Again, I fail to see what this has to do with FreeBSD-stable. This is
your second official warning. On the next offense, you will be banned
forever from all FreeBSD mailing lists. I don't care whether you were
responding to other people or not, you are solely responsible for your
own behavior and so far, it's not meeting even the most minimum
standards we have here. Again, this is your second and last warning
in compliance with the mailing list charters.
- Jordan
From: Sung Nae Cho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FreeBSD needs to awake and come out of SERVER only market!
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 19:44:32 -0400 (EDT)
Don't be embarrassed. Although I'm working on Ph.D. in physics at
Virginia Tech, I hate the f**king school. Don't get me wrong, I like the
physics department and folks in department. But, rest of the school,
I don't give f**k. Virginia Tech is the shittiest school I've ever been
too. This is the school full of dumb f**k Southern bitches and dorky punks,
God only knows how they even got their jobs at Tech, full of bureaucrats who
are only concerend with their image and putting down on Blacks and other
minorities! This is the school still White kids make joke about Blacks
and that happens naturally around here. Thank God at leats Physics and
much of Engineering depts. are evenly composed of scholars from all
over the world; and we don't tolerate such ignorance! Now, you can have
all the pride of this shit hole school yourself. I don't want any of it
and I'm not even proud to be called a Virginia Tech student. I'm only
here because Physics department doesn't tolerate such ignorance. You are
the one that's making me embarrassed by even considering me as a Virginia
Tech student! Please, refer me as someone from Physics department but
don't tie me with the shit hole Virginia Tech.
Sung N. Cho,
Dept. of Physics,
Virginia Polytechnic Institute State University.
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Jason Andresen wrote:
Sung Nae Cho wrote:
Aarrgh! Must...Resist...Trolling...
Nuts, well I'll make this short:
I don't know how far this have gone down the road and altered throughout
the course. But, I've never said desktops don't need stability. It all
started with some faction of FreeBSD users complaining about the default
enable of the disk write cache for modern hard drives in FreeBSD 4.x
series. My original post was literally responding to them, Come on!
This is 21st Century and hard disks are reliable and we need to take full
advantage over those capable devices if FreeBSD's ever going to succeed in
desktop market. FreeBSD is no longer for server use only! Personally,
I've been using UDMA capable disks (and, who doesn't these days?) with all
the DMA capabilities fully turned on and never had to compromise
performance with stability. If you are so worried about UDMA capable
disks to not to work as it suppose to, why in the world are you even
getting UDMA disk? Jee, lets get real here. Too many of the FreeBSD
Where did this non-sequitor come from?
Current state of FreeBSD:
ATA disks are run at the maximum transfer rate the disk, controller, and
cable allow. This includes things like UDMA100/66/33.
Write Caching is enabled by default now.
Filesystems have the option of running Softupdates, which almost as
fast and _MUCH_ more reliable than async.
ATAPI devices (CDROMs mostly) do not use DMA by default because a lot
of ATAPI devices flat out lie about what they support. This is easily
tunable if you are _sure_ your ATAPI devices supports DMA. It's just
common sense.
Dept. of Physics,
Virginia Polytechnic Institute State University.
As a Tech alumni, this embarrasses me.
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