Re: 9.1-RC3: xorg-input-mouse, xfce4-panel

2012-12-28 Thread CeDeROM
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Jakub Lach jakub_l...@mailplus.pl wrote:
 xf86-input-mouse-1.8.1 is in dev trunk xorg tree. (see -x11).

This is the only sensible solution to use new driver. HAL and
AllowEmptyInput are EXCLUSIVE and cause very strange behavior - I have
just noticed that again on another desktop - screen is refreshed AFTER
mouse is moved heh...

Still I cannot see the new 1.8.1 driver after updating the port
tree... cannot wait to see that one, still I think this is a must for
a release package :-)

Best regards :-)
Tomek

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Re: 9.1-RC3: xorg-input-mouse, xfce4-panel

2012-12-28 Thread Jakub Lach
1.8.1 is in staging area (dev trunk). It will be not in packages distributed 
with 9.1. They were just apps which happened to be in ports tree
at packages building for release time. There is only one branch of ports.

hal is less and less used/supported and it was never meant to be 
used with AllowEmptyInput...

http://wiki.freebsd.org/Xorg



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Re: 9.1-RC3: xorg-input-mouse, xfce4-panel

2012-12-28 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:33 PM, CeDeROM cede...@tlen.pl wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Jakub Lach jakub_l...@mailplus.pl wrote:
 xf86-input-mouse-1.8.1 is in dev trunk xorg tree. (see -x11).

 This is the only sensible solution to use new driver. HAL and
 AllowEmptyInput are EXCLUSIVE and cause very strange behavior - I have
 just noticed that again on another desktop - screen is refreshed AFTER
 mouse is moved heh...

 Still I cannot see the new 1.8.1 driver after updating the port
 tree... cannot wait to see that one, still I think this is a must for
 a release package :-)

 Best regards :-)
 Tomek

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You're misunderstanding a few things. There are no release packages
for any release of FreeBSD. What you have on the install discs are
just snapshot packages built from the ports tree as it happened to
be at the time of the release was made. If you want to see the newer
mouse driver in ports help the xorg developers by testing their
experimental tree. There's nothing to be done about the 9.1-RELEASE,
the packages on the install discs will not have any experimental
content.
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Re: 9.1-RC3: xorg-input-mouse, xfce4-panel

2012-12-28 Thread CeDeROM
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Kimmo Paasiala kpaas...@gmail.com wrote:
 You're misunderstanding a few things. There are no release packages
 for any release of FreeBSD. What you have on the install discs are
 just snapshot packages built from the ports tree as it happened (...)

I know, I hoped 1.7.2 driver or 1.8.1 can get into a port tree before
packages for 9.1 are built and released. When I applied a patch (some
structure fields initialization) from 1.7.2 on current 1.7.1 driver
problem of detection and strange mouse behavior was gone. If 1.7.1
gets into the packages lots of people will report this issue... thats
all.

Best regards :-)
Tomek

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Re: 9.1-RC3: xorg-input-mouse, xfce4-panel

2012-12-28 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:51 PM, CeDeROM cede...@tlen.pl wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Kimmo Paasiala kpaas...@gmail.com wrote:
 You're misunderstanding a few things. There are no release packages
 for any release of FreeBSD. What you have on the install discs are
 just snapshot packages built from the ports tree as it happened (...)

 I know, I hoped 1.7.2 driver or 1.8.1 can get into a port tree before
 packages for 9.1 are built and released. When I applied a patch (some
 structure fields initialization) from 1.7.2 on current 1.7.1 driver
 problem of detection and strange mouse behavior was gone. If 1.7.1
 gets into the packages lots of people will report this issue... thats
 all.

 Best regards :-)
 Tomek

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Related to this,

It doesn't look like the FreeBSD ports SVN repository is used to its
full potential. SVN allows branching and creation of experimental
versions of the tree very easily and cheaply, yet all the experimental
repositories references so far are stored in some external
repositories, github or elsewhere.

What gives?
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Re: 9.1-RC3: xorg-input-mouse, xfce4-panel

2012-12-28 Thread CeDeROM
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Kimmo Paasiala kpaas...@gmail.com wrote:
 It doesn't look like the FreeBSD ports SVN repository is used to its
 full potential. (...)

