RE: TinyBSD Call For Testers
Hello, thank you for your posting. Can you explain, how it compares to minibsd [https://neon1.net/misc/minibsd.html]? Norbert ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: TinyBSD Call For Testers
Norbert Koch wrote: Hello, thank you for your posting. Can you explain, how it compares to minibsd [https://neon1.net/misc/minibsd.html]? Norbert It is similar to minibsd in the "copy" proccess, but different in the configuration and image creation stages. TinyBSD does not heavily depend on chroot enviroment, it works directly in a "work" directory, where files copying, kernel build and hier(7) definitions are used in such an usual FreeBSD building enviroment, including mtree definitions in /etc/mtree/, using "make DESTDIR" and "make DISTRIBUTION" whenever it is possible. In fact it is pretty much closer to NanoBSD in the whole proccess, while only similar to minibsd in the "copy" idea. -- Patrick Tracanelli FreeBSD Brasil LTDA. (31) 3281-9633 / 3281-3547 sip://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.freebsdbrasil.com.br "Long live Hanin Elias, Kim Deal!" ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: TinyBSD Call For Testers
On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 03:17:52PM -0300, Jean Milanez Melo wrote: > Hello gentlemen, > > In the last saturday a new port has been added under sysutils/ category, > ports/sysutils/tinybsd. TinyBSD is a tool which was meant to allow an > easy way to build embedded systems based on FreeBSD. It is based on > userland copying, library dependencies check/copy and kernel build. What's wrong with PicoBSD? -ip -- Consumer assistance doesn't. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: TinyBSD Call For Testers
Hi Igor! On Tue, 19 Jul 2005, Igor Pokrovsky wrote: > On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 03:17:52PM -0300, Jean Milanez Melo wrote: > > Hello gentlemen, > > > > In the last saturday a new port has been added under sysutils/ category, > > ports/sysutils/tinybsd. TinyBSD is a tool which was meant to allow an > > easy way to build embedded systems based on FreeBSD. It is based on > > userland copying, library dependencies check/copy and kernel build. > > What's wrong with PicoBSD? AFAIR, PicoBSD not maintable on FreeBSD 5 and higher. By. Dmitriy ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: TinyBSD Call For Testers
On Jul 18, 2005, at 8:17 PM, Jean Milanez Melo wrote: Hello gentlemen, In the last saturday a new port has been added under sysutils/ category, ports/sysutils/tinybsd. TinyBSD is a tool which was meant to allow an easy way to build embedded systems based on FreeBSD. It is based on userland copying, library dependencies check/copy and kernel build. We did our best to make the embedded system creation an easy and specially fast proccess. The main (default) system generates an embedded system image which is about 20MB in size, which is a very generic approach, with a number of wired NIC support, and also the most popular wireless support (including atheros), divert, bridge, dummynet, firewall, etc; and CPU_ELAN (for soekris devices). If the "generic" system gets tighten up the final result can be as low as an 8MB embedded system. We are giving you this intro to ask you please to test TinyBSD out, the most that you can, and send every possible feedback regarding it. The main tinybsd goal is to make embedded systems creation a process which must be 1 - fast 2 - easy 3 - 100% functional If you can test it, we would appreciate your thoughts. If you think any of those 3 goals can't be reached for you, or could be improved, also let me know. Thanks for testing Without having actually tried yet (time hasn't been very permitting lately), is it conceivable to use this tool to create slim-but- functional jails? Sans the kernel part, that is? /Eirik -- Atenciosamente Jean Milanez Melo FreeBSD Brasil LTDA. Fone: (31) 3281-9633 http://www.freebsdbrasil.com.br ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable- [EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: TinyBSD Call For Testers
> Hello gentlemen, > > If you can test it, we would appreciate your thoughts. If you think any > of those 3 goals can't be reached for you, or could be improved, also > let me know. > Hi just had short look at it look nice & fast, first data from an via itx (dmesg, pciconf df) http://martenvijn.nl/tinybsd/via_board.txt for Soekris/wrap I 'll need to do to some kernel configs, I 'll let you know. I would be very nice to have some prefab menus for commom embedded hardware. Marten ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: TinyBSD Call For Testers
