gpart add -s 64K -t freebsd-boot $dev
gpart add -s 1G -t freebsd-swap -l swapN $dev
gpart add -t freebsd-zfs $dev

Cheers

Tom
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Re: FreeBSD 8 GPT install, how?

2009-12-03 Thread Ollivier Robert

According to Tom Evans:

Most of these arguments are unnecessary. gpart generally already knows
where to put a partition (computers apparently are quite good at
adding 2 numbers together), so specifying offsets just isn't
necessary. This boils down to:


I was not sure for the first two partitions so I found it more precise to 
specify them, knowing that the numbers don't change.  Point taken though.

PS: and I did simplify mine overtime ;-)

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FreeBSD 8 GPT install, how?

2009-12-02 Thread Steven Hartland

Looking at the release notes it seems FreeBSD 8 now supports booting from
a GPT formatted partition but going through the installer it seems, please
correct me if I'm wrong, that its still no possible to actually install
using a standard disk1 to a clean machine with a large disk?

I've found a number things articles on how to achieve this on previous
versions, but they are all quite complex and was hoping there was a nice
easy way on 8.0 given the improvements listed in the release notes.

Any pointers?

   Regards
   Steve


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Re: FreeBSD 8 GPT install, how?

2009-12-02 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Thu, 3 Dec 2009, Steven Hartland wrote:
 Looking at the release notes it seems FreeBSD 8 now supports booting
 from a GPT formatted partition but going through the installer it
 seems, please correct me if I'm wrong, that its still no possible to
 actually install using a standard disk1 to a clean machine with a
 large disk?

 I've found a number things articles on how to achieve this on
 previous versions, but they are all quite complex and was hoping
 there was a nice easy way on 8.0 given the improvements listed in the
 release notes.

Unfortunately not, although work is in progress on teaching sysinstall 
about gpart.

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