Re: Memory handling problem with FreeBSD 5.3?

2004-12-30 Thread Scott Long
Bosko Milekic wrote:
On Thu, Dec 30, 2004 at 10:41:27AM -0700, Scott Long wrote:
Christian R. wrote:
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:02:16 +0100, you wrote:

Would the AMD64 version of FreeBSD 5.3 be a better choice?

I have now installed the AMD64 version on the server. It has been
running stable now for some hours with alot of load and all the 6 GB
activated. It seems to be a problem with the i386 version og FreeBSD
5.3.
i386 and amd64 have the exact same code for handling the needs of the
amr driver.  I'm a bit worried that one works for you while the other
doesn't; I extensively tested the code on both platforms with 8GB of
RAM.
Scott

  Maybe I missed something in this thread, but what does it have to do
  with the amr driver?  The first thing that came to mind was something
  with PAE and how it affects PDE modifications.
  On i386, it might be worth trying these combinations:
  1. SMP, NO PAE.
  2. UP, PAE.
  3. UP, NO PAE.
  
  As we already know that "SMP, PAE" for you has problems.

Bounce buffers were horribly broken in 5.3-RELEASE for amd64 and i386,
and the amr driver itself was unreliable in using them even when they
worked (the amr driver cannot do 64-bit S/G right now).  I fixed all of
this stuff a few weeks ago.  I tested all of this extensively under PAE,
but you're correct that this particular problem could very well be
related to pmap problems specific to i386.
Scott
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Re: Memory handling problem with FreeBSD 5.3?

2004-12-30 Thread Bosko Milekic

On Thu, Dec 30, 2004 at 10:41:27AM -0700, Scott Long wrote:
> Christian R. wrote:
> >On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:02:16 +0100, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Would the AMD64 version of FreeBSD 5.3 be a better choice?
> >
> >
> >I have now installed the AMD64 version on the server. It has been
> >running stable now for some hours with alot of load and all the 6 GB
> >activated. It seems to be a problem with the i386 version og FreeBSD
> >5.3.
> >
> 
> i386 and amd64 have the exact same code for handling the needs of the
> amr driver.  I'm a bit worried that one works for you while the other
> doesn't; I extensively tested the code on both platforms with 8GB of
> RAM.
> 
> Scott

  Maybe I missed something in this thread, but what does it have to do
  with the amr driver?  The first thing that came to mind was something
  with PAE and how it affects PDE modifications.

  On i386, it might be worth trying these combinations:

  1. SMP, NO PAE.
  2. UP, PAE.
  3. UP, NO PAE.
  
  As we already know that "SMP, PAE" for you has problems.

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Re: Memory handling problem with FreeBSD 5.3?

2004-12-30 Thread Scott Long
Christian R. wrote:
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:02:16 +0100, you wrote:

Would the AMD64 version of FreeBSD 5.3 be a better choice?

I have now installed the AMD64 version on the server. It has been
running stable now for some hours with alot of load and all the 6 GB
activated. It seems to be a problem with the i386 version og FreeBSD
5.3.
i386 and amd64 have the exact same code for handling the needs of the
amr driver.  I'm a bit worried that one works for you while the other
doesn't; I extensively tested the code on both platforms with 8GB of
RAM.
Scott
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Re: Memory handling problem with FreeBSD 5.3?

2004-12-30 Thread Christian R .
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:02:16 +0100, you wrote:

>Would the AMD64 version of FreeBSD 5.3 be a better choice?

I have now installed the AMD64 version on the server. It has been
running stable now for some hours with alot of load and all the 6 GB
activated. It seems to be a problem with the i386 version og FreeBSD
5.3.

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Re: Memory handling problem with FreeBSD 5.3?

2004-12-30 Thread Christian R .
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 10:02:31 +0100, you wrote:

>>Upgrade to 5-STABLE.  I fixed these problems a few weeks ago.
>
>I already have done that. I'm using RELENG_5 "5.3-STABLE FreeBSD
>5.3-STABLE #0: Tue Dec 28 17:56:04 CET 2004"
>
>Setting hw.physmem=3D3G at boot time has also made the system stable,
>but I want to use all of the memory.

I have updated my source again with cvsup (RELENG_5), compiled the
source and installed the new world and kernel, but the server is still
unstable with >= 4GB.

Would the AMD64 version of FreeBSD 5.3 be a better choice?

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Re: Memory handling problem with FreeBSD 5.3?