At 08:01 20/07/2005, Dmitriy Kirhlarov wrote: Hi Igor! On Tue, 19 Jul 2005, Igor Pokrovsky wrote: [...] > What's wrong with PicoBSD? AFAIR, PicoBSD not maintable on FreeBSD 5 and higher. # sysctl kern.version kern.version: FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Wed Jul 6 14:47:03 BST 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/home/rb/build_dir-pxe_install/PICOBSD-pxe_install (with only very minor hacking). -- Bob Bishop +44 (0)118 940 1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax +44 (0)118 940 1295 ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: TinyBSD Call For Testers
Eirik Øverby wrote: Without having actually tried yet (time hasn't been very permitting lately), is it conceivable to use this tool to create slim-but- functional jails? Sans the kernel part, that is? /Eirik The main goal is not this, but you can do that with some few changes. -- Atenciosamente Jean Milanez Melo FreeBSD Brasil LTDA. Fone: (31) 3281-9633 http://www.freebsdbrasil.com.br ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: TinyBSD Call For Testers
I tried to build tiny freebsd a 6.0 version, which currently works on my laptop ( cvs checked out to day) did a build/install world + kernel The image build doesn't exit somewhere or errors... "burned" an image to my cf-card cat my.img > /dev/ad4 Then booted the image boot stops : can't load kernel ? is the TINYBSD kernelconfig is not prepared for 6.0 an attempt to build this kernelconfig separately fails at the atheros driver: if_ath.o(.text+0x213a): In function `ath_node_alloc': : undefined reference to `ath_rate_node_init' if_ath.o(.text+0x2187): In function `ath_node_free': : undefined reference to `ath_rate_node_cleanup' if_ath.o(.text+0x21b6): In function `ath_node_free': : undefined reference to `ath_rate_node_cleanup' if_ath.o(.text+0x322a): In function `ath_start': : undefined reference to `ath_rate_setupxtxdesc' if_ath.o(.text+0x342c): In function `ath_start': : undefined reference to `ath_rate_findrate' if_ath.o(.text+0x3fa1): In function `ath_tx_processq': : undefined reference to `ath_rate_tx_complete' if_ath.o(.text+0x4764): In function `ath_detach': : undefined reference to `ath_rate_detach' if_ath.o(.text+0x4f35): In function `ath_newstate': : undefined reference to `ath_rate_newstate' if_ath.o(.text+0x4ffe): In function `ath_newstate': : undefined reference to `ath_rate_newstate' if_ath.o(.text+0x5352): In function `ath_newassoc': : undefined reference to `ath_rate_newassoc' if_ath.o(.text+0x6e3d): In function `ath_attach': : undefined reference to `ath_rate_attach' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TINYBSD. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. medion# Then I copied the GENERIC kernelconfig to /usr/local/share/tinybsd/TINYBSD and repated the build proces... This still leaves me boot message: can't load kernel, so someting else more is going wrong?? I mounted the cf-card on my laptop: medion# cp -v /boot/kernel/kernel /mnt/boot/kernel/ After this there is a bootable system. Next to find out is why the kernel wasn't in the image. Thougths: - something with coping the kernel went wrong (exits on errors would be fine) - atheros drivers do not like to be build in kernel but are fine to be loaded as a modules (I tested the loading of these modeles) Apart from this, opening a getty on a com port by default would safe some time on "serial only" boxes in /etc/ttys I changed : ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup off secure to: ttyd0 "/usr/ibexec/getty std.9600" ansi on secure Like this a had a soekris 4521 booted : https://martenvijn.nl/tinybsd/net4521.txt Marten ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: TinyBSD Call For Testers
Hello Marten, Thanks for your input. Yesterday sysutils/tinybsd was updated to reflect fetching the new 0.2 TinyBSD which has some improvements related to lib depends, specially pam as it was not functional on tinybsd (opie related problems) in FreeBSD 6 like it was in RELENG_5 before. Also, new entries were added to the kernel (commented, by default) with the new atheros entries (ath rate is probably what is causing your problem, uncomment it on the new 0.2 tinybsd to build your system under FreeBSD 6). Also, your change on ttys will probably be interesting for other users too. It makes me think that it is probably time to maintain a separated etc/ customized tree under tinybsd development dirs, in a PicoBSD fashion. In fact it is already added to the TODO listing for TinyBSD. I believe it is a better way than changing anything under etc/ without the embedded system developer explicity will. Please, if you get the same (or new) problems under FreeBSD 6 w/ TinyBSD 0.2, send a note. -- Patrick Tracanelli FreeBSD Brasil LTDA. (31) 3281-9633 / 3281-3547 sip://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.freebsdbrasil.com.br "Long live Hanin Elias, Kim Deal!" ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
