Re: R: Re: R: Re: 6.4-RC2 crashes after a few minutes of uptime

2008-11-24 Thread Rory Arms


On 2008-11-24, at 1:51 , Barbara wrote:


About kgdb...
I never used freebsd-update, so sorry if I'm saying



something

stupid, but could it be the case that the kernel has been



built

without debugging symbols or something like that? Does freebsd-




update provide a kernel.debug?


I haven't had to use a the kernel.

debug file

in the obj dir in a long

time. As far as I know, these days,

the GENERIC

kernel includes debug

symbols. And in cases when there

aren't any debug

symbols, that

shouldn't prevent kgdb from loading, I

wouldn't think.


Hello,

I had a k panic some hours ago but I think

that's related to a

problem with one
of my HDs.

I've got a dump

in /var/crash, and as you were interested, I run:



  # kgdb

/boot/kernel/kernel /var/crash/vmcore.6



  GNU gdb 6.1.1
[FreeBSD]




  Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

  GDB is free


software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are




welcome

to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain

conditions.


  Type
show copying to see the conditions.



There is absolutely no warranty for

GDB.  Type show warranty for details.




  This GDB was configured as i386-
marcel-freebsd...(no debugging

symbols found)...


  Attempt to extract a
component of a value that is

not a structure pointer.


  Attempt to extract a
component of a value

that is not a structure pointer.


  Attempt to extract a
component of

a value that is not a structure pointer.


  Attempt to extract a


component of a value that is not a structure pointer.


  Terminated





I had
to pkill kgdb as it was in a loop.

Running it against kernel.

debug in

/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/$KERNCONF/ worked as expected.
I've always

followed this

way, so I don't know if it was working with earlier releases.




Ah, well you must not be using GENERIC then, because it does have the



debugging symbols.

I think this is the setting in the GENERIC config that

controls it:


makeoptions DEBUG=-g

But I guess what you're doing works if

you're using a custom kernel

that does not have that config setting.

-

rory




I'm not using GENERIC but I have
makeoptions DEBUG=-g
in my KERNCONF.


Barbara,

Ah, so you had the exact same results I got, when using /book/kernel/ 
kernel. So, that answers that question then, apparently I do need to  
build a kernel.debug to get a backtrace on 6.4.


So, it looks like maybe things are different in 6 than I had  
remembered. I haven't looked at the 6.4-RC2 notebook to see what the  
kernel directory has, but on my 7.0 server at least, I've noticed that  
kgdb(1) does work with /book/kernel/kernel, and I think it might have  
to do with putting the symbols in a separate, kernel.symbols file. So,  
I assume that this doesn't exist on 6. However I did notice that if I  
remove that file, and run kgdb again (on 7.0) I also get that  
structure pointer error that you get, it doesn't lock up.. and I can  
still get a backtrace, but the output is more terse.. in that it shows  
function names, but without corresponding source file names and line  
numbers. So, the addition of the symbols file it seems, adds some some  
more debugging information than what the kernel provides by itself.


So, maybe that makeoptions directive does different things on each  
version.


Thank you for your feedback with this, much appreciated. Now, to see  
if I can build a kernel.debug on that machine, can get a backtrace --  
though it sure sounds like a problem with ata(4).


- rory
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R: Re: R: Re: 6.4-RC2 crashes after a few minutes of uptime

2008-11-23 Thread Barbara
 About kgdb...
 I never used freebsd-update, so sorry if I'm saying
 
something
 stupid, but could it be the case that the kernel has been
 
built
 without debugging symbols or something like that? Does freebsd-


 update provide a kernel.debug?

 I haven't had to use a the kernel.
debug file
 in the obj dir in a long
 time. As far as I know, these days, 
the GENERIC
 kernel includes debug
 symbols. And in cases when there 
aren't any debug
 symbols, that
 shouldn't prevent kgdb from loading, I 
wouldn't think.

 Hello,

 I had a k panic some hours ago but I think 
that's related to a  
 problem with one
 of my HDs.

 I've got a dump 
in /var/crash, and as you were interested, I run:


# kgdb 
/boot/kernel/kernel /var/crash/vmcore.6


GNU gdb 6.1.1
 [FreeBSD]


Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

GDB is free
 
software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are


welcome
 to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain 
conditions.

Type
 show copying to see the conditions.


There is absolutely no warranty for
 GDB.  Type show warranty for details.


This GDB was configured as i386-
 marcel-freebsd...(no debugging 
symbols found)...

Attempt to extract a
 component of a value that is 
not a structure pointer.

Attempt to extract a
 component of a value 
that is not a structure pointer.

Attempt to extract a
 component of 
a value that is not a structure pointer.

Attempt to extract a
 
component of a value that is not a structure pointer.

Terminated



 I had
 to pkill kgdb as it was in a loop.

 Running it against kernel.
debug in
 /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/$KERNCONF/ worked as expected.
 I've always 
followed this
 way, so I don't know if it was working with earlier releases.


Ah, well you must not be using GENERIC then, because it does have the  

debugging symbols.

I think this is the setting in the GENERIC config that 
controls it:

makeoptionsDEBUG=-g

But I guess what you're doing works if 
you're using a custom kernel  
that does not have that config setting.

- 
rory


I'm not using GENERIC but I have 
makeoptions DEBUG=-g
in my KERNCONF.

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