Re: HEADS UP! MFC's

2000-10-30 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav

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> What's an MFC?

Please read the FAQ.

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Re: HEADS UP! MFC's

2000-10-27 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven

-On [20001027 19:05], Alfred Perlstein ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>* Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001027 09:53] wrote:
>> You totally miss the point I was trying to communicate across.
>> 
>> While I strive to make sure everything I MFC is tested it can always
>> happen that something for some reason blows up.
>> 
>> Some things are just beyond your control.
>
>That's understandable, and if things are proceeding as normal then
>there's no reason for potentially creating panic for the users.

No I understand, but given that STABLE should be guarded more than
CURRENT when it comes to noticing our userbase of potential ``dangerous'
source update times I think the mail I sent out was justified and not
trying to cause panic.  I see which point of view you are coming from
though.

>However, if there's an 'MFC rush' then I think that's not the right
>way to go about doing it.

With rush I am referring back to 4.1-RELEASE of 4.0-RELEASE MFC's.  That
wasn't pretty in the least.  As well as the last few weeks/months of
immediate MFC's.

>> I am just giving people a warning to be careful the next few days in
>> updating their system as I am sure the MFC rushing of some things might
>> occur again.
>
>Again, if you are _sure_ that there will be problems then please
>don't, if you aren't _sure_ then there's no reason to make people
>fear the next release.

I am sure that I am testing things before committing, as well as reading
the logs to see what everything is about.  I am not even considering
major impact changes for MFC.

I think the STABLE crowd knows my MFC's by know.

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Re: HEADS UP! MFC's

2000-10-27 Thread opentrax

Yes, but it looks like the thought police are also on my heals.
=-) 

On 27 Oct, blaine wrote:
> He only needed a 3 word answer.   Merged From Current.
> 
> Chris Faulhaber wrote:
> 
>> ...
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 03:39:30PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > ...
>> > What is MFC?
>> >
>>




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Re: HEADS UP! MFC's

2000-10-27 Thread blaine

He only needed a 3 word answer.   Merged From Current.

Chris Faulhaber wrote:

> [ trimming -developers ]
>
> On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 03:39:30PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > What's an MFC?
> > In Windoze it's Microsoft Foundation Class.
> > I gather that is not what it is here.
> > What is MFC?
> >
>
> http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/misc.html#AEN4829
>
> and -stable/-developers is not the forum for this question; please
> try [EMAIL PROTECTED] next time.
>
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Re: HEADS UP! MFC's

2000-10-27 Thread Matthew Jacob


On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Mike Smith wrote:

> > 
> > There are some things which are broken in -stable that need to be
> > fixed (alpha booting, e.g.). We'll try to leave the world a better
> > place for our efforts.
> 
> -stable world builds, installs and boots on my pws433 as of earlier 
> today (with dfr's ata fix).

Yes- same here. But what I want to do as the gating item for 4.2 is to make
sure that the boot floppies work for all the models that we claim to support.
Eh?

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Re: HEADS UP! MFC's

2000-10-27 Thread Mike Smith

> 
> There are some things which are broken in -stable that need to be
> fixed (alpha booting, e.g.). We'll try to leave the world a better
> place for our efforts.

-stable world builds, installs and boots on my pws433 as of earlier 
today (with dfr's ata fix).

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