Yea, btw why FreeBSD does not use GIT? I have been using it for some
time and I have not seen better source code revision utility. GIT is
really amazing, SVN/CVS seems to be a file revision control, while GIT
is the source code revision control, this tool surprises me all the
time with its great features :-)

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Re: 9.1-RC3: xorg-input-mouse, xfce4-panel

2012-12-28 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:08 PM, CeDeROM cede...@tlen.pl wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Kimmo Paasiala kpaas...@gmail.com wrote:
 It doesn't look like the FreeBSD ports SVN repository is used to its
 full potential. (...)

 Yea, btw why FreeBSD does not use GIT? I have been using it for some
 time and I have not seen better source code revision utility. GIT is
 really amazing, SVN/CVS seems to be a file revision control, while GIT
 is the source code revision control, this tool surprises me all the
 time with its great features :-)

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I would personally use GIT but I'm ok with SVN too. I absolutely hate
CVS :P  My point is really that why not centralise all the development
that happens around the ports tree. The infrastructure is there
already.

-Kimmo
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Re: 9.1-RC3: xorg-input-mouse, xfce4-panel

2012-12-28 Thread Jakub Lach
xorg trunk repo predates SVN for ports.



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Re: 9.1-RC3: xorg-input-mouse, xfce4-panel

2012-12-28 Thread Jakub Lach
http://wiki.freebsd.org/Git



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Re: 9.1-RC3: xorg-input-mouse, xfce4-panel

2012-12-28 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 28 December 2012 04:02, Kimmo Paasiala kpaas...@gmail.com wrote:

 It doesn't look like the FreeBSD ports SVN repository is used to its
 full potential. SVN allows branching and creation of experimental
 versions of the tree very easily and cheaply, yet all the experimental
 repositories references so far are stored in some external
 repositories, github or elsewhere.

 What gives?

Because then people who wish to create experimental branches of a
rather large ports SVN tree would end up populating the core SVN repo,
which is reproduced on mirrors (both ours and whoever else wishes to
mirror the SVN repository.)

So the current method in src/ is to work out hacks in local mirrors of
the repository (eg via svn - git gateways) and then when it's time to
start some public work - create a branch, do the hacking, merge it
into HEAD when it's ready.

That way it can also be worked on by non-FreeBSD contributors. Just
like what people do for Linux, who don't have kernel.org accounts.

I won't speak for the ports people but just keep that in mind. There's
sometimes larger scale issues abound. :-)

And before you say but but but but but but git! please keep in mind
that there's no such thing as a central GIT repository that _everyone_
dumps their work in, like what would happen if one created an SVN
branch for projects (in src, ports, doc, etc.) Everyone has their own
git repository forks and they push patches to more authoritative
trees over time.


Adrian
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Re: 9.1-RC3: xorg-input-mouse, xfce4-panel

2012-12-27 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 27 Dec 2012, CeDeROM wrote:


Hello :-)

I have found some issues with 9.1-RC3 packages/configuration using
binary packages:

1. xorg-input-mouse is old driver (?) that has the issue mentioned on
the list (current?) - the mouse is not always detected at first xorg
run. Please make sure 9.1-RELEASE use new mouse driver that has this
issue fixed (?) and/or update default configuration to use
AllowEmptyInput properly (Off).


Use AutoAddDevices Off instead.  AEI is prone to problems.
http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html
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Re: 9.1-RC3: xorg-input-mouse, xfce4-panel

2012-12-27 Thread CeDeROM
Hello Warren :-)

I did so. I also talked about that problem some time ago. I think
1.7.2 xorg mouse driver has this fix and no manual configuration is
necessary. It would be nice to include 1.7.2 in the release packages
:-)

Best regards :-)
Tomek

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Re: 9.1-RC3: xorg-input-mouse, xfce4-panel

2012-12-27 Thread Jakub Lach
There is nothing going into release what was not in ports 
tree. (There is no release packages at all, apart from ports 
that's just happened to be in regular tree at release time. 
Followed by port tree slush.)

xf86-input-mouse-1.8.1 is in dev trunk xorg tree. (see -x11).



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