2004-12-30 Thread Christian R .
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 19:32:04 -0700, you wrote:

>Christian R. wrote:
>> I have installed FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE i386 on a new Dell PowerEdge 2850,
>> but it crashes under load like "make buildworld" with a "panic: page
>> fault".
>> 
>> The server has following configuration: 2x Intel Xeon 3.4 GHz (800 MHz
>> FSB), 6x 1 GB DDR2 ECC RAM and Perc 4e/Di (LSI Logic/amr driver).
>> 
>> After some days working on the problem, I think there is some problem
>> with handling the memory. The only way I have got the server to become
>> stable was by switching a special option in the Dell BIOS, which
>> limits the system memory to 256 MB.
>> 
>> I have tried to limit the memory to 4 GB by activating a spare memory
>> bank, but the server still crashes. Disabling HTT in BIOS and ACPI in
>> the loader also didn't solved the problem.
>> 
>> The kernel is compiled with SMP of course and PAE because of >4 GB
>> memory. I have removed all the unnecessary devices.
>> 
>> Dells own diagnostic tool couldn't find any hardware errors. The
>> special memory test also passed all tests. I have also tried with
>> memtest (http://www.memtest.org/) which either could find any memory
>> errors.
>> 
>> Has anyone an idea to a solution? Has anyone succeeded running FreeBSD
>> 5.3 on similar hardware?
>> 
>> Would it maybe be better to run the AMD64 version of FreeBSD 5.3? I
>> think the i386 version should be more stable?
>> 
>
>Upgrade to 5-STABLE.  I fixed these problems a few weeks ago.

I already have done that. I'm using RELENG_5 "5.3-STABLE FreeBSD
5.3-STABLE #0: Tue Dec 28 17:56:04 CET 2004"

Setting hw.physmem=3G at boot time has also made the system stable,
but I want to use all of the memory.

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Re: Memory handling problem with FreeBSD 5.3?

2004-12-29 Thread Scott Long
Christian R. wrote:
I have installed FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE i386 on a new Dell PowerEdge 2850,
but it crashes under load like "make buildworld" with a "panic: page
fault".
The server has following configuration: 2x Intel Xeon 3.4 GHz (800 MHz
FSB), 6x 1 GB DDR2 ECC RAM and Perc 4e/Di (LSI Logic/amr driver).
After some days working on the problem, I think there is some problem
with handling the memory. The only way I have got the server to become
stable was by switching a special option in the Dell BIOS, which
limits the system memory to 256 MB.
I have tried to limit the memory to 4 GB by activating a spare memory
bank, but the server still crashes. Disabling HTT in BIOS and ACPI in
the loader also didn't solved the problem.
The kernel is compiled with SMP of course and PAE because of >4 GB
memory. I have removed all the unnecessary devices.
Dells own diagnostic tool couldn't find any hardware errors. The
special memory test also passed all tests. I have also tried with
memtest (http://www.memtest.org/) which either could find any memory
errors.
Has anyone an idea to a solution? Has anyone succeeded running FreeBSD
5.3 on similar hardware?
Would it maybe be better to run the AMD64 version of FreeBSD 5.3? I
think the i386 version should be more stable?
Upgrade to 5-STABLE.  I fixed these problems a few weeks ago.
Scott
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Memory handling problem with FreeBSD 5.3?

2004-12-29 Thread Christian R .
I have installed FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE i386 on a new Dell PowerEdge 2850,
but it crashes under load like "make buildworld" with a "panic: page
fault".

The server has following configuration: 2x Intel Xeon 3.4 GHz (800 MHz
FSB), 6x 1 GB DDR2 ECC RAM and Perc 4e/Di (LSI Logic/amr driver).

After some days working on the problem, I think there is some problem
with handling the memory. The only way I have got the server to become
stable was by switching a special option in the Dell BIOS, which
limits the system memory to 256 MB.

I have tried to limit the memory to 4 GB by activating a spare memory
bank, but the server still crashes. Disabling HTT in BIOS and ACPI in
the loader also didn't solved the problem.

The kernel is compiled with SMP of course and PAE because of >4 GB
memory. I have removed all the unnecessary devices.

Dells own diagnostic tool couldn't find any hardware errors. The
special memory test also passed all tests. I have also tried with
memtest (http://www.memtest.org/) which either could find any memory
errors.

Has anyone an idea to a solution? Has anyone succeeded running FreeBSD
5.3 on similar hardware?

Would it maybe be better to run the AMD64 version of FreeBSD 5.3? I
think the i386 version should be more stable?

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